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>> No.10122949

We have never been modern.

>> No.10123014

>>10122928
Move to Alaska and live off the land instead of posting on a Sicilian Vespers Stilleto Sharpening Clubhouse

>> No.10123020

>>10123014
>Sicilian Vespers Stilleto Sharpening Clubhouse

This is clearly an Austrian Cauliflower Grinding Collective

>> No.10123028
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10123028

>revolt against modernity!
>is a nazi

>> No.10123037

>>10123028
No, I'm not. Where'd you get that from?

>> No.10123046

Give me a step by step guide on how you plan to reverse modernity

>> No.10123056

>>10123046
Economic collapse followed by nuclear war in all first and second world countries lol?

>> No.10123065

>>10123014
>Move to Alaska
Don't, Alaska fucking sucks, everyone is an alcoholic, lot's of south Americans who can't get a job anywhere else, it's fucking cold, dangerous to drive, dark most of the year, bears everywhere eating from trashcans, and in the summer there are dense swarms of mosquitoes also NO CUTE GIRLS

>> No.10123078

Communists have the only real strategy of overcoming modernity. Every other philosophy is just whining about pointless shit and spreading Truth that nobody cares about.

>> No.10123080

>>10123078
Communism is modernity, moron.

>> No.10123085

>>10123065
I agree, a true escape would be to move out of America completely.

>> No.10123089

>>10122928
cringe

>> No.10123091

>>10123089
sperg

>> No.10123096

>>10122928
You mean by writing books at your mom's house in a wheelchair?

>> No.10123102

le tips*

>> No.10123103

>>10123096
Not an argument, ideas lead to action.

>> No.10123112

>>10123103
>action

You mean like writing books in your mom's basement?

>> No.10123163

>>10123112
Not an argument, ""''anonymous""".

>> No.10124728

REVOLT

>> No.10124799
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10124799

>"Revolting" against an inescapable process towards a baseless and ultimately inaccessible mode of being that you've only had access to via thoroughly modern and romanticized formulations present in media everywhere.
Reactionary/10

>> No.10124833

>>10124799
Not to mention that the presence of mass media, and your engagement with it that has lead you to want to revolt against "Modernity", inherently undermines your entire pseudo-intellectual goal. You're immersed in it OP, you've never had any access to previous historical worlds and you never will, get over it.

>> No.10124881

>>10122928
Modernism is alright, postmodernism sucks though.

>> No.10124891

>>10124881
Post-modernism is just self-aware modernism + ironic coping mechanisms

>> No.10124923

>>10124833
>Not to mention that the presence of mass media, and your engagement with it that has lead you to want to revolt against "Modernity", inherently undermines your entire pseudo-intellectual goal. You're immersed in it OP, you've never had any access to previous historical worlds and you never will, get over it.

Lmao, this brainlet thinks I'm a white man that grew up in a Western Capitalist society with a single mother like himself.

Speak for yourself, brainlet!

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10124973

>>10124923
>implying it race, class, and origin make any difference in this

>> No.10124978

>>10124973
Yes, brainlet. You think an African living in a tribe in the Jungle has the same experience as a white guy in New York city lol?

>> No.10124990
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>>10124978
>Doesn't this specific case about people removed from mass culture undermine your general point about reactionary traditionalism?

Hypothetical junglemen aren't posting online and don't have any desire to revolt against modernism to return to the daily life that they're already living.

>> No.10124994

I don't want to live in a world where everything is handed to people for free on a silver platter. If robots ever gain the ability to produce everything, human labour will become worthless amd we will all basically be their dogs

Yellowstone pls

>> No.10124998

>>10124990
>Hypothetical junglemen aren't posting online and don't have any desire to revolt against modernism to return to the daily life that they're already living.

Exactly, moron. The point is I'm not from a Modernist society and HAVE experienced that of which I speak so your assumptions are baseless.

Try another thread, moron.

>> No.10125005

>>10122928
he typed on his computer

>> No.10125006

>>10124998
Where are you from then jungleman?

>> No.10125009

>>10125005
DUDE, IF A SMOKER SAYS SMOKING IS BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH THEN THAT MEANS HE IS WRONG, LMAO

>> No.10125012

>>10125006
The blood that flows through my veins is the blood of the Ancient Medes.

