/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.10124252]

/an/imals Edition
>What are you reading?
>What's it about?
>Last book you read with weird animals/biology/fauna

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries (incomplete, mostly pre-Millenium):
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Previously In Threads:
>>10111176
>>10101090
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[Anonymous No.10124276]

first post best post

[Anonymous No.10124283]

>>10124252
The Decline and Fall of the Book Cover
https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-decline-and-fall-of-the-book-cover

>I was a nerdy sci-fi-reading kid in the seventies. The so-called golden age of book and magazine illustration had died out some decades earlier, with the advent of color photography and improved print reproduction, but superb illustration was still thriving in the marginal niches of pulp and genre covers. Richard Powers, who illustrated the cover of what seemed like every science fiction paperback published in the nineteen-sixties, was influenced by surrealists like Roberto Matta and Yves Tanguy, and painted landscapes where monumental amorphous forms stood like alien architecture or colossal carcasses on indistinct plains. Ian Miller’s covers for Bantam’s editions of Ray Bradbury looked as though they were drawn by a lunatic imprisoned with only a straight edge and a compass—mechanical fantasias of girders and circuitry enclosing grotesque, half-molten faces. This was also a time when the aesthetics of psychedelia were filtering down into children’s pop culture, so that my editions of C. S. Lewis’s Christian allegories and John Christopher’s juvenile science fiction looked as if they were painted by Peter Max, every object seemingly sculpted out of foam. The blowing of minds was an artistic priority.

[Anonymous No.10124304]

>>10124283
>Or you can be an angry autist and hate it because its not perfect, going through your life unable to understand why people like things and don't hate everything as much as you do.
wow, you had a good argument going until you started blatantly putting words in my mouth.

[Anonymous No.10124311]

>>10124304
meant for >>10124206

[Anonymous No.10124338]

>>10124304
If that description doesn't apply to you, disregard.
I know too many of those latter types in meatspace. It's something of a sore point.

[Anonymous No.10124355]

>>10124283
What's the worst recent sff cover? Bakker's angry dinner plate covers?

[Anonymous No.10124388]

>start reading a new fantasy/science fiction book
>immediately get assaulted by terms, names and phrases which are meant to sound strange and new and fascinating, but it all becomes a meaningless word salad instead

Why do authors do this?

[Anonymous No.10124433]

>>10124388
They haven't learned how to effectively deliver information without overwhelming the audience. It's something every SFF author has to learn sooner or later.

But there are some special headcases that think machinegunning all their wacky proper nouns is "immersive" or something.

[Anonymous No.10124449]

>>10124355

[Anonymous No.10124487]

Thinking of picking this up. Is it any good?

[Anonymous No.10124489]

>>10124487
yes

[Anonymous No.10124490]

>>10124489
Elaborate

[Anonymous No.10124498]

>>10124490
no

[Anonymous No.10124508]

>>10124498
Fuck you

[Anonymous No.10124516]

>>10124508
maybe?

[Anonymous No.10124529]

>>10124516
That's more like it

[Anonymous No.10124547]

>>10124449
I just don't know anymore.

[Anonymous No.10124582]

worth?

[Anonymous No.10124638]

>>10124582
I think it is. Have you read Blood Song?

[Anonymous No.10124710]

>>10124638
No. I should?

[Anonymous No.10124731]

>>10124710
Yes, if you had already read Blood Song and didn't care for it I imagine you wouldn't like Waking Fire.

[Anonymous No.10124808]

>>10124731
I found them very different desu

Blood Song is a great book whose sequels collapse because they clearly weren't planned for whilst Waking Fire is less blow you away but it sets up a series that so far is consistent in quality.

[Anonymous No.10124845]

I've been very interested in the 40k universe lately, and I have yet to read any of the books. Should I start with the Horus Heresy? Also, is there anywhere I can get good audiobooks of them? They don't seem to be on audible

[Anonymous No.10124851]

Anyone got some recommendations of rather hard sci-fi novels with interesting world building and concepts that weren't done to death already?
Pic related.

[Anonymous No.10124857]

>>10124845
Read Eisenhorn first, Dan Abnett's probably the best writer they have and he has more creative freedom on that trilogy than on the big event stuff.

And look at /tg/ when I read Warhammer stuff I found it on there so if there's audiobooks they'll know/have them

[Anonymous No.10124863]

>reading a bunch of goodreads pages to see blurbs of books that aren't on wikipedia
>getting genuinely angry at how bad the top review always is
I shouldn't care

[Anonymous No.10124875]

>>10124863
the gif infested ones are a special type of cancer

[Anonymous No.10124898]

>>10124808
The stories are different yes but the prose/writing style is similar.

[Anonymous No.10124899]

>>10124516
I don't know

[Anonymous No.10124911]

>>10124851
>Thee Body Trilogy - Liu Cixin
This one seems to be hit or miss, but feels genuinely fresh, if really "foreign" at times.
>Manifold trilogy, Xeelee Sequence, - Stephen Baxter
Also check out his official sequels to The Time Machine and War of the Worlds
>Blindsight and Echopraxia by Peter Watts.
This one's a bit reddit-y at times. Blindsight fucking has a line that reads "from Plato to
Descartes to Dawkins" but they're a solid read and can get fucking disturbing.

[Anonymous No.10124917]

>>10124851
It's near future but Infomacracy is pretty unique

[Anonymous No.10124925]

>>10124911
The downward trajectory of Dawkins' respectability is fucking hilarious

[Anonymous No.10124957]

>>10124283
rose tinted glasses on there. for every interesting cover art there were a thousand that wouldn't be doing the book justice. it's exactly like today, except that back then the bad covers were incredibly camp, and now they just look cheap

[Anonymous No.10124975]

>>10124925

[Anonymous No.10124977]

>>10124957
Campy covers are still better than photographs of brooding guys.

[Anonymous No.10124989]

>>10124977
>doesn't like the brooding male

[Anonymous No.10124999]

>>10124989
I don't like it when it's a photograph/ultra realism photoshop style.

[Anonymous No.10125074]

>>10124977
I kinda disagree. At least as a child I'd have been more turned off by something utra camp than something ultra commercial like that. And while adults might not like shitty covers, we know better than to decide our books on it

[Anonymous No.10125076]

>pc crashes whilst books are moving to kindle
>upon restart plugging in kindle causes pc to crash
>have to factory reset kindle and repair it for it to work when plugged in again
I wanted to read for like an hour before bed and I've spent like 70 minutes on this shit, fuck near future we're living in a dystopia now

[Anonymous No.10125081]

>>10124899
Can you repeat the question?

[Anonymous No.10125115]

How can "Elves are vegetarians" and "Elves are excellent archers" archetypes be reconciled in fantasy? What do the average elves need to have excellent archery skills for if not to shoot animals to eat?

[Anonymous No.10125132]

>>10124851
I'll second the Three Body Problem series. It can be hard to get into at the start, the early translation is stiff and the characters are seldom more than two dimensional, but it deals with some genuinely interesting takes on first contact and the coexistence of interstellar societies.

[Anonymous No.10125138]

>>10125115
who says elves are vegetarian?

[Anonymous No.10125140]

>>10125115
Scared of dying but live forever so they want a distance weapon that can be mastered over time.

Live in woods so it's a natural ranging weapon, they don't hunt for hood but do scare off predators

At the end of the day there's people irl who are good at fishing but don't eat fish

[Anonymous No.10125142]

>>10125138
Tolkien

There's two tropes since then, either vegetarian or cannibalistic, imo the more animalistic take is more interesting

[Anonymous No.10125157]

>>10124252
>What are you reading?
Malazan of the Fallen, book two: Deadhouse gates

>What's it about?
I'm about 250 pages in, and so far I know there's a reverse holy grail quest that got a lady killed, but turned her spirit into a whirlwind. Also a girl who became a drug addicted whore. I'm quite frankly surprised that a PoV character became as such. Not that it's enjoyable to see, but from a detached view it's impressive the author was able to make a character as such sympathetic.

