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Anyone had a crack at Ron Chernow's Ulysses S. Grant biography?

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Pic related was surprisingly gripping.

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>>10162697
Is it an actual biography though or incessant "HE WUZ DA GREYTEST" late capitalist cockslobbering?

>> No.10162710

>>10162507
Shit I'm so fucking interested in this. Caro wrote pretty glowingly of Chernow and I'm hugely interested in Grant. His autobiography is one of my favorites.

Bumping if anyone's read it.

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Goldsworthy is always worth a read

>> No.10164152

well no because chernow is not a historian and he writes semi accurate hagiography.

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>> No.10164162

>>10162507
>reading about Burgerstanis
christ no

>> No.10164305

>>10164159

Certainly one of the best I've read. Burton was the tits.

>> No.10164327

>>10162507
I haven't, and don't intend to. Chernow's "Hamilton" - which I read pre Lin Manuel Miranda - was underwhelming to be quite honest. He is a better journalist/periodical contributor (at which he is good) than he is a biographer (at which he is essentially a second-rate McCullough, and McCullough isn't exactly setting the world on fire himself).

Besides, I prefer a drunken Grant anyways.

>> No.10164420

>>10163745
This seems like a good read after SPQR by Mary beard. . What do you think

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>>10164420
Go for it.

>> No.10165404

>>10164327
Chernow's biography on Hamilton had no business being 800+ pages long. His book on Washington was very well done IMO, but writing an interesting book on Washington is much easier considering how much he accomplished during his life.

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>reading biographies

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Ben Franklin getting bitches

>> No.10167635

Carlo Natali - Aristotle

>> No.10167683

Obligatory

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>> No.10167689

>>10162710
I reaad the biography of Grant by Ronald White and it was quite good. It's also probably much shorter and well written than Chernow.

>> No.10168791

>>10164420
Except that SPQR by Mary beard is an awful read.

>> No.10169471

>>10168791
Except that it's not and you're a racist FUCK

>>>/pol/

>> No.10169483

>>10169471
Go back to /pol/ yourself, you fuckwad.

>> No.10169731

Not good. Overlays a modern social construct onto a subject it's frankly not relevent to.

J.F.C Fuller is a much better biographer

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>> No.10171016

>>10170988
This actually good? I aw it came out the other day and I wa wondering about it.

>> No.10171144

>>10166213
Is this a joke?
>Genre: Historical Fiction

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>> No.10173961

Just read Grant's autobiography, Chernow can neother write nor think

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>> No.10176821

>>10164159
Yeah, this is a good one. Picked it up for about $3 at a used shop back when reading the 2vol Dover edition of his two most famous journeys. Not easy reading, but worth the time.

>> No.10176823

>>10166213
Good-bye to all That however is fine.