Matriarchal Society

[Anonymous No.10162732]

Ok, you'll hate me but do you know some good books with a matriarchal society?

[Anonymous No.10162894]

Why would I hate you? Women are interesting.

>The Kingdom of Women: Life, Love and Death in China's Hidden Mountains

[Anonymous No.10162937]

>>10162894

[Anonymous No.10162941]

One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest

[Anonymous No.10162995]

>>10162732
Thesmophoriazusae

[Anonymous No.10163000]

Ursula K. LeGuin writes decent feminist sci-fi.

>>10162941
an unexpected, but good, answer

[Anonymous No.10163006]

>>10162937
>He's not interested in women
Sounds pretty gay tbqh anon

[Anonymous No.10163020]

The last days of the british empire

[Anonymous No.10163048]

>>10163006
Look up white knight.

[Anonymous No.10163084]

>>10162941
To add to this and OP's request, are there any other books with a matriarchal society/social structure but where it's cruel and violent? I'm sick as shit of the "muh peaceful wise perfect matriarchy" trope. I want to read about the savagery in the hearts of women, because we already have so many books about the savagery in the hearts of men.

[Anonymous No.10163387]

>>10163048
>You have to be a white knight to be interested in women
/r9k/ plz go, women's suffrage was a mistake but that doesn't mean I don't have an implicit interest in them

[Anonymous No.10163417]

>>10163387
It was a joke about you saying you didn't hate women, not that you found them interesting. You might want to go to /r9k/ yourself.

[Anonymous No.10164139]

>>10162732
Assemblywomen.

[Anonymous No.10164195]

>>10162732
Dune Heretics. It is not very good but for different reasons other than wymyn.

[Anonymous No.10164568]

The Female Man by Joanna Russ

[Anonymous No.10164668]

>>10162732
It's fucking eerie seeing this webm posted. I just found a dvd of this movie the other day and remembered seeing it laying around as a kid. I was always curious because the title sounded lewd. So I put the dvd aside finally to watch it some time.

[Anonymous No.10164724]

>>10163417

[Anonymous No.10164755]

>>10163084
Women are only capable of certain kinds of savagery. Infanticide, murder, castration, child abuse, sure. Organizing a war party to raid an enemy village, not so much. It's also important to note that any matriarchal society wouldnt progress past the stone age. As in, as soon as you introduce agriculture, metallurgy, and other technological advancements, matriarchal societies break down or transition into patriarchies.

[Anonymous No.10164784]

how the fuck would men allow actual matriarchy anyway

[Anonymous No.10164848]

>>10162732
The Simulacra by Philip K Dick. Just finished it and not sure what to think desu. Worth a read at least though, especially since it's not very long and he's a good writer.

[Anonymous No.10164854]

- The Power, by Noemi Alderman
- The Ruins of Isis, by Marion Zimmer Bradley
- A Door Into Ocean, by Joan Slonczewski
- The Gate to Women's Country, by Shery Tepper

[Anonymous No.10165848]

>>10164784
So they could get pussy. Also, if there were a lot more women, then women could be the stronger sex since a few women being essentially incapacitated by pregnancy and maybe periods wouldn't be as big a deal

[Anonymous No.10165867]

Epic of Gilgamesh

[Anonymous No.10167265]

bump

[Anonymous No.10167737]

>>10165848
The only way I see this happening is eliminating physical utility completely

[Anonymous No.10168761]

Any other advice?

[Anonymous No.10168932]

>>10168761
a smart matriarchy would make the world believe patriarchy was the dominant social strategy.

[Anonymous No.10169190]

>>10162732
>Einstein was also a woman
Are there any good books about women (male)?

[Anonymous No.10169285]

>>10167737
Nice completely unfounded statement

[Anonymous No.10170385]

Maybe I'll open a new thread more related but do you know book about female soldiers?

[Tripped? No.10170635]

>>10162937
You must really hate women dude. I wish whoever traumatized you had just finished you off.

