/lit/'s political compasses

[Anonymous No.10087028]

inb4 not a fully descriptive of ideology

[Anonymous No.10087036]

Obligatory

[Anonymous No.10087043]

I don't have it saved anymore but I scored left libertarian a few months ago

[Anonymous No.10087046]

>>10087028

Most everyone on this board is a red square, but fancies themselves a green square

[Anonymous No.10087064]

This was what I got last time I tested.

[Anonymous No.10087088]

>>10087046
fuck off or ten years in the gulag ;^)

[Anonymous No.10087103]

[Anonymous No.10087113]

Way purple
Obligatory these things never accurately reflect the individual, conceded this one probably works best.

[Anonymous No.10087118]

>What's good for the most successful corporations is always, ultimately, good for all of us.
What type of retard would agree?

[Anonymous No.10087136]

>>10087118
The kind of retard who agrees that "what is good for the nation is what is good for all of us," or, "what is good for society is good for all of us," and so on.

[Anonymous No.10087142]

[Anonymous No.10087156]

>>10087118
people could think that the companies make money by providing for people, and by providing better products of services, they make more money - successful corporations.

i disagree with this as people dont always have complete freedom of choice and many companies act against the interests of the consumer for increased profit. though i can see the logic and it can work for some examples

[Anonymous No.10087160]

>>10087136
The difference is that """society""" and """country""" can be interpreted to mean everyone (even though in practice it doesn't), but the corporations implicitly means the 1%

[Anonymous No.10087162]

Was bottom left, now probably just far left. When I take power I will force my gulag prisoners to make political charts for me

[Anonymous No.10087172]

>>10087142
Friends.

[Anonymous No.10087177]

>>10087028
Superior memetic test.

[Anonymous No.10087182]

>>10087160
Neoliberal economists use the argument that "what is good for corporations is good for all of us" all the time. It's a fairly logical one if you accept their initial assertion that the essence of the nation is its economy. It's just as logical as the arguments about society and the nation itself.

[Anonymous No.10087190]

Enjoy these free recommendations based on your results.

[Anonymous No.10087194]

>>10087182
I agree with what you're saying here (and actually put "agree" on the question) but the "always" gave the question a pretty clear slant

[Anonymous No.10087229]

Get on my level.

[Anonymous No.10087243]

>>10087177
>search for this
>5 dimensional political compass
>half the google search results link to r/thedonald

[Anonymous No.10087245]

[Anonymous No.10087417]

Want to be a fascist but I hate big business and don't trust anyone in control who isn't me. Populist is probably the best description, with delusions of divine right.

[Anonymous No.10087431]

>>10087417
>and don't trust anyone in control who isn't me
Why are you authoritarian at all?

[Anonymous No.10087432]

Horoscopes for "smart" people

[Anonymous No.10087459]

And yet dinomedia thinks we're all purple frogposters. Not so far in this sample.

[Anonymous No.10087467]

I am glad the silent majority is showing itself here. :^)

[Anonymous No.10087487]

>>10087432
this

[Anonymous No.10087552]

Kill capitalism before it kills you

[Anonymous No.10087558]

>>10087467
/lit/ has a larger majority of lefties since most people here actually read.

[Anonymous No.10087571]

>>10087103
i like sam hyde more than i care to admit

[Anonymous No.10087575]

>>10087431
Because I don't want to be called a 'cuck' by /pol/

[Anonymous No.10087582]

>>10087558
Wrong on both fronts

[Anonymous No.10087588]

>>10087558
>/lit/ has a larger majority of lefties since most of the people here are ensconced in academia
ftfy

[Anonymous No.10087600]

>>10087582
I might be out of touch because I'm rarely on 4chan anymore, but that's how it was before the election.

>>10087588
Academia teaches liberalism more than it does leftism. I'm certain that most people in political science courses can even explain what Marxism is and think it's just when the government does stuff.

[Anonymous No.10087601]

>>10087588
So being an academic makes you lean left while reveling in ignorance makes you lean right. Sure is Huckabee here.

[Anonymous No.10087605]

>>10087600
Can't even*

[Anonymous No.10087609]

>>10087601
>if you aren't an academic you're ignorant
No, you're right, it's baffling anyone would think you guys were condescending and out of touch.

[Anonymous No.10087612]

>>10087582
>>10087588
>this immediate damage control from cross-posters
Post charts, newfriends

[Anonymous No.10087616]

Its amazing how lefties all consider themselves so libertarian and supportive of freedom, but as soon as they get into power they want to control everything

[Anonymous No.10087622]

>>10087600
>Academia teaches liberalism more than it does leftism.
I don't know that that's particularly true. As I recall, there are more openlyl socialist professors than right-leaning.

[Anonymous No.10087623]

>>10087612
I posted the anime chart. I'm a solid Shimoneta.

[Anonymous No.10087645]

>>10087609
That wasn't the point of the comment. The point was describing the political landscape in these kinds of dichotomies is a joke, resigned to hacks like Huckabee.

If people would be more willing to compromise instead of dealing with caricatures people like Huntsman would be in office.

[Anonymous No.10087647]

>>10087623
I don't often watch anime, and though I would usually mock animeposters, I appreciate your honesty.

[Anonymous No.10087657]

I like Moldbug

Where does that put me on the chart (the questions on the actual quiz are godawful)?

[Anonymous No.10087660]

>>10087657
Why are the questions bad?

[Anonymous No.10087666]

>>10087616
there's no way to avoid control, the modern state and technology are inherently centralizing. rightists want to promote healthy family units while leftists want to turn everyone into blue haired genderfluid fursuiters and debase civilisation.

