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10165465 No.10165465 [Reply] [Original]

>dude, culture isn't real, language isn't real, your desires aren't real, capitalism and institutions are evil and life is meaningless anyways xD

>> No.10165468

Derrida was jewish, not French.

>> No.10165474

Too hid yet commercialized at the same time.

>> No.10165478

>>10165465
babby brainlet is afraid of the destruction of his spooks

>> No.10165493

>>10165468
ethnicity doesn't matter, he was still strongly rooted in french philosophy (structuralism)

>> No.10165504

Continental philosophy seems to produce a lot of rapey sex criminals. Sam Kriss being the latest one.

>> No.10165507

>>10165493
What? Of course it matters. Jews think very differently than Europeans.

>> No.10165514

>>10165507
derridas work is but a continuation of levi-strauss' work on structuralism

to pol you go, brainlet

>> No.10165532

>>10165465
>pretentious
Whenever I hear/read this word as an argument against something, I automatically discount the person.

>> No.10165534

>>10165465
Well, they had to make a living somehow.

>> No.10165540

>>10165532
it is pretentious. the writing of lacan, derrida, baudrillard, to name only few offenders, is unnecessarily overblown, complex and verbose.

>> No.10165541

>who is Etienne Gilson
>who is Pierre Boutang
>who is Michel Henry
>who is Philippe Nemo
>who is Rémi Brague
>who is Gustave Thibon
>who is Pierre Magnard
>who is Maurice Clavel
>who is Louis Jugnet
>who is Roland Dalbiez
>who is Gabriel Marcel

If you only know the shit side of French contemporary philosophy please shut up.

>> No.10165543

>>10165514
He is a jew too you dip

>> No.10165544

>>10165514
Strauss was also a jew. See, how can you expect to understand these ideas when you don't understand the people who present them?

>> No.10165554

>>10165544
>>10165543
fine, ferdinand de saussure was white, barthes was white, foucault was white

>> No.10165567

>>10165554
Barthes was a disgusting pederast and Foucault was a degenerate HIV positive fag sadomasochist.

>> No.10165572

>>10165567
so?

>> No.10165582

to trigger brainlets

>> No.10165600

>>10165554
Again, you don't understand the dynamic here. Stop thinking about ideas as abstract transfers between different peoples with equal capabilities and take a page from Foucault and understand them as things prone to manipulation by power entities, the main one here being jews. These non-jews are cogs advancing jewish interests.

>> No.10165603

>>10165567
>his arguments hold less weighs cos I'm appealing to 4chan's scuffed morality and implicit circle jerk
nice meme

>> No.10165640

>>10165465
There's a YouTube series by a retired professor called "Deleuze for the desperate" in which he tries to explain Deleuze's philosophy and make it more intellegibile. At a certain point he claims that Deleuze wrote his books with that overcomplicated style because his audience were other academics, people who could understand the text. To say it in another way: he literally didn't want brainlets to read him. My theory is that he saw what happened with Nietzsche (Nietzsche is one of his main philosophical influence) and the hordes of pseuds (like OP) misinterpreting his work and he didn't want the same to happen to him. He also probably didn't want to turn down his writing just so more people could understand him. It makes perfect sense if you consider that Nietzsche was also a huge elitist and hated plebs.
Anyway, Focault isn't hard to read nor obscure.

>> No.10165646

>>10165465
>Why is French post-War philosophy so pretentious and pointless?

...smug atheists flailing around in the dark, the blind leading the blind, they have no mouth but they must scream, aids, aids everywhere.

>> No.10165652

>>10165541
>mfw americans constantly blame us for only producing "left wing" leaning philosophers when we have geniuses like Pierre Boutang and they have Molyneux and Milo Rastapopoulos

>> No.10165658

>>10165507
>>>/r/t_D

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>>10165652
Forgot mfw

>> No.10165668

>>10165640
>At a certain point he claims that Deleuze wrote his books with that overcomplicated style because his audience were other academics, people who could understand the text.

but humanities/philosophy academics are brainlets and rarely agree on anything.

>Focault isn't hard to read nor obscure.

Because if he's not making obvious, rehashed points about history and power structures he's making idiotic suggestions like everyone should try homosex as a revolutionary act. Not hard or obscure to understand, but still worthless.

>> No.10165689

>>10165541
I dont know anyone but the first two, who are great, so i say thx for the list anon, ill look into those authors

>> No.10165691

>>10165465
Shit thread OP, you have not read any of them

>> No.10165703

>>10165465
french people are crypto kikes

>> No.10165713

>>10165504
lol. simply being born on this planet seems to do that just fine.

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>>10165572
so my threshold for agreeing with someone's intellectual arguments is my willingness to share a bathtub with them.
that is why pic related is the gold standard of philosophical inquiry.

>> No.10165745

>>10165652
I'm a little upset that none of Charles Maurras' works have been translated into English.

>> No.10165768

>>10165713
your hyperbole is neither funny or accurate tbqh

>> No.10165779

>>10165465
They were right though. Europe is OVER and has been since the conclusion of WWI

>> No.10165785

>>10165779
these thinkers themselves played their part in dissolution of nationalist supremacy thinking

which is probably a good thing

>> No.10165794

>>10165465
Show me your tittays madmaoiselle

>> No.10165797

>>10165640
>To say it in another way: he literally didn't want brainlets to read him.
Avicenna's soul brother.

>> No.10165815

>>10165785
How you could say that's a good thing given the state of France today?

>> No.10165820

>>10165815
france looks like it does today precisely because its nationalism, which led to colonialism. they should've never tried to conquer and assimilate the maghreb.

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>>10165652
>Milo Rastapopoulos
hah !

>>10165745
L'avenir de l'intelligence a été traduit en anglais (The Future of the Intelligentsia)

>> No.10165830

>>10165823
Thank you, anon.

>> No.10165834

>>10165820
You must be retarded or non-white or both. High IQ first world people building infrastructure and extracting resources from places with people who are functionally incapable of doing so themselves is not the same as squatting as a welfare recipient.

>> No.10165840

>>10165834
colonialism ultimately created the ties between the maghreb and continental france, which would lead to mutual immigration.

>> No.10165863

>>10165840
those ties only explain to what country they want to migrate, not why they wanted or felt themselves in the right of mass migrating in the first place

>> No.10165865

>>10165465
Derrida is pure fucking evil.

>> No.10165883

while i wouldn't call myself an expert on post-war french philosophy (my field of study is mostly confined to German philosophy, pre- and post-war), i do know a little bit, especially as regards Foucault.

what i've read of french philosophy has taught me that they are definitely pretentious, but that fact in itself is not enough to discount the content of the philosophy that is propounded in their work. the attempts to undo the debasement and domination of the heretofore tradition are viewed as necessities, and one way to accomplish that feat is to fight against the established notions of language and argumentative strategy. if your only gripe with the french philosophers is the way they speak, you're arguing from very fragile ground and, i would argue, you're displaying a rather pathetic adherence to a tradition which has proved detrimental to authentic existence.

all of these french philosophers are indebted to nietzsche and heidegger, both as positive influences, and strong argumentative pillars which one should attempt to chip away at, if one is to establish oneself as a force to be reckoned with in the philosophical world. many of them, as well, are fighting against the sartrean epidemic which poisoned a lot of philosophical thought, as his system is based on an amphetamine-fuelled misreading of heidegger.

tl;dr: don't bash content based on form or you've struck fool's gold

>> No.10165884

>>10165840
Nothing is mutual in this relationship. You're comparing a high IQ, high functioning group of Europeans and a low IQ, low functioning group of semites.

