/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10243896]

>not remotely better or more virtuous than any political leader despite studying philosophy

PLATO BTFO

[Anonymous No.10243919]

Hegesias was the true redpill.

[Anonymous No.10243938]

>>10243896
is there a single philosopher who has not been BTFO by history? philosophers are really the intellectual midgets of humanity, the should be mocked, not put on a pedestal by lonely brainlets with no talent for the sciences or literature

[Anonymous No.10243989]

>>10243896
> In Paris, he failed to gain entry to the École Normale Supérieure twice.[26][27][28] He instead studied Philosophy at the University of Paris-Ouest Nanterre La Défense, obtaining a DEA degree (a master level degree, with a thesis on Machiavelli and Hegel).[21][29] Around 1999 Macron worked as an editorial assistant to Paul Ricoeur, the French Protestant philosopher who was then writing his last major work, La Mémoire, l'Histoire, l'Oubli. Macron worked mainly on the notes and bibliography.


Interesting. I should've studied Machiavelli and Hegel as well. Even if I didn't become the president of France, I'd at least probably marry my High School teacher.

[Anonymous No.10243994]

It has barely been half a year.

[Anonymous No.10243997]

>For me, my office isn't first and foremost a political or technical one. Rather, it is symbolic. I am a strong believer that modern political life must rediscover a sense for symbolism. We need to develop a kind of political heroism. I don't mean that I want to play the hero. But we need to be amenable once again to creating grand narratives. If you like, post-modernism was the worst thing that could have happened to our democracy. The idea that you have to deconstruct and destroy all grand narratives is not a good one. Since then, trust has evaporated in everything and everyone. I am sometimes surprised that it is the media that are the first ones to exhibit a lack of trust in grand narratives. They believe that destroying something is part of their journalistic purpose because something grand must inevitably contain an element of evil. Critique is necessary, but where does this hate for the so-called grand narrative come from?
the french actually elected a fucking peterson fanboy lmao

[Anonymous No.10243998]

>>10243896
>not remotely better or more virtuous
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.10244006]

>>10243896
>PLATO BTFO
Bitch, I bet you didn't even refuse to listen to sad music or roleplay bad guys in your playground games as a kid. That shit will fuck you up.

[Anonymous No.10244020]

>>10243896
>balding is aesthetic now

wtf?

who is this semon demon?

[Anonymous No.10244031]

For a Jew he's pretty cool.

>“Democracy is always presented as if it were incomplete, because democracy is not enough by itself,”

>"Fascism is preoccupied by the clothing (namely the forms of state organization), National-Socialism by the body (namely the racial eugenics), whereas Monarchism is preoccupied by something much deeper: by the soul (namely by its strengthening through the cultivation of Christian virtues and its preparation with final salvation in mind, salvation dealt with by the Christian Church in the most perfect fashion)."

[Anonymous No.10244041]

>>10244031
> incredibly centrist

Oh boy, radical centrist memes incoming.

[Anonymous No.10244047]

>>10244031
Noice

[Anonymous No.10244055]

>>10243896
Anyone know what he wrote about?

[Anonymous No.10244059]

>>10244031
Another proof that philosophy students are retarded

[Anonymous No.10244065]

>>10243997
ahaha he's pseud-supreme

[Anonymous No.10244070]

>>10244059
nice argument, did you learn that from your classroom debates?

[Anonymous No.10244076]

>>10244070
kek sorry I didn't mean to trigger you

[Anonymous No.10244095]

>>10244070
keK bro ahaaha get triggereed sjwW!1
#rekt

[Anonymous No.10244111]

>>10244076
>>10244095
you didn't have to respond twice

[Anonymous No.10244117]

>>10243938
philosophers shaped history, as well as the very idea of history, turbobrainlet

[Anonymous No.10244125]

>>10243997
I am actually impressed. In contrast to Peterson, he has the right idea about what postmodernism is.

[Anonymous No.10244141]

>>10244117
napoleon and alexander the great shaped history, philosophers just sucked their cocks

[Anonymous No.10244143]

>>10244141
The ascent of Napoleon to power and the design of his centralized power apparatus was enabled by Enlightenment thinking, turbobrainlet.