[Anonymous No.10087667]

Left-libertarianism is impossible. Left-wing economics implies that you want a highly controlled economy, and do not want people freely trading goods and services. As soon as you get in the way of free exchange, you cannot call yourself libertarian

[Anonymous No.10087675]

>>10087667
It is impossible, but that's because it's an-com, not because it's inherently self-defeating

[Anonymous No.10087676]

>all these leftists

[Anonymous No.10087685]

>>10087667
>Left-wing economics implies that you want a highly controlled economy

[Anonymous No.10087691]

>>10087685

It does.

[Anonymous No.10087692]

>>10087676
end yourself

[Anonymous No.10087699]

>>10087691
Bruh, a core component of Marxism is the abolishment of the state

[Anonymous No.10087700]

>>10087229
>Ultra-faggot

No thanks, I'll pass.

[Anonymous No.10087708]

>>10087699

They can claim that all they want, but that's never would it would actually look like. Any actual implementation of Marxism will lead to a high amount of control.

[Anonymous No.10087711]

>>10087708
Sure, it won't work. But that doesn't mean their philosophy implies centralized control. An-cap is stupid and impossible, too, but you wouldn't call them a fascist just because their form of government eventually requires some sort of enforcement.

[Anonymous No.10087722]

>>10087028

[Anonymous No.10087731]

>>10087708
What is your conception of an "implementation of Marxism"? Marx, December 7, 1867: "The subjective tendency of the author (which was perhaps imposed on him by his political position and his past), namely the manner in which he views and presents to others the ultimate results of the real movement, the real social process, has no relation to his own actual analysis."

Even Marx recognized that the later conclusions he published were bullshit. I don't know what strict model you think there is to follow.

[Anonymous No.10087746]

>>10087711

Collective ownership implies centralized control, state or no state.

[Anonymous No.10087766]

I was varying degrees of green when I took this a long time ago, but now when I try to take it I can't even answer most of the questions. It needs a no opinion option.

[Anonymous No.10087775]

>>10087190
>tfw green
>love spice & wolf and one piece
Besides, how are these socially conservative? The former is all about stronk independent female and the latter is full of trannies, and anti capitalism and economic exploitation.

What's the shit below planets?

>>10087558
>libertarianism
>right
Nice try, Burger.

>>10087588
Academia tends to be liberal not left as another anon already pointed out.

>>10087622
Depends on what you study. My business major only had neo liberals.

[Anonymous No.10087776]

>>10087708
>>10087667
the ultimate goal of marxism is the abolition of the political economy and the commodity form. a society in which production is no longer done for profit but a) to meet human needs and b) for the sake of human self creation. capitalism is by its very nature a highly controlled economy a runaway system that demands unsustainable growth and profit maximisation at all costs. a system that forces the great majority of people to sell their labor in order to survive

[Anonymous No.10087784]

>>10087746
You are thinking that an externality has to enforce this "collective ownership," which is totally against the purpose. No one is going to be enforcing any sort of property norms, except me, over my property. In a world where everyone else does likewise, the result is communism.

[Anonymous No.10087790]

>>10087775
Nothing on any of these charts measure social conservativeness. It's economic right vs left and Authoritarian vs Libertarian. One Piece is flat out libertarian, being about literal pirates fighting for freedom above all. Spice & Wolf is equally far right, from an economic perspective, and not particularly in favor of strong governing.

Bottom left is Kemono Friends.

[Anonymous No.10087791]

I had a feeling I was economically pretty centrist (the common-sense mixed approach). Politically I tend to support the right-wing, though. Maybe if the left-wing parties stopped opening the immigration floodgates and doing all their diversity and tolerance shit they might be more acceptable.

[Anonymous No.10087793]

>>10087784
you just described ancap

[Anonymous No.10087794]

>>10087775
>Depends on what you study. My business major only had neo liberals.
No, I mean I recall a survey being done, and Universities have more openly socialist professors than the entirety of the right half of the spectrum. It's a distinctly leftist environment.

[Anonymous No.10087797]

>>10087775
>>libertarianism
>>right
>Nice try, Burger.
You're not reading these charts correctly.

[Anonymous No.10087804]

>>10087793
There's no buying and selling in marxism, people freely give what they have to whoever needs it.

[Anonymous No.10087806]

>>10087793
No, because Acap has businesses which assert their property over means of production which should be owned by everyone, and regulate their control of labor through the manipulation of currency.

[Anonymous No.10087812]

>>10087793
No, I didn't. Anarcho-capitalists believe in a "private property covenant," which requires a state. People like Hermann-Hoppe are statists pretending to be anarchists. It shows in their bloodthirsty hatred of communists

[Anonymous No.10087814]

I'm not into politics but could someone explain what this means for me? Some questions were vague and I might not have understood them best, so there might be some error here, but generally what does this mean for my concern?

[Anonymous No.10087818]

>>10087814
You're what American politics calls a Libertarian

[Anonymous No.10087823]

>>10087818
Is that good or bad? I'm VERY slightly "right" and about half-way to full Libertarian... is that bad or good ?

[Anonymous No.10087828]

>>10087823
>is a political ideology good or bad?
lol
Like, nigga, it's just what you believe about politics. Only stupid people make moral judgements about that. The only use this really has is to let you know where to find people who agree with you

[Anonymous No.10087834]

>>10087828
Oh ok. I honestly don't even like the idea of getting a label, I just did it for the meme. I think my own views differ a lot and are a lot more specific than their vague questions on the test which forced me to answer one way or another.

[Anonymous No.10087839]

>>10087834
If you want anything specific out of this thread, go check the anime chart for your match

[Anonymous No.10087841]

>>10087804
>people freely give what they have to whoever needs it.

And who makes them do that? People are not going to do this naturally on their own

[Anonymous No.10087846]

>>10087841
Like I said, it's not feasible, but that doesn't mean the ideology implies central control. Quit being obtuse.

[Anonymous No.10087847]

>>10087823
it's bad, means you are a fucking paedo

[Anonymous No.10087851]

>>10087847
Nice shitpost.
What's your alignment?

