/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10125800]

What are some books about cultural decline?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GC5rAX0xHg

[Anonymous No.10125808]

Pretty much anything German written after 1890 and not by Habermas or a Jewish guy.

[Anonymous No.10125843]

The Frankfurts. Adorno's work explicitly tries to understand modern cultural decline

[Anonymous No.10125849]

>>10125843
those people are not listening to jazz. other than being wrong about that, adorno's pretty good. the dancing license fees in the US are probably a bigger contender for cultural decline in the era than jazz of any kind.

[Anonymous No.10125860]

>>10125843
The Frankfurt School's goal with the Critical Theory was to attack all deeply held beliefs of the people, and all their institutions and traditions (gender roles, the family unit, nationalism, ethnic loyalties, religion, collective heritage and history, etc.) to completely break down peoples and society from the inside.

Communism: Muh proletariat is being oppressed by capitalists! The relationship between employer and employee is fundamentally oppressive and therefore bad! The solution is to remove the hierarchy!

Critical Gender Theory: Muh women are oppressed by men! The patriarchy is fundamentally oppressive towards women and is bad! The solution is to remove this hierarchy!

Critical Race Theory: Muh minorities are being oppressed by whitey! White societies are fundamentally oppressive against this minority, which is bad! The solution is to remove this hierarchy!

[Anonymous No.10125874]

>>10125860
stale pasta

[Anonymous No.10125891]

>>10125800
Spengler is GOAT

[Anonymous No.10125929]

>>10125800
Is suicide a viable alternative to modernity?

[Anonymous No.10125938]

I don't like Rick and Morty, but its not that bad and its not that big of a deal. Why are 4channers making such a big deal about "le Rick and Morty fans". They're annoying, just like any other annoying fan base, but this is nothing new. There is nothing new under the sun.

[Anonymous No.10125946]

>>10125929
it is according to evola

[Anonymous No.10125954]

>>10125800
You'll find lots about the late Ottoman period or, if you're sincerely interested, the remnants of Chinese dynasties (though many of the old work have been purged, classics do still exist in English translation)

If you don't want to go back to pol could you at least try not to act like a total retard on every other board too

[Anonymous No.10126010]

Fuck capitalism. This is literally just ketchup and teriyaki sauce

[Anonymous No.10126016]

>>10125800
This is what we killed Christianity for

[Anonymous No.10126022]

[Anonymous No.10126026]

>>10126022
i could definitely see richard spencer watching brick and mortar

[Anonymous No.10126031]

>>10125808
The Frankfurt School constantly wrote about cultural decline though

[Anonymous No.10126059]

>>10126031
They are the ones who caused it

[Anonymous No.10126209]

>>10126059
Dude the west was gone past repair by the time Walter Benjamin picked up a pen

[Anonymous No.10126556]

>>10125800
http://deadline.com/2013/04/steven-soderbergh-state-of-cinema-address-486368/

[Anonymous No.10126594]

>>10125800
The best

[Anonymous No.10126606]

My diary desu.

[Anonymous No.10126638]

>>10125891
>>10126606
these

[Anonymous No.10126656]

Your economic future is doomed.
>hmmm
Your education is worthless.
>lel
The socio-political climate is pure cancer.
>kek
Islamofascism is breathing on your neck
>nah
Famdom retards being retards.
>OMFG CIVILIZATION FAILED

[Anonymous No.10126658]

>>10126594
Currently reading and you should too, OP, it's great.

[Anonymous No.10126664]

>>10125938
It gives them something to hate. For the loser this is very important because they have nothing else on which to rest their self esteem/ identity.

[Anonymous No.10126972]

>>10125800
The Culture of Narcissism - Christopher Lasch
Revolt of the Masses - José Ortega y Gasset
also Spergler and Ebola

[Anonymous No.10127003]

Le decline man

[Anonymous No.10127026]

>>10126664
I read this in Rick's voice. It made you sound twice as edgy and pseudy.

