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>tfw I like fascism

Books for this feel?

>> No.10145459

>>10145454
the ego and it's own by max stirner

>> No.10145463

>>10145459
>>10145454
fuck off both of you

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>>10145454

>> No.10145564

>>10145556
Yes, yes you are. Don't blame OP for your woes, though.

>> No.10145570

"Ur-Fascism" by Umberto Eco is a good, short read.

>> No.10145578

>>10145570
No it's not

Three Faces of Fascism: Action Française, Italian Fascism, National Socialism by Ernst Nolte

>> No.10145599

>>10145564
>this qualifies as """humor""" for a rightist
L M A O

>> No.10145638

>>10145578
If you believe AF is a fascist movement your brain is made of pudding.

You might as well have recommended a book called "OBAMA: Kenyan ISLAMOFASCIST".

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>>10145454

>> No.10145652

>>10145644
>this qualifies as """a witty retort""" for a rightist
L M A O

>> No.10145679
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>>10145454
Yes:

The Mass Psychology of Fascism, by Wilhelm Reich

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>>10145638

>> No.10145685

>>10145570
Seconded

>> No.10145692

>>10145679
>(((Reich)))
>"""psychoanalysis"""

>> No.10145697

>>10145454
Giovanni Gentile was the "philosopher of fascism". Read his works.

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>>10145648
I love the stupidity of /pol/ in how a republican (more socially hard with authority) goes to libertarian (more socially soft with authority) to then Fascist just cause their propaganda says so.

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>>10145726
>muh pole
grow up, commie

>> No.10145752

>>10145749
>everybody who disagrees with me is a communist

>> No.10145755

>>10145752
On /lit/ usually, yes.

>> No.10145756

>>10145726
well that's because a lot of the board goes down that route
not because that's inherently the case, it's just a pattern on the board

>> No.10145757

>>10145749
you're probably the same /pol/tard of the other thread. idk if you're trying to hide the fact that people recognize you or you're just shitposting. either way /pol/ gets hated for not minding it's own business outside of my board.

>> No.10145763

>>10145757
>there is only one other thread on /lit/
>my board
Kek

>> No.10145765

>>10145755
no. gtfo /pol/

>> No.10145770

>>10145726
It's more "generic conservative" than anything hard - "i like the way things are atm" etc

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>>10145765

>> No.10145778

>>10145771
k

>> No.10145779

>>10145771
>this from the guy who thinks everyone he doesn't like is a communist

>> No.10145790

>>10145779
>everyone on /lit/ is the same person

>> No.10145815

>>10145648
Stage 5: Anarcho-primitivism

>> No.10145818

>>10145771
Are you saying that you don't visit and/or generally agree with /pol/?

>> No.10145835

>>10145815
Go back to nature yourself, Rousseau.

>> No.10145863

>bugs...
>I don't know
>my diary desu
>I like anime
>tfw I like [insert ideology]
/lit/ has the worst memes

>> No.10145883

Sudoku for dummies

>> No.10145886

>>10145454
>fascism
>books
pick one my man

>> No.10145910

>>10145454
ride the tiger

>> No.10145917

>>10145648
there's a bluepill edition of this /r/ing

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>>10145692
>(((Reich)))

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>>10145454
Evola, establishing a dichotomy between two worlds (Traditional v Modern) is the ultimate stepping stone to third eye fascist awakening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YqKf3v2aPs

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>>10145749
But I only browse 4chan, I find /pol/ hilarious at times, and I think Xavier Renegade Angel is superior to rick and morty

and yet
I am still a Liftist

>> No.10145947

>>10145726
Pol doesn't have any ideology. It's just about shocking the normies and holding the most contrarian opinions about everything. Right now normies think there is nothing more evil than being a fascist so naturally pol embraces fascism.

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>>10145459
>unironically reading that retard

>> No.10145958

>>10145459
This couldn't be more antithetical to fascism, you fucking moron

>> No.10145959

>>10145648
>>10145749
>>10145755
>>10145771
This is why there can't be good threads on fascist literature

>>10145863
my diary is a classic and most boards have some variant of it
the rest are shitty forced memes that most other boards also have

if you want to see shitty memes go to /his/, it doesn't get more plebbit than that

>> No.10145964

>>10145947
>>10145726
>le contrarian meme
No, /pol/ is simply a free speech political discussion board, and so the views that are able to hold prominence there are those which can withstand constant criticism from every angle.

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>> No.10145978

>>10145973
>no argument to be found
/pol/ is by definition a free speech board.
Name some supposedly /pol/ views that aren't true. I'll wait.

>> No.10145980

>>10145964
>/pol/ is simply a free speech political discussion board
>so the views that are able to hold prominence there are those which can withstand constant criticism from every angle
The whole point of pol is that it's an anon board, so you can post things that are flat out wrong without facing even the slightest of consequence. It's a backup plan for people who were rejected by their peers.

>> No.10145990

>>10145959
>This is why there can't be good threads on fascist literature
No, it's due to anybody disagreeing with it simply coming in and shilling against it rather than discussing it. Many on /lit/ have claimed to be communists--this is all quite funny considering neither fascism nor communism stand any real chance of major political success in the West today.