[Anonymous No.10087854]

>>10087622
Like I said, there is a difference between liberalism than socialism. Socialism is the rejection of capitalism, not simply reforming capitalism. Liberals that call themselves socialists are people that listened to conservative propaganda on socialism and thought it sounded like a good idea.

[Anonymous No.10087856]

>>10087841
>People are not going to do this naturally on their own
They have never had the capacity to do it. This is what technological development allows for.

[Anonymous No.10087857]

This compass/test is such complete garbage, these questions are awful. Answering "agree" to a question like "there is a worrying fusion of information and entertainment" will undoubtedly put you higher on the y-axis, even if it's just a personal opinion and not something you want government to control.

[Anonymous No.10087861]

>tfw pleb

[Anonymous No.10087868]

>>10087791
I voted right-wing in our last general election (not US) for similar reasons, though my compass has me in the green field.

[Anonymous No.10087881]

>>10087790
>Nothing on any of these charts measure social conservativeness.
The entire right side is more socially conservative supporting hierarchies. Violet justifying these with economical power.

>literal pirates fighting for freedom above all
Not economic freedom, since the protagonists don't pirate for shit and help pretty much every oppressed fuck on their way. Helping others without any profit for yourself doesn't sound too right wing. And the antagonist of almost every arc was someone who took their freedom to oppress others too far, often based on their economic power, which would be perfectly consistent with the world view but made them the bad guy. Tenryuubito as the rich guys with absolute power thanks to their wealth and status are presented as main antagonists as well.

Spice & Wolf is more tricky, I don't recall the protagonists attitudes towards the economics too much outside of using them to their advantage.

>Kemono Friends
>Japari Park is an untamed paradise where many humanoid animals, known as "Friends," live their everyday lives in all corners of the natural environmental park.
Uhh. The chart is a lie.

[Anonymous No.10087886]

I'm right wing but I hate the cultural and social effects of capitalism. But at the same time I think that any 'anti-capitalist' movement is doomed at best and tyrannical at worst.

All h-hail Gnon...

[Anonymous No.10087889]

>Mothers may have careers, but their first duty is to be homemakers.

Were this phrased as "Fathers may have careers, but their duty is to their children and/or spouse", most would have no problem agreeing. The use of the word "homemaker" is to trigger feminist/SJWs straight to the "strongly disagree" button. Not realizing that what they've signed up for is their boring shitty job over their own son.

[Anonymous No.10087890]

>>10087881
Japari Park is the epitome of a left-libertarian utopia. All basic needs are provided for, and problems are solved through mutual, free cooperation. Cafes, transportation, and even construction efforts are all done by Friends, free of charge, to help anyone in need.

[Anonymous No.10087891]

>>10087190
Can't see One Piece as right-wing. The main character's father is basically a socialist revolutionary and is painted in a positive light so far (except by the WG).

[Anonymous No.10087892]

>>10087847
kek

[Anonymous No.10087907]

>>10087857
8values is much better in my opinion

[Anonymous No.10087914]

>>10087881
>>10087891
The two drivers for the Strawhat crew are Luffy and Nami. Luffy is driven by a lust for adventure and a desire for pure freedom. Nami is driven by an equal mix of compassion and greed. It results in the crew fighting back against anyone who violates the NAP, and then charging the people they help. I stand by One Piece as an-cap, even if not all of its heroic characters perfectly fit that categorization.

[Anonymous No.10087920]

I'm better than all of you.

[Anonymous No.10087927]

>>10087616
Large corporations buy out those "lefties" you speak of. Just like they do with all politicians.

[Anonymous No.10087928]

>>10087889
It's interesting that you seem to have moderately socially conservative views and yet are in the bottom left square. How would you describe yourself ideologically?

[Anonymous No.10087935]

>>10087928

He's probably liberal on social issues like gay marriage and pornography. That's enough to put blue conservatives into the green box.

[Anonymous No.10087946]

I'm moderate right when it comes to social issues.

[Anonymous No.10087951]

>>10087946

[Anonymous No.10087952]

>>10087190
Sauce me on row 3 column 2 sempai.

[Anonymous No.10087953]

>>10087914
Luffy can't be an ancap though, he hasn't molested a single child.

[Anonymous No.10087954]

>>10087616
you realize that the administrative state perpetuates itself, yeah? No radical change in government is going to occur through the legitimate election of one political party, because the views of said party are neutered by the state and the wider democratic process before it is placed on the ballot.

[Anonymous No.10087955]

>>10087890
Left libertarianism still got aspects of capitalism though. Only the basic needs bit is necessary.

>>10087914
There are the desires of the crew but there is also the overall story and messages. And the powerful and rich tend to be the bad guys. Besides, there is a disconnect between the things characters say and do. Take Namis greed, it's never aimed at the weaker, making it more of quirk than real greed. Luffy loved adventure but is willing to make a stop and help anyone, despite saying that he isn't a hero. He also gets mad over shit that doesn't concern him, like antagonists abusing their own people. Wouldn't a true an-cap look the other way and focus on his business and benefit? What about Sanji feeding every fuck for free or Zorro helping random people without any gain at his own risk?

Though most of the other crew members would kinda fit into anarchist box, the overall story focuses too much on compassion and economic oppression of others.

[Anonymous No.10087962]

>>10087907
:) tfw you are strongly opposed to abortion

[Anonymous No.10087964]

>>10087953
That would violate the NAP. Unless of course that child was his property.

[Anonymous No.10087965]

>>10087952
Nigga, that's fucking Nadia. You should know that one.

[Anonymous No.10087972]

>>10087955
I think you've gotten some really weird ideas in your head about an-cap, mostly because you bought into the memes and believe they're genuinely evil people. If you believe in a system where capitalism is a good form of economy, but you follow no central government, then you're an-cap. Nothing forbids or even discourages charity in such a society.