>> No.10125014

>>10125009
you're not revolting against modernity in all its forms then.

you're simply a spoiled child.

>> No.10125020

>>10125014
This brainlet hasn't read Ride the Tiger and is thinking in terms of economy lol

The typical Capitalist argument, "i-if you b-buy coffee, then you can't be against c-capitalism".

>> No.10125021

>>10122928
Why would I want to revolt against the current era? There has never been a better time to love in all of history.

>> No.10125027

>>10125021
Good goy, I just loooooooove my Sundaes and Star Wars sequels :))))))

>> No.10125028

>>10125021
I think OP is an idiot but I think he means yes, on a shallow level, but at what cost to humanity/intellectualism/morality or whatever romanticized version of the past he believes in.

>> No.10125037

>>10125020
i'm not interested in the self-destructive ramblings of a fascist.

modernity has given rise to vast abundance, ever improving technology, and longer lifespans. while you offer yet another retarded ideology that will end up killing and immiserating millions.

>> No.10125038

>>10125028
>or whatever romanticized version of the past he believes in.

Fell for the Whig Linear Progression of History meme, brainlet?

>> No.10125039

>>10125037
1. I'm not a Fascist and

>modernity has given rise to vast abundance, ever improving technology, and longer lifespans.

2. I'm against all of these things, your point lol?

>> No.10125049

>>10125039
you're even more retarded than i thought.

>> No.10125054

>>10125049
You really don't get it, do you, brainlet?

:)

>> No.10125055

>>10125038
No, but reactionaries rarely consider the unfavorable aspects of a time period because they fetishise the past so much.

>> No.10125059

>>10125055
I accept both good and bad things about the past. I do not believe it was wholly good nor wholly bad.

Such debates are meaningless anyway, as one cannot measure such a thing due to the amount of variables and EVEN if one could it wouldn't matter.

I don't speak on these terms. These false notions. This """"economy"""".

>> No.10125062

>>10125059
It was less good and more bad, by any objective metric.

You're a silly person.

>> No.10125065

>>10125062
>by any objective metric.

Cringe lol! Go back to reading Richard Dawkins, buddy lol!

>> No.10125077

>>10125065
Are you disagreeing that it wasn't objectively worse, or are you using feels as your metric

>> No.10125084

>>10125077
Yawn, have to go through this boring pseudo-intellectual debate again.

Go on, brainlet. Define these objective classes/points so that we may assess them.

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>>10122928
>implying that the past was good
>implying that the future won't be even worse
>implying that the present isn't the calm before the storm
>implying that the ineffable Truth cannot be restored to its place of primacy, thus saving humans from themselves

Catholic Anarchism is the only way forward my friends...

>> No.10125091

>>10125087
t. Pacifist cuck

>> No.10125096

>>10125084
You're the one wanting who seemingly wants to destroy modernity while typing on a computer in a climate controlled room.

Explain why you're so emotional about this fetish for the past

And specifically which period in history

>> No.10125106

>>10125096
>You're the one wanting who seemingly wants to destroy modernity while typing on a computer in a climate controlled room.
>Explain why you're so emotional about this fetish for the past
>And specifically which period in history

Not an argument. You claimed multiple times that the past was "objectively" better yet when I ask you to define these metrics by which you have established this criteria, you fail to do so.

Very interesting!

Nonetheless, I don't believe in this brainlet debate in the first place. Debating "objectiveness" vs "subjectiveness" is brainlet-tier philosophy.

It seems you simply don't GET it and you may NEVER GET *it*.

Also, I don't care for climate controlled rooms :).

>> No.10125112

>>10125106
That's unfortunate, I expected you'd eventually argue in good faith. Too bad about your addiction to whatever this schtick is.

Take care bro.

>> No.10125198

>>10125037
t. Redditor

>> No.10125224

>>10123046
you can't reverse it, but you can still place yourself outside of it

>> No.10125228
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>>10125012

Lol. Fucking none of Cyrus left in your lot, just a lot of whinging whining hypocrites who can't regain control of your destiny, like everyone else. Fuck you. Yeah, the blood of AARON flows through my veins. I'm not issuing proclamations and leading the tribe towards the pillar of flame. You're masturbating to artificial self-image in a fearful effort at distraction from the maw of meaninglessness. Faggot.