>> No.10145991

>>10145980
>so you can post things that are flat out wrong without facing even the slightest of consequence
Personal consequences aren't relevant to the discussions there. Incorrect views expressed there will be countered by other arguments, however. Those with the best arguments can withstand all counter-arguments.

>It's a backup plan for people who were rejected by their peers.
This is irrelevant and conjecture.

>> No.10145996

>>10145964
lol

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>> No.10146005

13 ways to kill yourself as painfully as possible

by Tonya Tonka

>> No.10146006

>>10145991
>Personal consequences aren't relevant to the discussions there.
Which is tantamount to saying that you can be as wrong as you like. Peer review without consequence and selection is not legitimate peer review. If your arguments really held water, then they'd hold water in places where there were actual risks to be had. The way you're using the word "withstand" is completely meaningless. There's nothing to be withstood, there's no danger, you can make up as much bullshit as you like and get away with it. So as I said, it's a backup plan for people who were rejected by their peers.

>> No.10146020

>>10145990
It's interesting to read about different ideologies even without agreeing with them
I agree the problem stems from people who disagree coming and shitting up the thread, but desu this applies to both extremes on the spectrum

>>10145978
What makes /pol/ more "free speech" than any other board? If you give me a meme answer I'm not feeding a (You)

>> No.10146025

>>10145682
AF is unapologetically royalist--that's the whole point. Just because they hated Dreyfus and many members were collaborators doesn't mean they're fascist.

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>>10145454
It's time to read Gramsci, my friend.
Work for humanity, not against it.

>> No.10146053

>>10146020
i get banned from /pol/ all the time.... not even for posting porn. I just highlight how terrible contemporary western culture is.

joking about endemic russian shills gets you banned too.

also if you float the idea that "archive.is" is a honeypot ran by mi6, mossad and the NSA you get banned.

total echochamber

>> No.10146057

The Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald!

>> No.10146062

>>10145454
mosley - my life

>> No.10146068

>>10146053
proofs? also can you elaborate on how you highlighting how terrible contemporary western culture is got you banned? since most of /pol/ would seemingly agree with your assessment

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>> No.10146105

>>10145964
>free speech is somehow a dialectical process that automatically produces the best political position
First, for this to be true you would need said freedom of speech to be exercised free of rhetoric. On /pol/, this is completely untrue. They manipulate, misinterpret, generalize, cherrypick constantly in order to make their point. Think of the "fags are more likely to become mentally ill" meme: /pol/ interprets this "mental illness is inherent to being gay". They don't even know about basic correlation/causation stuff and the problem of induction.
Second, you would need the vast majority of participants to have a decent level of expertise on the topic at hand. Imagine this scenario: a couple of hundreds of masons organize a meeting in order to decide whether eggs are good for your health or not. This is /pol/: a bunch of uneducated morons talking about things they don't knoe anything about.
Third, you're completely ignoring how echochambering reinforces pre-existent cognitive biases (which goes back to my first point).
Fourth, if free speech were indeed a dialectical truth machine, as you presume, that would mean that the liberal democracy is indeed the best political system, since it has free speech and the vast majority of people who live under it don't want to abandon it.

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do you really like Fascism or do you just like Hugo Boss?

This isn't an arbitrary question, this distinction SAVES LIVES!

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>>10145648
this unironically happened to me after the last 3 years of current events, learning more history, and reading more books

>> No.10146114
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Kreisler was shaving himself, one eye fixed upon Paris. It beat upon this wall of Paris drearily... The late spring sunshine flooded, like a burst tepid star, the pink boulevard: beneath, the black-suited burgesses of Paris crawled like wounded insects hither and thither... Imagining yourself in some primitive necropolis, the portraits of the deceased covering the holes in which they had respectively been thrust, you would, pursuing your fancy, have seen in Kreisler a devout recluse who had taken up his quarters in this rock-hewn death-house.

>> No.10146130

>>10146105
Homossexual people do are more likely to display personality disorders and mental illnesses

>basic correlation/causation
fuck off to reddit

>> No.10146150

>>10146130
Q.E.D.

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>>10145454
>Origin and Doctrine of Fascism
>For My Legionaries
>Imperium

>> No.10146165

>>10146033
The concept of "humanity" was never stable or meaningful to begin with. I'm glad we're witnessing its total breakdown.

>> No.10146177

>>10146150
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/185/6/479.short
>Of the 1285 gay, lesbian and bisexual respondents who took part, 556 (43%) had mental disorder as defined by the revised Clinical Interview Schedule (CIS - R). Out of the whole sample, 361 (31%) had attempted suicide.

http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2003-01069-008
>Results indicate that gay-bisexual men evidenced higher prevalence of depression, panic attacks, and psychological distress than heterosexual men. Lesbian-bisexual women showed greater prevalence of generalized anxiety disorder than heterosexual women. Services use was more frequent among those of minority sexual orientation. Findings support the existence of sexual orientation differences in patterns of morbidity and treatment use.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/12/lgbt-mental-health-sexuality-gender-identity

But yeah, keep talking about cognitive biases, the induction problem and so on, you delusional redditor

>> No.10146191

>>10146177
Dude, I'm not saying that fags aren't more prone to contract mental illness. Can you read?
>/pol/ is le free speech utopia but if u disagree with me you are reddit and u need to go back
q.e.d. again. I bet you also have a lot of infographics on niggers and IQ.