>> No.10165888

>>10165884
>>10165834
>using IQ as a benchmark for intelligence
spot the plebbit/r/t_d user

>> No.10165893

>>10165863
they do explain acceptance for maghrebian immigrants. the franco-algerian war divided the maghreb into supporters of france and arab nationalists. the former were the ones who were invited to france.

>> No.10165903

>>10165888
IQ, especially national mean IQ, is the best measure of not just intelligence, but of ability to achieve as well. Not even a debate on it.

>> No.10165913

>>10165903
going by national mean iq, italy should be wealthier and more successful in scientific departaments than germany.

clearly not the case.

>> No.10165919

>>10165913
Take a statistics course you disgustingly statistical ignoramus.

>> No.10165921

>>10165913
Really? Italy has a north-south racial split, with the northern, more Germanic states being far more productive. Do you have any idea what you're talking about here?

>> No.10165923

>>10165465

French philosophy has awful form and meaningful content. You gotta look for them golden nuggets of Heidegger below all the shit. You can find a lot of necessary criticisms on the establishment in Baudrillard for example, notably if you care about the influence of ads and consumerism, but it sounds so desperately pretentious that sometimes you just want to put it down. Even then, there is content to be acquired there.

>> No.10165925

>>10165921
certainly, i do.

northern italy still doesn't hold a candle to most of germany. in germany, the south is the more successful region, despite having more immigrants and less "germanic" genes.

>> No.10165928

>>10165903
>Not even a debate on it

>medicaldaily.com/iq-test-accurate-way-measure-intelligence-or-are-mental-abilities-something-you-cant-put-297244
>sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896627312005843
>webmd.com/brain/news/20121218/iq-test-really-measure-intelligence#1

Took me 10 secs to google. It's the nature of the donald plebbitor to smugly talk about things you know nothing about after watching a documentary, but please take your incel self somewhere else. You're bringing down the board quality with your stupidity. Stick to your containment subreddits

>> No.10165929

>>10165923
>but it sounds so desperately pretentious that sometimes you just want to put it down

yeah, that is my main concern with baudrillards writing. it's written like something that places style above content.

>> No.10165942

>>10165925
> going by national mean iq, italy should be wealthier and more successful in scientific departaments than germany.

>northern italy still doesn't hold a candle to most of germany.

Well which is it? You're out of your league here.

>> No.10165944

Always the same fucking shit replies when someone says poststructuralism. I'm getting tired of this bullshit. We should flood /pol/ with leftist discussions, foucault derrida or something. I'll make a thread about this in the near future.

>> No.10165945

>>10165903
get the fuck out already /pol/ no one wants to engage you

>> No.10165950

>>10165928
As Richard Lynn and others subsequently have shown, the most important indicator of a nation's success is mean IQ. Your webmd articles mean jack shit.

>> No.10165958

>>10165950
"Success" is measured in sale of dildos and nigger ooga booga music so I wouldn't really consider it a very worthwhile goal.

>> No.10165959

>>10165942
southern germany > northern germany > northern italy > southern italy

something doesn't fit your pattern of south/north divide here.
germany is also wealthier than most of the uk, a "whiter" nation.

>> No.10165971

>>10165959
The north south divide is in Italy, there is very little difference between north and south Germany. IQ is the best indicator of success, period, and it's easy to understand and quantify along racial lines.

>> No.10165976

>>10165950
In addition to the guy that first replied to you, I'd like to also point out that you're a faggot for moving goalposts. Please go back to pleddit and kys

>> No.10165978

>>10165971
italy has a higher average iq than germany, as far as i know. so does mongolia. they're still nowhere as successful.

>> No.10165982

>>10165959
Not the guy that you are replying to but you should really take into account the fact that what you are referring to as "Northern Germany" is poorer than Southern Germany solely because it contains the formerly Communist Eastern Germany in it.
So, unless the guy you are arguing with said that iq is the sole factor in success, your argument falls down on its face rather quick.

>> No.10165990

>>10165978
Neither Italy nor Mongolia has a higher average IQ than Germany, wtf are you talking about? I must assume you are black if you're missing the mark by this much.

>> No.10165992

>>10165950
>one guy whose butthole I tongue in my dreams expressed his opinion pertaining subjects outside his realm of expertise and in addittion, made sweeping scientific arguments that were contested even in the 20th, and I'm going to deliberately ignore all advances genetic research and studies of our time

your statement has no more weight than: my mom said you're a nigger

>> No.10165994

>>10165982
>solely because it contains the formerly Communist Eastern Germany in it.

that's not the case. the south of germany is noticeably wealthier than the central and northern parts, which always were capitalist, as well.

>So, unless the guy you are arguing with said that iq is the sole factor in success, your argument falls down on its face rather quick.

unless i'm arguing with someone who claims that iq is the sole factor, i'm not disagreeing with him/her.

>> No.10165997

>>10165990
i took the first source i could find, which places italy and mongolia above germany
https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

which is yours?

>> No.10166003

>>10165994
>the south of germany is noticeably wealthier than the central and northern parts
I would like to see your source on that. I am no expert but, from what I recall, the most prosperous regions of Germany where north-western ones like North Rhine-Westphalia.

>> No.10166009

>>10165465
illiterate

>> No.10166010

>>10165950
>sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609000634?via%3Dihub

>On the basis of several reviews of the literature, Lynn [Lynn, R., (2006). Race differences in intelligence: An evolutionary analysis. Augusta, GA: Washington Summit Publishers.] and Lynn and Vanhanen [Lynn, R., & Vanhanen, T., (2006). IQ and global inequality. Augusta, GA: Washington Summit Publishers.] concluded that the average IQ of the Black population of sub-Saharan Africa lies below 70. In this paper, the authors systematically review published empirical data on the performance of Africans on the following IQ tests: Draw-A-Man (DAM) test, Kaufman-Assessment Battery for Children (K-ABC), the Wechsler scales (WAIS & WISC), and several other IQ tests (but not the Raven's tests). Inclusion and exclusion criteria are explicitly discussed. Results show that average IQ of Africans on these tests is approximately 82 when compared to UK norms. We provide estimates of the average IQ per country and estimates on the basis of alternative inclusion criteria. Our estimate of average IQ converges with the finding that national IQs of sub-Saharan African countries as predicted from several international studies of student achievement are around 82. It is suggested that this estimate should be considered in light of the Flynn Effect. It is concluded that more psychometric studies are needed to address the issue of measurement bias of western IQ tests for Africans.

>racialreality.blogspot.mx/2011/08/devastating-criticism-of-richard-lynn.html
For the papers without needing to buy them

You truly are an ADHD addled nigger aren't you? You propose these heavy claims but you have never even bothered to objetively analyze your own autismo deductions just because you were titillated by a /pol/ post paired with a pepe or something

>> No.10166021

>>10165997
This says Italy and Germany have the same (102) and puts Mongolia at 98. Mongolia has some weird nomadic spatial IQ boost but is low in other areas. As another poster said, east Germany has a communist hangover and as I said southern Italy and Sicily especially weighs down the northern Italian average, which is to say, as I've been saying from the start, that IQ is and ability is based on race.

http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries-with-the-highest-lowest-average-iq/

>> No.10166022

>>10166003
Nevermind. I just checked it and I am wrong. The most well off part of the country is Schleswig-Holstein in the extreme north of the country followed by Bavaria in the south.
So we were both wrong.

>> No.10166023

>>10165600
riddle me this: is zionism a capitalist plot, or is capitalism a zionist plot

>> No.10166043

>>10166010
You must have replied to the wrong person because I'm not saying Africans don't have low IQs and aren't dysfunctional: they do and are, and this is due to race.

