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10237730 No.10237730 [Reply] [Original]

What books does your girlfriend read?

>> No.10237747
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>>10237730

>> No.10237751

She was reading Dostoyevsky last time I saw her reading

>> No.10237753

>>10237730
My girlfriend is a book who reads me

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She doesn't read, for she doesn't exist.

>> No.10237757

>implying my girlfriend reads
Sometimes her stuff for grad school but rarely even that.

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My dia-
...

>> No.10237761

>>10237730
Phenomenology of Perception. I want to smooch her all the time.

>> No.10237767

>>10237730
I never have had a girlfriend. The girl I'm currently idealizing to the point of absurdity reads the Bible.

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I got her The Gate by Soseki in Japanese but she found it boring. She read pic related in English and liked it.

>> No.10237791

The /lit/ genes are on the Y chromosome, I have never known a single woman who can fluently discuss even the most entry-level literature and I work at one of the best tech institutes in the world (a biased sample but the women I interact with are top 99.99% academically)

>> No.10237796

Agatha Christie mostly. She's a better reader than me but doesn't try as hard. DESU I'm jealous of her

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I dont have a girlfriend.

>> No.10237807

>>10237730
Ones for work mostly.

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>>10237767
>Live in the most secular left city in the US
>Walking through campus
>Some girl in formal dress walks by and says hello
>Glance at her to respond and see a BIble, and cross on her neck
>Think nothing of it, until later when I realize that might have been my only chance to talk about Kierkegaard with the pure qt I always dream about
>Realize while typing this she was probably just trying to give me a waiver or something

>> No.10237817

>>10237791
You work in tech you retard, of couse your co-workers aren't into literature dumbshit.

>> No.10237832

>>10237817
The school is often called the best tech school in the world (CalTech) and the faculty and students are generally polymath (or moreso than you'll find basically anywhere). With male colleagues there are certainly some who are not "into" literature but equally common are men who are well read in philosophy, politics, social science, and literature in various languages. With women it's a completely different story, they are only "comfortable" discussing literature insofar as the abstract interplay of different schools have been explained to them by men in lit classes they've taken

>> No.10237835

Fucking John Green.

>> No.10237840

She has an Either/Or tattoo.

>> No.10237858

>>10237817
>>10237832
addendum: I don't hold it against them and I respect women who at least give it a shot because I appreciate women for what they are and I've only dated women who are themselves readers. But even the prodigious among them would be kicked in the pit of pseuds if judged simply for their input to /lit/ discussion

This isn't to say that there aren't exceptional women who shine brighter than most men but they are probably 1/10th in number or less of what you see in men.

>> No.10237881

Faulkner, O'Connor, Austen, but a whole bunch of shit really. She's more well read than I am. I think that's hot though.

>> No.10237892

>Sylvia Plath
>lots of bukowski and miller
>bronte
>lorca and borges in spanish
>whitman
>grimm brothers

>> No.10237913

>>10237840
M A R R Y
H E R
If you don't do it, you'll regret it

>> No.10237929

>>10237840
>Either/Or

Is she bi?

>> No.10237930

>>10237913
But if you do, you will also regret it.
t. based Kierke

>> No.10237936

>>10237761
aw

>> No.10238017

>>10237913
It's too soon for that. She said that I remind her of Pessoa and she named a stray cat Andre, after Andrei Tarkovsky.

>> No.10238036

>>10237840
my condolences lad, better luck next time

>> No.10238039

>>10238017
>She said that I remind her of Pessoa
brutal neg

>> No.10238044

That girl is so beautiful I don't even want to fuck her

>> No.10238048

My gf unironically thinks Milk and Honey is great.

What do I do /lit/? I love her, but holy shit she's so dumb and infantile. We're 20 and she is addicted to Harry Potter and Disney films. She sees some kind of virtue in living as a child in an adult's body.
Did I fuck up by dating a basic white girl?

>> No.10238055

>>10237812
Odds are she has not read Kierkegaard. If she has, odds are she has an elementary understanding of him, and not just because she’s a girl.

>>10237730
Slim to none, as all the best should. Read Montaigne OP.

>> No.10238057

>>10238048
>She sees some kind of virtue in living as a child in an adult's body. Did I fuck up by dating a basic white girl?

this is common with females in general bro. my friend's wife likes animated kids movies and she's in her early 30's

schopenhauer was right, woman is an intermediate between man and child

>> No.10238059

>>10237730
Got her a Freud book, but she hasn't opened it yet. Actually getting her to read through it with me tomorrow or the day after. Getting her to write notes and discuss concepts with me. Should be fun. She's right out of high school and interested in pursuing psychology, so I thought I'd start her on psychoanalysis since it's more fun than cognitive science shit nowadays.

>> No.10238065

>>10238048
>She sees some kind of virtue in living as a child
Make her feel stupid and call you daddy

>> No.10238078

>>10238057
>friend's wife likes animated kids movies and she's in her early 30's
Out of curiosity, do they have kids? I know some people might enjoy watching Disney films after being forced to watch it with their children.
I just don't see what benefit a woman has from being the middle ground between us and children. Or perhaps there is no biological or social reason. They just are.
I'm a southern European living in an Anglo country, and for some reason I've noticed it is way more prominent among Anglo women to act in an infantilised manner

>>10238065
The whole daddy thing doesn't work, because most basic bitches now have that as a kink.

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>>10237758
-rrhea...

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>>10238078

>> No.10238097

>>10238078
>Out of curiosity, do they have kids? I know some people might enjoy watching Disney films after being forced to watch it with their children

They don't, they were just married in July.

> for some reason I've noticed it is way more prominent among Anglo women to act in an infantilised manner

the woman in question is Palestinian. she's spoiled though: her dad is a wealthy businessman in Dubai, and she grew up in Anglo countries (Canada and the US) in the lap of luxury.

>I just don't see what benefit a woman has from being the middle ground between us and children. Or perhaps there is no biological or social reason.

huh, isn't it obvious? If women are psychologically closer to children they can relate to children more easily, hence their propensity for skill in child-rearing.

>> No.10238099

>>10237730
>met a cute, only mildly degenerate/tattooed girl who works near the cafe where I hang out
>reads a lot, has pigtail braids exactly like these
>become friends over a few months
>ask her out
>she mentions a boyfriend
>in the ~6 months since then I have never seen or heard about this boyfriend again
>tfw she almost certainly made him up to get rid of me

please stop posting threads like this; i read and hang out here to forget about my life, not to be reminded of it. my heart literally hurts.

>> No.10238107

>>10238099
tattoos are the mark of the beast, dude. You're not missing out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Belle_Dame_sans_Merci

>> No.10238110

>>10238099
you probably waited too long if you were friends for a "few months" beforehand, if you ever had a chance at all

avoid oneitis like the plague if you're single

>> No.10238114

>>10238107
but they're so cute sometimes

>>10238110
we weren't super close, just chatted when we would see each other. definitely wasn't turned down because of a "i don't want to ruin our friendship" thing. i just don't think she was into me.

>avoid oneitis

i try, but it's easier said than done, right? lonely->get oneitis->bungle your chances->lonely

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>>10237730
infinite jest

>> No.10238118

>>10237730
She's reading the Odyssey. I was honestly surprised to learn that it's required reading in middle school now (even more so that they don't require the students to read any other Greek work before hand).

>> No.10238119

>>10237730
She likes The Book Thief and To Kill a Mockingbird :(

I got her to read One Hundred Years of Solitude and she really liked it. But most of her favorite books are things like Harry Potter and The Great Gatsby.

One of her friends tried to get her to read Milk and Honey and she got bored halfway through and told me it sucked, so I guess I can thank Jesus for that. It could be worse.

>> No.10238128

>>10237730
How do I get a girlfriend who looks like this? /fit/? /fa/?

I’m not a complete autist, have kissed a couple girls and done naughty things Jesus wouldn’t approve of, but I’m not a chad either.