[Anonymous No.10244152]

>>10244141
>Alexander the great
>Philosophers just sucked their cocks
You realise he was taught by Aristotle? And Diogenes told him basically to fuck off when Alexander went to go talk to him

[Anonymous No.10244153]

>>10244141
"Stand a little out of my sun".

[Anonymous No.10244157]

>>10244031
>needs a monarchy
Need a fucking Sixth Republic to purge this filth

[Anonymous No.10244160]

>>10244125
How does this differ from Peterson's view of postmodernism? It looks perfectly aligned to me. Grand narratives are at the core of what he talks about.

[Anonymous No.10244168]

>>10244160
Peterson spoke about "postmodernist Marxists", which is a contradiction in itself, which panders to the populist and nonsensical alt-right narrative that postmodernism is a continuation of Marxism by other means.

[Anonymous No.10244175]

His thought is a step more profound than that of, say, Merkel and Trump, but his politics is still good old neoliberalism, so what gives?

[Anonymous No.10244177]

>>10244076
>>10244095

[Anonymous No.10244179]

>>10244152
and? philosophers are the little cuck of history, they lay the foundations of a culture but they never achieve neither historical greatness (in the sense of carlyle's great man theory) nor actual knowledge (meaning scientific knowledge)

[Anonymous No.10244181]

>>10244168
He's well aware that it's a contradiction; he's said so numerous times. The cognitive dissonance is on the part of the neomarxists, not him.

[Anonymous No.10244185]

>>10244179
>They lay the foundations
>They never achieve historical greatness

[Anonymous No.10244191]

>>10244185
stefan molyneux laid the foundation of the rise of trump. tell me, did he achieve historical greatness?

[Anonymous No.10244198]

>>10244191

[Anonymous No.10244202]

>>10244179

>in the sense of carlyle's great man theory
>actual knowledge (meaning scientific knowledge)
>calls others intellectual midgets

The amazing thing is that the bait, crude as it was, actually worked.

4/10.

[Anonymous No.10244219]

>>10244179
>nor actual knowledge (meaning scientific knowledge
Scientific knowledge is not the totality of knowledge, brainlet. Sciencecucks can't even legitimate their own bullshit.

[Anonymous No.10244237]

>>10244219
> p-please m-mr rocket s-scientist a-admit that you n-need philosophers to study scientific epistemology to legitimize the value of your research
you sound panicked

[Anonymous No.10244249]

>>10244237

You should check out the philosophical writings of Niels Bohr, they're fairly interesting.

The fact that the last generation of truly brilliant scientists (Bohr, Einstein, Heisenberg, Planck) were all philosophically interested, and that the lack of genius in recent times coincide with a general lack of interest in and even disdain for philosophy, really, really activates my almonds.

[Anonymous No.10244260]

>>10243896
I think Plato was talking about a group of philosophers with full control. Not a single person who doesn't have that much power to begin with.

[Anonymous No.10244279]

>did his masters on Machiavelli
how on earth do people trust this sly bastard

[Anonymous No.10244296]

>In Paris, he failed to gain entry to the École Normale Supérieure twice.[26][27][28] He instead studied Philosophy at the University of Paris-Ouest Nanterre La Défense, obtaining a DEA degree (a master level degree, with a thesis on Machiavelli and Hegel).

So he failed at STEM and turned to philosophy. Makes sense.

[Anonymous No.10244302]

>>10244249
i am personally fascinated by the relationship between philosophy, humanities and science.

is there some good book that tackles the relationship between these fields?

[Anonymous No.10244309]

>>10244279
the alternative was the counter-enlightenment in the face of le pen

[Anonymous No.10244313]

HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ILL OF JUPITER
HIS THOUGHTS SPARKLE WITH A COMPLEXITY FAR BEYOND THE COMPREHENSION OF PLEBIANS SUCH AS YOURSELF

[Anonymous No.10244347]

>>10244249
>the only great scientists are the ones I did my high-school report on

[Anonymous No.10244418]

>>10244249
> who's shinichi mochizuki
> who's perelman
> who's edward witten
lmao philosophical brainlet strikes again

[Anonymous No.10244419]

>>10244249
This is either a perfect bait or the biggest piece of namedropping pseudointellectualism I have I ever seen.