>> No.10166044

>>10166021
so now we established that italy is performs far worse than germany despite similar iq, and that northern italy, which is even above italy and germany in general, is still poorer than germany.

>> No.10166051

>>10166023
Neither, because capitalism has nothing to do with it.

>> No.10166060

>>10165921
>Italy has a racial split
Blatantly wrong you polnigger, a lot of the workforce in northern Italy is composed by southern immigrants and their descendants. You're completely retarded if you think that the average genetic difference between a southern and a northern Italian is relevant

>> No.10166061

>>10165929
Did you read it in French?

>> No.10166063

>>10166043
No, you're the retard I intended to reply to. Please read the green text repeatedly until your low cognitive abilities are able to grasp the overarching general argument and criticism of your propagandist idol that preyed on people without education, such as yourself.

Once again, please kill yourself and attempt to pick up on basic reading comprehension skills.

>> No.10166067

>>10166061
no. i would've loved to be born as french native speaker, but i wasn't.

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This is the only picture of Foucault I've ever seen and I always thought he was black.. how embarrassing of me

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>>10165465
it's not all bad, but the French have idealized "Le Penseur" to an unusual extent.

intellectuals play a much larger role in public life than they do in Anglosphere, which should be a good thing, but as a consequence there's an arms race to look like the smartest guy in the room

anyway that's my dumb opinion

>> No.10166086

>>10166044
Seems more that certain regions in Germany perform worse due to recent economic/cultural (and probably Slavic, i.e., racial) factors and certain regions in Italy perform worse due to racial factors. Sicily has 10% semitic admixture which causes them to be less intelligent and more violent. IQ is based on race though, that's the underlying point here.

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>>10166073
>black
>philosopher

now c'mon

>> No.10166091

>>10165532
For some reason people think that pretentious = bad as if axiomatic that pretensious work can't be good.

>> No.10166094

>>10166060
It absolutely is relevant and groups like the Lombards are more successful due to their racial makeup.

>> No.10166100

>>10166043
>says africans have low IQ
>fails to understand an explicit statement and study

How the fuck are you talking about these things but misunderstood the study? The fucking irony of it is as depressing as it is hilarious

what a fucking nigger

>> No.10166102

>>10166086
nah, that's desperate bullshit coming from you, son. the wealthiest regions of germany (nrw, bavaria, baden-wurttemberg) have the highest number of immigrants -- by far, while the poorest (in the east) have the least.

>> No.10166106

>>10166063
I did read it, and since it confirms what I'm saying I can only assume you're an idiot.

>> No.10166116

>>10166102
Who's talking about immigrants? We're talking about race and IQ. Of course immigrants are going to flock to the wealthiest regions of a country.

>> No.10166121

how did this turn into a racebait thread?

>> No.10166123

>>10166091
the implication is pseudo-profundity

>> No.10166138

>>10166106
Let me highlight the important bit:

>It is concluded that more psychometric studies are needed to address the issue of measurement bias of western IQ tests for Africans.

Your cognitive ability is like a 7 year old's, but if you still think after reading that it confirms what you're saying then you're a moron beyond any help. An actual nigger is more apt than you. The only solution for you is to be lined up against a wall and shot so you stop being a burden to any type of discourse.

>> No.10166144

>>10166106
Do you have a steam/plebbit/jewtube page or something? You're like a character from a Confederacy of Dunces and I want to know to find out more about the habits of severely autistic person.

>> No.10166145

>>10166094
>It absolutely is relevant and groups like the Lombards are more successful due to their racial makeup.
No it isn't you stormnigger, read a book on italian internal migration

>> No.10166148

what a stupid thread

>> No.10166151

>>10165652
>Molyneux and Milo Rastapopoulos
Neither of them are American.

>> No.10166161

>>10166138
By stating that the reason Africans score low on intelligence tests is because of bias, you're only confirming your own stupidity.

>> No.10166165

>>10166145
Yes, it is.

>> No.10166172

>>10166161
I can't believe it
how do you manage to tie your shoes?

>> No.10166173

>>10165465
>>>/his/

>> No.10166178

>>10166151
Richard Spencer and Styx then

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>>10165507
>fell for the race significantly influences anything other than appearance meme
>>>/pol/

>> No.10166208

>>10166172
You are a weak thinker, this is not anyone else's fault.

>> No.10166234

>>10166208
Did you realize at some point that you're a retard an doubled down on it out of shame? Or do you sincerely misinterpret an explicit statement?

Here's an except from the paper:\
>One point of critique is that Lynn (and Vanhanen)'s estimate of average IQ among Africans is primarily based on convenience samples, and not on samples carefully selected to be representative of a given, targeted, population

>an important drawback of Lynn (and Vanhanen)'s reviews of the literature is that they are unsystematic. Unsystematic literature reviews do not adhere to systematic methodology to control for potential biases in the many choices made by the reviewer (Cooper, 1998; Light & Pillemer, 1984). Lynn (and Vanhanen) failed to explicate the inclusion and exclusion criteria they employed in their choice of studies. Such criteria act as a filter, and may thus affect the estimate of national IQ. Lynn (and Vanhanen) excluded data from several sources without providing a rationale.

Do any of these sound like they're in agreement of Lynn? There are multiples queues that indicate the disagreement with Lynn's "studies", such as words like "unsystematic literature reviews" or "criticism" If you do believe so, please post your address and I'll do you the favor of relieving you of your self appointed stupidity you dumb ADHD ridden nigger. I can only urge you to kill yourself for being so dumb and engaging in any type of conversation.

>> No.10166280

>>10165465

>brainlet anglo cant understand anything written in a language not waterdowned and simplified to the lowest common denominator

I bet you complain when your math teacher "forces" you to remember formulas too.

>> No.10166317

>>10166234
Not only do you engage in discourse like a retard, but your inconsequential disclaimers are meaningless. Decades of data confirm what people obviously smarter than yourself know instinctually, which is that Africans are a dysfunctional race incapable of any type of respectable level of achievement, and that this fact is due to race and the evolutionary environment that made them the way they are. To attribute these facts to test bias is utterly stupid and everyone knows it.

>> No.10166378

>>10166317
>everyone knows it
projecting this much

>> No.10166413

>>10166317
>knowledge is instinctual
The cherry on top of the cake. Suicide is your only option.

>> No.10166440

>>10165541
I'm a philosophy undergrad and I've literally heard only about G. Marcel of all these.

>> No.10166444

>>10166378
>>10166413
It's not controversial to say that Africans have low intelligence and as a result create dysfunctional societies. The main issue here is why are you two unable to process the facts and accept this reality.

>> No.10166449

>>10165640
>Focault isn't hard to read nor obscure
Have you tried reading Order of Things at least once?

>> No.10166504

>>10166444
There is no reason to repeat it all the time on a literature board. Don't act like anons are the main issue, it's unrelated.

>> No.10166535

>>10165507
>>>/pol/

>> No.10166544

>>10166504
>There is no reason to repeat it
There is when people deny it.

>> No.10166545

>>10165815
And please do explain what's bad about France today?

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>>10165658
>>10166180
>>10166535
>He fell for the racial egalitarianism "everything is environmental"
>Genotype doesn't influence behavior or intelligence, just phenotypes
>There is a scientific consensus among neurobiology, genetics, and anthropology that denies race existing and that it influences behavior
>Memes

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>>10166583

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>>10166590

>> No.10166635

>>10166121
Because /pol/ exists and for whatever reason certain people that go there like to go to other boards and then enter into topics with false information, thinking that it is accurate.