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>>10145958
read it dude, good book, long dick.

>> No.10147219

>>10145991
>Personal consequences aren't relevant to the discussions there. Incorrect views expressed there will be countered by other arguments, however. Those with the best arguments can withstand all counter-arguments.
>he thinks /pol/acks care for truth rather than fall for sophistry

>> No.10147222

>>10146165
>The concept of "humanity" was never stable or meaningful to begin with.

Pedantry, we both know what humanity is. If you want to work against it, own it.

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>tfw liberal democracy + capitalism is the most successful form of human organization and there's NOTHING pinkos and fashies can do about it

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>>10145958
that's the fucking joke absolute dimwit

>> No.10147258

>>10145933
Lmao how can leftists consistently appropiate and ruin memes

>> No.10147448

>>10146025
Read the book you cuckslave, you might actually learn something.

>> No.10147612

Why dont you read Raspail's camp of the saints.
Bannon often masturbates to that book.

>> No.10147662

>>10147241
>most successful form of human organisation
>is literally imploding as we speak

>> No.10147678

>>10145958
Egoism and fascism can get along perfectly well if the individual's interests match up with the state.

>> No.10147698

>>10147241
Hunter-gatherer band living has a couple of millions year track record for hominids and is still practised successfully.

Universal suffrage democracy is 124 years old and already going down the drain.

Feudalism also has a better track record than democracy, as do empires.

Democracy is a bit of a meme.

>> No.10147701

>>10145863
Holy... I want more

>> No.10147721

>>10146109
Both

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PUNCH A NAZI

>> No.10148081

>>10148028
Your just as bad as the actual Nazis you little shit

>> No.10148087
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>>10148081
>actual Nazis
>2017

>> No.10148091

>>10148028
A nazi in this case being anyone who disagrees with antifa

>> No.10148103

>>10148091
antifa in this case anyone being who disagrees with nazis

>> No.10148106

>>10148103
But what about people who disagree with both?

>> No.10148136

>>10148081

>get randomly attacked while walking downtown one night
>start fighting back
>bystanders start yelling at me "wow, you're just as bad as your attacker now!"

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>>10145726
Your linear understanding of the difference between Conservatives and Libertarians is juvenile. There is no such thing as the "Social Axis", or if there is, it only refers to feelings on specific policies, like drugs. Whats more important is the fundamental issue of what "Liberty" is; in both the Conservative and Libertarian worldview, liberty is simply the transfer of powers from the State to corporations, whom individuals may theoretically (but not practically) freely choose to associate with. Once the Libertarian has accepted that these power dynamics exist and begin to embrace them, they can then begin to shift their ideas on authority to the "Social Axis", or vice versa. From here, the jump to Fascism should be obvious.

>> No.10148160

>>10145454
This guy reads a lot of fascist books, check out what he reads and likes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_CTdqJhyUI&t

>> No.10148162

>>10145454
>Fascism
Giving up your freedom to big brother government is fucking sad. I can't believe you sissies have the gall to call other people cucks.

>> No.10148209

Just become a degenerate Accelerationist

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>>10148106
le radical centrist meme

>> No.10148559

>>10145454
Conversations in Sicily ; )

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>>10145648
>5. Unironic exterminationist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJdjAAin1Fo

>> No.10148797

>>10145958
Stirner's Egoism can go with anything you dumb cunt, it transcends notions like antithesis.

>> No.10148801

>>10147258
Are you seriously complaining about appropriation.

Remind me where the swastika comes from

>> No.10148822

>>10147222
>dude it's common knowledge even though I can't define it so there are probably fundamental differences in what it means to different people

>> No.10148829

>>10148028
I'd bash the fash for this cutie ;)

>> No.10148836

Daily reminder that fascism will never ever ever ever ever ever ever work.

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>tfw i love best emma

Images for this feel?

>> No.10148847

>>10145964
/pol/ is a circlejerk for bitter asocial retards who agree that jews, blacks, and feminism is why they're romantic and professional failures.

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>>10148548
>>10148106

>> No.10148862

>>10148091
>I define what I don't like
>I bash what I don't like

I don't see a problem with this.

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>>10148843
Don't spend it all in one place

>> No.10148880

>>10148160

>bookshelves packed with fashy books, black dude, listening to mozart

you find something new every day

>> No.10148941

>>10145454
>not a single post about this lady

but this image is so fuckin weird, and she is too. she nails the archetype of feminine vacuity with such creepy perfection. it disturbs me man. MAKE A FUCKIN FACIAL EXPRESSION BITCH. STOP BEIN LIKE THAT IT'S FUCKIN PERTURBING AF

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>>10145964
>and so the views that are able to hold prominence there are those which can *disregard* constant criticism from every angle.

ftfy

>> No.10148949

>>10148941
like this bitch is 1000-5000 times sexier than some baboon slut slapping her ass to me. she is as neutral and ready for life as a fucking patch of fresh earth.

Literally impotence-curing tier sexiness. Like you want to fuck her if only to imbue her world with some kind of inflection in any direction

>> No.10148958

>>10148880
His hand looks pretty white to me.