[Anonymous No.10244426]

>>10244347
Name one scientist post-WWII who did anything close to what Bohr did.

[Anonymous No.10244428]

>>10243997
damn my respect levels for Macron just peaked

[Anonymous No.10244429]

>>10243896
He's way better than anyone in western Europe right now

[Anonymous No.10244437]

>>10244426
Chompsky

[Anonymous No.10244443]

>>10244428
Having a basic grasp on philosophy does not make you a good politician.
>>10244429
He continues the disastrous aimless politics of Hollands and Sarkozy.

[Anonymous No.10244450]

>>10244437

[Anonymous No.10244475]

>>10244443
What disastrous politics?

[Anonymous No.10244476]

>>10244426
what about that guy from tesla, who will bring ppl to space in 2020?

[Anonymous No.10244481]

>>10244476
you mean the guy almost entirely funded by the government because he can't run a business in the free market and who delegates the research work to other people because he can't do it himself?

[Anonymous No.10244483]

>>10244475
France is in its worst shape since decades, both economically (high levels of unemployment, McJobs on the rise, zero growth, rising govt debt) and socially (wave of terror and desorientation).

[Anonymous No.10244488]

>>10244428
Yippie! Having the needs of the people and the functions of the state dictated and justified by the grand narratives for the ruling class. Glory days! Glad we could return--

How dumb are you people? The power has structure never changed. It takes more than a few bois snipping their peepees and dikes painting their hair to destroy the myths we live by.

[Anonymous No.10244493]

>>10244483
Damn, I wanted to move there. Guess I'll just go to Germany.

[Anonymous No.10244494]

>>10244031
Nice.

[Anonymous No.10244502]

>>10244481
i guess you didnt get it. he's like a science steve jobs bruh

[Anonymous No.10244504]

>>10244041
https://youtu.be/_WGjwNnq0Ic?t=49

[Anonymous No.10244505]

>>10244483
Seems more like a temporary downturn due to the global financial crisis last decade.

[Anonymous No.10244507]

>>10244493
ehehehehe nice one XD

[Anonymous No.10244510]

>>10244493
You can still move there if you manage to get a good job. France is still a first world country, even if it is in decline. And it is still pathetically beautiful here and there.

[Anonymous No.10244511]

>>10244505

[Anonymous No.10244518]

>>10244505
Even before the crisis, you had an unemployment rate of around 10% and above, plus a good deal of shit-tier jobs. 25% youth unemployment.

That is not normal for a country that used to match Germany in terms of erxonomic performance.

[Anonymous No.10244520]

>>10244481
> MUH FREE MARKET

that's rich. how come that so many philosophers worshipped on /lit/ didn't sell a copy of their works while they were alive? sounds like free market is not that rational, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.10244521]

>>10244511
aaaaaand? you know that every economy is growing, you do? also GDP can be raised by inflation

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.10244523]

>>10244488
How can anyone look at the state of interpersonal relationships in the 21st century and not think that the cultural critics won? If it's something that's remained unchanged, then it's probably something inherent to the human personality

[Anonymous No.10244524]

>>10244493
not sure if sarcasm or naive seppo

[Anonymous No.10244526]

>>10244520
dumb frogposter

[Anonymous No.10244529]

>>10244426
blomph

[Anonymous No.10244535]

>>10244524
Why naive? Germany is actually growing. I have almost 0 chance to find a decent job here.

[Anonymous No.10244542]

>>10244535
It's growing, alright.

[Anonymous No.10244545]

>>10243896
>PLATO BTFO
But Macron is not a geometer.

>>10243997
>the french actually elected a fucking peterson fanboy lmao
And a monarchist, as per >>10244031 . In France. Yes. And they did all of this to escape the "nightmare" of voting an old woman scared of some Muslims. And there are people out there that somehow still think he's some manner of liberal (in the American sense, "social" liberal for Europeans).

Welcome to 21st century politics.