And Left libertarianism does not maintain capitalism, the point of this chart is that if it's all the way to the left it is not capitalist, and there is no capitalism in Japari Park.

[Anonymous No.10087974]

>>10087964
He wasn't very found of the idea of others becoming property.

[Anonymous No.10087980]

>>10087974
They were being kidnapped and sold into slavery, which violates the NAP

[Anonymous No.10087987]

>>10087980
Not the guy you replied to, but Luffy seems like a 'freedom for all' kind of guy, the idea of someone owning someone else likely wouldn't fly with him at all.

[Anonymous No.10087988]

>>10087928
>How would you describe yourself ideologically?

I'm a leftist who embraces personal responsibility and hates identity politics. But I like Nietzsche, so it gets tricky. I feel like when I was younger there was a part of the radical left that embraced a do-it-yourself mentality, the strength of your agency against oppression, and that violently opposed globalization. Along the lines of Feral Faun. But it seems to have disappeared.

You say that I seem moderately socially conservative because I think a parent should value his family over a career? To me that's pretty basic humanitarianism.

[Anonymous No.10087990]

>>10087987
That includes the ability to sell yourself into slavery, which is the only kind that doesn't violate the NAP. Rayleigh does that on the regular, and Luffy doesn't seem particularly concerned.

[Anonymous No.10087994]

>>10087988
>I'm a leftist who embraces personal responsibility and hates identity politics. But I like Nietzsche, so it gets tricky
Read Stirner

[Anonymous No.10087996]

[Anonymous No.10088004]

>Astrology accurately explains many things
>Some people are naturally unlucky

Why do these political tests always try to ascribe politicalness to non-political things?

[Anonymous No.10088007]

>>10087988
It would be considered right wing in a modern western country.

[Anonymous No.10088017]

>>10087972
>mostly because you bought into the memes and believe they're genuinely evil people.
"Evil", come on, this is /lit/. I find most not empathetic enough to needs of others and naive in the belief that non enforced charity will somehow be enough to tend to the needy.

>Nothing forbids or even discourages charity in such a society.
Sure but it's not really encouraged either, the problems of others aren't yours. From a business perspective, helping others without any gains for you is an irrational action.

How is butting into everyones life as the SHs do an-cap? How does the portrayal of every antagonist as a rich and/or powerful guy in support of unregulated capitalism?

>Left libertarianism does not maintain capitalism
That'd be left-wing market anarchism. Left libertarianism isn't against private property or market per se.

>>10087990
Rayleigh never planned to become a slave, he put his life as a wager and wanted to rip off his owner. Sounds pretty anti NAP.

>>10088004
>being spiritual/religious
>not related to politics

[Anonymous No.10088036]

>>10087990
Rayleigh is also capable of taking on entire armies by himself. The idea that he's really 'owned' by other people is a stretch even though he sells himself into slavery.

>>10088017
Also what this guy said.

[Anonymous No.10088039]

>ywn transcend to the ranks of radical centrism

[Anonymous No.10088044]

>>10088039
Do you have any opinions at all?

[Anonymous No.10088046]

>>10087994
fuck you. if youve actually read stirner, youre a retard

[Anonymous No.10088051]

>>10088039
Centrists are the most susceptible to propaganda.

[Anonymous No.10088052]

>>10088017
Being religious isn't solely a left or right thing, pic related and Nazi Occultism exist for example.
>inb4 horseshoe theory
I get that stereotypes exist for a reason but this test just pisses me off over how much it relies on them.

[Anonymous No.10088068]

>>10088052
It's generally pretty authoritarian though and in support of hierarchies.

Besides the "naturally" part could add too nature/nurture outlook.

[Anonymous No.10088069]

>>10088044
i believe the nation state should be maintained but i also believe it should be congruent with a global authority for specific issues like climate change
>>10088051
mate we are too rational™ for that

[Anonymous No.10088070]

>>10088046
spooky

[Anonymous No.10088071]

>>10088017
An-cap is a political ideology, not a moral framework. "Irrational actions" are perfectly fine in an an-cap society, and, indeed, you should feel free to do whatever it is that you want. The Strawhats want to help these people that they see as friends, so they do, that's all there is to it. Also, there are plenty of wealthy people portrayed as good in OP, too. Kaya, Pappag, and Iceberg are all good, wealthy, capitalists. It's clear that there's nothing inherently evil about wealth in OP.

[Anonymous No.10088079]

>>10088004

Statecraft is soulcraft

[Anonymous No.10088089]

>Tfw basically literally national socialist as in "social programs are desirable within an ethnically homogenous nation"
>Doesn't compute with tard algorithm so I'm a centrist now

[Anonymous No.10088090]

>>10088046
How does reading something make one dumber, exactly?

[Anonymous No.10088097]

>>10088090
Check out /v/ or /pol/ and you'll find that answer

[Anonymous No.10088102]

>>10088079
Statecraft is warcraft

[Anonymous No.10088108]

>>10088097
Nice meme argument, retard

[Anonymous No.10088110]

>>10088102
Warcraft is pissbottlecraft

[Anonymous No.10088113]

>>10088102
Starcraft is fun

[Anonymous No.10088114]

>>10088108
I think this is my favorite one yet

[Anonymous No.10088115]

>>10088113
"GG, but yr time is up, Anon. Any final words ;)?"

[Anonymous No.10088119]

>>10088115
>>10088113
Meant to post this picture. I always ruin the joke, especially when it's bad to begin with.

[Anonymous No.10088123]

>>10088108
I'm on your side if you're the guy I replied to; I was making a sarcastic statement.