>>Last book you read with weird animals/biology/fauna
This current book, kind of. There are D'ivers and Soletaken, which haven't really been elaborated on too well, so I looked it up, and basically D'ivers (notice the plural) are shapeshifters who can turn their one being into many animals, and soletaken turn their one being into one animal. Is pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.10125238]

>>10124957
>>10125074
>posting /v/ nudes in /sffg/
Please don't do this. Find some racy book covers if you must. At least it will be topical.

[Anonymous No.10125261]

>>10125115

do vegetarian elves still use materials like leather, bone, and sinew?

[Anonymous No.10125284]

>>10124851
What did you like about the book you posted? I've never even heard of it.

[Anonymous No.10125305]

>>10125115
Tolkien's elves weren't vegetarian, the association with bows is because they hunted game in the woods.

Elven vegetarianism is a minor but illustrative example of presentism. In reality they would view the harvesting of wild animals as no different than the harvesting of mushrooms or tree bark, something to be done with a correct degree of respect for nature/Yavanna/forest spirits. However that viewpoint is so alien to unread moderns who associate meat consumption with (probably) factory farming, (maybe) Hindoo taboos, or (comedy option) kashrut, Oy Vey! that "close to nature" gets translated into "they don't eat meat".

[Anonymous No.10125312]

>>10124449
Isn't this highly accurate though? I read a synopsis of the plot (after watching The Dark Tower and wondering what in the ever loving fuck was going on) and in this book the protags are attacked by warriors that have Dr.Doom-like helmets and wield lightsabers and use quidditch balls (yes, this is not a joke)

I think Dark Tower just goes batshit crazy at some point with weirdo references to other literature and pop culture and it even has Stephen King as himself in the books at some point, its just crazyness.

So yeah, accurate cover.

[Anonymous No.10125361]

>>10125312
>accurate
Who cares if it is or isn't, it has shit-tier animation that doesn't even looked it finished properly rendering.

[Anonymous No.10125376]

>ywn read Lilith for the first time again

[Anonymous No.10125384]

>>10125074
>making me want to fuck sonic
You faggots go to no lengths to turn e everyone a fagget.

[Anonymous No.10125395]

Are their any sci fi authors who talk about the folly of uptopian futures?

How logic, industry and science arent a wellspring for humanity?

[Anonymous No.10125397]

>>10125395
watch Texhnolyze

[Anonymous No.10125408]

>>10125395

It just seems to me that utopian futures read like the soviet union. I have to wonder how many dead bodies they are hiding.

[Anonymous No.10125424]

>>10125395
I'm assuming you don't mean straight-out dystopias.

Kim Stanley Robinson's Aurora comes to mind. The message is you can't escape, so make the best of what you've been given.

[Anonymous No.10125435]

What's some realistic space sci-fi you've read? I don't even care about good story or characters I just want to masturbate over cool realistic spaceships. I don't think somebody has ever made space combat without cheating on the propulsion and I'd be extremely happy to find something that uses only plausible propulsion (no self-sustaining fusion or antimatter).

[Anonymous No.10125438]

>>10125424

Also the idea that if you take away the base emotions, needs and impulses of man, that suddenly he will become enlightened. As if there were no logic in evil.

[Anonymous No.10125623]

>What are you reading?
Magician: Apprentice by Raymond E Feist
>What's it about?
A magician's apprentice.
>Last book you read with weird animals/biology/fauna
Words of Radiance

[Anonymous No.10125655]

>>10124252
Weird Flora/Fauna?
Area X for sure

[Anonymous No.10125675]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqY0dCmAyNM

[Anonymous No.10125682]

The moon is a harsh mistress got pretty fucking boring. Fucker quoted Malthus, shit is dated as fug.

[Anonymous No.10125689]

>>10125142
Tolkien's elves were not vegetarian. I strongly suspect you have never read Tolkien.

[Anonymous No.10125814]

>>10125361
Thanks for reminding about this album-I have almost forgotten how shit most covers of that period back then were.Christ what was wrong with people in early 2000s?!I get that digital art was the hot new thing, but come the fuck on.
Fuck even proggy-piston garbage like pic-related looks gorgeous to this day.

[Anonymous No.10125837]

>>10124252
>Ella Enchanted
>A girl who has to obey every order
>There are dragons in Dragon Flight

[Anonymous No.10125851]

>>10125305

I kind of assumed they were just biologically herbivorous, and not hippies

[Anonymous No.10125853]

>>10125142
Hello tv tropes

[Anonymous No.10125862]

Hey guys, figured I'd post this here. Been trying to find the names of some books I read when I was younger for quite some time now. Some of which are scifi.

1.) Vampire book. Read this book in 7th grade so the details might be fuzzy but it was about a vampire living in England(?) who didn't know he was a vampire until he turned 18. His mother was one but didn't tell him for reasons I don't remember. After he finds out he is, she introduces him to some vampire group that try and get him to join in killings and such (could be wrong on this). He disagrees with them and runs away to New York and they kill his mom or something. The vampire head chases after him. Pretty sure it was new york because I do remember Hells Kitchen oddly enough. The book then ends with his girlfriend becoming a vampire too and both running away I think. Anyone know the name? I'm pretty it was directed for children although I could be wrong.

I could be wrong on some details, but any help would be appreciated. Also, I don't come to /lit/ much but is it okay to ask for help on remembering old books here? Not all the books I'm trying to remember are scifi so I was wondering if it was okay to make threads asking for help on remembering the name of books.

[Anonymous No.10125870]

>>10125862

that sounds maddeningly familiar actually, but I can't place it. Also I assume it's not against the rules to start a thread on that subject, I would confine it to one "anons post books they're trying to remember, others name them" thread instead of a different thread for each book

[Anonymous No.10125871]

>>10125851
Elves are highly spiritual beings that live in pseudoheaven. Don't be a fag and break it into biological factors you nerd

[Anonymous No.10125896]

>>10125870
Thanks, I'll make a thread like that when I have a good description for all the books I'm trying to remember. It's a long list sadly.

>>10125862
Another book, this one a children's story I'm sure.

I read the third part of a trilogy cause I couldn't find the first two books. This book was about an alien species that had a head that looked like a bicycle helmet. They had conquered earth and at the time of the third book the MC was living underground for years after becoming trapped. He was living with some new intelligent species underground I think. He finally escapes and by accident stares at the sun on his way out and becomes completely blind. There was also another water like species that had been interbreeding with the remnants of humanity. MC joins a rebellion made of humans, the water species, and their mixed offspring to fight off the alien species. They succeed and at the end he meets up with his girlfriend who had been captured and tortured by the alien species years ago. That's all I remember.

[Anonymous No.10125992]

>>10125689
reread the feast scenes agains fuckboy

there's no meat there

[Anonymous No.10126257]

>>10125395
Aldoux Huxley's Brave New World, Walter Tevis' The Man Who Fell To Earth, and Mockingbird

Not SF but there's a lengthy part of Dostoevsky's Notes From Underground on this topic. Here, utopia isn't achievable because it assumes that man will act in his best interests; man has free well, including a will to act spitefully and destructively against his own interests; and man wouldn't be happy if he could just live comfortably and eat cake. Walter Tevis Mockingbird, in articular, is written along these lines. He depicts a future where automation has created comfortable lives and instant gratification, where robots govern and work for us, but people become sloth, illiterate and unhappy.