>> No.10238129

>>10238128
>not being a Chad
you're going to have to set your sights about 8 tiers lower on the 1-10 hierarchy, sorry to say

>> No.10238130

>>10238114
>but it's easier said than done, right?

true, but still you have to at least recognize the disease when you have it. it is *the* worst thing that can happen for your chances. if you fall in love with a girl before she falls in love with you you almost might as well give up because they smell that shit on you like phermones and you're immediately filed in the 'harmless orbiters' pile

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>your girlfriend

Yeah...her. I'll ask her when I get one

>> No.10238154

>>10237730
She's poor and couldn't afford both books and rent. Since we moved together she reads my books: Wolfe, McCarthy, Conrad, Kadare, Borges, Herbert, Melville. She loves Kazantzakis the most.

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The packaging on makeup products.

>> No.10238199

>>10238116
>"I POSTED IT AGAIN!!!"

>> No.10238206

>>10238129
What do you rate the girl OP posted then? I like to think I’ve been with girls that have at least been above average, so 6-7/10.

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>>10238206
She's a sublime 10 but that's irrelevant
Chad is defiling all of the innocent 3-10 maidens within a 20 mile radius as we speak. You have a choice between sloppy seconds off of his used meat (and even if you can momentarily bag a woman of higher rank than yourself she's already addicted to Chad cock) or virginal hamplanet/horsefaced/otherwise genetically disadvantaged young ladies. These are hard times for men who are not named Chad

>> No.10238233

>>10238225
You are just a pathetic incel.

>> No.10238239

>>10238225
Huh. I see.

>> No.10238258

>>10238233
Not incel but definitely bitter, genetically I'm about an 8/9 or maybe even 10 but I have a shit personality and no life prospects, I got addicted to the thrills of beautiful girls in my youth and young adult years, but fell into bouts of angst/depression over life circumstances, got out of shape, dropped out of life and didn't become the Chad that I may have. And now women of my age are looking for providers to settle with and don't even look twice at me because I spend all of my free time reading books and being antisocial rather than chasing readily available low-hanging/low-end tail

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>>10238225

you seem like a fun chill dude

those women are clearly missing out big time

>> No.10238263

>>10237730
Pic unrelated, never a blonde. Once you go blonde, you'll find you've been conned.

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10238273

She loves architecture and reads a lot of interesting histories and academic work on the subject.

But "for fun"? She's reading some P.G. Wodehouse atm

>> No.10238274

>>10238263
especially not one with plaits, absolutely disgusting

>> No.10238281

>>10238258

>I got addicted to the thrills of beautiful girls in my youth and young adult years

So you're basically an ex-normie and now you post on /lit/ trying to convince anon that your """problems""" are the same. Is that it?

I have never known the normie life and I'm not even close to being as bitter as you are. Lighten up, Francis.

>> No.10238290

>>10238258
Neck yourself loser

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>>10238281
Poon is addictive, my dude. It can seriously warp the mind of a man if he is not careful. Once you've had it you either maniacally orient your life in such a way that you will always have a supply of it, go full ascetic to minimize contact with women, or go lunatic somewhere in the middleground between those two states
You can guess which way I went

>> No.10238309

>>10238290
Why? So I pass up on puss to maximize the amount of time I have to read books, what's wrong with that?

>> No.10238313

Her beauty starts from the chaos of hair golden hair
A stellar flow tamed with twin braids of holy flair

>> No.10238319

>>10238114
I'm too much of a beta nerd to even know What oneitis means...explain please

>> No.10238321

>>10238309
>pass up

Mhm, sure thing buddy

>> No.10238327

Won't lie like the rest of you and say I have a gf. But oneitis reads pleb-tier stuff like bukowski and camus. At least she reads though, and intelligence in a woman is overrated anyway.

>> No.10238329

>>10238258
I’m the original commenter you replied to and I feel bad for you. You can always get back in shape my dude. Do a trade. You don’t have to be super educated. Being well read helps your personality. You don’t have to be bitter.

Perhaps I’m not so far off from being a chad, but I probably have too introverted of a personality to ever truly make it. Still, it’s not so bad having 6-7/10 girls worshipping me telling me I’m out of their league.

You can do it my dude.

>> No.10238332

>>10238327
WHAT DOES THAT WORD MEAN ONEITIS

>> No.10238334

>>10238332
Google it, retard.

>> No.10238338

>>10238304

>Poon is addictive, my dude.

I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying that your """problems""" pale in comparison to what actual fuckups around here deal with. And they don't even cry about it as much as you do. You are liek babby.

Stop being all woe is me and try to use this misery as a means of growing some humility and personality. Then you'll actually get something out of it.

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>>10238332
When you believe she is the one Love of your life? Being afflicted by severe crush? I'm guessing.

>> No.10238343

>>10238321
You don't think certain men make the conscious decision to orient their life in such a way that they know will result in their losing access to sex? Some people choose not to interact with other people. I'm not totally happy about it but I don't really have the motivation to discontinue my current habits because I don't personally see the point in social interaction with someone who is "midway between a child and a man" and I don't care to give up free time merely for the sake of acquiring sex

>>10238329
kek I appreciate the sentiment. I'm extremely introverted as well, to me the energy/reward tradeoff of pursuing social relationships isn't worth it. I don't have any male friends either so it's more a matter of my connection to the entire world outside my head. Some people are just pathologically weird

>> No.10238345

>>10238225
this
the other anons having a go at you have no idea how far hypergamy has gone

>> No.10238347

>>10238329
I’ve had girlfriends but in the few experiences I accumulated I was always missing something. Like chad here says sex is addicting but I felt empty. Then I read the Brothers Karamazov and i realized what i wanted to find a girl that loves me like Lisa loves Alyosha in the betrothed chapter. Almost cried on the realization that such love is fiction and can never come to life.
>>10238332
Oneitis is used to refer to the obsessive love men tend to have with their first love and even some subsequent ones. Basically he thinks she is “the one”. No such mythical beast exists.

>> No.10238351

>>10238334
Thanks brah, I got it

>> No.10238352

>>10238343
You never touched pussy unless you hired a hooker incel.

>> No.10238354

>>10238347
I get this way with almost any woman who talks to me desu..im that much of a loser in that way. However, I can switch it off after awhile.
I had a woman almost fall asleep on me (we work nights so she literally almost fell asleep) while i was talking about some of the books I was interested in and why.

>> No.10238357

>>10238347
>Then I read the Brothers Karamazov and i realized what i wanted to find a girl that loves me like Lisa loves Alyosha in the betrothed chapter. Almost cried on the realization that such love is fiction and can never come to life.
Damn. I often feel this too desu. Will have to read this after I finish Moby-Dick. What translation do you recommend? I picked up the MacAndrew translation at a thrift books and it’s been sitting on my shelf for a while, but I never see that translation mentioned on here.

>> No.10238358

>>10237730
she was reading jordan peterson (she has daddy issues)

>> No.10238362

>>10238092
It takes a man, a good one, to raise children properly. Kids are not good at raising kids.

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>>10238352
I've been in longterm sexual relationships. You know how they say the male forebrain continues to develop until the age of about 25? Well somewhere along the way I came up against a wall of adverse circumstances in my life resulting in the end of an important relationship to me, it left some psychosocial trauma and part of my coping mechanism involved burying myself in autodidact-ism of every subject that interests me. This ended up in my becoming increasingly dependent on escaping to realms of abstract thought all on my lonesome and at some point I realized I'd changed so much that I don't even really know how I'll ever reinsert myself into interpersonal reality
It can happen, maybe you're just lucky it didn't happen to you. No need to be bitter about. By the way, why are you bitter about it?

>> No.10238369

>>10237796

>She's a better reader than me but doesn't try as hard. DESU I'm jealous of her

I feel like this too, she reads way faster and better than I do, but I try to read more shit than she does.

She mostly reads philosophical essays and poetry. She also likes Zelda Fitzgerald a lot and says she has an spiritual connection with her.

>> No.10238371

>>10238357
I read the Garnett translation and it brought me to tears at 2 or 3 different points in the book

>> No.10238377

>>10238357
I got the Richard Pevear everyman’s library one on amazon because it claimed to be “closest to the original russian”. I can’t really verify that statement though. This was my introduction to Dolstoesvki and Russian literature in general and I have found it very easy to read.

>>10238357
>>10238354
I’ve come to agree with the conclusion that only men are the true romantics. In matters of th heart women always seem to have more practical matters to attend to.

>> No.10238378

>>10238352
>>10238290
these kinds of threads always get so bitter late at night lol

>> No.10238383

>>10238364
Dude I think I am starting to go down your road and it’s painful. Does it get better? Should I try harder to fight against it?