[Anonymous No.10088128]

>>10088079
>>10088102
SoulState is craftcraft

[Anonymous No.10088141]

>>10088071
>The Strawhats want to help these people that they see as friends, so they do, that's all there is to it.
But these is portrayed as the right choice, all the time, wouldn't a true an-cap outlook at least add some variation? "Nah, fuck these lazy fishmen, they don't deserve our help and should pull themselves by their bootstraps."

>there are plenty of wealthy people portrayed as good in OP, too.
True but they all tend to share some of their wealth with others. It's also true that wealth isn't presented as inherently evil but at the same time, all the characters we're supposed to root for, act unselfish most of the time, even when they are initially presented as self focused. Wouldn't the an-cap message be more about NAP instead of "You're free but fuck you, if you don't help others".

[Anonymous No.10088151]

>>10088141
>wouldn't a true an-cap outlook at least add some variation?
No, an-cap is not objectivism. It is not a moral framework. There is nothing in anarcho-capitalism that implies or encourages calloussness. I think the problem really is that you've added a whole lot of baggage to an-cap that just isn't supposed to be there. It's a very simple ideology: there should be no governmental restrictions on people's lives and the best economy is a capitalist one. The strawhats adhere to these two beliefs.

[Anonymous No.10088163]

>>10087886
>I'm right wing but I hate the cultural and social effects of capitalism

Honestly as a lefty this is something I can sympathize with. People have more or less heard every other anti-capitalist argument and have pretty much accepted them being true without disavowing the system. If the left focused on the decaying affect Globalist Capitalism has on cultures and moral values we'd probably get much farther.

[Anonymous No.10088164]

>>10088141
Also,
>True but they all tend to share some of their wealth with others.
Of course they do. I think you have not talked with many true an-caps, because their problem is not that they are cold, but that they are too idealistic. They all say that private charity will definitely step in and help the unfortunate in an an-cap society.

[Anonymous No.10088204]

>>10088163
because despite its flaws, it's the most successful system we've theorised. No one wants to risk the bread lines again

[Anonymous No.10088209]

>>10088151
>there should be no governmental restrictions on people's lives and the best economy is a capitalist one.
Even if we roll with these definitions, the SHs never showed to care about any of that too much. They found the separation between toys and humans interesting and Nami as the only one with economic sense, acts according to her morals instead of any economic model. Plus half of the time they get free shit, while the other half monetary rewards they didn't even ask for.

>>10088164
>because their problem is not that they are cold, but that they are too idealistic.
Some definitely are but generally, the idea to leave something like that to idealism seems kinda ... well, not too thoughtful in "oh, the poor, don't worry, this will work, they'll be fine. Can we go back talking about NAP and how taxation is theft?" way. Communists tend to be too idealistic too but they consider the side of the unfortunate with much more thought. Not doing it seems pretty cold, not in a sociopathic way but just selfish with more focus on their own potential gains. Which is perfectly human of course.

[Anonymous No.10088214]

I don't even browse /pol/ either.

[Anonymous No.10088218]

>>10088209
>acts according to her morals instead of any economic model.
Yes, because nothing in anarcho-capitalism says that you should act according to an economic model. I genuinely think you just don't understand them, and it's too frustrating to keep defending a group I don't even agree with. I stand by where I placed One Piece, but I would be very interested in seeing you craft your own version of the chart with whichever anime you think suits the spot better.

[Anonymous No.10088220]

>>10088204
The Soviet Union actually had a higher average calorie consumption than the United States. Breadlines were absolutely not exclusive to the Soviets.

[Anonymous No.10088226]

the idea that you can map politics on an x-y axis is the dumbest I've read in weeks

[Anonymous No.10088230]

>>10088226
Considering most people map it on a single axis, this is an improvement

[Anonymous No.10088237]

>>10088218
>your own version of the chart with whichever anime you think suits the spot better.
Dear Lord, as tempting as it'd be the amount of work, even my procrastination got limits, maybe sometimes else. I do appreciate the effort that went into it and like the idea. Would be definitely cool seeing more charts like that for sure.

[Anonymous No.10088253]

>>10087746
No, "private" ownership implies centralized control, as well as a state. I use "private" in quotes, because the way that private property always has functioned & always will is as a mutual ownership between a capitalist and the state. Collective ownership is property without an implicit statement of force

[Anonymous No.10088257]

>>10088230
no, calling something left-wing or right-wing can be useful to describe it in broad strokes. quantifying and mapping political ideas is infinitely stupider, because they aren't fungible

[Anonymous No.10088258]

>>10087431
Because I was born to be a merciful and just philosopher king but the plebs in charge just don't get it.

[Anonymous No.10088259]

>>10088220
calories ≠ nutrition

[Anonymous No.10088260]

>>10088258
I don't believe in equality- the lie that is the true opiate of the masses. However, greatness is not often rewarded as it should be. He who builds on the people builds on mud.

[Anonymous No.10088278]

>>10087142
>>10087172
Pals

[Anonymous No.10088331]

Note I was more center libertarian under a year ago.

[Anonymous No.10088376]

>tfw top most part on the y axis but don't have my test on mobile
You're all a bunch of worthless do nothings. Seize the future Faustian man!

[Anonymous No.10088379]

>>10087558
The most pseud Reddit thing I’ve read all day. Most of the greatest literature was written by people who would be called right-wing fascists by little fags like you today. Go stroke your ego and jerk yourself off on /leftypol/.

[Anonymous No.10088387]

>>10087699
Bruh, like dude, like groovy man, look at every single instance of lefties ever being in power anywhere, my dude. When will you people stop hiding behind a theoretical utopia where human nature doesn’t exist and everything works perfectly for lefties?

[Anonymous No.10088393]

>>10088052
Yes, Christianity – and religion in general – has always been embraced, and not persecuted, by communist states.