>>10125435
>I don't even care about good story or character
Just play flight and space sims

>>10125682
I didn't like The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress at all, and I like Heinein's simpler juveniles more.

[Anonymous No.10126261]

>>10126257
>Just play flight and space sims
this, but with the addition of kill yourself

[Anonymous No.10126274]

Is it good?

[Anonymous No.10126300]

>>10126274
What do you think?

[Anonymous No.10126337]

>>10126274
>this fucking book
I once tried to skimread this because I was writing a fanfic about pirates and didn't know anything about sailing. It is the most overly verbose and plotless book I've ever read, only read it if you want to know exactly how sailing works in the most minute detail, the landscape described to you at a sluggish pace and more about religion and its role in a fantasy history in an excruciatingly slow process.

[Anonymous No.10126342]

>>10126337
Pic related (basically the entire novel)

[Anonymous No.10126381]

>>10126337
>>10126342
That actually seems interesting, I like boats and nautical trivia! Though I read ACTUAL nautical journals for fun so I'm kindof an outlier.

[Anonymous No.10126386]

>>10126381
You don't really know what parts they've made up and what parts are fictional.

I also downloaded John H. Harland Seamanship in the Age of Sail.pdf

Benerson Little-How History's Greatest Pirates Pillaged, Plundered, and Got Away with It_ The Stories, Techniques, and Tactics of the Most Feared Sea Rovers from 1500-1800-Fair Winds (2010).pdf

to find out a bit more about it

[Anonymous No.10126452]

>>10126386
seems a lot of effort for fanfic

[Anonymous No.10126459]

>>10126452
I didn't end up publishing the fanfic so I'm going to reuse bits of it for my original novel.

[Anonymous No.10126470]

>>10125305
Forgive me if I'm wrong (I wonder if they go into further depth in the children of hurin) but I've gotten to the part in the silmarillion where Mîm and his sons were ambushed by túrin and he mentions the banished dwarves from the east who he descends from were hunted by elves (sindar)
>Before the Dwarves of Nogrod and Belegost came west over the mountains the Elves of Beleriand knew not what these others were, and they hunted them, and slew them; but afterwards they let them alone, and they were called Noegyth Nibin, the Petty-Dwarves, in the Sindarin tongue.
They weren't exactly the model naugrim you read about learning from the noldor or like those that fought glaurung, they're described as only caring for themselves and distrusting others but its strange how the elves went out of their way to hunt them.

[Anonymous No.10126707]

imagine releasing a 10th anniversary edition of a novel when you haven't even completed the third book in the series

even more baffling is that some people will presumably buy this

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/name-of-the-wind-patrick-rothfuss/1100178957?ean=9780756413712#/

[Anonymous No.10126802]

>>10126707
Is Rothfuss even alive any more or is his death being hushed up to keep rereleasing Name of the Wind?

[Anonymous No.10126825]

>>10126707
it doesn't even fucking work as a standalone

[Anonymous No.10126925]

>>10126707
Modern fantasy authors never cease to amaze me, every fucking forum has a bunch of "Tor published authors" that speaks like their the next Tolkien, then you go to their goodreads page and they have one published novella with half the reviews (<50) from NetGalley.

[Anonymous No.10127034]

>>10124487

This book kicks ass.

[] Nobles plotting each other's downfalls in endless feuds and imperial ambitions
[] Beautiful ladies who actually have sex with dudes instead of primping demurely
[] Wizardry that feels like wizardry instead of "I cast magic missile at the darkness"
[] Weird monsters
[] Wrastling
[] Sympathetic villains whose plans actually make sense
[] Consequences when the heroes do the wrong things
[] Bad ass songs about how salted beef is the best shit of all time
[] Awesome Jacobean repartee and puns
[] Inexorable cycles of fate

[Anonymous No.10127053]

>>10125142

Tolkien's elves are definitely not all vegetarian, hunting is a major pastime of theirs and is not treated as wrong or bad at all. There are words for "vegetarian" in some vocab lists, and the green-elves of Ossiriand in the first age did not kill living things, but the mere fact that Tolkien mentions this shows that it was not usual for elves. From The Hobbit, when the dwarves stumble upon the elves feasting in the wood:

>There was a fire in their midst and there were torches fastened to some of the trees round about; but most splendid sight of all: they were eating and drinking and laughing merrily. The smell of the roast meats was so enchanting...

[Anonymous No.10127062]

>>10126342

This really isn't that bad at all, never read Aubrey-Maturin books or you will melt away like the wicked witch of the west

[Anonymous No.10127173]

>tfw no nienor sister gf
>tfw no idril cousin gf
>tfw no aredhel mummy gf
>tfw no haleth dom gf

[Anonymous No.10127223]

>>10127053
Hobbit isn't canon

[Anonymous No.10127235]

>>10127223
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.10127246]

>>10127235
1) It's a bedtime story
2) Bilbao is a totally unreliable narrator

[Anonymous No.10127257]

Read annihilation. It's not really that good, didn't scratch the STALKER itch. What should I read next?

[Anonymous No.10127266]

>>10127246
That doesn't mean it isn't canon. Do you know what canon means?

[Anonymous No.10127435]

tips about cyberpunk?

[Anonymous No.10127442]

>>10127435
pink prosthetic arms

[Anonymous No.10127474]

quick /sffg/ i have to read a book right now.
what do i read?
inb4 books I have already read

[Anonymous No.10127489]

>>10127474
The Consumer - Michael Gira

[Anonymous No.10127511]

When my sister was released from the mental
hospital, she came to live with me in the tilting and
crumbling one-bedroom
house I'd bought with the
small amount
of money I inherited when
our parents
died.

[Anonymous No.10127544]

What is /lit/ opinion on The Bloodsounders arc by Jeff Salyards ?

[Anonymous No.10127570]

>>10127511
is this some reference

[Anonymous No.10127574]

>>10127570
>?
Fixed.

[Anonymous No.10127584]

>>10127223
Canon is a breathtakingly retarded concept with respect to almost anything, but especially with respect to Tolkien who kept revising and reworking his conceptions in a wide variety of published and unpublished texts through almost the whole of his adult life. But what that passage tells us, together with many others that describe elves hunting and, for example, the fact that the elves of Lorien use skin blankets when sleeping in winter, strongly suggests that Tolkien conceived them as killing animals and using animal products, and if they did this, why would they let the meat go to waste?

[Anonymous No.10127588]

>>10127544
Got bored in book 1

The coward protagonist is a great idea but the execution was eh

[Anonymous No.10127596]

>>10127489
not enjoying it desu
honestly seems like hot garbage
I did get a boner with the brother sister stuff though

[Anonymous No.10127613]

Is dragonlance a good series of books or it's garbage

[Anonymous No.10127621]

>>10127613
I'll start reading it if you do

[Anonymous No.10127631]

Any good book about a paladin?

[Anonymous No.10127640]

>>10127631
Deed of Paks is the absolute epitome of this

Book 1 is pre paladin military days Book 2 is Heroic Trials and Book 3 is finally becoming one

[Anonymous No.10127651]

>>10127640
but is he truly a paladin? Like the DnD ones where they are the heralds of their gods?

[Anonymous No.10127670]

>>10127613
what order are we reading it in

[Anonymous No.10127674]

>>10127651
She lol but yeah pretty much, there's other paladins separate to what the protag becomes which don't fit that definition

[Anonymous No.10127696]

>>10127670
wat
i mean from the beggining no?

[Anonymous No.10127700]

>>10127674
>she
droped, any book with a true paladin?
dont like female protags
they always are "i am powerful fuck yeah" just to be a submissive cunt in the bed

[Anonymous No.10127712]

>>10127696
where is the beginning. I've googled reading order and gotten lost

[Anonymous No.10127735]

>>10127442
if a dude jerks you off but his arm is a female model cyborg prosthetic, is it gay?