>> No.10238386

Recipe book

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>>10238383
"better" is subjective, I'm still a viable adult male and I feel compelled to pursue social life and to breed, I'd love to start a family for instance but considering I don't have friends and don't attempt to make friends the prospect of doing so is abstract and distant
I feel shitty about it a lot of the time, but I also remember how shitty unrequited love feels and I'm definitely phobic of ever putting myself in that situation again, and I honestly think if I went all the way to making a family with someone and it didn't work out I would be completely broken psychologically. Basically I don't trust women anymore and the realm of the intellect is at least something I have control over
Right now I feel a stronger compulsion to learn about things because I feel ignorant, the world is too enormous and I have an egotistical desire to wrap my mind around everything. As a result I'm a dissipated wreck of a person but I always have something to do with my time

in other words, DO SOMETHING NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE, LOL

>> No.10238401

>>10237730
Harry Potter.
Winnie The Pooh.
At least she hates John Green as much as me.

>> No.10238420

>>10238398
Sad man. But I also know the pain of rejection. I don’t know how to trust women anymore either. They seem foreign ad distant to me. Being a graduate student in Comp. Sci doesn’t help either.

My biggest blocker is this riddle I can’t get past. Unlike you i am no chad so i have to work for it hard, like really hard. Is it worth it the work to get married to a mediocre girl with few looks that has taken a mile of dick and can then take half my shit at her leisure? Is this the bounty of a lover’s toil?

Also, the world of human knowledge is now too large for a single mind. You will disolve you self into nothing if you don’t find focus.

>> No.10238434

>>10237730
She just finished underground railroad and is reading invisible man now. I wish she would finish writing her own novel tho..

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>>10238420
>grad student
At least you're working on something concrete, my dude. That's something to be proud of

And as for being a chad I had said previously that I'm "genetically" "gifted", but I basically meant that I have(had, lel) a nice face and I'm tall. Poor hygiene and mental health can really fuck you up physically so at this point I'm somewhat far-gone in that respect.
But as you get older physical traits seem to matter less and less to women as far as I can tell. Women are generally more pragmatic about romance than men as someone else in this thread has pointed out. It becomes more a matter of having a stable/valuable personality and having some "circumstance" to bring to the table.
As for me I said previously that I have a shit personality, so I'm broke, unqualified, AND I don't play well with others. It's a magic formula for loneliness. Obviously you don't have to submit yourself to being like me if you don't want to and it sounds like you're a "reliable" enough person to at least set your mind on achieving something. Whether or not you can have a stable relationship just depends on how much you personally want to be with someone else. It does take some work, as you said. It's a trade-off and I won't lie to you and say that I know what the proper choice is

And as for the world being too big, it really is! There are not enough hours in the day and I am completely torn between staying alive, being a 21st century dilettante and keeping up/wrapping my brain around fucking /pol/ happenings and mentally preparing for the likely insane future coming down the pipes. Shits crazy my man

That was a nice ramble, hope that gave you a good sense of how not to be :-)

>> No.10238449

>>10237730
>russian co-worker
>she saw me reading ebook
>apparently she loves to read too
>recommended me few of her favorite russian authors, Dosto, Chekhov, Nabokov and Pelevin
Started practicing my russian with her. Too bad she's married.
btw "The Yellow Arrow" by Pelevin is pretty good тбх

>> No.10238452

>>10238364
> the male forebrain continues to develop until the age of about 25
>tfw 4 months away from being a 25 year old virgin

I am perfectly functional in a platonic context, to the point that people expect me to be equally romantically/sexually successful. But actually I had a very hard time with girls through college, and was only starting to improve, being on the cusp of successfully dating/having sex when I finished school. Haven't been on a date since. At this point an intimate connection is such a foreign idea to me that I can't even imagine what it would be like, while at the same time I can see that the lifetime lack of it is increasingly wearing me down. The motivation to exercise and even to read, which have been the two things keeping me afloat, is slipping away. I'm losing the fight against myself. I have occasional moments (from minutes to whole days) when I feel a rage to live, but I always slip back into the mire.

Most of my non-reading time is now spent thinking about killing myself and vacillating on the issue. I can't get it out of my head. In my moments of hope it seems like most of my problems are just a few simple decisions away (get a job, ask out a few girls) but frankly I'm in so deep that I don't even really want to get better. I just don't want to be here. I want this to be over. The gulf between my condition and even a semblance of happiness seems so insurmountable as to not even be worth approaching. I don't even know what "happy" would be.

>"In all other maladies we seek for help...so sweet, so dear, so precious above all other things in this world is life...But to a melancholy man, nothing so tedious, nothing so odious; that which they carefully seek to preserve he abhors."

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>>10238449
>Too bad she's married.
cyкa

>> No.10238456

>>10238364
Look anon, you just seemed like the typical "REEEE FEMOIIIDS" incel. Truth is we all get hurt, men and women alike. Don't hold it against them, you have no idea what heartache you caused in turn. If you wanna be an ascet, fine, nobody worth listening to is going to call you on it. Just don't turn your failures or wounds into hate. Hate is baggage. Carry that around long enough and it takes a toll on you. My grandpa had a saying: "I wish you all the joy in the world even if that leaves less to me."

Dog bless.

>> No.10238469
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>>10238456
Noted, I try not to be bitter most of the time. Dog bless you and based grandpa

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>>10238456

Different anon but I also take back what I said about you only having ex-normie problems earlier: you are definitely a true /lit/ loser. The amount of shit I relate to in your posts is scary.

Don't neck yourself, please. Thank you.

>> No.10238480

Pynchon, actually

>> No.10238484

>>10237791
The /sci/ genes are on the Y chromosome, I have never known a single woman who can fluently discuss even the most entry-level theory and I work at one of the best litt institutes in the world (a biased sample but the women I interact with are top 99.99% academically)

>> No.10238488

>>10238017
Man, this cannot be true.

>> No.10238489

>>10237751
good taste

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>>10238452
don't go full blackpill my friend, life is worthwhile even without having friends or romance. And to be completely honest, loneliness is only a problem in the way you've described yourself insofar as the only thing that matters to you is interpersonal relationships. I've felt the way you do and relief came to me from finding other aspects of life that bring me joy. If you figure out a way to be less focused on the overly negative outlook (that you're a virgin and there's a cosmic stopwatch ticking away) and just take joy in being alive you are drastically more likely to make some friends. It's hard for me to completely relate to what you're saying because I feel like I've gotten over that hump and submitted myself to loneliness, but I don't see any reason to tell you that you definitely have to do the same. Everyone is different. Only thing I know is that suicide is pretty much always the shitty option if you're healthy and young

>> No.10238501

>>10238484
see >>10237832
The people where I am are some of the smartest people on the planet. Everyone is tech-minded but there are far more generally intelligent polymathic people here than in a random sample of people. Usually being highly intelligent comes with having many interests

Maybe it has somewhat to do with affirmative action enrollment leading objectively lower-percentile (IQ) female students. Among the staff it's a different story because basically everyone at higher rungs of the departments are geniuses and though there are much fewer women in those roles, they are usually somewhat "male" in their apparent cognitive "format"

>> No.10238502

>>10238357
>>10238347
Nah this is bull. I've had girls love me all sorts of ways but the make-things-better switch is in your own head, they can't push it.

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>>10238470
>don't neck yourself
lol I'll try :-)

>> No.10238535

>>10238470
I used to be a NEET for a while. Got a job, a gf, lost both, I've been employed for 3 years now and burned through a couple of relationships already. Sometimes because of me, sometimes because of the gals, hurts either way. I still litpost during cig breaks or on public transport, mostly due to habit. The NEET is always there tho, lurking under the surface. I'm turning 30 soon tho so I find myself not caring much.

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>>10238535
>The NEET is always there tho, lurking under the surface.
NEETdom is a curse, Marx warned of this

>> No.10238552

>>10238543
Yeah well, my fiancee(normie get out etc.) is a country girl and she's the work til you drop type so I have to work too. Found the pleasures of gardening to be pretty rewarding so I guess there's that. Also, homegrown grass and grapes are God's blessing.

>> No.10238565

>>10237730
She's read Dostoyevsky, Kafka, Spengler, Nietzsche, Chesterton, and so much more. Far better read than I.