>> No.10166644

>>10166545
France is on the brink of becoming a caliphate. Do you pay any attention to current events?

>> No.10166650

>>10166635
Better explanation
>Someone mentioned that Jews arent Frenchmen
Then leddit told someone who doesn't hold their own bourgeois values to go back to /pol/ because they are just that sensitive.

Also, if you have any kind of contradictory opinion to liberalism or leftism you are /pol/ and must fuck off back to where you came from :DDD

>> No.10166651

>>10166544
Just stop race baiting, anon. This is a literature board.

>> No.10166652

>>10166644
>France is on the brink of becoming a caliphate.
You are completely delusional. Stop accepting what /pol/ tells you as truth.

>> No.10166655

>>10166635
What isn't accurate? Do you know how to interpret quantitative data?

>> No.10166657

>>10166652
>Oh no, someone thinks differently than me
>They must be lying, basing themselves off of false information (because it isn't what I believe in), or arguing in bad faith
I hate brainlets so much.

>> No.10166669

>>10166652
Are you joking? Seriously, are you aware of what's happening in western Europe?

>>10166651
You're lecturing the wrong side here. But anyone who pretends to care about French literary and philosophical culture should desire to protect it. I want to protect it. Do you?

>> No.10166699

>>10165465
the war revealled how pointless reality is

>> No.10166717

>>10166444
You have severe cognitive bias. I'm not insulting you, but do you have autism or ADHD? I refuse to acknowledge someone normal is this daft. Also, you're running in circles.

>> No.10166724

>>10165465
You just don't understand them. If that's what you got out of a reading of any major post-war French philosopher, you simply have a poor understanding of their texts and thought.

>> No.10166728

>>10166717
Can you explain black dysfunctionality wherever they are, on their home continent, Haiti, America, etc.? If you cannot you should consider your own cognitive bias before attempting to point out anyone else's.

>> No.10166743

>>10166699
this somewhat.

the humiliating french capitulation in ww2, the dissolution of the french empire in the 50s must've contributed to the kind of climate that created existentialism and postmodernism.

>> No.10166770

>>10166728
You've already displayed yourself to have a very low cognitive ability and almost no reading comprehension, why would anyone sane engage with you in a discussion when you can't grasp the most basic of premises? Now answer you disgusting subhuman, do you have ADHD or autism?

>> No.10166829

>>10165652
Best part is that the Anglo-American "left wing" is purely dealing with issues produced in America. Racism, queer culture and so on were never issues in the same way as these people present outside the United States. In the end it is yet another form of cultural imperialism.

>>10166151
Neither is Jordan "Bad*ss" Peterson, but that doesn't stop him from blaming the French.

>> No.10166862

>>10166829
>Best part is that the Anglo-American "left wing" is purely dealing with issues produced in America. Racism, queer culture and so on were never issues in the same way as these people present outside the United States. In the end it is yet another form of cultural imperialism.
This*100
Amerilards don't realize how much self centered they are, it's almost like they're completely oblivious of their surroundings and live in a state of perpetual solipsism

>> No.10166869

>>10166829
>the Anglo-American "left wing"

I'll assume you're just misinformed here, but the left's agenda is, and has for a very long time been, driven primarily by jews.

>> No.10166948

>>10166669
>You're lecturing
so much projection

>> No.10166959

Because they were all influenced by Nietzsche

>> No.10166978

>>10166770
Again, my argument was that Africans are unintelligent because of their ethnic/genetic composition; yours is that they aren't unintelligent and that IQ tests are biased. Everyone knows you are wrong here, obviously, so all you did was embarrass yourself.

>> No.10166982

>>10166978
>Look mom, I posted it again!

>> No.10167016

>>10165640
That is an incredibly stupid viewpoint.

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>>10166869
Would you look at that. Yet another American problem. Who'd have thought.

>> No.10167201

>>10167016
why

>> No.10167211

>>10167016
Yeah I was kinda speculating. It's true that he didn't think give a shit about being intellegibile though.

>> No.10167821

>>10167211
Don't be so hard on yourself, desu.

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>>10165883
>other people say that subverting the tradition is good for reasons, therefore I agree because I want a place in the "philosophical world"

You're a pretentious joke

>> No.10167871

>>10167854
anon didn't write that at all

>> No.10167886

>>10166440
Gilson is a big name, I don't speak French and I've a few of his books on Thomism.

>> No.10167962

>>10165883
>indebted to heidegger
anyone who is indebted to heidegger and not kierkegaard is automatically a pseud in my book.

>> No.10168018

>>10165507
Stop this jew-memeing

>> No.10168027

>>10166440
That says more about you then it does his list.

>> No.10168035

>>10165600
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams

>> No.10168081

>>10165903
There is not even a debate because serious people don't debate bullshit.

>> No.10168083

>>10165921
Explain why teachers and professors in the north come from the south.

>> No.10168096

>>10166138
They should measure the IQ of these nazis. I bet there will be interesting results.

>> No.10168117

I like the part when they dance the Mamooshka.

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>>10165921
>>10168083
Pseudoapollodoros

Get the brazen bull

>> No.10168127

>>10166317
what does 'dysfunctional race' even mean. What is the function of a race?

>> No.10168139

>>10166978
Your argument is false and stems from a fascist agenda.

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>not assimilating the positive contributions of french theorists without being dragged down to their level

>> No.10168381

>>10165507
Which is why Derrida is invested in actually restoring Western philosophy instead of going the route of individualist Nietzschism philosophy-is-just-metaphors-bro.

>> No.10168383

>>10165465
This is the opposite of Derrida's thinking though. He shouldn't be lumped in with the rest of those hacks. Even Sokal knew better.

>> No.10168385

>>10165465
>that pic
we believe in nothing lebowski

NOTHING

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>>10168363
>not sinking lower still

>> No.10168558

they were bitter and insecure about losing so much.

>> No.10168688

>>10167016
agreed

>> No.10168702

>>10165541
>posts literal who's

>> No.10168786

>>10165543
>>10165544
Fuck me /pol/tards are completely obsessed with Jews. is it a sexual thing?

>> No.10168849

>>10166862
Racism has obviously been a problem in Australia, and still is, but often Americans come here they also project their racial issues onto us, completely inappropriately. Like saying "blackface" (their term) used in Australia (to simply make the skin darker to impersonate a specific darker skinned person) is racist. The worst part is, we have taken cues from their culture and ingrained their conception of race as part of our own, and held ourselves to their standards, even when there are uniquely Australian race issues to deal with.

>> No.10168856

>>10168786
Lol of course a jew would jump to such a conclusion.

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>>10168702
>professor in La Sorbonne and at the Collège de France + member of the Académie Française, one of the best known neo-thomists
>metaphysics chair in La Sorbonne (Bourdieu, Derrida and several other complained about that), prolific journalist/critic, translator, destroyed Deleuze & Guattari in L'apocalypse du désir
>professor in Montpellier but not that known
>professor in ESCP and HEC, made a book with Levinas
>professor in La Sorbonne, and in the Ludwig-Maximilian Universität
>friend and editor of Simone Weil
>professor in La Sorbonne, one of the finest specialists of Renaissance/post-Renaissance thought
>prolific journalist mostly, taught philosophy, pro-may-68 in a certain way, defended the New Philosophers, critic of Kant
>professor for preparatory classes, very solid thomist
>marine officer, solid maths and biology skills, professor of philosophy, studied psychoanalysis from a thomistic point of view, Ricoeur's "master"
>professor of philosophy, editor, composer, father of Catholic existentialism

yeah better stick to jews and deconstructionist fags that at least are known internationaly

>> No.10168930

>>10168383
derridas philosophy is basically the peak of the post-modern dissolution of western culture.

it's even literally called DECONSTRUCTION.