[Anonymous No.10127743]

>>10127712
dragonlance #1.

[Anonymous No.10127750]

>>10127735
is this gay?

[Anonymous No.10127760]

>>10127034
>Awesome Jacobean repartee and puns

Alright fine I'm sold, jeez

[Anonymous No.10127762]

>>10127750
no that's a woman.

[Anonymous No.10127797]

>>10127762
is it?
What is a woman but a miserable pile of shit?

[Anonymous No.10127798]

>>10127584

Hence my biologically herbivorous theory :^) they can't digest animal protein but still use animal parts (skin, sinew, bone) and hunt for sport because they don't have any spiritual connection to nature nonsense. They could also export smoked/salted meat to, say, dwarves and hobbits and dalemen even if they can't eat it themselves.

They may or may not be able to consume dairy, perhaps becoming lactose intolerant after infancy. A plant-based diet from birth might also go some of the way to explaining their slender builds and often feminine features.

All that said, at least one instance of some elves in Tolkien's setting eating meat was cited here >>10127053
but I think the above is still a worthwhile middle ground between being hippies or cannibals, for elves in general, independent of Tolkien.

[Anonymous No.10127907]

>>10127700
You can try Ordination, by Daniel Ford, even if protag is a bit Mary Sueish. Enjoy your muh god muh commoners no fuckin allowed paladin.

[Anonymous No.10128049]

>>10127797
A woman is just like you or I.

[Anonymous No.10128201]

>>10127631
The Green Knight's Squire.

[Anonymous No.10128263]

>>10127798
>>10127798
While I can see where you are coming from, I think
>slender builds and often feminine features
is reading into Tolkien ideas that stem from Tolkien imitators and general fantasy cliche rather than the man himself. Male elves are often described in terms of their beauty in Tolkien, but not in terms of having a feminine beauty -- you have to think of it more in terms of the aristeia of form, the faintly homoerotic masculine perfection that one finds in antique myth. Or for that matter in The Worm Ouroboros since that's from the same kind of mindset in some ways (though very different in others), guys like Juss and Gro are written up as super beautiful and written about in some times rather gushing terms (take a shot for every honor paid to Gro's eyes) but their beauty is clearly contrasted to the beauty of Brandoch Daga, which is portrayed in a way that makes it clear he appears effeminate and even foppish despite his rock-solid throbbing masculinity.

As for the slender build, I think that is people reading too much into the appearance of Legolas, who is indeed slender. Many of the light elves seem to have been very tall (Thingol and Turgon are both over 7, and possibly over 8 feet in height) but there's nothing to indicate that they were particularly thin proportionally. And in general they are described as being stronger and faster than men, which doesn't really support a low-protein or meatless diet in my eyes. The most important elvish foodstuff was bread (Tolkien wrote quite a bit about the importance of baking and deciding who gets the bread as a social role of elven-ladies in particular) and obviously it would be out of character for them to kill animals in excess of their needs, but I think the texts clearly support a meat-inclusive diet for them.

[Anonymous No.10128343]

>>10127762
>that
>woman
Anon i...

[Anonymous No.10128350]

>>10127570
Not him. But it's one bedroom, she is mentally ill. They are male and female. You are on 4chan, let your imagination run free.

[Anonymous No.10128356]

>>10128343
It's a woman.

[Anonymous No.10128368]

>>10128356
It's a tranny porn star. Go cry in the shower and try to bleach the thoughts from your skin.

[Anonymous No.10128381]

>>10128368
Yes but it's also a woman

[Anonymous No.10128386]

Which one of these should I read next?

>Powder Mage
>Faithful and the Fallen
>Ryria Revelations
>Traitor Son
>Black Company

[Anonymous No.10128388]

>>10127750
gimme a gif without the titties blurred for lords sake

[Anonymous No.10128415]

>>10128386
I don't know why don't you tell me?

[Anonymous No.10128458]

>>10127750

Yes, because a feminine penis is still a penis, even if it is floppy and impotent or, still worse, turned inside out and stuffed up inside his pelvis

[Anonymous No.10128469]

Any good horror released in the past 2 years? Looking for something to read.

[Anonymous No.10128470]

>>10128381
>>10128356
>>10128049
>>10127762

I see the resident tranny is stuck in a loop again

[Anonymous No.10128475]

>>10128470
>resident tranny
SFFG is entirely women

[Anonymous No.10128540]

>>10128386
Go with Riyria Revelations or Black Company

[Anonymous No.10128549]

anything similar to this?
the wait for book 2 is killing me and i really enjoyed this.

[Anonymous No.10128567]

>it's a Merry and Pippin episode

[Anonymous No.10128633]

>>10128567
A fun thing to keep in mind with Merry and Pippin is that they are not local buffoons, but the future aristocratic leaders of the better part of the entire hobbit race, dividing it between their two rival families. Almost everything they do together is noble lines' feuding and oneupmanship writ very small.

[Anonymous No.10128675]

This was decent entertainment from Moorcock and Elric, the second novel chronologically, but published nearly two decades after Elric Of Melnibone. Compared to the first book this is a more conventional adventure plot, a macguffin to be retrieved from dangerous lands, and a damsel in distress. Elric's grim demeanor is softened by a romantic interest side character, whereby he appears less aloof and more human. This is also largely a travelogue through seven dream realms so there is a lot of surreal and images and whimsy, and considerable crossover with wider Moorcock stories (which I detected without having read Jerry Cornelius) The tone overall is more oriental, adventurous, and less grimdark than previously, and Moorcock's interest remains in proud and fading empires, justice, fate, willpower, chaos and law. For all of this there is still a lot of entertaining action sequences and escapism but nothing unique. It's a 3/5 book, quickly readable over a weekend.

[Anonymous No.10128687]

Post Malazan artwork for phone wallpaper

[Anonymous No.10128695]

>>10128687
Why not Elric?

[Anonymous No.10128762]

One of the better collections I've read. I think I enjoyed the Lafferty story more than any of the ones in Strange Doings. Anyone that doesn't like this is probably an onion.

[Anonymous No.10128765]

>>10128469
Trigger Warning by Neil Gaiman.

[Anonymous No.10128770]

Anybody read the Shiva series by Amish Tripathi?

Is it good? Does it build on Hindu philosophy at all or just use some of its lore as inspiration?

[Anonymous No.10128797]

>>10128762
that's a beautiful cover

[Anonymous No.10128823]

>>10128797
That'd be the work of Don Punchatz. Oddities is probably my favorite of the ones I have. They can get kinda bizarre. He did some for the foundation trilogy.

[Anonymous No.10128830]

>>10128823

[Anonymous No.10128834]

Did cyberpunk ruin the visionary trait of science fiction? It moved SF away from fantastic vistas and concepts and even 'hard' science and into postmodern crap like psychology, ontology, epistemology and even fucking noir.

Hear me out. What's the point of reading science fiction if there's gonna be drones, robots, rockets, cell phones, "network", AI? Shouldn't it deal with something that's unconceivable yet enticing?

[Anonymous No.10128836]

>>10128830

[Anonymous No.10128847]

>>10128830
I like this one the best

[Anonymous No.10128902]

>>10128847
Yah, it's pretty good. I went through his collection of covers and found this piece done in a more realistic style but retaining the trippy aesthetic.

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10128929]

>>10128834
I'm not seeing where cyberpunk is as influential as you seem to think. I doubt more than a handful of /sffg/ regulars could name 5 cyberpunk books. I could agree if you were saying scifi is petering out and cyberpunk is essentially navel-gazing.