[Anonymous No.10088398]

>>10088387
Nigga, I ain't even leftist, I'm just interested in seeing where people land regardless of practicality. You sound real butthurt about it, though

[Anonymous No.10088417]

>>10088379
>The most pseud Reddit thing I’ve read all day
I don't use Reddit though
>people who would be called right-wing fascists by little fags like you today
pic related
>Go stroke your ego and jerk yourself off on /leftypol/
okay

[Anonymous No.10088434]

>>10088417
Are you seriously denying the steep conservative slant of the western canon? You think Homer was a commie and Shakespeare too? You’re a footnote in history book of humanity. War, genocide, patriarchy and hierarchy is the natural state of man.

[Anonymous No.10088436]

[Anonymous No.10088444]

>>10088434
Holy fuck, you're really putting words in my mouth. I never claimed any of those people were fascists. Conservative is not fascist. Settle down, kid.

[Anonymous No.10088445]

>>10087558
Not history it seems.

[Anonymous No.10088448]

nearly at the center desu

[Anonymous No.10088462]

[Anonymous No.10088480]

>>10088434
Shakespeare was ridiculously liberal in a period when liberalism didn't even officially exist.

[Anonymous No.10088483]

>>10087142
>>10087172
>>10088278
Numale faggots.

[Anonymous No.10088485]

>>10088480
The way he replied he acts like modern political identities even existed hundreds of years ago.

[Anonymous No.10088489]

>>10088480
Historical revisionism belongs on /leftypol/.

[Anonymous No.10088499]

>>10088489
In what way is he wrong?

[Anonymous No.10088505]

>>10088485
Can you read, buddy? I said ‘people who would be called right-wing fascists by little fags like you today’. If they were around today you would be calling them fascists. You’re right though, modern political identities didn’t exist hundreds of years ago (not that I said they did; again, can you read?) because subhumans like yourself would have been killed, as is the way it should be.

[Anonymous No.10088506]

the virgin left-right dichotomy vs the chad georgism

[Anonymous No.10088507]

>>10087552
Nick Land is a pseudo-marxist

[Anonymous No.10088513]

>>10088505
but nobody here is calling them fascist, and the way you talk reminds me of a kid I knew that got bullied in middle school.

[Anonymous No.10088522]

/lit/ and literature as a whole has always been conservative

[Anonymous No.10088525]

>>10088434
>War, genocide, patriarchy and hierarchy is the natural state of man.
spoopy

[Anonymous No.10088543]

>>10088434

[Anonymous No.10088553]

[Anonymous No.10088563]

>>10087028
>>10087722
>>10087814
>>10087920
>>10088331
>>10088436
>>10088522
You guys are cool, you guys wanna start a book club?
Fuck lefties

[Anonymous No.10088574]

>>10088563
>wanna start a book club?
lmao nerd

[Anonymous No.10088583]

>>10088563
i don't like lib rights though

[Anonymous No.10088587]

>>10088553
Patrician

[Anonymous No.10088602]

Please tell me the leftists are just trolling us. Don't they know they are unwelcome on 4chan?

>>10088563
Thank you

[Anonymous No.10088609]

>>10088602
>Please tell me the leftists are just trolling us
It's the easiest thing in the world to do.

[Anonymous No.10088623]

>>10087028
>falling into the right-left political spectrum
no thanks

[Anonymous No.10088626]

>>10088602
4chan is actually pretty divided these days... have you seen pol recently?

[Anonymous No.10088637]

>>10088626
/pol/ holds the same beliefs, just differences on how they are enforced

[Anonymous No.10088638]

Spekr is better.
The problem is it visually updates the chart at each question, that may bias the result.
>https://spekr.org/
>also that many commies ITT

[Anonymous No.10088641]

>>10088637
>over half of /pol/ is leftist now that want socialism
oh ok

[Anonymous No.10088649]

>this thread
>vomiting_anime_girl.jpg

[Anonymous No.10088654]

>>10088649

[Anonymous No.10088655]

>>10088609
But baka, the left can’t meme.

[Anonymous No.10088656]

>>10088641
A good third of /pol/ has always been various blends of pseudo-nazis. But post-crypto-post-modern lefties insist that not being bizarro-value-universalism = right wing, when it doesn't even make sense historically or ideologically.

[Anonymous No.10088660]

[Anonymous No.10088669]

>>10088660
there is like 1 jew in the US government and kushner

[Anonymous No.10088671]

>>10088638
pretty neat site

[Anonymous No.10088677]

[Anonymous No.10088679]

If you aren't in the blue I've got bad news for you

[Anonymous No.10088682]

>>10088655
The left can't do anything right

[Anonymous No.10088694]

>>10087182
>if I redefine the term nation then I win

Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.10088695]

[Anonymous No.10088698]

the questions are always utter shit because they act as if you can get the whole nuance of personal preference from a simple strongly dis/agree or unsure

[Anonymous No.10088707]

>>10088669
Trump isn't a Jew.

>>10088655
Anti-Trump memes not made ironically suck because otherwise they come from reddit/normalfags

Pic related

[Anonymous No.10088708]

>trusting the cultural marxist political spectrum test

You guys know it was developed by the Frankfurt school right? Think for yourselves.

[Anonymous No.10088720]

>>10088682

[Anonymous No.10088736]

Took this a couple months ago, should still be accurate.

[Anonymous No.10088751]

>>10088679
>>10088602
>>10088522
>>10088436
Based

Everyone else should reevaluate their lives

[Anonymous No.10088752]

>>10088113
Starcraft™ is Warcraft™

[Anonymous No.10088764]

>>10088707
He's a Zionist

[Anonymous No.10088768]

>>10088751

mine >>10088736 is objectively better.

[Anonymous No.10088770]

>>10088768
and by that I guess I mean both my views, and the quiz. That other one is skewed towards the bottom left to the degree that Stalin himself would've gotten bottom left quadrant.