>> No.10148970

>>10145648
The one with hoppe at the end is the onyl correct one

>> No.10148989

>>10148836
The Germans seem to like it.

>> No.10149016

>>10145863
don't forget the absolutely hilarious james joyce fart jokes, or the goof of Mr. Pynchon.

>> No.10149047

>>10145755
Truth

>> No.10149102

>>10148941
t. future rapist

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>>10145964
>No, /pol/ is simply a-
oh boy you're sure indoctrinated

>> No.10149340

>>10148822
Welcome to the real world. Virtually nothing can be defined, humans act according to their intuition. If I say "humanity" I know for a fact you know what I'm talking about. As I've said, this is mere pedantry. Stop rejecting the logos in such an arbitrary manner.

>> No.10149400

>>10149340
Maybe you act according to your intuition, others have more capabilities and act according to their reason

>I know for a fact you know what I'm talking about
Wow anon, that's some nice telepathy you've got going on there

>acknowledging fundamental differences in the connotation and even denotation of a word is an arbitrary rejection of the logos

>> No.10149407

>>10149400
>Maybe you act according to your intuition, others have more capabilities and act according to their reason
I guess you haven't thought that much about what is reason.

>>acknowledging fundamental differences in the connotation and even denotation of a word is an arbitrary rejection of the logos
Again, a cop out. Do I have to remind you that you're using these semantic arguments to disprove the sentence "Work for humanity, not against it"? At first you claim the superiority of reason, then you accept misandry out of your inability to define a word that you clearly understand.
You're not being neutral, you're instead taking a very specific stance on this matter. Own it.

>> No.10149425

>>10149407
Reason is logical deductions, intuition is at best a tiny element of reason

The meaning of words is fucking fundamental to any discussions related to those words
You're not talking to one person, I entered the discussion by saying your unfounded concept of common knowledge for subjective knowledge is pretty retarded

>> No.10149438

>>10145454
The History of Rome by Titus Livius

>> No.10149468

>>10147241
T. fukuyama

>> No.10149520

>>10149425
>Reason is logical deductions, intuition is at best a tiny element of reason

Wow, you're basically a child. Imagine being this naive.

>> No.10149530

>>10149520
Peak not an argument

>> No.10149536

>>10148028
I'd tongue punch her fartbox

>> No.10149559

>>10148880
It's a tattoo.

>> No.10149614

>>10145933
>misusing the virgin/chad meme this hard

Chad isn't supposed to be good, he supposed to be absurdly horrible in the opposite direction of the virgin. This is anti-intellectual garbage memeing

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>>10149520

>> No.10150231

>>10145980
>the chance of having your life ruined by disagreeing with the status quo really cultivates honest truth seeking

>> No.10150448

>>10146076
Hey, I saw about a million of these in my uni bookstore. Are they any good? I feel like I'd also need to pick up the communism one as well, just so the checkout girl doesn't think I'm a fascist

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>>10149614
It's my meme now. I do what I want. Try to stop me bitch.

>> No.10150639

>>10150578
nietzsche seems like the type to write essays on rapgenius about 90s hiphop being superior while stirner would get turnt to lil pump at house parties

>> No.10151754

>>10150639
this got me convinced to read Stirner

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>>10145933
>commie
>sexual freedom

>> No.10151921

>>10150578
low effort as fuck

>> No.10151926

>>10151878
explain

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>>10150448

>university students are so busy being brainwashed that they don't have time to read a long introduction

>> No.10152182

>>10149102
tumblr pls go

>> No.10152264

>>10145454
Fascism for the Millions is an unironically decent political manifesto from the British Union.

>> No.10152270

>>10145964
KEK

>> No.10152356

>>10145973
>emoji
I cant believe /lit/ has fallen this low

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>>10152356
>doesn't meme post-ironically

get with the time, gramps

>> No.10152933

>>10145454
Any history book.

>> No.10153448

>>10145964
All the salt bc they know you're right. Lmao they can't hold up any of this horse shit on pol and they've tried. Lmao

>> No.10153451

who /lit+pol/ here?

DEUS VAULT

>> No.10153477

>>10145454
D'Annunzio

>> No.10153582

>>10145726
>Dumb anti-/pol/ newfag misses the point entirely
That image is speaking about the amount of thought a "right wing" person puts into their politics. Obviously the generic conservative puts the least amount of thought into their politics, what with conservatism being the mainstream "default" choice. The libertarian then sees that the mainstream conservative is unable to actually conserve anything and thus concludes that voluntary association and such policies is the way to preserving culture. The fascist then says that the libertarian's policies simply aren't enough, that the cancer cannot be quarantined, only purged.The traditionalist finishes by saying that the rot only set into the culture due to the very modernist beliefs that the former 3 people subscribe to.