>> No.10238576

Salinger and a bunch of Russians.

>> No.10238585

I got her a few books, she liked the Kafka novels a lot and is currently reading Rilke

slowly but surely..

>> No.10238589

>>10237892
>lorca
Hand her over
Right now

>> No.10238701

>>10238452
God dam this is me but im 26

>Haven't been on a date since. At this point an intimate connection is such a foreign idea to me that I can't even imagine what it would be like, while at the same time I can see that the lifetime lack of it is increasingly wearing me down. The motivation to exercise and even to read, which have been the two things keeping me afloat, is slipping away. I'm losing the fight against myself. I have occasional moments (from minutes to whole days) when I feel a rage to live, but I always slip back into the mire.

I wonder if this is what being a jew in the west is like, almost the same but different on a very fundamental level.

Im almost indistinguishable from regular people and by this age everyone just assumes youve had and are having sex.

>> No.10238707

She doesn't read. The only thing she has in her head is my cock.

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>>10237812
You had but one job my dear Anon.

>> No.10238723

>>10237730
she read murakami and college related. In a way you could even say Murakami is college related since she studies japanese and I got her two murakami books in original japanese, she is very fond of them. She also read Lolita, Crime and Punishment, The Great Gatsby and books in similar vein (popular classics).

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she's mostly reads for fun Jojo Moyes, Lucinda Riley that type, other then that she is reads a lot of spanish, she is trying to learn that, but she is pretty well read in the classics

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>>10237812
Are qt Muslim girls /Halit/?

>> No.10238746

>>10238701
I relate to this so hard. It's really jarring when someone casually brings up sex in a really mundane conversational way that makes it clear they just assume I (like a normal human being, I guess?) am regularly having sex, or have ever had sex at all. I am, after all, a remarkably normally guy in pretty much ever respect.
Like just casually complaining that the good brands of condoms are just annoyingly expensive for something so simple. Presented with the same casual banality as "geez, have you seen the price of avocados these days?" But to me, as a 22-year old virgin, sex is still some distant pipedream. And every year it seems to feel less and less likely I'll ever have it.

>> No.10238764

My would be gf reads paperbacks from the 40s and GoT
She is a theatre goer.

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>>10238746
Here is something from a Houellebecq that smashed me in the feels that you might relate to.

>Sure. It's been hopeless for a long time, from the very beginning. You will never represent, Raphaël, a young girl's erotic dream. You have to resign yourself to the inevitable; such things are not for you. It's already too late, in any case. The sexual failure you've known since your adolescence, Raphaël, the frustration that has followed you since the age of thirteen, will leave their indelible mark. Even supposing that you might have women in the future - which in all frankness I doubt - this will not be enough; nothing will ever be enough. You will always be an orphan to those adolescent loves you never knew. In you the wound is already deep

Sometimes I wish I never read at all so that I would be blind to such beautiful possibilities of love and companionship.

Pic related

>> No.10238784

>>10238766
which book is it from?

>> No.10238797

>>10238784
IIRC "Whatever"

>> No.10238814

>>10238443
not the anon you replied to...... but.... shit mate, this hits way too close to home
>hope that you have a good sense of how not to be
im screwed

>> No.10238816

>>10237730
fucking Nicholas Sparks and James Patterson...

>> No.10238822

>>10238814
Not that anon but how old are you?

>> No.10238823

>>10237791
>top 99.99%
>better than only .01%
Brainlets get out

>> No.10238826

>>10238452
homie, i want you to take this seriously, im not trying to shill you into beliefs. but read the bible. read something like "mere christianity". just dive in, put aside whatever your opinion is on faith, and just give it a chance. just open the bible and read. commit yourself for a while, do this every day for an hour, like reading any other book, and start at a new place every time. if you want something happy read the damned narnia books for god's sake (literally). being a christian is not your goal here, helping yourself is. and it will help, just give it a chance. you dont have to really believe any of it, just give it a real fighting chance inside you. prayers that you find your way anon

>> No.10238828

>>10237730
My wife and I read what each other reads so we can discuss it together.

>> No.10238840

>>10238822
19, but i feel like im already in for it

>> No.10238850

>>10238488
Why? Well, we met randomly, in a small country she doesn't speak the language of.

>> No.10238851

>>10238840
You still have time

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>>10237730
GEM Anscombe
Nabokov
Tolstoyevsky
St. Thomas Aquinas
Plato and Aristotle
Ian McEwan
Iris Murdoch
Ludwig Wittgenstein
Josef Pieper
any classic British kids' book (Wind in the Willows, Alice in Wonderland, Lewis and Tolkien)
Gene Wolfe

trying to get her to read Melville but a) it's really a book for men and b) she's deathly afraid of whales.

>> No.10238863

>>10238851
I'm not so sure but thanks for the positive thought nonetheless. I went through my fratboy phase at age 16-17 and then turned into an introspective introverted monk afterwards. idk what happened, but it changed me big time. Perhaps this is the better alternative to fratboy, but it takes a toll - way too much time to think about things that I simply never would or ought...

God bless, anon

>> No.10238904

Why do you misogynists think it is important for women to be intelligent?

They should only be pretty and ready to raise children.

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>>10237730

>> No.10238980

She doesn't read anything except her med textbooks, she's a 90% turbopleb in general, won't watch movies older than 2000, only listens to Top 40 music etc.

>> No.10239068

>>10238784
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whatever_(novel)

Holy shit. It’s basically like so french fag wrote you life.
>>10238766
That quote is literally the longing I feel. Holy shit is the author any good otherwise?

>> No.10239085

>>10238784
It’s the translation of Extension du domain the la lutte. Funny enough a french critique of capitalism.... in the sexual market. Frenchies with their socialism.

>> No.10239097

my collection of bfs and gfs are all members of my slave harem. They are illiterate because I do not want them to become independent, therefore they read no books.

>> No.10239175

>>10238099
>only mildly degenerate
What a world we live in.

>> No.10239181

>>10238118
Underrated post.

>> No.10239191

>>10238364
>>10238398
>>10238443
your posts are an extremely accurate portray of my existence as well. i've been on imageboards for quite a long time, but realizing that, deep down, many of us are the the one and the same never fails to strike a chord with me. the word's best and brightest are really the most broken souls.
i've always been obsessed with becoming a sort of goethe's Faust and that prevented me from developing any significant social relationship because I never felt like I lived up to the image I seeked to have. i was good-looking, but it wasn't enough so i have refused almost every girl who wanted to indulge in intercourses with me during the adolescence, i was a good programmer, but still not enough to outsmart every other in a comp. sci lab and the envy took the best of me and boycotted my social interactions. math, literature, cinema knowledge? the same. but the thirst for knowledge never decreased. and here am I, 24 yo, with an ever-increasing lust for learning despite the inevitable neuroticism that I developed over the years.

see you in our cyberpunk future anon, let's bear witness together what awaits us

>> No.10239192

>>10238099

>>in the ~6 months since then I have never seen or heard about this boyfriend again

you kept awkwardly going back that place for six months after that?

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>>10238701
>>10238701
>hey anon, you know when you have a date and/or sex with a girl and this and this happens?
>y-yeah t-that's so silly ah ah
>tfw

>> No.10239205

>>10238766
d-delet...

>> No.10239280

>>10238099
>i read to forget about my life
That's what drugs are for, not literature

>> No.10239288

Currently Aristotle's nicomachean ethics, she's complaining about the shitty translation she is reading.

>> No.10239298

>>10239200
dude too real

except I've never been/never will be interested in sex at all. Having a bf/gf to love and hold but not fuck would be nice though.

>> No.10239307

>>10239068
>Hasn't heard of Oilybecku
Whatever is his worst btw

>> No.10239314

>>10238357
The MacAndrew translation isn't bad btw, it can just be a bit too contemporary and Americanized in places for my taste. McDuff is a generally solid choice, not as many people shit on it as they do with Garnett and P&V, which both have their merits but tend to be polarizing.

>> No.10239347

>>10238502
I don’t understand what you mean by that Chad. Basically I realized I wanted to say this >>10238766 anon’s quote. Adult love seems almost transactional to me in a way. Its missing something dolstoyevski captures between Lise and Alyosha. Something like the raw emotion innocence brings. Basically unlike you I haven’t had girls love me all sorta of way. Only some ways. Usually with the resigned passion of a second love.