[Anonymous No.10088780]

>>10088707
i wasn't implying he was a jew? i was talking about chuck schumer but i remembered that bernie and a few other senators are also jews

[Anonymous No.10088784]

>>10088770
The one he linked is a bit different. It differentiates government size and progressiveness.

[Anonymous No.10088786]

>>10088768
>comminist
>even worth a responce

[Anonymous No.10088788]

>>10088707
anti trump memes can't be good because he's so fucking stupid that his actual actions are funnier than the memes, pic related
>>10088708
>believes in cultural memeism
>tells people to think for themselves
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.10088842]

>>10087028
I can't be bothered finding mine but I was roughly 5 up 3 right
>>10087558
I also scored just into Natcon on this one coming in from the left

>/lit /
>Actually reading

[Anonymous No.10088844]

>>10087854
revisionist socialism still is socialism, sperg
take this half-baked no true scotsman elsewhere

[Anonymous No.10088849]

>>10088788
>because he's so fucking stupid
Hahaha, two scoops right?

[Anonymous No.10088863]

>>10088849
i'm talking about him saying people who burn the flag should have their citizenship revoked despite previous court rulings saying that flag burning is protected by free speech
>https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/us/politics/trump-flag-burners-citizenship-first-amendment.html?mcubz=3
also him saying we should go back to the days where abortion was illegal and women just went to shady, unsanitary places to get abortions, and if they get caught they should be punished
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Jpoecf0xY
trump being the president and unironically believing china made up global warming to make US manufacturing noncompetitive, could you imagine if obama or something said that? Also yes, two scoops; he can't keep getting away with it

[Anonymous No.10088872]

>>10088863
oh and i forgot about him periodically kvetching about the NFL protests on twitter every day, i still don't get why people who value free speech think he somehow represents their interests

[Anonymous No.10088878]

>all these leftists

I remember being 15 too

[Anonymous No.10088881]

>>10088863
>>10088872
fuck i forgot about arguably the funniest ones, trump being an anti-vaxer and him calling for a revolution because obama lost the popular vote.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/507546486553706497
Not to mention his special plan to defeat isis in 30 days

[Anonymous No.10088894]

[Anonymous No.10088904]

If you aren't right you aren't right (as in right, wrong)

[Anonymous No.10088917]

[Anonymous No.10088961]

>>10087229
This is the chart only of a stock exchange ticker device. After a point the two axes must conflict unless you are a robot and only know robots.

[Anonymous No.10088984]

>>10088751
>wanting to suck government cock is somehow a positive attribute

[Anonymous No.10088992]

>>10088894
kek

[Anonymous No.10089003]

[Anonymous No.10089006]

>>10088917
Why haven't you taken the Social Monarchist redpill /lit/?

[Anonymous No.10089030]

>>10087142
>>10087172
>>10087467
/lit/ is the last bastion of rationality on 4chan

[Anonymous No.10089031]

>>10088881
Obama lost the popular vote?

[Anonymous No.10089041]

>>10089006
I understand all of this except limited franchise? Why desu?

[Anonymous No.10089047]

>>10089031
If you subtract the millions that voted illegally /s

[Anonymous No.10089056]

>>10089041
Women may elect between being employed or enfranchised, with the goal of reducing labor participation and consequently increase wages, while concurrently raising birth rates/the quality of childhood upbringing in society

[Anonymous No.10089059]

>>10087177
where?

[Anonymous No.10089063]

>>10089056
>with the goal of reducing labor participation and consequently increasing wages

tfw to inteligent to proofread

[Anonymous No.10089069]

>>10089056
>legally entrenching patriarchy

Good fucking luck making that happen

[Anonymous No.10089070]

>>10087028
These things couldn't be more autistic. They're made for people who vote in elections unironically.

[Anonymous No.10089072]

>>10088379
thats suprising seeing how much 'pseud reddit' stuff you clearly read

[Anonymous No.10089074]

>>10089069
SocMon manifesting in our lifetimes is as much of a fantasy as any sort of alternative economic system doing so. If I want to fantasize I can just as well go to town.

[Anonymous No.10089075]

>>10089074
>tfw you're right

[Anonymous No.10089080]

>>10087558
>Dem in the center and not near GOP
you're a burger ain't ya?

[Anonymous No.10089090]

>>10089031
yeah hillary won the popular vote in the 2008 primaries against obama but lost the EC
>tfw too intelligent to win the EC

[Anonymous No.10089238]

I'm top right, of course. Catholic Monarchism is the Patrician's ideology

[Anonymous No.10089272]

Part of me struggles with the idealism of anarchy and the impracticality of expecting everyone to adhere to the same regional/moral expectations (re: enforcement).

[Anonymous No.10089291]

[Anonymous No.10089328]

[Anonymous No.10089342]

>>10089328
kek

[Anonymous No.10089347]

>>10089056
>reducing labor participation and consequently increase wages
reasonable
>while concurrently raising birth rates
y tho
>the quality of childhood upbringing in society
the problem with upbringing today isn't parental absence so much as parental incapacity

an inept parent, to say nothing of a downright mentally ill one, arguably does more harm the longer they spend time with their children

[Anonymous No.10089356]

>>10087142
>>10087172
>>10087467
>>10087791
>>10087861
>>10087889

i would powerslam you niggers so hard

[Anonymous No.10089399]

>>10089328

[Anonymous No.10089464]

>>10087417
pretty much the same

[Anonymous No.10089523]

>>10087028
I wouldn't think that I'd be in the bottom left square. Honestly though, I'm kind of a brainlet and I had trouble answering a few of the questions just because I didn't really have any solid opinions related to them.