At some point, all the low-hanging fruit will be picked, in terms of interesting concepts. I suspect that we are in that time. Perhaps we simply need more history to pass to give us a better idea of what could be coming.

[Anonymous No.10128939]

/r/ me some power fantasy

[Anonymous No.10128987]

>>10128549
>design a superhero costume
>instead of armoring yourself you leave vital areas exposed
>femoral artery
>heart
>jugular
>all exposed
>shocked when they die

[Anonymous No.10128995]

>>10128687

[Anonymous No.10129001]

Looking for book recs that are abstract and weird and not the same old story. Give me something new and expand my mind

[Anonymous No.10129010]

>>10129001
A Voyage to Arcturus by David Lindsay
Star Maker by Olaf Stapledon
Son of Man by Silverberg

[Anonymous No.10129021]

>>10129010
>Star Maker by Olaf Stapledon
I couldn't read this, the prose was too much. I'll check out the rest of the recs, thanks

[Anonymous No.10129025]

>>10128770
It was shit. I tried to read it to get a hold of Hindu mythology, but the author is inexperienced, has a poor grasp of the English language , and lubes up and rides all the gods' dicks in this novel hard.

If it wasn't written with such crude English (i think in the attempt of it being accessible to children) it would have been a great book. I finished it but didn't continue the series.

How persons traveled, the advances in medicine, etc, all would have been digested better if it wasn't for his bullshit prose. He should have written it in Hindi and found an excellent translator to work on it. I'm 50% certain it would have come out better than this.
You can give it a try if you want.

[Anonymous No.10129031]

>>10128939
Why would I request power fantasy from you ?

[Anonymous No.10129034]

>>10129001
Library at mount char
I gave it 4.8/5 repressed daughters who fucked their brothers to escape a beating

[Anonymous No.10129038]

>>10128987
to be honest it doesnt really matter how many andreas die as long as atleast one is alive.

[Anonymous No.10129043]

>>10129034
bro ive seen you here before bro why do you keep recommending this
are you the author?

its a good book with some interesting themes (man god is an asshole), but its really not amazing or anything

worth a read, but not that abstract or mindfucky, just solid middle of the road fantasy

[Anonymous No.10129048]

>>10129025
Read Lord of Light

[Anonymous No.10129054]

>>10128987
I am intrigued by the fuzzy ears and tail. Please describe their (and others like) referential frequency and importance in the story.

[Anonymous No.10129088]

>>10129043
After all the shit I read it was a break away in the right direction .

[Anonymous No.10129091]

>>10129048
I already did. I read black company too with his not-Kali strangling everyone.

[Anonymous No.10129098]

>>10129088
I agree in that I think it is a good book to read to just have something enjoyable and interesting that isn't a lot of mental work.

[Anonymous No.10129104]

>>10129054
I never read it. I got that from the cover and cape comics in general. Superman is the only one that should be walking around with just his briefs on.

Batman should do like owlman and have his eyes covered, and then wear a mask over mouth. How a sniper from 3 roofs away didn't shatter his plot armored exposed mouth in all these decades is a mystery to me.

[Anonymous No.10129111]

>>10129098
Also. If you've seen me before then you've been here long enough to have heard of me. I like to post charts

[Anonymous No.10129148]

>>10129104
:crying catface:

[Anonymous No.10129174]

Is libgen dead?

[Anonymous No.10129182]

>>10129054
andrea is a multiplier.
she creates copies of her self.
basically she was a solitary pmc at one point.
mc buys her at a slave action and uses her for gruntwork. later down the line its found out that she washes his clothes but theyre like always a week late.
turns out she sleeps in his unwashed clothes cause she likes his scent so much.

[Anonymous No.10129188]

>>10129182
also she likes pancakes.

[Anonymous No.10129197]

>>10129104
its not really capeshit actually. only partially.
its mostly a mixture of litrpg and empire building.
the best thing about the book is seeing the mc transform from apathetic to caring for his people and protecting them. also lilly and andrea are best girls. also eva because of the pen.

[Anonymous No.10129237]

>>10129174
http://libgen.io/

[Anonymous No.10129312]

>>10129182
Hrm.
How informal is the prose?
On a scale from autistic linguist to conversational with modern slang.

[Anonymous No.10129345]

>>10129312
just read the book its pretty good.
i recommend listening to the audiobook actually. its very well recorded.
http://audiobookbay.nl/audio-books/super-sales-on-super-heroes-william-d-arand/

[Anonymous No.10129370]

>>10129345
Errr, yes. I'm afraid that, by itself, is insufficient. My willingness to bear much in pursuit of luxuriantly furred aural equipage notwithstanding, as an unrepentant loather of all works modern, additional inducement is required.

[Anonymous No.10129371]

>>10127743
this doesn't seem like the beginning at all

[Anonymous No.10129394]

>>10129371
Just get the book from 1984

[Anonymous No.10129472]

>>10129371
Dragons of Autumn Twilight
Dragons of Winter Night
Dragons of Spring Dawning
Time of the Twins
War of the Twins
Test of the Twins

[Anonymous No.10129634]

QUICK! THE AMERICANS AFE ASLEEP.
WHAT ARE YOU READING???

[Anonymous No.10129647]

>>10129634
I'm an American and right now I'm reading a math textbook because I suck at trig but I'm going to transfer for a mechanical engineering degree in the summer.

[Anonymous No.10129659]

>>10129634
I'm reading /lit/

[Anonymous No.10129701]

>>10129634
Nothing.
I just finished TUC and now I can't find anything to read.
Recommend something, preferably GRI approved.

>>10129647
How can you suck at trig? It's literally just triangles :^)

If we're doing maths textbooks then here's one I'm currently using for a course.

[Anonymous No.10129708]

>>10129634
Reading this.
Why is this thread so dead when americans are asleep?

[Anonymous No.10129757]

>>10129634
Taking a break from Clark Ashton Smith to read Permutation City. Almost done; would definitely recommend.

[Anonymous No.10129764]

>>10129634
starting to read the dresden files.
almost done with book 1.
seems to be alright so far but i get the feeling its gonna develop mcguyver syndrome at some point.

[Anonymous No.10129946]

>>10129634
Jonathan Strange, I'm about 300 pages in and the book is great. Exactly the right amount of humor, the characters are well written and everyone, even minor characters, have their own personalities and identifying traits. I'm not sure about the footnotes, sure they're great for explaining small details but one footnote ran for like 3 pages.

After this I'm going back to older sci-fi, most likely giving Heinleins stories about Lazarus Long a shot.

[Anonymous No.10130299]

>>10129701
>Recommend something, preferably GRI approved.
Have you tried Black Jewels Trilogy yet? Cock rings, loli, femals dom, rape, incest, forced gay, etc

[Anonymous No.10130378]

>>10128765
But it triggers people

[Anonymous No.10130381]

>>10130378
But they were warned

[Anonymous No.10130406]

>>10129025
Damn. As a new Hindu, I was hoping for some SFF that would connect to what I'm learning.

Ah, well. At least there are the epics to read.

[Anonymous No.10130428]

>>10124433
R _ _ E _ _ J _ R _ _ _

[Anonymous No.10130436]

>>10128549
What the shit is that cover?
>Stolen DeviantArt OC
>Shit basic pre-made windows text effects
>generic font
Jesus lad that's gonna give me nightmares tonight

[Anonymous No.10130437]

>>10129182
>turns out she sleeps in his unwashed clothes cause she likes his scent so much.

Niggah that's kawaii.

[Anonymous No.10130458]

>>10129634
Jerusalem. It's long as fuck, been reading it for months.