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>>10239347
It might be some naive /r9k/ impulse but I feel that first teen love can be something greater, because of how divorced from "real life" you are at that age. Dedicating your whole existence to interacting with peers outside of the adult world, I don't know if it's nostalgia or if there really was an affect of magic realism. I'm feeling that Houllebeque quote again

>> No.10239576

>>10238701
>actually thinks 21st century jews still have the Yellow Badge and are discriminated against in any way whatsoever

>> No.10239616

>>10239576
this is not what he said at all, you fucktard. i suppose that what he meant to say is that they still act like a cohesive social group whose cultural identity is foreign to the western land they inhabit despit being integrated into its social ecosystem

>> No.10239739

>>10238116
Common man we’ve all got some bad angles. Most of us probably don’t even have a single good one.
>>10237730
I’ve stared at it so long it’s almost like she looks at me in contempt. Her smile now screams disgust to me. If even for only that instant she achieved transcendent beauty.

>> No.10239747

>>10239347
What I mean is that teenage love is stupid and full of shitty dramas, your romanticised notion of it is a total illusion. The only thing you've missed out on is the chance to realise that.

>> No.10239751

>>10237730
>your girlfriend
>implying I'm not a faggot

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Book of Disquiet, Society of the Spectacle, Of Grammatology, The Bible, Senselessness.

>> No.10239765

>>10237730
Her favorite book is On Ugliness by Umberto Eco, and she loves Faust I and II, but doesn't read very regularly. Last book I saw her reading was 99 Francs, she didn't really like it, though.

>> No.10239779

>>10239747
Kek are you implying adult love isn’t filled with shitty dramas? Shitty drama is inevitable only when you’re older you’re also risking half your shit and your children.
It also gets harder to tell why a girl likes you. Is she there for your cirmstance or because she actually likes you. You can have status in adolescent life don’t get me wrong but it’s qualitatively a different thing. It’s not perfect, perhaps its not even better but I missed it and hurts. It also taints my future loves because if I wasn’t worthy enough in youth why am I worthy enough now? In a sense that initial rejection taints all later love like in this guys quote.
>>10238766

>> No.10239802

>>10239779
No, I'm implying that teenage love drama is magnitudes of order more petty and idiotic. But you wouldn't know about either.
Everything else is in your head.

>> No.10239812

>>10238469

Can I ask you how did you select this precise image, anon? Does it bear any special significance to you?

>> No.10239822

>>10239802
Thank you anon for your great wisdom. Now that I know its all in my head I can go ahead and just live life like the chad I was meant to. How could I have been so blind! Good bye lit I have a bunch of roasties waiting for my enlightened chad dick.

>> No.10239826

None she is a brainlet

>> No.10239831

>>10239822
There are none so blind as them who refuse to see.

>> No.10239839

I honestly can't imagine myself ever having a romantic partner when I can barely live with my own bullshit.

>> No.10239846

>>10239839
That's actually a very honest and healthy way of looking at relationships, but I would remind you long lasting romantic love is a comiseratint kind where you share with each other your weights and aches.

Toni Morrison's Beloved had a line from one lover to the other: "Let me put my stories next to yours." I think that speaks to the iterant friendship necessary for love.

>> No.10239854

>>10239831
Sure that was dismissive bullshit. But saying it’s all in your head isn’t all that informative. I get it those are my problems and perhaps the same problem many anons face. I talk about it here because with likeminded individuals perhaps there is a solution: a better way to think about this problem that causes us so much suffering. The fact that plenty of anons experience a similar pain and that entire books have been written to deal with the solitude of modern man tells me that perhaps it’s not a problem solved solely by indicating it’s within our head.
I suspect though that the romantization of youthful love is a symptom of something deeper.

>> No.10239855

>>10238589
shes mexican. big and beautiful. god bless the failiures of the american border patrol.

>> No.10239861

>>10239854
Maybe all those books have had to be written about it because when you tell people the simple truth they get angry and call it dismissive bullshit.

>> No.10239864

>>10239846
I like your take on it.
>>10239839
I’ve come to the realization that you can get away with a lot of bullshit with some people. In retrospect I’m surprised at how much bullshit I got away with in my relationships. Perhaps the world is more resilient to such human weaknesses that you think. Although don’t try to push it consciously that definitely fucks shit up.

>> No.10239874

>>10239861
I was saying that what i wrote on >>10239846
Was dismissive bullshit and it deserved the harsh criticism here >>10239831
.

>> No.10239875

I feel more solidarity with strangers on /lit/ than I do with my friends irl. They all have gfs.
I wonder if that's sadder than being alone

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>>10237751
>believing that dostoyevsky is a book
>being this edgy

>> No.10239883

>>10239874
I'm the Beloved poster. Leave me out of your teenage bullshit. I was speaking to a single honest post. I don't care about your issues, just that single person's isolation.

>> No.10239884

>>10239822
Sorry I meant this was my dismissive bullshit not your posts.
>>10239874

>> No.10239890

>>10239884
You really need to figure out how the convention of replying works here because you're just making it harder and harder to follow.

>> No.10239921

Women are all fucking cunts, get over yourselves losers.

>> No.10239926

How to please men sexually,
The torture garden,
The story of the eye,
The story of O,
Chakras and fellatio
The kamasutra.

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>tfw no qt jewish /lit/mu/ gf

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>>10239935
>tfw when cute /lit/mu/ shiska gf

>> No.10239953

>>10238784
Although the book is good, I have to recommend seeing the film instead; it's much better in my humble opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjugAYweYNQ

Dialogue is:
>"Can you put out your cigarette, please?"
>
>"I've got an appointment with a psychiatrist".

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>>10239942
tfw qt jewish /lit/mu/ bf

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10239965

I read "Whatever", the watched the film with my ex. She said I was Raphaël.

>> No.10239969

>>10239965
BTFO

>> No.10240067

>>10238766
First thing to make me cry since my dog died five years ago

>> No.10240076

>>10237730
I've never had sex. AMA

>> No.10240078

Margaret Atwood

>> No.10240080

>>10239298
Get a dog. Mine weight ca. 20 kg and when you're reading on the sofa/bed and she just sleep near you it's comfy af.
Also it's nice to have a loving and loyal creature always happy to see you.

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>>10238766

>> No.10240122

>>10239875
Half of the time I don't even have to post anything because some anon already did it for me.
It's nice in a sad way.

>> No.10240135

>>10240076
take your ticket, it's a long waiting list

>> No.10240137

>>10237730
twitter, she isn't brilliant, regardless, i love her

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I really would like to have a gf to share books, talks about lit.
I hate this kind of thread.

>> No.10240146

>>10238980
Update on this, just broke up with that daft cunt

>> No.10240147

>>10240137

/thread

>> No.10240155

>>10237730
She pretty much exclusively reads the works of L Ron Hubbard, as do I.

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Philosophy,Latin,ancient Greek texts.Her favorite book is The Picture of Dorian Gray.Her birthday is approaching,what book would be appropriate to buy for her??

>> No.10240186

>>10240174
50 shades of grey

>> No.10240193

>>10237730
> Visibly upset Wojack.jpeg

> Tfw no gf.
> Made friends with books to drive away the infinite loneliness.

>> No.10240199

>>10240146
life comes at you fast

>> No.10240200

>>10237761
I hope she gets a terrible paper cut and bleeds to death or gets infected with HIV and lives.

>> No.10240207

>>10239379
Shakespeare would agree.

t. Romeo and Juliet

>> No.10240226

>>10240199
Nevermind just got back together

>> No.10240258

>>10240226
t. not me

>> No.10240330

>>10239347
I wrote a long post explaining teenage love but i delete it. Anyways, yes, you're a r9k frog. Teenage love is great at the start but then it slowly becomes boring and you realize you were getting memed by your hormones all along and it inevitably ends up badly. Adult love is better exactly because you're fully immersed in real life.