[Anonymous No.10170703]

Yeah, look into the following:

Bachofen
Mutterrecht (Bachofen's, but had a large following after him in esoteric circles, deep rabbit hole to follow)

Robert Graves' The White Goddess thesis, also present in his exegesis in The Greek Myths

Camille Paglia's Sexual Personae uses Freudian/Jungian depth psychology to discuss masculine/feminine impulses and their role in constructing civilization

Maria Gimbutas has something on it

[Anonymous No.10171160]

>>10170635
Nah, that's just you. Best of luck on the whole getting finished off thing, though.

[Anonymous No.10173014]

>>10162732
wheel of time

[Anonymous No.10173059]

Swedish history after 1970

[Anonymous No.10173063]

>>10164784
Because a matriarchy would be over-protection. A lot of manchildren not leaving mommy.

[Anonymous No.10173776]

Clonk Clonk from The Scorpion God by William Golding

[Anonymous No.10173796]

>>10162732
are you by any means polish female?? If so, go with me to a date :)

[Anonymous No.10173802]

>>10173796
>muh dick

[Anonymous No.10174144]

>>10173063
>implying not living under mommys protection and love for all your life is better

[Anonymous No.10174146]

>>10174144
t. mummykins

[Anonymous No.10174175]

>>10174144
Enjoy not going anywhere in life.

[Anonymous No.10174187]

>>10174175
Nobody goes anywhere anyway, we all die.

[Anonymous No.10174779]

>>10164755
>It's also important to note that any matriarchal society wouldnt progress past the stone age. As in, as soon as you introduce agriculture, metallurgy, and other technological advancements, matriarchal societies break down or transition into patriarchies.

elaborate

[Anonymous No.10174877]

>>10174187
Watch that edge

[Anonymous No.10176147]

The Passion of New Eve, by Angela Carter

[Anonymous No.10177246]

Herland by Charlotte Perkins Gillman.

Can't say it was good, per se, but it is a female utopia/dystopia.

>>10164755
Women are more afraid to die than men are. So they do less to risk their lives.

[Anonymous No.10177249]

>>10164784

Ask Sweden.

[Anonymous No.10177270]

>>10174877
You only warn me because you have already cut yourself upon it

[Anonymous No.10178414]

bump

[Anonymous No.10178435]

>>10177246
Women aren't simply designed to die like men are. Everything about men, from character traits, to body strength and the reproduction system is geared for fighting and eventually dying a violent death.

[Anonymous No.10178518]

>>10174779
Because once you have economic specialization and a centralized food production, men take powers into their own hands and the sexes become increasingly specialized. This has happened 100% of the time in all major societies on Earth.
At most, women will have some form of religious power, mostly dealing with childbirth and other domestic issues, but women as a whole will be confined to the home while men take all positions of governance.
There are many reasons for the separation of sexes, a major one being woman's ability to birth and nurture children, and man's natural inclination to technological matters.
Another major reason is that patriarchal societies will always defeat matriarchal societies in warfare, without exception.
As for the modern age, all the infrastructure and technology is created and maintained by men. You will not find many female sewer workers and construction workers. A matriarchal society might theoretically be able to co-opt male labor to keep the lights on, but too much female control would doom the whole venture of civilization anyways, so you'd just end up with either collapse or a patriarchy re establishing itself.
Another thing going against a matriarchy is that the women themselves would fight against it. It would destroy itself.
What it boils down to is that men have a few things going for them in terms of building a civilization: natural technological inclination, a tendency and capacity to focus on problem solving and concrete thinking, natural inclination to warfare, ability to work together in a hierarchal structure with great success, and a physically-oriented worldview that lends itself to many of the building blocks of civilization.
Women on the other hand are evolved to bear and raise children. This is a fact of nature. That isn't to say they aren't capable of leadership and achievement; but it is to say that they won't be as good as men at building a successful society.

[Anonymous No.10179031]

>>10162732
the new york times

[Anonymous No.10179155]

>>10162941
this but even more unironically

[Anonymous No.10179164]

>>10178518
>too much female control would doom the whole venture of civilization anyways, so you'd just end up with either collapse or a patriarchy re establishing itself

should i be hoarding beans?