[Anonymous No.10244550]

>>10243997

wtf I love macaroon now

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.10244560]

>>10243997
but prove him wrong though

[Anonymous No.10244564]

>>10244542
Dude, I'm Italian. Why the fuck should I care about a couple of refugees (we have even more here, so idgaf) if the alternative is starving or living with mamma till she dies. Are you american?

[Anonymous No.10244568]

>>10244542
The /pol/ narrative has little to do with day-to-day reality. Germany is peaceful and everyone has a chance

[Anonymous No.10244572]

>>10244523
>state of interpersonal relationships in the 21st century

They are roughly the same as they were centuries before. Perhaps better, because people do not have to worry about survival all the time and have more time for introspection

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.10244597]

>>10244572
They're not roughly the same as they were centuries before. There's been a wave of atomization and social dislocation since the Church stopped serving its communal roles, and since families went from extended to nuclear, and as marriages went from life-long contracts to decade-long temporary arrangements. We live very differently to our pre-20th century ancestors.

[Anonymous No.10244604]

>>10244564
>Dude, I'm Italian.
In that case nevermind, good luck migrant

[Anonymous No.10244644]

>>10244604
Thanks

[Anonymous No.10244672]

>>10244597
You are adopting a Sprengler-ian or Rousseau-an view of Western civilization as one in constant decline.

In the times you speak about most people never had an elaborate private life. Most were farmers and workers that lacked basic self-awareness. They worked 60h on a factory, fucked, died. The individual quest for happiness was barely a thing back then.

[Anonymous No.10244705]

>>10244296
École Normale Supérieure isn't just STEM though as far as I know.

> The school has achieved particular recognition in the fields of mathematics and physics as one of France's foremost scientific training grounds, along with notability in the human sciences as the spiritual birthplace of authors such as Julien Gracq, Jean Giraudoux, Assia Djebar, and Charles Péguy, philosophers such as Henri Bergson, Jean-Paul Sartre, Louis Althusser, Simone Weil, Maurice Merleau-Ponty and Alain Badiou, social scientists such as Émile Durkheim, Raymond Aron, and Pierre Bourdieu, and "French theorists" such as Michel Foucault and Jacques Derrida.


Although my knowledge of this is limited since it's only stuff my French friends talked about, but iirc taking the exam to the Ecole is only allowed to those who had very good results in High School and spend a year or more in preparation for the exam with weekly tests (so basically extra High School years). And failing the exam just means that you get to go to another Uni with no extra effort on your part.

[Anonymous No.10244728]

>>10244705
Yep, it's not just stem.
It's basically a school for the best of the best. We have a similar one here called Scuola Normale.

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.10244746]

>>10244672
My views aren't as straightforward as Sprengler's. This is a fairly recent phenomenon, and is taking place alongside notable improvements in our material conditions. The notion that peasants never had elaborate private lives is questionable, but besides the point. The point is that every social movement we've had to free us from the tyranny of the collective have only served to alienate us from one another, and to atomize the individual by telling him that the only duty he has is to his own subjectivity.

[Anonymous No.10244758]

>>10244568
Junge du bist so ein Haufen Scheisse. Hast du mal die Augen auf gemacht? Warst du mal draussen oder sitzt du nur in deinem Keller? Wenn ja, wohnst du im Bauernkaff? /Pol/ Narrativ hin oder her, hier gehen Sachen ab die vor 10/20 Jahren undenkbar waren

[Anonymous No.10244774]

>>10244758
Du hast mich gefragt und ich hab nichts gesagt. Willst du bis der Tod uns scheidet . Treue sein für alle Tage. Sie lieben auch in schlechten Tagen.

[Anonymous No.10244775]

>>10244564
terrone

[Anonymous No.10244783]

>>10243938
Machiavelli, Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.10244786]

>>10244775
I ciociari sono terroni? Non l'ho mai capito

>>10244758
Heil Hitler

[Anonymous No.10244791]

>>10244564
cazzo t'aspetti se ti laurei in lettere?

[Anonymous No.10244804]

>>10244437
honk?