[Anonymous No.10130461]

>>10129001
The Book of All Hours by Hal Duncan

[Anonymous No.10130483]

>>10124252
>What are you reading?
Wheel of Time
>What's it about?
people worshiping a holy tapestry or some such
>Last book you read with weird animals/biology/fauna
The Dark Tower 3

[Anonymous No.10130493]

>>10130406
Hindu shit was always like that. Piss easy explanations with no depth as to assuage confusion.
I grew up in w multicultural country where the 3 major religions are Islam, Hinduism and Christianity. The hindu cartoons i saw as a kid was horribly written. But seeing as most Hindus aren't well educated it makes sense when they have to convey thoughts as convoluted and complex as religion.

Read the bhagavad gita, and watch old hindi cartoons with hannoman and the other animal headed gods and their high-jinx. Look for works with kali, etc. The series above would probably explain a lot, but it depends on your threshold for shitty awfully written prose.

[Anonymous No.10130507]

>>10130437
if i wash off the blood and clean up the girl in your pic do you think she would make a good flesh onahole?

[Anonymous No.10130540]

>>10130493
Appreciated. I'm actually currently working my way through the introductory reading list on the Hinduism subreddit.

[Anonymous No.10130563]

>>10130540
Are you a qt gril?
Also pro tip from someone who grew up among hindus. You can't really convert into their religion. Unlike Christianity and Islam, there is no conversion for Hinduism. You are born into it, and "baptised" by the pandit.

[Anonymous No.10130613]

>>10130563
>Are you a qt gril?
Nope.
>Also pro tip from someone who grew up among hindus. You can't really convert into their religion. Unlike Christianity and Islam, there is no conversion for Hinduism. You are born into it, and "baptised" by the pandit.
There are certainly places I can't go, like Sri Jagannatha Mandir, and organizations I can't join, like the Yoga-Vedanta Forest Academy, but I am specifically interested in Saiva Siddhanta, of which I am informed there are many white as well as Indian adherents. "Conversion" may not be the right word. I just want to go to a temple on a regular basis, show respect to Lord Shiva, and do bhakti. I don't care if other people recognize me as "a Hindu" or not.

[Anonymous No.10130615]

so, thoughts on Dune? I wanna read it before its adaptation (made by Villeneuve)

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10130642]

>>10130613
I'm curious, what prompted this interest?

[Anonymous No.10130667]

>>10130642
I was reading up on Cunning Folk, which were basically folk magicians and healers that people often turned to for help in medieval and early modern England, and as I started reading about "hedge riding," which basically refers to crossing into the spirit world, and general psychopomp stuff, I came across Orphism, a Greek mystery religion focused on Dionysus. I found out that it was probably influenced by Hindu thought, and that some people had drawn parallel between Orphism and some forms of Shaivism. Out of curiosity, I started reading a book of devotional poetry about Shiva, looking up terms I didn't know, and I got to one called "To the Mahadeva It Knows" and I felt weird. Small, but for the first time I can remember, not insecure or worthless. As I read more about Siva Siddhanta, I realized a lot of it matched up with much of how I understand the world already. In fact, one of only two dreams I've ever had that I can remember vividly involved the idea of God as a dancer.

I know this might all sound "fluffy" or childish, but I was depressed and dealing with anxiety for years and through therapy and working on myself, I got quite a bit better, but I hit a plateau at a level still significantly below what I would consider "healthy." For the first time, as I pursue this, I'm improving once more.

By the way, I looked, and someone put the poem online here:

http://parkothkshethrampayyantemplearoli.blogspot.com/2016/01/to-mahadeva-it-knows_14.html

You'll have to scroll down a little to see it.

[Anonymous No.10130698]

>>10124252
Can any of you recommend me sci fi books about the following

>authoritarian regimes (think fascist stuff like Starship Troopers)
>Space colonization
>humans being a weak presence in a galaxy of hostile aliens
>human civil wars across various solar systems
>science fiction with aristocratic governments (think Dune)

Anything like that would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.10130717]

>>10130698
>>Space colonization
Neal Asher polity series

>humans being a weak presence in a galaxy of hostile aliens
Bv Larson's Undying Mercenaries

>>science fiction with aristocratic governments (think Dune)
read rising

[Anonymous No.10130723]

>>10130698
>authoritarian regimes (think fascist stuff like Starship Troopers)
Moon is a Harsh Mistress
>Space colonization
Moon is a Harsh Mistress
>humans being a weak presence in a galaxy of hostile aliens
Three Body Problem (also deal with space colonization)

[Anonymous No.10130757]

Any good martyrdom stories?

Or just the MC suffering and dying horribly?

[Anonymous No.10130781]

>>10130757
The holy bible - King James version

[Anonymous No.10130892]

Any good medieval fantasy not written by a feminist? Or at least not written by a feminist that batters you over the noggin with that fact every 3 lines.

[Anonymous No.10130913]

>>10130892
I'm sure there is, but whether there's MUCH of it probably depends on what it counts as to batter you over the noggin with that fact.

Is a woman in the book being brave, confident, heroic, etc., inherently "beating you over the head with feminism" to you? If so, then there's probably only a little. If not, then there's probably plenty.

[Anonymous No.10131049]

What are some good fantasy books that focus on revenge or righteous anger?

[Anonymous No.10131182]

>>10131049
SIlmarillion.

[Anonymous No.10131269]

>>10128549
Yo this is like the perfect example of a book I'll never read because of the cover and title

[Anonymous No.10131337]

Dis gud?

[Anonymous No.10131348]

>>10131269
Well it’s smut.

Why would you expect anything higher quality than that?

[Anonymous No.10131441]

>>10131337
Kate Elliott is horrible

[Anonymous No.10131462]

>Thingol was filled with wonder and grief when he looked on him, and knew that grim and aged man for Húrin Thalion, the captive of Morgoth [.....]
>And Húrin cast it at the feet of Thingol with wild and bitter words. ‘Receive thou thy fee,’ he cried, ‘for thy fair keeping of my children and my wife! For this is the Nauglamír, whose name is known to many among Elves and Men; and I bring it to thee out of the darkness of Nargothrond, where Finrod thy kinsman left it behind him when he set forth with Beren son of Barahir to fulfil the errand of Thingol of Doriath!’[.......]
>But it is said that Húrin would not live thereafter, being bereft of all purpose and desire, and cast himself at last into the western sea; and so ended the mightiest of the warriors of mortal Men.

[Anonymous No.10131485]

>>10130781
>King James version
Why the butchered version?

[Anonymous No.10131499]

>>10131337
I once sent Elliott an email listing all the inconsistencies in one of her short stories. She was so pissed she made a twitter thread about it accusing me being a misogynist and didn't write me back till two days later.

[Anonymous No.10131509]

>>10131499
lolwat

[Anonymous No.10131513]

>>10131462

[Anonymous No.10131516]

>>10131485
You want the maccabee bible?

[Anonymous No.10131519]

>>10131513

[Anonymous No.10131522]

>>10131519

[Anonymous No.10131530]

>>10131522

[Anonymous No.10131531]

>>10131462
It's incredible how silmarillion is so amazing in so many ways, tragedy, vengeance, hope, despair.
Every single piece of this masterpiece is perfectly put, nothing feels forced, the tolkien world is truly alive.
Tolkien is like the Blind Guardian of fantasy.

[Anonymous No.10131539]

>>10131531

[Anonymous No.10131540]

>>10131530
>>10131522
>>10131519
>>10131513
>white
>white
>white
>white
Why no blacks?

Why so racist, anon?

[Anonymous No.10131546]

>>10131539

[Anonymous No.10131550]

>>10131531
BTW do you know what books inspire BG'S lyrics beside lotr?