>> No.10169019

>>10168930
lol

>> No.10169066

>>10168930
This is true. It seems so simple and obvious, but people often try to pretend it's more complicated than it is, or that others don't get it, or that it's an extension of western philosophy, when foundationally it really is that basic and quintessentially jewish in its subversive principles and intents. Also, reading Derrida and others is a complete waste of time if you don't realize this or don't understand the jewish question and anyone saying they understand it while denying those elements is full of shit.

>> No.10169074

>>10168930
>>10169066
upvoted, my fellow kekistani
derrida is a jewish intellectual trying to subvert white society. you can find all about this on /pol/ or r/the_donald. stay woke xD

>> No.10169078

>>10169074
Don't forget about Peterson, based pede
Let's will KEK into turning /lit/ into less of a cultural marxist shithole

>> No.10169089

>>10165465
well, it (not that it's a unified thing) doesn't really say most of those things, so I suggest you start your research over

>> No.10169091

>>10169074
>>10169078
t. jewish shills.

>> No.10169093

>>10168905
i still don't give a shit about them

>> No.10169094

/pol/ stormniggers out please

>> No.10169112

>>10169074
Not quite sure who you're trying to parody here, are you?

>> No.10169152

>>10169091
prove it

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>>10169152

>> No.10169225

>>10169223
not an argument

>> No.10169374

>>10165640
or maybe it's just the difficulty of translating french into english, esp with philosophical concepts :^)

>> No.10169861

>>10169374
maybe

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>>10168905
>Boutang destroyed Deleuze & Guattari in L'apocalypse du désir

>> No.10170391

>>10165541
le ressentiment list

>> No.10170708

the world would be a trite place if not for the french

>> No.10170718

>>10168930
Where does Derrida say language isn't real?

>> No.10170725

>>10165507

duh, Jews dont read the Quran

>> No.10170727

>>10169066
Derrida himself is subverted by jews to promote jewish interests, and in your mistake you owe this to his ethnicity (but claim whites can further jewish interests despite their ethnicity). Derrida's intentions are the opposite, stop trying your mystifying nonsense.

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10170821

Imagine believing that.
Imagine being a Drumpf supporter.
Imagine being a rural and suburban retard.

>> No.10170855

why is this thread full of stormniggers and /pol/ brainlets

>> No.10170922

>>10170727
Your statement isn't very coherent, but Derrida is not "subverted" by other jews; other jews merely take his general prescription in various directions as the winds change. This is usually in the form of endless internal critique with the target, often vaguely disguised through language (post-colonial, hegemony, exclusion, etc.), being whites/white men. This is prevalent throughout the humanities and is a (formerly more) subtle way for jews to use the academic disciplines/institutions white men created/built to attack us. This is what they do, it's a pattern of behavior that isn't difficult to understand if you know how jews think and are aware of the unhealthy degree of hatred they have for non-jews instilled in them by their culture.

>> No.10170927

>Derrida saying language isnt real

He would say the opposite is true

>> No.10170982

>>10165465
Unimaginable butthurt generated by the increasingly obvious failings of the Soviet Union as a socialist utopia, the growing hegemony of America over Europe and thus the English over the French, and just good old-fashioned French snobbery.

Really the entire philosophical tradition in France post-Revolution has been abysmal. They are constantly trying to save the French Revolution and its unique strand of enlightenment ideas when everyone can plainly see it was a failure.

>> No.10170999

>>10166862
Why should Americans not deal with and be interested in American issues? I see this as a uniquely European problem, that you are somehow mind-melding with America.

>> No.10171043

>>10170999
That poster is likely not white, which is why he is attempting to divide whites. Use of the term "Anglo" is usually the give away.

>> No.10171390

>>10168786
they are literally nigger-tier retards that can't complain about ''da white man keeping them down'' being white themselves, so they blame jews

>> No.10171424

>>10171390
No, jews earn their blame. They are bad people, wield disproportionate power over western institutions, and therefore have an incredibly negative effect on our societies and must be called out and dealt with.

>> No.10171474

>>10170922
>other jews merely take his general prescription in various directions as the winds change. This is usually in the form of endless internal critique with the target, often vaguely disguised through language (post-colonial, hegemony, exclusion, etc.), being whites/white men.

No, there is a large disconnect between the work of Derrida itself and the directions it is taken in in the humanities. I see you are having great difficulty actually claiming outright that Derrida's writing takes the 'forms' of it you see in the humanities (as evidenced by the above quote) because you yourself know you are pulling some mystical bullshit to justify your false beliefs. You are the enemy of white systems which respect clarity, truth, and coherency. You are practicing the opposite and using word games, which you need to stop.

>> No.10171506

>>10168905
>thomism
wanna know how I know you're an autist?

>> No.10171542

>>10171424
>jews must be called out and dealt with
Take it to the streets then, let this board discuss literature.

>> No.10171556

>>10170922
That's quite an elaborate theory you got going there.

I think Jews only really have holocaust resentments, other than that nothing against white pepo, and while it is an important subject, it's just becoming less and less thought about over time.

>> No.10171560

>>10171474
You don't seem to have a very strong grasp of these ideas or how they manifest in the real world. I don't know whether you're intentionally trying to blur the lines or just showcasing your own ignorance, but giving you the benefit of the doubt, I'll assume you don't know any better.

>> No.10171569

>>10171556
It's not elaborate at all; in fact I explicitly stated that it's quite simple. Nevertheless, if you think jewish resentment begins with their supposed holocaust, I got some news for you. Judaism is based on resentment and the encouragement of retaliation against those who've done the jews wrong going back centuries. There's really nothing like it, actually. Look into their concept of "amalek."

>> No.10171580

>>10171560
How they 'manifest in the real world' is not the point of the conversation. I have to remind you again these ideas are not present in Derrida, even if they are established ideas in the jewish academy based on the work of Derrida. They are subversions of Derrida's work, which is white in origin and conclusion.

>> No.10171596

>>10171569
Modern Jews that you care about aren't religious, even Israel(my country) is incredibly western in most of the population, here we are more influenced by the army than by some vague Judaic influence that has been lost since our great-grandfathers have stopped believing in this religion etc

But probably it's too close to my face to see it, amalek is on my mind every day! There is a funny Facebook page in Israel called amalek, you know.

>> No.10171609

>>10171580
You're confused, friend. But I think I understand where you're getting hung up. Derrida's work is not in any way white/European in origin or conclusion; it's the exact opposite: patently jewish. In fact, his work follows a well-documented jewish pattern of subversion based on inversion. To break it down in simple form: European philosophy historically seeks truth and meaning; jewish philosophy thus promotes the inversion of those values and states that there is no truth or meaning, that everything is individual and subjective, and therefore we can't really know anything at all. Jews apply this strategy to everything as well, and have been doing it for thousands of years to undermine their host societies.

>> No.10171618

France is ripe for extinction. The French people want to perish, and we should help them do so. The longer they stay on the further their intellectual rot will spread.

>> No.10171619

>>10171609
this stupid post again

>> No.10171620

>>10171596
It's more about the culture the religion has historically shaped and influenced. It doesn't really matter what modern secular jews claim they believe, their behavior has been enormously influenced by Talmudic teachings, inflated self-worth as chosenites, and paranoid in-group hatred toward outsiders.