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DELET THIS THREAD

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>>10240080
this is the best advice

>> No.10240403

>>10238304
True. Porn addiction along with smoking weed pretty much daily for 7 years has made me a social retard. I have a white collar career job and friends and shit, but I haven’t had a true best friend or an intimate relationship in so long. Actual intimacy just doesn’t even seem possible to me mentally and physically I’m terrified my dick doesn’t work outside of looking at a computer screen

>> No.10240407

>>10239926
>bullshit

>> No.10240412

>>10240403
he said poon, not porn

>> No.10240422

>>10240403
>I’m terrified my dick doesn’t work outside of looking at a computer screen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqLAwt8T3Ps

>> No.10240445

>>10240330
Teenage love might be shallow, but never getting to experience the excitement of physical lust in the short window you're able to experience it does leave you with a profound sense of having missed out

>> No.10240447

>>10240412
Ah, I’m a moron.
Thanks anyway for reading my semi-annual 4chan confessional

>> No.10240460

>>10237730
she is so insanely good looking, it's not fair

>> No.10240464

>>10238048
Had that, left mine a few weeks ago. No projection in the future, she wanted to keep living in her bubble. I told her I wanted to build something but she had no sense of responsibilities, and didn't want to get engaged into something. We were together for nearly 5 years and still at the teenager relationship state. That's awful because it is actually the purest girl I have met, and the one I have the most respect for.

>> No.10240467

>>10240445
Which, as I said earlier, is just in your head. All you missed out on is knowing you didn't miss out.

>> No.10240477

>>10240467
I'm not that other guy. I do think that someone in that position missed out on something legitimate, especially if they're an older virgin like I am. You're never going to know what it's like to have sex with someone in their physical prime, or be in a relationship with a woman who isn't just looking for a long-term partner to catch her while she's falling. It's profoundly alienating.

>> No.10240478

My hand doesn know how to read
Weird topic

>> No.10240492

>>10237730
And why do you choose HER?! why not some ugly girl?

>> No.10240496

>>10240464
>purity
No wonder she was childish (you are too)

>> No.10240504

>>10240477
>I do think that someone in that position missed out on something legitimate
And you're wrong. If you didn't put so much credence in it as important then you'd be just as happy (or unhappy) as the next normie.
If it's just about sex with someone in their prime there's nothing to stop you hiring an 18 year old escort, incidentally.

>> No.10240514

>>10240504
It goes without saying that it's not really about sex, it's the state of being in a teenage relationship, when literally all that matters is the other person. I saw friends of mine experience that in high school, but I never did. I do get a melancholic glimpse of it when read I read stuff like Romeo and Juliet, but i'll never actually know what it's like. And it's easy to dismiss the anguish that causes as silly romanticizing, but you don't know how it feels unless you've experienced it yourself.

>> No.10240515

>>10238048
>>10238057
>>10238078
>thinks women are more childish overall because they tend to like disney films
>meanwhile there are heaps of man babies who get into fist fights because of stupid ball games, and enjoy action movies that are just as idiotic as disney etc.
You guys never fail to amaze me with your small minded hypocrisy kek

>> No.10240517

>>10240122
How come I can feel so connected with anons on a anon forum but hate everyone I meet irl ? Everybody seems uninteresting, has no story to tell, or no subject to discuss. I feel like I have met all the type of people possible, and every new person I meet is just a linear combination of the later. Where can I find friends ? Where should I go ? Is there a place with people like me ? Are you all just in my head ?

>> No.10240528

>>10240496
I am a monster compared to her, she sees the good everywhere, assume the best every time. I hate everyone and am pessimistic. She was faithful and caring.

>> No.10240536

>>10240517
because we're all either basement dwellers or we've learned the hard way to hide the poignancy of our self-awareness behind a stoic smile that makes us barely distinguishable from the herd

>> No.10240537

>>10240514
I'm not dismissing the anguish as silly romanticising, I'm saying it's silly romanticising that causes the anguish. It's real pain but it's pain you can end by realising the causes of it are spooks, sold to you by unrealistic romances in various media. And you have to force yourself to realise that, because part of you likes being a martyr and hates to let go of that.

>> No.10240541

>>10237791
>>10238823
Nice.

>> No.10240544

>>10238746
Sex is overrated anyways mate - and there is nothing wrong with not having had it, so don't feel ashamed. I haven't scored enough puss to actually know how i did it so i cannot guide you on that, but my guide to kissing a girl easily so you can get past lip virginity:

>Drink with cute girl
>Get drunk both of you
>Lean closer while you talk with her
>When you are quite close let her lean closer
>Take it slow and keep the conversation running
>At some point your lips collide and you kiss her

I'm an autist so i know the problems with eye contact and stuff, but do your best - look at eyes, lips, face repeat slowly and relaxed. That's my guide.

It will work if she has an interest in you - create an interest by being hot. Be hot by wearing some clothes that suit you, getting your hair and beard in order, not smelling and having another interest than video games only.

>> No.10240549

>>10240544
it doesn't work if you're a 5'7'' midget though

>> No.10240555

>>10240537
You can convince someone that what they value in actuality isn't worth caring about, but you can't convince someone that loneliness and alienation is a spook. The pain goes beyond simply having bad ideas.

>> No.10240561

>>10240544
>>10240549
>tfw 5'6"
>tfw I don’t take up enough vertical space to know what being loved feels like
Is there anything crueler than the arbitrariness of nature?

>> No.10240565

>>10240549
It's not that bad mate - you just need a good posture and tilt your head a little back when you talk to people and nobody will realize.

>> No.10240573

>>10240565
>chad actually believes this is good advice

>> No.10240574

>>10240565
>>10240549

I know a guy who's your height and i've realized he does that and he's a fucking alpha - i sometimes realize how taller i am than him and i'm awed.

>> No.10240577

>>10240561
>>10240565
i've never seen any male specimen shorter than 5'7'' with a gf. i suspect that all the midgets are BTFO'd by nature to a state of eternal tfw no gf

>> No.10240579

>>10240573
>sex isn't important
>manlets get laid all the time
>all you have to do is shower and have a hobby
Chads live in a different universe anon. It's not worth it

>> No.10240583

>>10240577
I wonder what the feminists who complain about beauty standards and fat-shaming have to say about that.

>> No.10240585

>>10240496
I see this attitude a lot when discussing sex with normies in general. It's like the classic ideal of female virtuosity is shameful and needs purging. I understand that times have changed considerably but it seems to have been the standard for a very long time. I have yet to see the argument that this new free love model is really better than what came before. Furthermore just because an ideal is hard to attain it doesn't mean you should kill it.
>>10240504
Well technically the law and perhaps even moral fiber would stop him.
>>10240517
I think part of it is that in here you meet people as they truly are not just a persona that's constrained by fear of rejection and social norms.
>>10240467
I like your strong position. But let me posit that understanding the banality of youthful love is like trying to understand love itself through reading alone. It's obvious to the experienced observer that it is a banal endeavor but the rest of us are left to fill the void with unreachable ideals. You can't really understand it's details and faults without experiencing and without it you are, in a sense, incomplete. It doesn't seem to me that the pain of so many anons is just in our heads. There is something real here.

>> No.10240587

>>10240579
elliot rodger really did nothing wrong

>> No.10240590

>>10240583
> there's not such a thing as reverse sexism, anon

>> No.10240591

>>10240587
When you're mad at nature it's best just to take it out on yourself. Taking it out on other people is cruel, and cruelty can never be ethically justified

>> No.10240605

>>10240537
So your claim is that we are romanticizing an impossible kind of love and this unhealthy attachment causes pain. I understand it's unhealthy and letting go is the right thing to do. However, at least for me, the pain came from ready Dostoevsky and I don't think he is trying to sell me some ideal of love. Would you say the same thing about Shakespeare? Perhaps it's something more akin to a natural state of the human condition.

>> No.10240607

>>10240577
I've considered suicide over it, but I think i'm just gonna hoard money my entire life and move to a third world country where prostitution is legal. Affection can be bought for fairly cheap if you know where to look.

>> No.10240608

>>10240591
sure thing bud, so not only midget incels should suffer the angst of being alienated from the sexual market, but they don't even have the right to organize an uprising. at least the working class can claim back the means of production, incels are not even allowed to have this right

>> No.10240617

>>10240565
>>10240579
Manlet here, you guys are fucking autistic. Frame is far more important than height, unless you are literally like below 5 feet, you can improve you frame and presence to the average at the very least through confidence, lifting, posture, etc.

>> No.10240618

>>10240579
Maybe i live in another world i will admit, but it's the best advice i can come up with. Some years ago i where a autistic virgin playing video games all day with an actual fedora on my head, not that sex did anything to change that - it was other factors that did that.

