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Anonymous Fri Oct 27 17:11:20 2017 No.10197986 [Reply] [Original]

What are some examples of Man vs. Reality?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 17:13:19 2017 No.10197997 >>10197986 Nausea by Jean Paul Sartre. The Stranger by Albret Camus. Exsitentialism in general tbqh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 20:00:05 2017 No.10198450 >>10197986 Ubik by PKD

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 20:07:22 2017 No.10198467 >>10197997 That sounds more like Man vs No Hod to me tbqhwydesu

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 20:14:31 2017 No.10198488 My diary desu

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 20:17:28 2017 No.10198493 Laurie Penny is an established author within the woman vs. reality subgenre

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 20:21:33 2017 No.10198504 >>10197986 blade runner/electric sheep >>10198467 I can see why you don't like his examples, but I don't think your sorting of them is much better. For example, Meursault's an atheist from square one and probably doesn't really care either way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 20:23:03 2017 No.10198506 >>10198450 Best PKD desu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 20:24:05 2017 No.10198511 >>10197986 The City and the City by China Mieville.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 20:29:23 2017 No.10198524 >>10197997 The stranger is more about man vs. society, wtf does reality have to do with the stranger?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 20:32:38 2017 No.10198532 File: 418 KB, 1647x2424, steppenwolf-001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Steppenwolf, wouldn't recommend it though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 20:34:52 2017 No.10198538 Synecdoche, New York

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 20:36:45 2017 No.10198540 Don Quixote

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 20:43:01 2017 No.10198551 >>10198540 Don Quixote can fit most or all of the the ones after "classical" depending on your interpretation, except maybe man vs technology, and even that is touched upon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 21:32:10 2017 No.10198683 Shouldn't vs reality be "all the above" Also, this >>10198540

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 22:00:03 2017 No.10198731 Man vs reality Seems a bit too close to man vs society, PoMos often cite that the "majority" have a monopoly on reality. Maybe a better way to put it would be man vs conflict?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 22:01:31 2017 No.10198735 The trial Lovecraft? Ulysses Finnegans wake Myth of Sisyphus

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 22:01:57 2017 No.10198736 neuromancer

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 22:13:38 2017 No.10198772 The Republican Party.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 22:18:29 2017 No.10198790 The heros journey The I ching

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 22:22:05 2017 No.10198800 >>10198731 what do you mean "conflict?

Anonymous Fri Oct 27 22:36:02 2017 No.10198835

>>10198800
Unless you want to read math and science papers proving the validity of quatum theory or parallel worlds theory, then my understanding that in a story/narrative conflict is what shapes its reality/universe.
When a character questions the nature of reality he is really questioning conflict.
Go on some world building threads in /tg/ to understand.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 22:52:59 2017 No.10198881 >>10198835 maybe you can say a conflict with reality because it contains fiction in itself. is he questioning the conflict itself or experiencing the conflict?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 02:22:16 2017 No.10199316 >>10197986 (((reality)))

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 02:24:32 2017 No.10199323 File: 1.14 MB, 273x322, stirnerspooked.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10197986

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 02:35:31 2017 No.10199346 parodies, satires, surreal works, computer editing images, conspiracy theories

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 05:28:44 2017 No.10199635 >>10198493 Kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 05:38:58 2017 No.10199652 >>10197986 The Iceberg Hermit great book no one has ever read

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 05:55:26 2017 No.10199671 File: 225 KB, 629x480, Getting real tired of your shit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Child vs Reality

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 08:34:14 2017 No.10199943 What Happened: Hillary Rodham Clinton

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 08:53:04 2017 No.10199989 >>10197986 The crying of lot 49

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 09:42:56 2017 No.10200068 >>10198735 How is the trial not man vs society? The whole book is a metaphor for social anxiety

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 09:45:39 2017 No.10200076 my dream diary desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 09:46:53 2017 No.10200078 >>10200068 top kek, whut? The Trial is about human condition, totalitarianism, and law.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 09:47:26 2017 No.10200081 >>10197986 Does Valis count?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 09:48:33 2017 No.10200084 >>10200078 Are you literally retarded?

Anonymous Sat Oct 28 09:57:17 2017 No.10200101

>>10198881
the conflict is him questioning the nature of reality.

not like there's many books about destroying reality because it is out to get you.
>>10200068
>>10200078
you could also understand it about how reality seems to be punishing you for reasons far beyond than what you know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 10:15:29 2017 No.10200142 Inception's script

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 10:54:00 2017 No.10200239 File: 23 KB, 264x400, 14743.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10197986

Anonymous Sat Oct 28 13:37:20 2017 No.10200653

>>10198524
The opening line suggests that, man. "Maman died today. Or yesterday maybe, I don't know." Your mother's death, arguably the closest relationship for many people, is usually a very remarkable event for most people. That he's unable to identify if it was today or yesterday suggests that he is not struggling with a simple memory problem; instead he's struggling with a perception problem. Reality is structured by days for the average person; this structure has evaporated for Meursault. He has no desire to abide by these "conventions of reality" anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 13:40:31 2017 No.10200658 >>10197986 The Third Policeman

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 14:13:11 2017 No.10200759 >>10200653 >That he's unable to identify if it was today or yesterday Is it me, or is this very common claim plain wrong? IIRC he doesn't know simply because he got a telegram and it doesn't say exactly when the death happened.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 17:54:59 2017 No.10201411 What are some good examples of Man vs Author?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 18:00:14 2017 No.10201429 >>10201411 https://youtu.be/npTC6b5-yvM

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 18:01:46 2017 No.10201431 File: 16 KB, 282x179, gauld.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10201411 Shit illustrators ripping off Tom Gauld's style.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 18:02:47 2017 No.10201436 Any religious text tips fedora

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 18:12:57 2017 No.10201465 >>10198524 The Stranger is man vs everything tbqh. But the Sun stuff should be the clearest man vs reality.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 18:14:08 2017 No.10201471 >>10200239 That's more 'first person man against basic logic' tbqh.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 01:03:09 2017 No.10202586 some of the Viriconium stories by M. John Harrison. vast majority of stuff by Thomas Ligotti

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 04:28:57 2017 No.10203033 >>10197986 man vs technology is arguably modern

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 10:02:23 2017 No.10203658 >>10201411 the new york trilogy

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 10:05:33 2017 No.10203665 >>10201411 At Swim-Two-Birds An absolutely amazing book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 12:46:49 2017 No.10204193 >>10197986 Lol every book

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 12:49:27 2017 No.10204203 >>10198506 >ubik >best i know it's awesome, but what about Three stigmata of Palmer Eldritch ??

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 12:55:06 2017 No.10204231 >>10198524 >The stranger is more about man vs. society mega brainlet alert

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 12:58:09 2017 No.10204244 >>10203033 Man vs Technology is definitely modern, considering that modernism was born of the anxieties and novelties of the modern industrial age. Maybe man vs internet is a better post-modern take on technology.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 13:02:03 2017 No.10204261 File: 91 KB, 1280x720, 1488570830408.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10198524 Holy shit! I didn't know people operated on such a low level. Do you think the Trial is about how tedious the legal process is?

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