[Anonymous No.10244813]

>>10244791
Ma chi cazzo ha parlato di lettere turboricchione

[Anonymous No.10244826]

>>10244774
>Nein
Deine Antwort auf "Warst du mal draussen?"
Okay.

[Anonymous No.10244828]

>>10244813
che percorso lavorativo hai alle spalle allora?

[Anonymous No.10244832]

>>10244828
Ancora mi devo laureare, sto al secondo anno.

[Anonymous No.10244877]

The only issue that truly matters is immigration and his philosophy hardly prepared him to handle it.

[Anonymous No.10244903]

>>10243997
>Guize making any criticism to our power structures is meen, and it's totally your fault when our faculties can't even run on transparency and legitimacy in the face of this
What a baby lmao, no wonder he's a monarchist

[Anonymous No.10244923]

>>10244832
nel frattempo io sono un programmatore ed ho più offerte di lavoro di quante ne possa accettare. topkek /lit/cuck

[Anonymous No.10244994]

>>10243896
We have no idea how effective his reforms prove to be but Macrons rhetoric is superior to everyone out there and his ideas sound decent in theory. Watching his debate with that nazi lady, it was shocking to hear a politician with understanding about what he's talking about instead of just throwing it sound pieces.

>>10244483
Their economy works quite different from the usual neo-liberal hellhole so low growth and high unemployment aren't even a big deal. Look at their productivity.
They do need to shrink the state and ease up on bureaucracy but that's what he promises to do.

>>10244564
Kek, we've actually have quite a few Italians coming here recently. I am working with migrants and while good half of them are Syrian/Afghani/Iranians, lately there were 10% Italians.

>>10244758
Not him but in my moderately sized city in south Germany, nothing of relevance changed.

[Anonymous No.10245039]

>>10243896
/lit/ is a /radicalcentrist/ board.

E N M A R C H E

[Anonymous No.10245653]

>>10244994
>Their economy works quite different from the usual neo-liberal hellhole so low growth and high unemployment aren't even a big deal. Look at their productivity.
>low growth and high unemployment aren't even a big deal

If I had a brainlet image, I would post it.

[Anonymous No.10245778]

>>10245653
Look at the actual living standards of the people. Say compared to a similar sized economy and country that has better growth and lower unemployment. Say pre-suicide UK.

If opinion pieces from the Torygraph like http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11655310/France-is-better-than-Britain-but-were-scared-to-admit-it.html
or Daily Hail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1314112/France--Lets-British-quality-life-compare-continent.html aren't enough ...let's look at the naked data.

>https://data.oecd.org/chart/4ZBh (Poverty rate)
>https://data.oecd.org/chart/4ZBi (Household disposable income)
>https://data.oecd.org/chart/4ZBj (Household spending)
And extra keks: https://data.oecd.org/chart/4ZBk (Hours worked)
You'll be able to check costs for tertiary education, transportation, healthcare and the likes yourself. Also let's not forget the income inequality.
http://www.keepeek.com/Digital-Asset-Management/oecd/social-issues-migration-health/income-inequality_9789264246010-en#page25

[Anonymous No.10245805]

>>10244783
LOOOOOOL
>Nietzsche
>not beta
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Machiavella
>NOT eternally BTFO and BETA and sentenced to death and exile
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.10245811]

>>10245805
What about the Greeks?

[Anonymous No.10245816]

>>10244141
has to be a bait.. is it possible its not?

[Anonymous No.10245850]

>>10244168
>postmodernist Marxists

He explicitly notes that this is contradictory.

[Anonymous No.10245970]

>>10244181
>>10245850
It remains to be proved that said postmodernists really even consider themselves Marxists. Foucault and Baudrillard certainly didn't.

[Anonymous No.10245975]

How is Peterson not a postmodern thinker?

[Anonymous No.10245976]

>>10245970
He's usually referring to contemporary people, not historical people. He's not a fucking retard.

Also, by "marxist", he is referring to their social justice ideology, which is pretty much a spin-off of marxism.

[Anonymous No.10245980]

>>10245975
He believes in mythological metanarratives. He actually refers to them as "meta".