[Anonymous No.10131555]

>>10131540
cus edain blood init

[Anonymous No.10131586]

>>10131550
They’ve done The Dark Tower, ASOIAF, The Odessey, Wheel of Time, Dragonlance, Morte D’Arthur and probably more that I can’t remember off the top of my head.

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10131597]

>>10131049
Revenge is a primary motive for the MC in Jack Vance's Lyonnesse trilogy.

[Anonymous No.10131609]

>>10131485
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611_1-Maccabees-Chapter-1/
Butchered of what?

[Anonymous No.10131629]

>>10131609
I assume she's referring to the latin vulgate translation and not the apocryphal texts.

[Anonymous No.10131635]

I just finished King of Elfland's Daughter and that part with the unenchanted lands was too real.
>tfw the madman and the moonstruck pull him back from the border of Fairyland

[Anonymous No.10131666]

>>10131586
they've done a myriad of themes in their songs, even twin peaks has a song(one minute only tough) named black chamber.
Also, they even done a music about the guy who discovered heliocentrism.

[Anonymous No.10131699]

Are there any good fantasy phone novels?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_phone_novel

[Anonymous No.10131711]

>>10131699
I hope not.

[Anonymous No.10131825]

>>10131499
Kek I hope you saved the tweet

[Anonymous No.10131875]

>>10127511
>>10128350
Is there a book about wanting to fuck your sister but then growing into loving her as a true relative?

[Anonymous No.10131901]

>Let's spend an entire book on a slave no-one gives a fuck about

Just why

[Anonymous No.10131985]

>>10131049
City of Miracles. It's kinda sorta a standalone novel.

[Anonymous No.10132003]

Is there any fantasy out there that basically tells superhero stories?

Wild Cards and Reckoners aren't my thing

[Anonymous No.10132054]

Alright /sffg/, this might be kind of a weird one, but hopefully you catch my drift.

I want a fantasy novel in the spirit of HBO's Rome series. Not necessarily a Roman-inspired fantasy series, but a novel that handles worldbuilding and values dissonance in a similar way.

In particular: 1) it doesn't give a single fuck about making the reader uncomfortable/triggered with how it's world is portrayed, 2) the world isn't 'America except with knights and dragons', and 3) doesn't ever beat you over the head with info about the world.

And also not Bakker, I already know about that series.

[Anonymous No.10132124]

>>10132003
It's been mentioned in the past but WormIt's a webnovel

[Anonymous No.10132130]

>>10132054
>HBO's Rome series
ask reddit

[Anonymous No.10132131]

>>10132124
I'll read this if I can get it on a ereadable format now, fuck reading on screens man

[Anonymous No.10132171]

>>10132130
oops, looks like I've stepped yet another reddit landmine. why are those two completely unrelated things associated with each other, anon?

[Anonymous No.10132193]

>>10132131
I grabbed two versions (the files with the same name are just different formats), I don't know which is better, but both claim to be complete.

https://mega.nz/#F!Z3IT1QKQ!z-BE6vOr10I7IJUMIaVbMQ

[Anonymous No.10132195]

>>10132171
I imagine she is irritated by the "Book like X" style question where the X is a non-literature medium. A request to take your inquiry to Reddit is a generic "your question is dumb, gtfo" sendoff.

[Anonymous No.10132232]

>>10132195
Well, the things I was requesting are applicable to pretty much any medium, so that would be kind of stupid. I guess they just saw [tv series] and didn't actually read the rest of the post.

[Anonymous No.10132266]

>>10132232
Oh, certainly. Unfortunately, posting [tv], [movie], video game], etc... triggers the /lit/izen because it assumes a familiarity with these mediums that she neither has nor desires.

[Anonymous No.10132271]

>>10132124
>Twig is almost done
>Worm 2 by the end of this month

About fucking time. I hope he doesn't fuck it u.

[Anonymous No.10132304]

>>10124911
I read Proxima by Baxter and it was ruined by poor internal logic. Will his other books likely annoy me too?

[Anonymous No.10132430]

>>10132232
Hbo's rome is pleb tier entry level trash, I think that's why she saw it as reddity

[Anonymous No.10132438]

>>10131049
The Name of The Wind

[Anonymous No.10132490]

>>10132171

[Anonymous No.10132496]

What's some good fantasy where people are actually kind to animals? Not necessarily vegetarian, but something leaning more that way where people live with nature and don't try to dominate it.

[Anonymous No.10132519]

>>10132490
Can you please post the corrected version where the anon face is put on the right character?

[Anonymous No.10132529]

>>10132496
You can be kind and dominate. Like your dad did to me last night.

[Anonymous No.10132535]

>>10132430
if Rome is pleb tier entry level trash, where does that put GoT?

[Anonymous No.10132540]

>>10132535
Pleb tier entry level trash. But better, because it doesn't sully best rome

[Anonymous No.10132548]

>>10132540
ah. you wouldn't be a fan of Starz's Spatuhkus, would you?

[Anonymous No.10132561]

>>10132548
No I would not. I like I, claudius (the book) and Masters of Rome for my roman dramatization

[Anonymous No.10132564]

>>10131348
>smut
no it isnt. in the entire book theres like one part where the mc sleeps with someone and one blowjob joke. its neither are play by plays like for example good intentions. now thats real smut.

[Anonymous No.10132574]

>>10132561
oh okay. i was about to write you off as a standard /tv/ contrarian, but that makes sense. I should check those books out.

[Anonymous No.10132646]

Are there any good stand-alone or first-in-a-new-series books for 2017, either fantasy or science fiction?

[Anonymous No.10132721]

Just finished pic related, I really like how this series is written, with aliens being unique bun not completely sliding into planet of hats, and the whole one ship against the universe gig, so many books do shamelessly and without putting any effort into it, being well justified for once.

I really recommend it if you are looking for something to read, it's not particularly hard, but neither is it soft, it respects it characters , develops and if it decides to kill one it always feels right to me., something so many sci-fi series utterly fail at.

[Anonymous No.10132793]

>>10132193
Cheers, I'll give them both a look

[Anonymous No.10132799]

How do you guys feel about Iain M. Bank's The Culture series?
I'm probably gonna cop the first book soon but I wanted opinions

[Anonymous No.10132829]

>>10132799
It's real good but some people don't like Consider (the first book) if you aren't sold by it try use of weapons or player of games

[Anonymous No.10132855]

>>10132829
I've heard people go crazy of Use and Player so I'm willing to stick with it, I really like the societal idea of the Culture so I'm pretty hype to explore it

[Anonymous No.10132893]

what should I read next

[Anonymous No.10132894]

Been reading a lot of Ben Bova recently: Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury. I tried to get into Far Side a few days ago but after Mercury I just feltl burnt out. Bova's a decent read but read too much and you start to feel icky. I guess I mean to say his books are like comfort food.

Ishiguro winning the nobel prize reminded me of him, so I may start through his stuff. I've only read The Buried Giant which is apparently very different from his other stuff but I loved it. I've never read a book similar to it. Any books you'd recommend to people who liked the Buried Giant?

[Anonymous No.10132897]

>>10132799
Overall they're great, but the first book doesn't match up to the rest, given its general aimlessness and Banks' not yet having learned how to write action scenes.

[Anonymous No.10132902]

>>10131540
Is refusing to molest black children a hate crime now?