[Anonymous No.10127039]

>>10125800
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, instructions for inducing cultural decline

[Anonymous No.10127048]

>>10125938
rick and morty features a preachy pseudointellectualism, especially in the later seasons

[Anonymous No.10127051]

>pop culture is shit

This is very deep. Go write a book.

[Anonymous No.10127056]

>>10126656
rick and morty is both a vehicle for and representative of societal decline, with its zany nihilistic goofs and gags

[Anonymous No.10127120]

>>10125938
its that bad son, that bad

[Anonymous No.10127164]

>>10127026
It actually sounds better in rick's voice

Anyway it's a good show, I just don't like the "you're not evil. It's even worse. You're smart" moments (especially because "smart" in rick and morty apparently means being a superhuman who trascend the mortal condition)

[Anonymous No.10127185]

>>10127164
>I just don't like the "you're not evil. It's even worse. You're smart" moments

Season 3 in general is far more indulgent and stupid than the previous ones.

The season 2 premiere openly mocked Rick's nihilism. Somehow the fanbase missed this and instead fully embraces it as though the show were really about conveying this smart and edgy philosophy. The fanservice comes to fruition with the line you cite.

[Anonymous No.10127256]

>>10127164
The show got bad after two episodes.

[Anonymous No.10127279]

>>10125849
To be fair, Adorno was largely talking about popular and commercialized big band Jazz a la Glenn Miller. Their views don't really hold for the more out there jazz artists.

[Anonymous No.10127379]

>>10127279
His words applied just as much to the celebrated jazz "artists".

[Anonymous No.10127402]

*burp* There is no God Morty. Stop trying to find meaning, nobody exists on purpose. Let's go watch TV.

[Anonymous No.10127838]

>>10125800
Three Kingdoms.
It's an entire book about the decline of confucian norms.

[Anonymous No.10127988]

>>10126026
>Rick and Morty
>Brick and mortar

holy...how deep does the lore go...?

[Anonymous No.10129044]

>>10127279
didn't Adorno say some borderline racist things against Louis Armstrong?

[Anonymous No.10129100]

There is no fucking decline.

[Anonymous No.10129153]

>>10125860
woah..... deep

[Anonymous No.10129497]

>>10129100
t. oblivious ignoramus

[Anonymous No.10129509]

>>10125800
>no whites in the video
lmaoing at americans right now

[Anonymous No.10129534]

Jacques Barzun.
From Dawn to Decadence.

*tips the top hat*

[Anonymous No.10130712]

bump

[Anonymous No.10130731]

Culture is worthless anyway

[Anonymous No.10131451]

>>10127003
Yeah, Atomised comes to mind.

[Anonymous No.10131582]

If you are interested in cultural decline, I think Deleuze, Baudrillard, Junger, Heidegger are all worth reading

[Anonymous No.10131744]

>>10131582
>Deleuze
How so? I've only seen Deleuze saying something negative about his contemporary times in Abécédaire where he says that culture (or literature?) is currently in a "desert" phase, but adding that it's always up and down, with the attitude that "there's nothing to be pessimistic about".
Maybe you're thinking of Societies of Control? That is also not talking about a decline but a different power emerging after disciplinary, neither better nor worse.
He had the same stance about history as Foucault. They both refused to evaluate different times as better or worse.

[Anonymous No.10132066]

>>10127003
my hair is dry like this man, how do i fix it?

[Anonymous No.10132076]

>>10132066
>>>/adv/

[Anonymous No.10132446]

>>10132066
Stop using shampoo.

[Anonymous No.10132685]

>>10131582
What Heidegger?

[Anonymous No.10132833]

>>10125800
Unironically

[Anonymous No.10132849]

>>10125849
The one thing you think they're wrong about is the biggest indicator of cultural decline. Jazz was the hip-hop of their day. Don't tell me you actually enjoy hip hop

[Anonymous No.10132859]

Culture of Critique by Kevin McDonald.