>> No.10153584

>>10145959
>if you want to see shitty memes go to /his/, it doesn't get more plebbit than that
Thank you, not many anons seem aware of the cancer that is /his/. Truly a shittier version of /pol/ and /lit/ both. Historical discussion was 10 times better when it was discussed on these boards

>> No.10153587

>>10145454
poorly written you don't deserve to read fascist books

>> No.10153592

>>10153451
Sieg Heil

>> No.10153595

>>10145726
that's some poor understanding of libertarianism read some rothbard or hoppe

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>>10152417

>> No.10153777

>>10145990
>this is all quite funny considering neither fascism nor communism stand any real chance of major political success in the West today.
someone hasn't been paying much attention

>> No.10153788

>>10148028
sounds pretty toxic and gender conformist desu senpai

>> No.10153796

>>10145964
>No, /pol/ is simply a free speech political discussion board, and so the views that are able to hold prominence there are those which can withstand constant criticism from every angle.
kek

>> No.10153832

>>10145578
Heard a lot about it , can you hook me up with a digital copy of this ??

>> No.10153936

>>10147222
Your definition carries far too much baggage for it to ever be meaningful. I'll gladly admit my desire to work against the fictions of the postwar international system.

>> No.10153961

>>10145454
all quiet on the western front

>> No.10153963

>>10153777
Go on. Note: muh blumpf is not an answer. Trump hasn't made any seizure of absolute power. And he's not much of a Nazi if he's tied up with Jews.

>> No.10153985

>>10145964
ya gotta go back

>> No.10154779

>>10145964
not a single argument against this post. good shit.

>> No.10154788

>>10145454
Whatever books your high school teacher assigns I guess ?

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I bet none of these triggered faggots even know what fascism is, topkek.

If you haven't read Joseph De Maistre yet, go ahead and do that. Then there is Gustave Le Bon, Georges Sorel, Evola, Ezra Pound, For My Legionnaires, Camp of the Saints, Oswald Spengler, Yukio Mishima, and a lot more.

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>>10145933

>> No.10154868

>>10151926
He's talking about the fact that leftists have a history of hating faggots. Only ancoms and the nu-left like faggots.

>> No.10154882

>>10154845
Daily reminder that fascism will never ever ever ever ever ever work.

>> No.10154884

>>10145454
>Decline of the West
>Ride the Tiger
Not explicitly fashy
>Doctrines of Fascism
>Tomorrow We Live
Manifestos of the NFP and BUF
>Rules for Radicals
>On Heroes, Hero-Worship, and the Heroic in History
Books I like :^)

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>>10154882
>Fascism will never work
>This article I read by the Mises Institute says so!
>Anyways, I'm going back to cry in my bomb shelter waiting for the next economic collapse Austrianfags predict every other month

>> No.10154933

>>10154913
lol

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>>10154845
>I bet u don't kno
>can't provide a concise definition, only thousands of pages in ideology training recommendations

Fascism is a faux-populist merger of state power and private capital to enforce ethnonationalism. It's a desperate attempt to hold onto the remnants of Feudalism that managed to live on under Capitalism. It is a sad ideology that, like Communism, imagines itself as enforceable in a dynamic and ever-changing world of shifting international relations when it most certainly is not.

>> No.10154979

>>10154947
Fascism is a reactionary populist movement that promotes class unity among a certain geographic area based on ethnic , religious, historical, or linguistic similarities.

>Feudalism
Hardly. Most fascist economies are mixtures between syndicalism and keynsianism organized around a society akin to Plato's Republic
>Capitalism is well suited to international relations
*Cough* boxer's rebellion *cough*

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>>10152356
are you new?

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>>10154947
Of course that's your contention. You're a first year grad student. You just got finished some Marxian historian, Pete Garrison prob’ly, you’re gonna be convinced of that until next month when you get to James Lemon, then you’re gonna be talkin’ about how the economies of Virginia and Pennsylvania were entrepreneurial and capitalist way back in 1740. That's gonna last until next year, you’re gonna be in here regurgitating Gordon Wood, talkin’ about you know, the Pre-revolutionary utopia and the capital-forming effects of military mobilization.

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>>10154979
I wasn't implying that Capitalism is well suited to international relations, only that Fascism and Communism aren't.

Fascism might be populist in theory, but it hasn't been in practice. Most Fascist governments paid lip service to nationalism and regional interests but needed the international military industrial complex to fuel their political agenda.

>> No.10154997

>>10154988
Zzzz

Your assumptions of my lifestyle and traits do not amount to a convincing argument, though I am vaguely pleased with your cutesy Good Will Hunting meme.

>> No.10155002

Not really fascism but you'd enjoy Democracy: The God That Failed by Hoppe

>> No.10155009

>>10147241
Nice hypothesis you got there
would be a shame if someone scrutinized it

>> No.10155014

>>10147241
tfw You can't think of a single place on earth that's experiencing a liberal democracy while being capitalist.

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>>10154987
No he's old and experience culture shock at coming back

>> No.10155026

>>10154990
>Fascism engaged in the international military industrial complex
Actually they literally promoted the creation of their own military industrial complex. Another tenant of fascism is extreme economic protectionism to the point where it is borderline autarky, which is one of the main disputes Hjalmack Schacht had with other natsoc economists before he left the party.

Class cooperation is the key phrase in fascism, if you've ever seen that political cartoon of Hitler with where has two signs that puts stress on the NATIONALIST vs SOCIALIST parts of the name, you should understand how ridiculous that cartoon is. Fascism is meant to appeal to all classes which is meant to find a pragmatic solution for class conflict that isn't Marxist revolution or democracy being hijacked by Oligarchy.