[Anonymous No.10133043]

>>10129312
Ah yes, the prose. The prooooooose. the PROOOOOOOSE. There's a reason why the pseuds on this website are always so willing to talk about "the prose" of a book when discussing its merits or flaws. Why attempt to analyze the merits and effects of the literary devices used to add to the development of characters, why attempt to understand the interplay of the perspectives of different characters and the emphasis this places on different themes, the spectrum of ironies used throughout the novel, the historical significance of the novel and the influence it has spawned in literary tradition or the influences seen throughout the work, the specific structure and literary underpinnings of the novel and the way it influences the tone, the author's relationship to the characters and the theme, the presentation of the novel itself to the audience and thus the relationship between reader and text --- why do any of this, when you could talk about "the prose?" You know that you have such a deep understanding of the book, don't you, when you talk about "the prose," the "musicality of it," the "sparseness." What a great artistic touch you have, don't you! Such a highly refined poetic sense! And you feel like such a true reader of literature when you are able to compare these styles: "I am partial to the lyricism of Joyce's prose, as well as the clean and scientific prose of Borges," you might say. What a deep understanding you show! Because the "prose" of a work is such an accessible topic, something that is felt immediately in the body and senses, a nice little sensation and flutter of the heart. Art obviously has nothing else to it, nothing other than the little sensations that I experience, because why should i attempt to understand it on a deeper level than this, when I have such a "refined" sense of the "prose?" Why even attempt to analyze the prose and the poetic and rhythmical underpinnings of it, when I could use a pretty little metaphor for it? It matters little that virtually every reader of literature has access to the music of the words and so my understanding is not quite so advanced as I would think, that form is something that goes hand in hand with theme, that I missed all the deep relationships between characters and between text and reader that existed in the work and that comprise a large part of the literary merit of the text, for my understanding of "the prose" shows such a mastery of language, a fine-tuned sense of the magical flow of the words! Having understood this work, I may as well move onto the next, the next bundle of pretty sensations to experience, the next bagful of fun linguistic treats!

[Anonymous No.10133044]

>>10132721
I'm about a quarter into it right now, don't spoil it for me. :V

I also like the series for giving Berserkers actual characterization instead of just being "beep boop kill all flesh." Probably one of the better mil-SF series out there right now, though it's perhaps better described as a adventure series where everybody just happens to be in the military.

[Anonymous No.10133074]

>>10133043
That's some very hostile prose.

[Anonymous No.10133110]

>>10133043
lel butthurt much?

[Anonymous No.10133168]

>>10133044
Yeah, developing them and not just one faction like an actual sentient race(s?) with it's own implications and considerations was brilliant. it got a bit too "clever" and pleased with itself a couple times, which I din't like, but overall it was a great move.

>adventure series where everybody just happens to be in the military
MilSF and Space Opera almost always walk hand in hand, but few manage it as well as this series, I agree.

[Anonymous No.10133367]

>>10133110
He's right though. I'm also getting pretty sick of pseuds pretending to be literary by talking about prose. It's actually one of the easiest ways to spot that somebody is a pretentious twat talking out of their ass, if their first and usually only criticism of an author or book is regarding the prose.

[Anonymous No.10133398]

>>10133043
>>10133367
He is pretty on the ball.

[Anonymous No.10133428]

>>10131049
The Library at Mount Char

[Anonymous No.10133437]

>>10133367
>He's right though. I'm also getting pretty sick of pseuds pretending to be culinary by talking about taste. It's actually one of the easiest ways to spot that somebody is a pretentious twat talking out of their ass, if their first and usually only criticism of a chef or dish is regarding the taste.

[Anonymous No.10133438]

>>10133043
Your prose is nigh unreadable my guy.
Try spacing things out with some paragraphs.

[Anonymous No.10133517]

>Only mobilism has the audiobook
>Not on APB
>The links are dead
REEEEE

[Anonymous No.10133523]

>>10133043
Hey girl, I just don't care for books written with an informal voice. It's not a deal breaker, but I can only read so many books. Peddle your pasta elsewhere, say, outer/lit/.

[Anonymous No.10133650]

How similar to epic fantasy is Dune?

[Anonymous No.10133677]

>>10125305
>>10125115
The only book ive read where the elves are vegetarians its pic related

I dont remember anything like that in Tolkiens

[Anonymous No.10133688]

>>10133677
Inheritance made me hate elves for a good while desu.

[Anonymous No.10133698]

>>10133688
I also prefer something more masc

[Anonymous No.10133726]

how did the kingdoms work in Sabriel?

[Anonymous No.10133746]

I have a question about Cthulhu, is this the thread to ask in?

[Anonymous No.10133756]

>>10124638
I've read the whole series - Think blood song was the best, somehow being a full time writer did not make the sequels better ...

[Anonymous No.10133766]

I'm currently a good way in to the DragonLance universe - and speculating about starting on The Forgotten Realms - any one with a suggestion were to start?

[Anonymous No.10133777]

>>10133726
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.10133799]

>>10131699
By definition there isn't.

[Anonymous No.10133833]

>>10133746
What's the question?

[Anonymous No.10133853]

>>10133833
so there are real life cults based on Cthulhu but how does that work when the guy who created him has said it's fictional

[Anonymous No.10133868]

>>10133853
They're just fedora type guys who also happen to be attention whores. There are also people that live based on gorms ideology and that's also fictional

[Anonymous No.10133882]

>>10133777
The old kingdom and the new one, wall separating them. barely any magic on one side

[Anonymous No.10133895]

What's a book that reads like this sounds? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeGv-QtHyaA

[Anonymous No.10133898]

>>10133882
I think I remember reading something about it being a different plane of existence. Which explains not only the difference in magic, but also the slightly different seasons and constellations.

Nix isn't that heavy on the exposition of his world though.

[Anonymous No.10134026]

>>10127613
It one of the best! and the universe is huge and really catching...

[Anonymous No.10134033]

>>10127712
Dragons of Autumn Twilight
Dragons of Winter Night
Dragons of Spring Dawning
Time of the Twins
War of the Twins
Test of the Twins
Forget the beginning and start were this dude said - then you can go from there, both forewords and backwards "in time"

[Anonymous No.10134067]

>>10133726
>>10133882
Magic stops working in the new kingdom (it works in bits close to the wall).
Technology stops working in the old kingdom (and sometimes bits of the new kingdom close to the wall).
The wall is difficult for free magic beings to cross because it has charter marks designed to prevent that.

I can't remember if there is an in-universe justification of why magic only works on one side but it might be to do with charter stones or the wall itself.

[Anonymous No.10134091]

books with dark elves, preferably romance. maybe some sort of "isekai" deal or just high fantasy or maybe some shadowrun style cyberpunk.
go.

[Anonymous No.10134147]

>>10134091
>books with dark elves, preferably romance. maybe some sort of "isekai" deal or just high fantasy
Eugenio Loboe's "Wizard Knight" is the answer here, Anon.

[Anonymous No.10134165]

Good shill. Let's work together

[Anonymous No.10134213]

Neue Bed. Don't shit in it.
>>10134202
>>10134202
>>10134202
>>10134202

[Anonymous No.10134242]

>>10133726
>>10133882
If you read all 5 books, and you're not a brainlet, i.e, can think beyond what the author says, you will find out why. It's explained in the books, but I'm not spoonfeeding anyone.

[Anonymous No.10134301]

>>10133367
They were asking how bad the writing in a book that looks like shit was.

That's a perfectly valid question you tiresome cunt

[Anonymous No.10134540]

>>10134301
If he actually cared about the book being badly written he would have asked about how it handled characterization, inconsistencies and plot holes it has, whether or not it manages to convey a theme properly. You know, things that actually matter regarding the content of the book. Asking about the prose when somebody tells you a book is bad is like somebody warning you not to buy a house and then you ask if it's because it has an odd number of steps leading to the second floor instead of an even number.

[Anonymous No.10134574]

>>10134540
I asked a question of style, not merit. It's okay anon, outer/lit/ can't hurt you here.

[Anonymous No.10134599]

>>10134540
prose is a short hand for that long list of different questions you wrote out

everyone but you gets this