[Anonymous No.10245981]

>http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/juergen-habermas-on-the-european-vision-of-emmanuel-macron-a-1174721.html

>http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/emmanuel-macron-interview-on-french-election-campaign-a-1139214.html

[Anonymous No.10245983]

>>10245980
And this is sufficient?

[Anonymous No.10245997]

>>10245983
It is if we define postmodernism as rejection or skepticism of metanarratives.

[Anonymous No.10246009]

>>10245778
What matters is median after-tax income and the resulting purchasing power. France is no better for than the UK, but roughly equal in this regard.

What you call „suicide“ in the form of Thatcher-ian de-industrialization and limitation of government services happened in France as well.

[Anonymous No.10246019]

>>10245976
SJWism is not really Marxist. Marxism portrays history and consciousness as shaped by the economy and economic classes. The concepts of race and culture have no place.

[Anonymous No.10246024]

>>10246019
just replace economic class with race

[Anonymous No.10246034]

>>10245997
Which is a pretty weak definition.

[Anonymous No.10246038]

>>10246019
Hence, why I called it a spin-off

Just remove "proletariat" and "bourgeoisie" from marxist texts and replace them with "PoC/LGBTQ/Women/Muslims" and "white, western, male patriarchy" respectively. It's an oppression narrative just like marxism.

[Anonymous No.10246045]

>>10246034
Hey, well it's the preferred definition around here.

[Anonymous No.10246047]

>>10243938
Zzzzz

[Anonymous No.10246050]

>>10246009
>France is no better for than the UK
But they are. Not by a lot but still. Besides consider that they work much fewer hours for that, and have more people who profit from the wealth of the country, and have fewer poorfags despite more jobless fags. Also the stats are mostly from 2014-15. And all despite much worse growth of the economy.

Thatcher did just your usual neo-liberalism cancer^2, while France experienced it too, no other European country is nearly as bad at it as UK. Though with "suicide" obviously Brexit was meant. One can attempt to justify Thatcherism and some ideas of it weren't even that bad, it's the execution that sucked, but something like Brexit has pretty much zero benefits (sans providing entertainment) and extreme costs.

[Anonymous No.10246051]

>>10246045
That's convenient.

[Anonymous No.10246059]

>>10246045
>/lit/ is a shittier wikipedia

[Anonymous No.10246061]

>>10246038
Making each and every oppression narrative Marxist is a long, long stretch.

Are Star Wars and the story of the Jewish exodus from Israel also Marxist?

[Anonymous No.10246076]

>>10246050
Consider that the UK used to trail far, far behind France and Germany in the 1970s in terms of wealth. They actually catched up since then.

Brexit is not even entertaining. It is exhausting to watch, like a political soap opera, and in the end there is no way the UK will actually be reduced to a third party nation.

[Anonymous No.10246094]

>>10246061
The thing about social justice ideology is that it is directly related to marxism in that the class oppression content of marxism was stripped off and a gender/sexuality/racial oppression content was hung on its framework by the intelligentsia, ostensibly because marxism wasn't looking too hot after the horrors of the Soviet Union were revealed to the world.

[Anonymous No.10246115]

>>10246061
What you listed are stories of oppression. Marxist want to build opression into a grand narrative plebs vs bourgoises; poc/trans/faggots/roasties vs straight white males

[Anonymous No.10246144]

>>10246076
>in terms of wealth
Were their living standards that much worse tho? Besides, it's not like they didn't have a head start after WW2. Germany is another example how a strong and growing economy not necessary means better living standards, it recovered from the crisis just fine but for the average citizen nothing really changed for decades. At least frog-fags have to work less for their stagnating wages, while Germany and UK are overloaded with zero hour shit at cancerous minimum wages to artificially lower their unemployed stats.

>like a political soap opera
One where the actors are completely inept to a comical degree and some mixed up the play they are in. Sure, it got a bit boring now that shit became repetitive but the highlights like Cameron resigning the next day or May trying to show how strong and stable her support is and then losing sits to a "unelectable" Corbyn is stuff for the history books.

>and in the end there is no way the UK will actually be reduced to a third party nation
Saving us some funny reactions for the grand finale once it happens.