>> No.10171627

>>10171620
t. paranoiac with inflated self-worth

>> No.10171633

>>10171609
>jewish philosophy thus promotes the inversion of those values and states that there is no truth or meaning, that everything is individual and subjective, and therefore we can't really know anything at all.

You've just exposed your ignorance of Derrida. There is nothing in his work that promotes this thinking because Derrida writes specifically within philosophy because it only functions by its claims to truth and meaning. You're the one getting confused by your own failures in logic by claiming that since the jewish academy uses Derrida to justify the inversion of white philosophy then Derrida must be the inverse of white philosophy. This is false (hence why you can only appeal to 'jewish philosophy' in general rather than Derrida himself since you haven't read Derrida), even if Derrida is jewish. You're trying to prove the jewish nature of Derrida's work by circumstantial evidence and his influence (i.e. the subversion of his work which is white in character) rather than the work itself. This is not permissible in white philosophy.

>> No.10171650

>>10171620
Modern western culture(for all Jews except ultra orthodox) and the army (for Israelis) has shaped modern Jewish culture more than the Talmud, the belief in being worthy or the fear of outsiders.

Jews however are more tribal to an extent, in the west they have almost completely lost this death, modern Jewish culture in America and in Europe is weak and it's dying out overall.

In a few generations most Jews will be mixed, Jewish surnames will be past around and it will be just another strange etymology to look back on.

Basically, you are inflating every point that you make, and you label it "especially jewish" even though the features you described show up all over the world, example:

East asia, including the richest parts

>> No.10171655

>>10171633
This is going to be the third time I tell you that you don't understand Derrida. Even on a basic level it's difficult to gauge how you've even reached the conclusions you have. But I guess I should have expected this since you're starting with the bizarre premise that modern academia is "inverting" Derrida's work.

>> No.10171661

>>10168381

t. guy who has no idea what the fuck he's talking about and has read neither derrida nor nietzsche

>> No.10171664

>>10171655
>Even on a basic level it's difficult to gauge how you've even reached the conclusions you have.

The most basic level: I read Derrida therefor I can make claims for what Derrida says. Your way of going about the argument seems to do everything -except- appeal to what Derrida has actually written. You've attempted to weasel your way out of the conversation in every single reply to me yet.

>> No.10171669

>>10171650
That culture is deeply embedded within jewish nature, which is not surprising for a highly inbred who for centuries has lived in enclaves where they were forced to memorize the myriad sadistic jewish texts, and that is reflected in their behavior, through tribalism and immense hatred of non-jews. And I don't buy the jews are going to disappear. They've been infiltrating other people's societies for centuries and they're still here. There's always the trough of secularizing spawn from hasids to pull from as well.

>> No.10171674

>>10171664
You are completely misinterpreting his ideas and even leftists who don't agree with anything I'm saying would tell you that. I have no clue how you've reached the conclusions you have either, they are literally that far afield. What else can I say?

>> No.10171687

>>10171674
No, the jewish academy has misinterpreted his ideas which is why you think that his ideas invert white philosophy, since you are only familiar with him by the second-hand interpretations of the academic jews. Leftists are morons who haven't read Derrida either.

>> No.10171727

>>10171687
You're essentially saying that everyone's interpretation of Derrida is wrong but your own. But you're basing your interpretation on the notion that this jewish philosopher was rooted in the European tradition and that it wasn't his work that was subversive, but the jewish academic establishment that took up his ideas and spread their misinterpretations of them throughout academia. You know this is an unusual perspective, right? Can't you see how it would make more sense to conclude that this jew's work was always subversive which was why jewish academia seized upon it and use it to further jewish interests in the first place? Occam's razor here, man.

>> No.10171751

>>10171727
This is you misunderstanding Occam's razor too, isn't that funny? But if you were really interested in Occam's razor you would be conclusively proving, by explicitly quoting Derrida, that his work is subversive. You have opted not to.

I'm saying there are people who read Derrida and have a better nuanced understanding of his work (e.g. not just "there is no truth or meaning" which will never be found in Derrida) and then there are others who think Derrida and other postmodern thinkers have interchangable thoughts and attack postmodernism as a shorthand for attacking Derrida instead of attacking the work of Derrida itself. There are plenty of people who have the same interpretation of Derrida as me, and it is often written of him that he is one of the most misunderstood philosophers as well as one of the most 'influential', at least by the literary theorists who took up their own interpretations of Derrida as 'theory'. Keep in mind though Derrida was not a literary theorist, and the distinction between literary writing and philosophy were key to his work.

>> No.10171801

>>10171751
Well, you're incorrect. Derrida's philosophy was constructed as a way to attack concepts and institutions that were at the time inherently European. That was the foundation of it: to disrupt a hierarchy of ideas, beliefs, and systems that were European in nature and invert them. This was in line with jewish interests and so it was adopted by said interests. Simple as that. Unfortunately, with Derrida and postmodernists in general, these central concepts are often shrouded in ambiguous language, which causes people like yourself to obtain your own interpretation of them.

>> No.10171809

>>10171801
Weird because Derrida actually uses very specific language and even explains why he is using certain words!

>> No.10171826

>>10171801
>these central concepts are often shrouded in ambiguous language
Derrida's work is actually a gift for able readers

>> No.10171842

>>10171809
>>10171826
I'm sure that's why so many misinterpret his ideas, including, according to one poster, the entire academic establishment. As I explained earlier, to understand Derrida one must understand how jew's think from a historical perspective. Few do. But Derrida's thought actually aligns perfectly within jewish thought in general if you understand how they act in response to their host culture.

>> No.10171856

>>10171842
i'll bite
what is jewish thought?

>> No.10171906

>>10171856
Jews are a group that has been living in other people's lands for millennia. They have been able to remain cohesive in such foreign environments by strictly enforcing an in-group identity that is defined in opposition to those they live among. This oppositional nature is reflected through their behavior when they obtain power, and we can see it manifested through many things: Derrida's work of course, Marxism, and the policies jews promote in general, but it's as old as recorded history and was responsible for the birth of things like monotheism, which the jews imposed on Egyptians, and which led to one of their earliest recorded expulsions: Exodus. Link to a review of the book that explains this concept in more detail below:

https://www.counter-currents.com/2014/06/moses-the-egyptian/

>> No.10172013

>>10171842
Academic jews using Derrida to justify their ideas doesn't mean the ideas are drawn from Derrida. If they were they wouldn't be applied to literary theory. Academic jews take things out of context to further their own agenda, in this case including Derrida. None the less, attacking the academic jews does not attack Derrida. And to understand how Derrida thinks is to read his work, which you haven't done. If Spinoza can contribute greatly to the Western tradition while being a jew, so can Derrida, and as such so can Foucault contribute greatly to the jewish philosophy while still being white.

Unless you hope to demonstrate using quotes how Derrida's thought aligns with jewish philosophy, don't bother replying. You've tried to sneak away from the point long enough.

>> No.10172050

>>10171906
right, and are these behaviours and thought patterns genetic or cultural?

also, are these ''jewish ideologies'' created consciously to destroy the societies of others or is it something that they just do and create without being aware of it, just following their nature as it were

>> No.10172120

>>10172050
there is no way to answer such questions, just live your life and don't worry about the joos

>> No.10172143

>>10172013
It is unreasonable for you to expect me to provide quotes to prove my analysis when you haven't done so and hold an opinion that is accepted by neither academics nor those who staunchly oppose Derrida like myself. Your claim that Derrida's thought aligns with that of the western tradition is nonsensical on several grounds: a) he was jewish, b) much of his thought opposes the foundational principles of western thought like hierarchy and the western philosophical tradition in general, c) and that you yourself admit that his work has been promoted (rightly or wrongly) by the jewish academic establishment. You have no ground to stand on here and haven't even made a real argument for why you hold a belief no one else shares. And the statement below:

>If Spinoza can contribute greatly to the Western tradition

contributes to why I must assume you are overall simply not informed about the subjects and individuals you are attempting to talk about. Spinoza was also uniquely jewish.

iah-to-messiah-the-engineered-apotheosis-of-baruch-spinoza-part-1-of-3/

And why would jews have the same thought processes as Europeans anyway? Of course they don't.