[Anonymous No.10179189]

>>10162732
xena the warrior princess is a good book except it's on tv. It also take place in a patriarchal society. Sorry i can't really help u.

[Anonymous No.10180239]

>>10162732
Do the women in lit actually think they would be anything without the men in their lives?

[Anonymous No.10180243]

>>10162732

>4chan talks women
>it is immediately toxic and makes everyone a worse person, both the whiteknights and the reencels.

Every god damn time.

[Anonymous No.10180250]

>>10164755

That is both retarded and wrong

[Anonymous No.10180353]

>>10180243
I know right? We need to address the problem of toxic masculinity on 4chan
>>>/lgbt/
>>>reddit
get out

[Anonymous No.10180356]

>>10180353
>implying /lgbt/ isnt also pretty misogynistic
Also fuck you

[Anonymous No.10180411]

>>10180356
>misogyny

[Anonymous No.10180593]

What's with all the misandry in this thread? I thought this was current year.

[Anonymous No.10180602]

>>10162937
>gene wilder meme in current year

[Anonymous No.10180614]

>>10180602
>not kickin it oldskool

[Anonymous No.10180645]

>>10162732
>some good books with a matriarchal society?
There is no such thing? Whenever there is a matriarchal society, it is because there is an agenda or its the authors fetish. If that society is the main society of the book than its collapsing or there to be a reason why it shit.
If you want it for fetish reasons pick up The Wise Man's Fear from The Kingkiller Chronicle

[Anonymous No.10180674]

>>10164755
matriarchal society is usually all about sitting back and using men so they would not be organizing war parties but would be torturing captured people (also I don't think you are generally correct about limits of savagery)

[Anonymous No.10180681]

>>10164784
they would be technologically dominated and indoctrinated

[Anonymous No.10180687]

>>10169190
I never read it but there is a book where Vlad the Impaler is a girl

[Anonymous No.10180693]

>>10174144
overbearing mothers can be more of a strain than a pleasure
>>10174187
so we clearly come and go

[Anonymous No.10180711]

>>10178518
first part is 100% true and the second part while biased, also has some truth to it. while there are exceptions to the rule, hard science would die in female hands. Its not doing much better in male hands (with brainless faggots supporting snake oil salesmen like musk) but we still have hope

[Anonymous No.10180719]

>>10180239
yes? even if you think you are nothing without a woman, there are members of each sex that feel complete and have the backbone to get what they want

[Anonymous No.10180726]

>>10180243
using word toxic nulls whatever you are trying to say.
>>10180356
I have been there, expected tumbler but turned out to be full of cool people.

[Anonymous No.10182380]

Well, I really like this kind of matriarchy.

https://www.xvideos.com/video10161225/jerky_girls_vol._101_-_allura_muscle_goddess
https://www.xvideos.com/video9903460/xvideos.com_0d515e36bfa77caddb7502a69e0dbe8e
https://www.xvideos.com/video25895319/twice_his_size_-_british_milf_ava_koxxx_handles_young_skinny_small_cock_boy
https://www.xvideos.com/video28060935/pervert_punishment_-_amazonian_stepmom_ava_koxxx_and_blonde_bombshell_leigh_darby
https://www.xvideos.com/video27613487/chica_de_tetas_gigantes_de_brunoymaria_follandose_a_un_pequenin_pollon
https://www.xvideos.com/video21278519/vl_720_897k_47030572

[Anonymous No.10182511]

>>10168932
This
And this is how it happens in the west.

[Anonymous No.10182993]

>>10182380
cheers anon, this stuff is great

[Anonymous No.10184544]

What do you think of Marion Zimmer Bradley's works?

[Anonymous No.10184552]

>>10180726
>using word toxic nulls whatever you are trying to say.

I posit this thread must now be deleted because nulling whatever he was trying to say is dividing by zero.

[Anonymous No.10185745]

No, seriously, have you read the Avalon Saga by Marion Zimmer Bradley?