>> No.10240625

>>10240605
I think it's natural for people to romanticise love in an unrealistic way because it makes their loves feel more special. It's not so much that they want to sell you the idea as the idea sells (makes popular) the media it's in. People *want* to believe in the transcendent, people *want* to believe their partner is the Fated One For Them, but if you have half a brain you know that's just biology and you can help yourself by being strong about it and not giving in to silly ideals.

>> No.10240630

>>10240608
When you're lonely what you want is empathy. How is hurting people going to make them acknowledge your pain?

>> No.10240632

>>10240617
That was what i've been trying to say.

>> No.10240636

my gf is illiterate, and she only eats chicken nuggest from mcd

>> No.10240639

>>10240636
Gf goals

>> No.10240641

>>10240617
How tall are you?

>> No.10240642

>>10240625
Thanks anon I see that is true manly strength right there. Facing the criminal apathy of biology and the world through strength of character. Making the best of it without falling prey to false gods. Truly enlightening.

>> No.10240647

>>10238048
Girl I'm seeing is a bit like this and it's worrying me. She seems very superficially non-chalant about things that should get a rise or stimulate some thought in most people. Like she doesn't preceive things beyond what they appear to be at a most basic level. This makes me wonder whether any real connection can even be had with her, I fear this relationship would have a feel of utilitarian mentorship. I fear most relationships between men and women are like that. Men provide utility and knowledge, women provide pussy and neither gets to really know eachother as they are.

>> No.10240648

>>10240636
Ehhhscute

>> No.10240654

>>10240630
when you're hurt enough the only brotherhood that you still seek is the one you find down the gutter

>> No.10240660

>>10238048
>Read some Rousseau and try to see the virtue in this as well
>Realize you have become pedophile
>Cry

>> No.10240661

>>10240639
>>10240648
why do people want this kind of gf? she's boring and crazy fragile and i'm terrified of getting her pregnant, then ive got two useless people i need to provide for

>> No.10240662

>>10240647
On the same vein as this guy
>>10240625
If you marry the girl and you are both truly committed to each other you should really get to know them. And then you will realize it's not that great and probably a lot of work. It's a false god anon. Don't project your ideals on your girlfriend it never ends well.

>> No.10240663

>>10239751
special flakes like you belong to a cross

>> No.10240666

>>10240641
5'5''

>>10240632
Yes, all that matters is the presence and the way you carry yourself. Yes it's easier for tall people to have a bigger presence, but manlets can do it too if they put in the work, and they can easily supersede the average if they put the effort in. Height is only a single component of the presence you exude, there are tons of other factors.

>> No.10240670

>>10240661
>>10240639

#irony

>> No.10240673

>>10238766
This is the kind of fantasy depression you have until you have to start earning money and enter the real world. If a woman is your #1 problem you are privileged.

>> No.10240675

>>10240607
but it will never be affection, you will never experience the tender feeling of being desidered, no woman will ever mistake her sexual attraction for your physical features as a genuine admiration for your personality. sure, they could still come to appreciate your personality and intellect, but that's about it, it's the biological deadlock for a midget, it will always be the kind of commendation that doesn't translate itself into lust and then a state of daydreaming about a monogamous relationship with you

>> No.10240682

>>10240654
Self-loathing is cheap and easy. Rising above it and creating something that lets people see and acknowledge your pain can become a reason for living in itself.

>> No.10240686

>>10240666
> Yes, all that matters is the presence and the way you carry yourself. Yes it's easier for tall people to have a bigger presence, but manlets can do it too if they put in the work, and they can easily supersede the average if they put the effort in. Height is only a single component of the presence you exude, there are tons of other factors.
you truly are deceitful like Woland

>> No.10240692

>>10240577
KYS have you been on a university campus? I saw two short couples today alone, and one guy getting a taller girl's number. You mongols live in an alternative reality, you fucking waste away on 4chan all day and think that the only reason you are unloved is because of your height, jesus fucking christ maybe it's the fact that you have no job, no education, no dreams, you are insecure, put zero effort into your appearance, etc. KYS

>> No.10240693

>>10240675
If you are actually nice and follow my step by step plan >>10240544 you will find someone at some point look at >>10240666 btw. Hating yourself makes it harder - do something that you are proud of and you will like yourself more.

>> No.10240699

>>10240675
Whether or not you're right about lust being inaccessible to me, affection and lust aren't synonymous. You can feel platonic affection for your friend. And that, along with the respect that money confers, can be a decent enough replacement. It's better than bearing it by being completely alone.

>> No.10240701

>>10240693 to this i would add what this guy wrote >>10240692

>> No.10240704

>>10240673
Clocking in and out of work is easy you NEET

>> No.10240712

>>10240692
>>10240699
you must be a manlet who still has not come to terms with his unfortunate aesthetic. jokes on you, i actually made a shitload of money off bitcoin, but i'm still a virgin midget. there's no hope

>> No.10240714

>>10240704
>I am the biggest victim!
>NO i am!
Get your shit together anons

>> No.10240717

>>10240712
Why can't you just order a prostitute? Or move to a third world country where everyone is short?

>> No.10240719

>>10240712
Bitcoins doesn't make you hotter mate

>> No.10240721

>>10237730
I throat fuck her too much to let her read.

>> No.10240724

>>10240712
> jokes on you
>but i'm still a virgin midget. there's no hope

>> No.10240726

>>10240712
self loathing manlets are literally the worst, I can't think of anything less appealing to a woman. If manletism was a death sentence, it would have been bred out of the genetic pool long ago, but fucking christ it's not and your ancestors made it so far, you're a fucking bitch if you give up now.

>> No.10240731

>>10240675
One of my best friends is a manlet and he gets a lot of puss. He has a good face tho, and a very good personality.

>> No.10240736

>>10240717
third-world girls look like shit. i want either an aryan qt or south korean kpop goddess, otherwise it's not worth it. and i'm not sold on the idea of losing my virginity with an hooker because I'm not just after the physical act of fucking, i long for something deeper - which is both genuine lust and tender monogamous affection- that my height and appearance prevent me to obtain

>> No.10240750

>>10240726
It's about relative height. My dad bred because he immigrated (along with my mom) from a short country at a time when the average height was lower. Part of the reason people are getting taller is because short men are being bred out of the gene pool through sexual selection.

>> No.10240751

>>10240736
> that my height and appearance prevent me to obtain
I think this thought is more in your way than the actual fact that you are small

>> No.10240754

>>10240736
It appears to me anon that you are using your high standards as an excuse to take action. Take what you can get and improve from there. Seriously, dating is a skill in of itself that needs practice to reach mastery. If you want to get your aryan qt or kpop goddess you need to start practicing now and you've got a lot ground to catch up. Chads and such have been practicing since they hit puberty. What have you been doing?

>> No.10240763

I know a guy who has a brain damage and is unable to talk but still has a girlfriend because he's a fucking cool person - never give up anon

>> No.10240765

Anna Karenina.

>> No.10240768

>>10240763
He's probably 6'1"

>> No.10240769

>>10240750
>It's about relative height. My dad bred because he immigrated (along with my mom) from a short country at a time when the average height was lower. Part of the reason people are getting taller is because short men are being bred out of the gene pool through sexual selection.
Incredible levels of delusion and blaming others and the world for your problems. You're the male equivalent of a feminist

>> No.10240774

>>10240769
Can you be more specific? I'm not blaming other people for my problems, my problems are inherent to nature. For many mammals that smallest males get the fewest mating opportunities.

>> No.10240780

>>10240768
He's about 179 cm - but i would still say that it's worse than being 170 and able to talk.

>> No.10240783

>>10240780
How can someone who doesn't talk be considered a "cool guy"?

>> No.10240784

>>10238273
I'm jealous.

>> No.10240787

>>10240783
Because he's that cool of a guy

>> No.10240788

>>10240736
Anon, speaking as an actual gril, height is not that important to most of us. I doubt I would ever be attracted to a guy who is shorter than me, but I'm 5'4, so anything over that I would accept. 5'6 is fine, really. Then, there are of course loads of women who are much shorter than that and who feel similarily. What I'm trying to say is get your body in shape, make sure to take care of your skin, dress well, hygiene, etc., and your appearance should not be any problem.