>> No.10172193

>>10172120
Yes, there is.

>>10172050
Genetics inform culture, or put another way, culture is a reflection of a people's genetic composition. I don't think jews are aware of it to a large extent, but it's hard to say since many obviously are. What I think we're dealing with here are a people who have two sets of rules: one for themselves and another for non-jews, whom their culture has embedded within them the belief that they are destined to rule over. They think non-jews are a different species, below them, cattle, goyim. They also hold immense hatred for non-jews, especially those they believe have wronged them in the past.

It's this belief that they have a right to rule over others and the fact that they are a nationless people that leads them to create universalist ideologies to both allow them to fit in and attack the basic principles that hold a people together through identity and nationhood. Christianity, communism, and liberalism are all universalist and thus in direct opposition to a singular concept of identity and defined territoriality. Jews would be kept out of those environments, and frequently were. This is why jewish globalism fears and focuses its attacks on nationalism from whites, why all whites who think in terms of their own group consciousness and desire their own territorial integrity are today viewed as the main enemy. Because jews know that cannot rule over and exploit us in such a social and political environment.

>> No.10172236

>>10170821
imagine backing a failed candidate 2bh

>> No.10172251

>>10172143
My 'opinion' comes from people like Norris and Spivak (aside from Derrida himself) who are leading Derrida scholars and coincidently don't treat deconstruction as a manual for tearing apart the Western tradition. Academic jews are more concerned with outlining a general 'postmodernism' as it applies to various humanities (rather than philosophy itself) which is the kind of ellipses Derrida claims runs counter to the truth claims of the Western (philosophical) tradition. They're not offering specific, focused courses on Derrida. You say few understand how jews think, well I tell you few understand Derrida's work including jews themselves. People generally aren't committed to reading, let alone reading philosophy. It's easier to get your opinions second-hand.

> b) much of his thought opposes the foundational principles of western thought like hierarchy and the western philosophical tradition in general

It doesn't. It is not unreasonable for me to assume the burden of proof is on you. So far you have not dispelled any reason for why I should think you are not simply repeating the academic interpretation of Derrida. It is a chance for you to demonstrate the integrity of your own argument rather than expectations of talking to another person. These are what define truth in white systems and if you want to opt out of it when convenient then that is fine, but the only people who will believe you are those already with a propensity for believing the mystical.

Derrida doesn't 'oppose' hierarchy but shows how oppositions in writing sometimes betray their own hierarchy. Jews in general don't oppose hierarchy anyway.

>> No.10172358

>>10172251
But you're still assuming benevolence despite indicating (for whose benefit, I'm not sure) that you're aware of how other jews use his work to subvert western society. As I keep telling you, this is odd from several perspectives. If you are aware of jewish subversion techniques generally, aware of why Derrida is often viewed as the poster boy of such things, and openly admit that his ideas are used by other jews to subvert, what makes you so certain that that wasn't the intention?

>It doesn't

It does though, and moreover, both left and right wing people agree that it does -- that social hierarchy, institutions, and the perspective of the source are to have doubt cast upon them and be nitpicked and critiqued as much as the substance itself. What you seem to be saying is that he had good intentions forwarding such ideas even though you admit that you are aware of how jews have used those concepts to attack white society, and this is simply a bizarre perspective.

>> No.10172388

>>10172358
It doesn't matter if it's 'odd' from 'several perspectives' or not. That is not how we determine truth. Derrida has said in interviews that the interpretation of his work does not resemble his work. Are you saying Derrida has misinterpreted his own work?

>his ideas are used by other jews to subvert, what makes you so certain that that wasn't the intention?

Then it would possibly be true that inverted white ideas also have the intention of being subversive which is nonsense.

>It does though

No, that is an interpretation of Derrida that is wrong.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/20865695

>> No.10172452

>>10172388
Well, if Derrida's public assertions about his own philosophy are the defining factor, then I guess our disagreement boils down to confidence regarding his sincerity. Knowing what I know about jews and their kol nidre morality, I would expect him to say nothing less than that he respects the western canon and that his intentions are good. But I don't believe it for a second, and that's a reputation his people have earned.

>> No.10172511

>>10165465
>Not seeing true French philiosophy was neo scholasticim with Maritain, Gilson and Garrigou-Lagrange

>> No.10172919

>>10172013
>tfw had classes with one of the foremost Derridean scholars in Europe
>tfw things like whiteness, "the phallus", sexism and classism where brought on literally every class

>> No.10174253

>>10165883
>authentic existence
I miss banter, guys. Do you remember banter? We'd call each other cunts and we'd mean it, too. Sit awake all night giving each other handjobs in a circle like it was Christmas tomorrow forever. Boy. I miss banter.

>> No.10175476

>>10174253
Bamp

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>>10174253

>> No.10175500

>>10165507
Nah. I do believe race goes deeper than skin, but to think it somehow influences your worldview from a biological standpoint is retarded.

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>> No.10175742

>>10175500
No, it's not. You just don't know anything about human biodiversity.

>> No.10176371

>>10175734
is that satire? i hope it is

>> No.10176464

>>10165465
Because all it basically is is 'OUI OUI, SHOVE LE BAGUETTE IN MY ASSHOLE!'

>> No.10176651

>>10165990

Listen up you fucking double bigger, it was DICK LYNN, y o u r #1 source, who put Mongolia as one of the highest iq countries

Why? Because he is a borderline retard and his 'science' is an Utter joke

>> No.10176661

>>10166043

Hoooooly fuck you're stupid, Jesus Christ man..

>> No.10176673

>>10171390
Guess what? The niggers are right. We keep them down, because tehy cannot possibly compete on equal footing with us.

Don't hate: segregate.

>> No.10176732

>>10165465
Okay, so we got a Jew on the right, an AIDS ridden homosexual in the center, who is on the left?

>> No.10176802

>>10176661
How is it stupid to say blacks have low IQs and are dysfunctional when they have the lowest IQ of any race and are dysfunctional everywhere they exist?

>> No.10176863

I have read some. Why are they such word salds, is there a meaning behind why do they seek to be such word salads? Speaking about thing like Capitalism and Schizophrenia.

Foucalt is not like this but I don't really unde<rstand him. What I'ver ead of him sounds like pop psychology more than hardcore phil.

>> No.10177942

>>10166180
t. Cucked bugman

>> No.10177954

>>10166652
Are you aware of what's happening? In western europe all you have to is watch the news or look down your street.

>> No.10177957

>>10165465
>>dude, culture isn't real, language isn't real, your desires aren't real, capitalism and institutions are evil and life is meaningless anyways xD

First of all, it would be more honest to locate these guys in the cosmopolitan bourgeois neighborhood of Saint-German des Prés in Paris.
Secondly, these guys were funded and advertized by the CIA and anglo-american academia long after the large majority of French thinkers had abandoned these hacks.
And lastly, their work was badly translated, which doesn't excuse the shit they wrote, but is important to mention.