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>>10149340

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What reaches the heart without going through the mind is likely to bounce back and put the mind out of business. Propaganda taken in that way is like a drug you do not know you are swallowing. The effect is mysterious. You do not know afterwards why you feel or think the way you do.

>> No.10155331

>>10146177
>Out of the whole sample, 361 (31%) had attempted suicide.
> higher prevalence of depression, panic attacks, and psychological distress
>greater prevalence of generalized anxiety disorder
Do you honestly fail to see how all of those situations can very easily stem from social prosecution? I mean, I have a cousin who tried to kill himself after his parents found out he was gay and his dad spanked him and kicked him out of his house. You have to be extremely dishonest to claim there is some sort of genetic imperative acting here considering how society treats gay people.

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>>10155331

Not him, but where is this supposed persecution? It seems like society bends over backwards to make them feel "included."

>> No.10155381

>>10155359
I just literally told of a relative who tried to kill himself because he was kicked out of his fucking house (and this isn't anedotic, that sort of situation is common enough) and yet you refuse to listen.

>> No.10155412

>>10155331
Do you fail to see how all of those situations come from the fact that they were molested?

>> No.10155418

>>10155381

>and this isn't anedotic, that sort of situation is common enough

That's not how you spell "anecdotal" and no, I won't listen to you until you produce some evidence of significant persecution.

>> No.10155421

>>10155412
I actually agree with you, unless you're implying everyone who's gay has been SEXUALLY molested, that's just surreal.

>>10155418
I'm not russian but it's literally illegal to be gay there.

>> No.10155435

>>10155421

Do those mental illness statistics come from Russia?

>> No.10155475

>>10155421
Not every single one, no. But the ones that weren't had sheltered childhoods with gay experimentation.

A story as old as time...

Homosexuality isn't real. It's just a behavior. An atypical one, brought on by unusual circumstance.
Social repression, molestation, etc.

Normal? No.
Should it be accepted, yes, as in legal, but never glorified.

>> No.10155528

>>10155435
Well, the statistics you posted are also 10 year old, and gay rights pretty much everywhere were in a different spot 10 years ago, so why do they count?

>> No.10155535

>>10153963
Britain is going to be a caliphate its only a matter of time now

>> No.10155553

>>10155535
London will. Most of the rest of England is extremely white.

>> No.10155557

>>10145454
Julius Evola: Revolt Against the Modern World
Cornelius Codreanu: For my Legionaires
Tomislav Sunic: Against Democracy and Equality
Georges Sorel: Reflections on Violence
Oswold Mosely: The Alternative
Thomas Carlyle: On Heroes and Hero Worship
Douglas Murray: The Strange Death of Europe
TS Eliott: The Wasteland
Ezra Pound: The Cantos

>> No.10155563

>>10154990
True Fascism wasn't populist, it was elitist. It was about defence of hierarchy, and setting up an elite of superior citizens with the right to rule

>> No.10155568

>>10155563
And uniting the populace under aristocratic ideals of self improvement and unity through national action...

>> No.10155576

>>10155553
not for long as democracy is a demographics game if one group has more children than the other they can quickly take more and more power every generation

>> No.10155596

>>10155421
>I'm not russian but it's literally illegal to be gay there.
I am russian, and this is untrue.

>> No.10155615

>>10155421
incorrect you are just not allowed to promote homosexuality or transgenderism

>> No.10155627

>>10155568
This lad gets it!

>> No.10155631

>>10149340
i literally have no clue what you mean when you say "humanity"

>> No.10155641

>>10155576
It's more complex than that. London will fall and suck mud people from elsewhere in, but these arabs and africans can only "take over" so much; they are completely dysfunctional and will run everything into the ground. The situation revolves around the will of the English to remove the jews empowering the muds and bringing them in. With the will to do that, which will take a long time, the English could retake their country and send people back in relative short order.

>> No.10155765

>>10148136
I know you're a pussy but wearing a swastika is not a provocation.

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>>10155563
proper hierarchy benefits all, that's the real burgundy pill

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>>10146053
Nice fan fiction

>> No.10155825

>>10148801
Pagan Europe

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>>10153451
Tfw none of these commies will be spared

>> No.10155883

>>10154882
>Fashism will never work
>That wasn't real communism
Lit isn't for brainlits sweetie

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>>10148028

What if I punch myself, would that count?

>> No.10155913

its 1939
do you fight for your country or fight with the nazis?

>> No.10155993

>>10155860
I can't believe this. How could equatorial guinea function if the average of it's population is borderline retarded? Those results have to be biased or skewed in some way or another.

>> No.10156001

>>10155993
It depends on how you define function. Also, IQ and being able to survive aren't necessarily correlated. If you live in the seasonless tropics where you can pick shit off trees all year round survival doesn't require planning and high level cooperation and problem solving and such.

>> No.10156027

>>10145980
Interesting take, but you can be anonymous in every other board, you dummy.

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>>10155993
Have you ever read or seen anything about Equitorial Guinea, it doesn't function at all like the rest of sub seherian Africa.

The minority of the population being literally retarded is a pretty good explanation for the non functioning state of africa

>> No.10156317

>>10156309
*majority of the population

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>>10155563
pic seems pretty populist to me.