>> No.10125231

>>10125087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6gHbyGLHw4
tHIS DESU

>> No.10125251

>>10125228
le it's all artificial

You still don't get it, do you, brainlet?

>> No.10125252

>>10125228
This tbqh

>> No.10125259

>>10125228
>Rambling: The Post

>> No.10125564

>>10124799
>>10124833

>You learned about Evola over the internet instead of through discovering his books in rundown second-hand bookstores ahahahaha what a hypocrite!
>I called you a psuedo-intellectual first now I win lmaooo
>You've never had access to previous historical worlds
>ahahah I dont know what books and art are even though Im making fun of your choice in literature

>> No.10125570

>>10125037
>Implying these are products of "modernity"

You dont know what the fuck you're talking about faggot. Do you actually think fans of Evola want to abolish technology or return to serfdom or something?

MUH FASCHISM

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10126751

>>10122928
Ok I will. Thanks for the suggestion OP.

>> No.10126759

Daily reminder that data is the new oil.

Daily reminder that there is no point trying to read someone's mind if they can be tricked into spilling out its contents onto the internet.

Daily reminder that the Jews are not your friend.

>> No.10126761

>>10124833
>Not to mention that the presence of mass media, and your engagement with it that has lead you to want to revolt against "Modernity", inherently undermines your entire pseudo-intellectual goal. You're immersed in it OP, you've never had any access to previous historical worlds and you never will, get over it.

How so? Literature, other Art and various kinds of documentation from pre-modern times exist and are widely available.

>> No.10126778

>>10123080
Did you skip the Greeks? Their sharecropping laws? The wealthy citizens paying for the poor citizens' tickets so they would be able to attend the theatres, which were one of the main forms of education? How illiterate are you? Basic principles of communism were applied long before Marx, in various cultures and areas.

>> No.10126894

At least one definition of modernism would have been helpful to this thread. Or a discussion about Brave New World, or We, considering all the chances for reference.

The lack of constructive dialog coupled with the lack of fairness given to each argument is truly what shows the degraded quality of intellect that appears on this board. That the overall degeneracy of this place has been due to influx from culturally specific groups is not near as accurate as saying that the glut of self-oblivious, the loud, proud ideologues, is a sure sign that the overall fundamentals of both rhetoric and human decency have not been kept to par anywhere were people have the luxury of time to post on a site such as this.

Rebellion is futile for all such pitiful citizens. You're passions lead you to speak much sooner than to think, and you show yourselves to be incapable of either. Therefore, you are channels, you are rivers, you are easily diverted containers of my sewage. Rebellion for you is futile except in run-off onto the land.

Go on my flow, go wayward into the maelstrom yon piss and shit - for the rivers must feast upon my progress, my encroaching humanity.

>> No.10126897

>>10125021
I think a few years ago was the best time to be alive, in the first world, for most people there.
But I think the future will become worse while it has potential to become better and had even more potential which we wasted.

>> No.10127150

>>10126778
>The wealthy citizens paying for the poor citizens' tickets so they would be able to attend the theatres, which were one of the main forms of education?
>Communism
Charity is not communism you moron. That's not even socialism. Communism is a state of economics where the labor theory of value has transcended the need for money and where the workers have taken control of their own surplus value and become their own owners.

>> No.10127158

>>10125037
>Fascists are luddites
Wat. They believe that technology has lead to emotional apathy and the destruction of Traditional models of behavior, sure, but that just means technology needs to be used carefully according to our own needs. Where the fuck did you get this meme from?

>> No.10127197

>>10123078
>an entirely materialistic view of life with absolutely no spiritual or transcendent values is overcoming modernity

>> No.10127251

>>10127197
I wouldn't use the word overcoming. That's used in a manner that symbolises that what is in the way is left intact as the agent vaults beyond it. Which, again, is not the appropriate word for that orderly savagery.

>> No.10128657

good thread

>> No.10128686

>>10125037
enjoy living life as a utility fagtron

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>>10123056