>> No.10178008

>>10166644
>>10166669
>>10177954

Obvious american posters.
Western Europe has a massive issue with muslim filth, but the causes and size of those issues are completely unknown to you, which is why you spend your time literally fantasizing about white women being raped by muslims.
It's not a surprise after all, burgers and muslims have always been working together against Europe.

>> No.10178028

>>10178008
I am from the UK, my primary school that I attended as a child is now 50% muslim. My local area is also experiencing a slow increase in muslim population, as is the rest of the city.
Where are you from?

>> No.10178490

>>10178008
The reason the west is getting overrun by non-whites is well documented and known: jews. That you don't happen to know or understand this is no real matter, you're likely either not smart, lazy, or ideologically gaslighted against figuring it out. Funny you think it's some grand unknowable mystery though.

>> No.10178572

>>10175500
It makes perfect sense though

>> No.10178635

>>10178572
for you

>> No.10180045

>>10166003
It's Bavaria and BW

>I'm a German

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ITT

>> No.10180096

>>10165865
Is your room clean?

>> No.10180146

>>10180063
is this Alain Soral ?

>> No.10180565

>>10165465
the U.S. constitution assumes citizen's rights are granted expressly by God
the French constitution only says that rights are guaranteed by the state
this fundamental difference in the source of rights led to french thought and its denial of objective truth, and in doing so, the existence of actual human rights
without a foundational axiom like God upon which to base all other beliefs, the whole of society comes crumbling down

>> No.10180664

>>10168905
Not translated to English = Not fucking relevant.

>> No.10181132

>>10178490
>That you don't happen to know or understand this is no real matter, you're likely either not smart, lazy, or ideologically gaslighted
you

Yes, i guess we're just to dumb to understand a ''da white man keepin a brotha down''-tier theory. This has absolutely nothing to do with capitalists wanting cheap labour, nope, it's an ethnic hivemind with a collective goal who is out to destroy other ethnicities because their religious texts calls outsiders inferior, even though a large portion of them are atheists

>> No.10181217

>>10166440
This seems absolutely possible since Philosphy undergrads are completely ignorants with a vague idea of 3 or 4 authors who haven't read more than 10 books of philosophy (in best case scenario).

>> No.10181230

>>10180146
I'd say he's Foucault. Soral doesn't wear glasses as far as I know. Also look how shiny is that bald head, Alain has some hair I think.

>> No.10181240

>>10166180
This.

>> No.10181341

>>10181132
Blaming this nebulous figure known as the "capitalist" is profoundly stupid and shows a complete lack of insight into the actual problems of society. Jews control through media moralizing, banking, and public policy pressure the ways in which capitalism is manifested, and in whose interest it works -- the interest of jews, who are anti-nationalist, i.e., against the white people of the white nations they reside in. They also behave in this antagonistic way partly because of the hateful religious teachings embedded in their culture, so whether or not an individual jew is an atheist is inconsequential.

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>>10165465
Capitalism does suck objectively. Production for exchange on the marketplace rather than production for direct use is literally destroying the world.

>> No.10181406

>>10181366
>Production for exchange on the marketplace rather than production for direct use is literally destroying the world.
What does that have to do with capitalism? you've more described market socialism than capitalism.

>> No.10181474

>>10181406
Capitalism is production for exchange on the market with private property and wage labor.

>> No.10181483

>>10181474
>Capitalism is production for exchange on the market
Your confusing capitalism for a market economy, they come hand-in-hand but they are separate things.

>> No.10181486

>>10165465
el americANO señores

>> No.10181490

>>10181341
Capitalists are not nebulous, they're a distinct political and economic class of people with an equally distinct set of interests, those interests being ensuring the highest rate of profit possible from their enterprises. Their policies become more and more heinous because rates of profits fall naturally and the capitalists have to combat this.

>> No.10181514

>>10181366
>Production for exchange on the marketplace rather than production for direct use is literally destroying the world
you lack some serious historical education

>> No.10181521

>>10181483
Yeah but this is besides the point of my original post, the main flaw of capitalism in light of the data we have on climate science is production for exchange rather than for direct use. While mutualism or a Tito era Yugoslavia type economy might be generally happier and more ethical due to less stark class distinctions, they won't save humanity because they still create shitloads of waste due to the market.

>> No.10181527

>>10181514
Are you implying that overproduction doesn't contribute massively to ecological change?

>> No.10181546

>>10181527
then it is overproduction not "production for exchange" which has been going on for centuries

>> No.10181560

>>10181490
Your attempt to classify the "capitalist" as some type of biological entity with its own interests is just silly. As a German's interests differ from those if a Chinaman, so too will their capital-driven interests and the moral and social aspects surrounding their decisions. Capitalism will thus differ in how it looks and be reflective of the people making the day to day decisions, but more importantly be reflective of the people making decisions on the most macro scale, and those people are jews. That's why "capitalism" works in favor of jewish interests and against those of whites. Stop blaming an abstract system, it makes you look dumb.

>> No.10181570

>>10181546
Production for exchange directly causes overproduction. If we calculated how many shoes everyone needed and distributed accordingly, a market for shoes is superfluous.

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>>10181560
I'm not classifying the capitalist as a biological entity, how did you get that from my post?

>> No.10181603

>>10181570
but the calculation will never be perfect so it will either cause overproduction or underproduction, and while walking shoeless might not be a big deal, try that with food

>> No.10181615

>>10181583
>"as [if it's] some type of biological entity"
Was mostly metaphorical since you're applying group biological concepts to an abstract modern entity.

>> No.10181645

>>10181603
>but the calculation will never be perfect
Read Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott. For example, in Chile, during the truckers strike, Salvador Allende before he was overthrown, was able to calculate how much the stores would need and the economy worked until he was overthrown by the CIA.

>> No.10181654

>>10181615
How is class interests a group biological concept? If we had true human biodiversity there would be more societies without any class distinctions. You're implying that because the master and the slave are the same race, that they have the same interests, this is obviously false.

>> No.10181774

>>10181654
It's not false, though. Class interests will always be subordinate to racial interests, except when a system, like the jewish global capitalist system, is able to incentivize the selling out of one's own race. As a human system capitalism is rooted in incentives and can be molded in an infinite number of ways, and the current jewish global capitalist system has incentivized anti-national policies, where one is rewarded for throwing their own under the bus. Whites are also predisposed to accepting such a system since whites are hyper-individualists who think in universalist terms and are comparatively not very clannish. That's how this works. Capitalism doesn't have to function the way it does now, it does because that's how tribal jews have incentivized it to work -- in their own group's global-minded interests using whites' individualist nature and our homelands as their system's springboard and their international headquarters, respectively. Your "capitalist" will follow orders and work within the parameters of the system, however it's arranged. What's important is by whom and in whose interests it was arranged.

>> No.10181799

>>10181774
>class is always subordinate to racial interests, except when it isn't
Hot take

>> No.10181840

>>10165640
>Deleuze wrote his books with that overcomplicated style because his audience were other academics, people who could understand the text. To say it in another way: he literally didn't want brainlets to read him.
if you've actually read deleuze you'd know his claim is quite the opposite– although his style was incredibly overblown he thought his philosophy would be best digested by painters and musicians rather than by sterile academic lecturers (even though he still is paraded about by them).

>> No.10181855

>>10181799
That's not even controversial. And "class" as the pejorative you've been taught to think of it as is only a mechanism of social division 19th century jews used to atomize their European host nations. Class divisions are natural; the key here is that the aristocratic class no longer works in the interests of or with noblesse oblige toward those below them but for the international jewish system.

>> No.10181876

what about girard?