>> No.10156517

>>10156309
/pol/ tier garbage

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>>10156517
Oh look, an anti-science leftist who stumbled in from reddit.

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>>10156517
/fitlitpol/ is the patrician's trifecta

>> No.10156545

>>10156309
>seherian

And you're supposed to be smarter than Guineans yes?

>> No.10156547

>>10155883
>if you hate Nazis you're literally a Commie and vice versa

Golly, really made my almonds work there, pal.

>> No.10156553

>>10155883
>fashism

Oh my. You don't even know what your own ideology is spelled.

>> No.10156558

>>10156553
spelled like*

>> No.10156564

>>10156553
>>10156558
Lol what a fail.

>> No.10156610

>>10148136
Besides for the guy who drove his car into protestors in Charlottesville, how many Nazis have been randomly attacking people lately?

Compare that to how many people Antifa have attacked lately.

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>tfw I like Irish Nationalism

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>>10147698
We should go back to feudalism.

>> No.10156949

>>10155913
Fighting with nazis would be fighting for America

>> No.10156955

>>10156755
Get the fuck out. You should be grateful that the British bought civilization to your island.

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>>10156564
If only

>> No.10156985

The Fourth Political Theory by Aleksandr Dugin

Dugin is a pretty fresh meme, get in before he has been read by everyone on here.

>> No.10156999

>>10156955
stay made, limey scum.

>> No.10157104

>>10155025
emoji posting has been on this board for at least 2 years now, it's a bit late to start complaining

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>>10156545
>>10156553
>Being so wrong you don't even address the arguments and attack the grammer
It's obvious that English isn't this anons first language

>> No.10157214

>>10157187
>grammer

TOP KEK

There's a difference between spelling mistakes and illiteracy you nigger.

>> No.10157216

>>10149614
>chad isn't supposed to be good
hahahaha hi virgin

>> No.10157243

Im a fascist OP.

You want Seige by James Mason and Mein Kamf adolf hitler

Both can only be truly understood with a hatred for marxism. If you are really fascist you will enjoy these

>> No.10157272

>>10157243
false flag

>> No.10157284

>>10157187
>>grammer
>anons
Hmm...

>> No.10157289

>>10149614 The virgin post.
>>10150578 The Chad threadwinner.

>> No.10157296

>>10149614
Memes will always degenerate towards the most simple concepts. You can't hold back the tide, anon.

>> No.10158596

>>10155641
Its not even that, all external factors can be solved in an evening if people self-affirm and stop being afraid of themselves. This is a collapse from within, People genuinely think if they express a normal healthy pride in themselves they are partaking in a genocide in their mind. They think if you do anything but obsess over weakness and victimhood you are somehow evil. They think their own culture is somehow uniquely barbaric and needs to be made redundant. All you need to do is fight this in your own mind and live by example, never hiding it

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>> No.10158616

>>10156511
apologies, im a stupid englandfag, can only understand "universal sufferage" and "proportional representation"

What is vogliamo?

In fairness the bit about forming a naitonal council for industry transport etc made up of the professions is elitist. Thats saying that the masters of each field should be in charge, under an overall leader.

I agree Mussolini used populism and was populist in many ways, but the core ideology I think is about heirachy. It was right wing populism, not the "muh equality" variety

>> No.10158620

>>10156553
No this is fashism, its all about wearing ze hottest designer clothes and being so on trend that everyone has to know about it!

Senior Nazis were v big into fashism

>> No.10158625

>>10156985
I've heard he's a member of a weird cult that wants to bring about the end of the world...

>> No.10158647

>>10158625
Nah, that's judaism.

>> No.10158854

>>10158620
Who was that retard that started talking about the Soviets and kept saying Commulists? Jesus Christ, whenever someone starts talking about SJWs all the retard alerts start going off

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>>10145454

Clifford Goes to Dog School and coloring books should suit you just fine.

>> No.10160183

>>10154849
disregarding politics, this one actually mirrors reality very accurately, lol.

>> No.10160371

/lit/ pls stop fighting i just want some books on fascism.

>> No.10160381

>>10145726
That's pretty close to the path I took. Political views don't progress linearly, sometimes you run into realizations that force you to rethink huge portions of your belief system.

>> No.10161295

>>10154849
that antifa description is bretty gud

>> No.10161319

>>10160371
>>10145454
Julius Evola

>> No.10161325

>>10148797
Fact.

>> No.10161343

>>10155993
>equatorial guinea
>function
Lad...
>>10156309
>Facts I don't like are muh pohul
>>10160371
There's some decent recs in this thread, it's just bogged down by the shitflinging contest.

>> No.10161738

>>10148836
>What is Spain, Germany, and Italy and probably a bunch of pseudo fascist countries im probably forgetting?
Inb4
>But Germany and Italy fell
Yeah that tends to happen when you are fighting a war against the rest of the civilised world.

>> No.10161741

>>10160371
>likes fascism
>doesn't like eternal struggle and conflict

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>>10148836
lyl

>> No.10163260

>>10145454
My diary desu

>> No.10163312

>actually being retarded enough to identify yourself with a political ideology

>> No.10164892

>>10145454
bump

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>>10161746

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>>10145454

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>>10145930
>>10154845
>>10155557
>>10161319
>his biggest inspiration is evola
>evola's boyfriend guenon is a mudslim

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>still hung up on race-based fascism
>not recognizing the superiority of mixed races
>not realizing that even if racial purity is desirable, it's impossible in the americas for obvious reasons and not happening in europe because of the living memory of nazism

It's *almost* like you guys are just LARPers who don't actually take political action outside of internet forums.