[Anonymous No.10246210]

>>10246094
>>10246115
Again, the idea that any oppression narrative is inherently Marxist is laughable. Were the crusaders Marxist?

Marxism is a particular oppression narrative, one of economic oppression. That is its defining novelty. Oppression narratives in general existed earlier.

[Anonymous No.10246285]

>>10246210
>Were the crusaders Marxist?
you are a charlatan

[Anonymous No.10246299]

>>10243938

Marcus Aurelius, shit-for-brains.

[Anonymous No.10246309]

>>10243919
Truly the original edgelord. I bet he cut himself.

[Anonymous No.10246316]

Any true philosopher would not go into politics because they would know what a corrupt, vapid, sychophantic, and sophist pursuit it is.

Politics is concerned with power, not truth or justice. The only politicians that have a semblance of true philosophy in their blood never make it big because they are unwilling to take bullshit stances and/or flip-flop on various topics.

So if this guy is a bad politician, don't blame it on philosophy, blame it on him as a person.

[Anonymous No.10246319]

>>10243896>>10243919
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>>10244020>>10244031>>10244041
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>>10244065>>10244070>>10244076

Dude is hitched to a fully desiccated human carcass, does continental philosophy do this to a man?

[Anonymous No.10246507]

>>10244437
He is a philosopher?

[Anonymous No.10246790]

>>10246045
no it isn't

[Anonymous No.10246819]

>>10243896
>Macron is the only world leader who studied philosophy
lol, Bubba, everyone who is in a career where rethoric and public speaking are important studies philosophy,

>not remotely better
take all educated politicians and compare them to illiterate warlords/tribal leaders and tell me they are not better.

philosophy'effect is on structures and values more than individuals. Even assuming non-philosophical individuals, the system influenced by philosophy will be more complex in its values.

>philosophy is useless to power, every new boss blitzing all family and supporters of previous boos is as good as social consensus over alternance.
jesus christ OP, you're a fucking mess

[Anonymous No.10246825]

>>10246819
>take all educated politicians and compare them to illiterate warlords/tribal leaders and tell me they are not better.
tribal warlords are more charasmatic

[Anonymous No.10246913]

>>10246819
>Bubba
sup geniefag

[Anonymous No.10246980]

>>10246144
>Germany is another example how a strong and growing economy not necessary means better living standards, it recovered from the crisis just fine but for the average citizen nothing really changed for decades.

It is the same shit in all developed nations and may have more to do with automation and globalization than labor market policies.

That said, further trampling on the working class after they were severely weakened by said developments, like Macron and other neoliberals do, is immoral and only worsens the situation.

>>10246144
>At least frog-fags have to work less for their stagnating wages, while Germany and UK are overloaded with zero hour shit at cancerous minimum wages to artificially lower their unemployed stats.

The German and British minimum wages are roughly the same as the French one, and the French also have their fair deal of temporary contracts, Zeitarbeit and similar cancer. France is no better off than Germany.

>Saving us some funny reactions for the grand finale once it happens.

If (!) Brexit happens the form we imagine it, e. g. Britain losing all privileges of EU membership. I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.10247047]

>>10244758
>kid you're a dumb shit. Have you ever used your eyes? Do you ever go outside or do you sit in your basement? Or do you live on a farm? /pol/ narrative here or there, there are things happening here that were unthinkable 10/20 years ago.

please rate my german reading skills

[Anonymous No.10247060]

>>10247047
You translated everything correctly, albeit it is not hard to decide stuff from the context

[Anonymous No.10247099]

>>10244758
>auf gemacht
kek

[Anonymous No.10247136]

>>10247060
i'll take it

[Anonymous No.10247173]

>>10243938
>>10244141
>tfw you correctly diagnose capitalism's structural defects and shape the next 170+ years of geopolitics

[Anonymous No.10247199]

>>10246024
>>10246038

>just replace the Marxist's core concept with another and the class struggle with virtue signaling on Twitter. See it's the same thing

[Anonymous No.10247342]

>>10244031
w-what the fuck I love Emmanuel "Restore the Stuarts" Macaroni & Cheese now