>> No.10240795

>>10240754
it's a bit like saying that I'm not in the NBA because I've not practiced enough. sure, i'd be a better basketball player if instead of studying math in my teen years i had invested my afternoons slam-dunking, but I'd still be no match for the chads and all I'd have left would be 6/10 girls or worse.

>>10240783
it means that he's good-looking

>> No.10240796

>>10240774
Again, you continue constructing your delusion by cherrypicking facts here and there that fit your narrative. I'm not saying being taller isn't a benefit, but with the amount of opportunities to fuck you get in the contemporary age it's almost irrelevant

>> No.10240797

>>10240788
>height is not that important to most of us.
>I doubt I would ever be attracted to a guy who is shorter than me
They're not even a single sentence apart. Jesus.

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>>10240788
That's another thing - just go for the small girls

>> No.10240808

>>10238708
Why must you taunt me this way?

>> No.10240809

>>10240774
It's mostly because your attitude towards your condition is simply weakness. Instead of facing the injustices of life and fighting for what you want you give up and claim victimhood. In a sense you are right but claiming it like you are makes you unmanly and unattractive. True men face the adversities of life and try to make the best of what they have. Don't pray to false ideals that keep you from reaching fulfillment. The way man doesn't face nature by claiming itself a victim and begging for empathy. Anything else is viscerally disgusting and it should be.

>> No.10240812

>>10240802
No. For whatever reason, really tiny girls are the most into the tallest guys. If you're not tall, go for girls who are just a bit shorter than you.

>> No.10240818

>>10240812
>go for girls who are just a bit shorter than you.
yeah, small girls

>> No.10240821

>>10240802
This>>10240812
Girls select for height relative to other guys, not themselves. The smallest girls are usually the most insistent on dating tall guys, probably because short guys are more likely to ask them out over other girls

>> No.10240824

>>10240797
Surely you understood what I meant. What is important to women is that the man is taller than them. Some instinct thing of wanting to be protected probably, I don't know. However, as long as the guy is taller it generally does not really matter if it's by 5 or 30 centimeters.

>> No.10240829

>>10240812
but if we're midgets and we're supposed to go after girls who are shorter than us, then the only remaining demographics are tiny girls, but as you've said yourself tiny girls are into the tallest guys. see? there's no hope for midgets.

>> No.10240837

>>10240824
the thing, most women wear high-heels so you have to be at least 14cm taller than them to be in a relationship

>> No.10240838

>>10240824
But that's completely inconsistent with the notion that height doesn't matter to most girls, which is what you said. It means that height matters to the point where it can be the sole factor that keeps you from dating someone. And if you're below the average height of women in your country, that means that it's already impossible for you to date most women.

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>>10240829
There's always smaller

>> No.10240849

>>10240842
they're into taller guys too. it's over, there's no hope

>> No.10240856

>>10240795
>that I'm not in the NBA
Really anon? Really? Comparing fucking and having a relationship to the NBA? Seriously? You are seriously deluding yourself. Look dude every single one of your ancestors reproduced successfully. Every single one. You are their descendant, flesh of their flesh. The ability to reproduce is innate in you that's just the way it is.
>all I'd have left would be 6/10 girls or worse
And the truth is you don't know until you try. If you stopped whining and actually tried you'd be surprised at how much you can get. I get it you're scared of failing who the fuck isn't. Worse, what you get probably won't be your unrealistic ideal but if you go through the journey of life and actually try to learn you'll be in a far better place than you are now. At the very least you will be able to live with your sorry ass instead of whining to yourself about what could have been if life was fair.
Btw I hope I don't come of condescending but in reality I am trying to tell myself these things as much as you anon. We are not so different you and I.

>> No.10240857

>be physically bullied for being the smallest kid in my class during elementary school
>be teased for being the smallest kid in my class in Jr. High
>couldn't get any dates in high school for being smaller than a lot of the girls
>couldn't get dates in college for the same reason
>statistically less likely to be hired or receive promotions due to my height
Does it ever get better? Is this what racism feels like?

>> No.10240860

>>10240838
Yeah alright, bad phrasing. Height does not matter to most girls as long as they can be the shortest person in the relationship is what I intended. I agree that being below the average female height would probably suck, and I feel sorry for the guys who are in that situation. The anon I replied to is definitely not though, average female height is usually around 5'4 at most.

>>10240837
Do you want to date a whore? Few regular girls feel the need to walk around in 10cm heels.

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>>10240849
THERE'S ALWAYS SMALLER!!!!

>> No.10240867

>>10240857
Yes that's what racism feels like, except minus the exoticism factor. No one will ever think your differentness is cool or contrarian. Short people are just shadows of real people. (Except Peter dinklage and Kant)

>> No.10240868

>>10240860
Average girl is 5'7" where I live. I see middle school girls my height. It does suck, and it annoys me to no fucking end that the same women who complain about "muh beauty standards" when it comes to their weight apply just as rigid a standard to male height, which, unlike weight, can't be changed. But somehow their sexual preference is biological, while our sexual preferences are "socially constructed."

>> No.10240880

>>10240867
*short men
This doesn't really apply to women

>> No.10240881

Damn you people are pathetic.
This went from a tfw no gf thread to a tfw manlet one and I don't know which is worse.

>> No.10240890

>>10240867
this. no hollywood movie will ever be made to eroticize the heroes of the oppressed midgets

>> No.10240892

>>10240881
I'm both relatively tall and have a girlfriend who reads more than I do so I'm feeling very alienated in this thread

>> No.10240901

>>10240892
Good for you, anon. What kind of stuff does she read?

>> No.10240904

>>10240881
>people in bad spots shouldn't be allowed to complain

>> No.10240915

>>10240904
You're in /lit/, you should be focusing on achieving immortality not chasing pussy.

>> No.10240919

>>10240868
Must be the netherlands right? Move to any other european country and it won't be as bad.

>> No.10240925

>>10240919
I live in a part of the US that's full of old Dutch and Swedish immigrants. I could give up my friends and move state, but the younger generation is very tall. I'd have to move to a poor hispanic community to see a good portion of girls shorter than I am. I can't do that without giving up my job either. So i'm sort of stuck.

>> No.10240928

>>10240915
>only people who think they have the talent to be world-famous authors should be posting on /lit/

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10240986

I wonder if young men are lonelier this generation than they were before. It feels like it, but I hang out on 4chan and my irl friendgroup is also tfw no gf

>> No.10240994

>>10237730
>implying

>> No.10240995

>>10240986
Yes. Less socialization due to growing up with technology, and harder for guys at the bottom to date because dating apps give women more options. Life is a complete nightmare for a lot of male millennials.

>> No.10241046

>>10238092
>educators are children
I have no idea who this man is but anyone that thinks that only child like people can educate has obviously never had any experience doing it themselves.

>> No.10241049

>>10238191
iktf

>> No.10241051

>>10241046
>I have no idea who this man is
Then why are you here? That's one of the most important philosophers in the Western tradition.

>> No.10241336

>>10240995
What will come of it?

>> No.10241383

>>10241336
More alienation, more mass shootings, more political polarization.

>> No.10241445

>>10241383
I guess the end game is simply too difficult to forecast, with the speed things move these days.

>> No.10241499

>>10241445
Well the endgame is Western decline. I don't know how anyone can look at the current state of the world and not think that the East is the future.

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>>10241499
I guess you're right.
What a time to be alive

>> No.10241693

>>10241521
Learn Mandarin, my man

>> No.10241960

>>10241046
Schoppy would mind rape you kiddo

>> No.10242156

>>10238116
anon who posted the original,come on and post some more

>> No.10242525

>>10241499
I think it's more like the east and west are getting equal in power - right after the second world war america had almost all the power in the world, since it has been declining because other countries got power back.

>> No.10242578

>>10240867
People think dwarves are pretty cool

>> No.10242612

>People complaining about not getting girls because of their height.

It's your insecure personality stupid.

>> No.10242683

>>10242612
agreed. I'm 5'2" and I have gotten an average amount of vaginal sex, maybe a little more or a little less. I don't know I am not everyone else and do not keep tabs on their sexual activity.
The point is height isn't that big of a factor in getting laid. Stop victimizing yourself and making excuses for your inability to have redeeming qualities.