>> No.10166468

>>10166427
>the superiority of mixed races
Mongrels are a broken byproduct of a failing society.

Also, racial homogeneity is a natural state that will always reassert itself over time.

>> No.10166527

>>10166468
your logic only points to the necessity to shore up society first
then you can regain your "natural state" rather than flailing in the way perfectly designed to turn people away and despairing into the arms of finance-capital

>> No.10166588

>>10166468
Who says I discredit racial homogeneity? It will happen, but only after the acceleration of the process of miscegenation, which will ultimately erase the difference between the persons that constitute the people of the nation, creating a unique singular race which transcends the physiological limitations and the conflicting heterogeneity of a multi-racial state, thus facilitating the cultivation of a sentiment of community and identity, finally unifying the people and strengthening it thereby.

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>>10166427
>tfw plinio was the greatest hope this country has ever seen
>tfw vargas damned it all to hell
it hurts to be a macaco

>> No.10166613

>>10166588
Actually what ends up happening is you create new racial castes of people who will refuse to integrate into your society and permenantly fuck up an entire geographic area

>> No.10166745

>>10166468
Give me one people that isn't just a bunch of rape babies from some other people/race/ethnicity

>> No.10166752

>>10166745
The absolute majority of people. You know, the whole world wasn't subjected to the Spanish Caste system and breeding program after experiencing a massive plague like you fags, right?

>> No.10166825

>>10149614
>STOP!! YOU'RE USING MY MENES WRONGLY!!!! :'((((

>> No.10167117

>>10146177
You need to update, anon (2014) it's not jewish media I promise.
Suicide Attempts among Transgender and ...
https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjF_ay-0P3WAhWDOxoKHQI0CfoQFggqMAA&usg=AOvVaw1fJtp3v8cfWjNvC-ezhkkL
>yeah, Google link, because why not

>> No.10167139

>>10167117
so they are even more prone to mental illness and suicide attempts?

>> No.10167152

>>10149614
All propaganda is meant to be subverted

t. the one you responded to

>> No.10167154

>>10167139
Read the whole thing

>> No.10167164

>>10158596
>a normal healthy pride in themselves
But this is exactly the opposite of racial pride, since for that you'd have to be taking pride in other people and in phenomena external to you. You're dumb

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>>10154868
The Catholic church has a history of burning heretics. Look at them now.

The democrats have a history of lynching blacks. Look at them now.

The leftists have a history of being homophobes. Well? Keynes was right. There is a progressive curve visible through history. A tendency towards less violence, less exploitation, more acceptance. You can slow this down, and even wind back the clock a little, but you can never stop the general trend of it. Leftists largely aren't homophobes anymore. Communists aren't Castro anymore. They aren't Kim Il Sung. They're class-conscious Americans.

>> No.10167169

>>10166427
>even if racial purity is desirable, it's impossible in the americas for obvious reasons and not happening in europe because of the living memory of nazism
the sad truth desu.

>> No.10167191

>>10155825
Exactly. Pagans. The Nazis were Christians appropriating a Pagan meme.
Welcome to the water.

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>>10167169
You'll have your racial purity when everyone looks like Unsullied in 200 years, waiboi

>> No.10167215

>>10145958
despook yourself friend

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>>10156784
>Muh unsustainable Divine Right Theocracy
>Muh wincest
>Muh private sector owns everything and no secular government or regulation of private power
>Muh coronation ceremony
>Muh occasional schism where the one performing the coronation is seen as having more authority than the King
>Muh Crown vs. Church
>Muh all this plus modern technology
>Muh peasant rebellions
>Muh unenforcable mass exiles
>Muh familial squabbling
>Muh gaem of drones

Please not again

>> No.10167240

>>10167207
I don't care that much about race when it comes down to it but as a generalisation it works well to keep out the majority of undesirables.

Racism is a sloppy meme but in a lot of cases it does more good than harm, for example to make sure you don't invite the third world over for an indefinite welfare extravaganza.

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>>10157104
Tell that to him bub

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>>10167240
>, for example to make sure you don't invite the third world over for an indefinite welfare extravaganza.


Stale meme. Western imperialism both economic (postwar international UN-enforced trade policy) and militaristic (United States doing unilateral intervention without congressional or popular approval multiple times, with help from the British and French) created the conditions for floods of refugees from the third world. The USA props up dictatorships and overthrows them with equal zeal, so long as it enforces US hegemony and economic dependence by exploited vassals. You're clearly mad about muzzy terrorists, yet Western, conservative, Christian nations funnel billions to the Saudis and the Israelis and make the middle east a theocratic hellhole that people want to flee. Racism doesn't fix this, it just locks the refugees in with the extremists, and creates more extremists in the long run.

>> No.10167343

>>10167276
I'm all for leaving them the fuck alone but I'm certainly for keeping them out either way, in any way.

These people are not compatible with the modern world.