[Anonymous No.10089574]

>>10089347
>>while concurrently raising birth rates
>y tho

So the demographic situation does not to a head as it will do in Europe. The aim is to maintain a sustainable birth rate, not a positive one, so the ponzi scheme that is the social program system does not collapse upon itself, causing inappreciable misery

>an inept parent, to say nothing of a downright mentally ill one, arguably does more harm the longer they spend time with their children
In such a case they would optimally be steered into employment rather than franchise, two birds, one stone.

[Anonymous No.10089591]

>>10089574
come to a head*
stagnant* may also be the better word for the indicated fertility rate

[Anonymous No.10089610]

Joyce was a conservative

[Anonymous No.10089617]

>>10089030
/lit/ is the last board still brainwashed by culteral marxism

[Anonymous No.10089624]

>>10089272
>>10089523
>>10089030
Get off my board

[Anonymous No.10089685]

>>10089624
No.

[Anonymous No.10089686]

Almost true neutral.

[Anonymous No.10089701]

How did I do?

[Anonymous No.10089703]

>>10089685
At least wait until you are over 20. We hate leftists here

[Anonymous No.10089733]

What does this even mean? I know little about politics and next to nothing about economics. I always thought I was right-wing.

[Anonymous No.10089749]

I am right. You are Wrong (unless you are similar)

[Anonymous No.10089766]

>>10089733
You're probably quite pro freedom with a slight emphasis on socialism or you just aren't enthusiastic about capitalism. The test isn't perfect so unless you answer strongly on pro capitalism you'll rarely hit strong purple or blue.

[Anonymous No.10089787]

>>10089356
I assume this is some kind of anti-leftist comment, but did you even read my post (>>10087791). Also, if you're an American I'm probably whiter than you.

[Anonymous No.10089811]

>>10089703
>We hate leftists here
This isn't your safespace.

[Anonymous No.10089852]

[Anonymous No.10089878]

>>10089811
>leftists
>safe space
You're confusing left-wing with identity politics. The left is mostly dead anyway.

[Anonymous No.10089901]

Voice of reason coming through

[Anonymous No.10089921]

>>10089878
Wut? I was telling the other anon that this isn't his safe space and it's not true that "We hate leftists here"

[Anonymous No.10089926]

Reminder that no well-adjusted reasoning human being scores outside the left-authoritarian and right-libertarian squares

[Anonymous No.10089955]

i'm like ghandi

[Anonymous No.10089984]

[Anonymous No.10089985]

>>10089955
Honest question here. Are you 16 or under?

[Anonymous No.10089991]

>>10089985
i'm 33

[Anonymous No.10089996]

>>10089991
Ouch dude.. That is embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.10090003]

>>10089996
ok, kiddo

[Anonymous No.10090009]

>>10087028

[Anonymous No.10090013]

>>10089991
hahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.10090031]

>>10089991
Titus, get the cross?

[Anonymous No.10090058]

>>10090031
People were so based back then

[Anonymous No.10090060]

>>10089610
Nora's farts tell a different tale

[Anonymous No.10090067]

>>10090058

[Anonymous No.10090071]

Glad to see not everyone on /lit/ has thrown away all reason

[Anonymous No.10090072]

>all these """"leftist"""" irl

[Anonymous No.10090080]

>>10090058
You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.10090083]

>>10090071
>>10089984
>>10089901
>>10089852
>>10089749
>>10089701
>>10089610
>>10088904
>>10088878
>>10088751
>>10088679
>>10088602
no wonder /lit/ has turned to shit.
these people don't even read

[Anonymous No.10090084]

>>10090058
You've gotta go back.

[Anonymous No.10090100]

>>10090083
this your first week here sweetie?

[Anonymous No.10090102]

>>10090058
You had better go back.

[Anonymous No.10090106]

>>10090100
i remember /lit/'s halcyon days before the influx of /pol/ tourists

[Anonymous No.10090113]

>>10090058

[Anonymous No.10090116]

>>10090058
Maybe you should go back?

[Anonymous No.10090118]

>>10090106
I for one am glad the retards are leaving. 4chan should never be leftist, its an oxymoron

[Anonymous No.10090126]

>>10090058
It would be for the best if you went back.

[Anonymous No.10090128]

>>10089610
>joyce was a conservative

Wasn't he massively interested in Anarchist literature?

[Anonymous No.10090135]

>>10088695
Brah

[Anonymous No.10090138]

>>10090106
I've been here since 2009 and this board has always been /pol/ lite

[Anonymous No.10090139]

>>10090118
>I for one am glad the retards are leaving

but they were the ones that read books and had insightful discussion....they produced the OC.

[Anonymous No.10090140]

>>10090138
I've been here since day 1 and you're talking shite.

[Anonymous No.10090142]

>>10087036
Reminder that Stirner is a leftist

[Anonymous No.10090145]

I so desparately wanna be purple but it just doesn't budge :/

[Anonymous No.10090148]

>>10090142
>implying that wasn't Marx editing his work

[Anonymous No.10090157]

>>10090139
The left can't meme

[Anonymous No.10090184]

>>10088052
This, christian communism is the patrician ideology

[Anonymous No.10090185]

>>10090157
thats coz memes are dead, to meme is to put yourself on the same level as someone who participates in the reddit secret santa, a facebook mum, a youtube 'celebrity', a rick and morty fan, a member of the imgur community or a chick on instagram who people only pretend to find funny because she has big titties.

And if you're that and right-wing then according to leading anthropological research you're no longer classifiable as hominid, let alone human. And the only humane thing to do is kick you to death. the data doesn't lie.

[Anonymous No.10090188]

>>10090145
Gave it again after a few months. Why am I still a fucking commie?

[Anonymous No.10090193]

>>10090188
>commie
you're just a filthy liberal

[Anonymous No.10090194]

i thought this was a cultured board, what are the leftists doing here

t.cultural marxists

[Anonymous No.10090202]

Greetings from Europe, simple men of burgerland!

[Anonymous No.10090204]

>>10090072
and yet communism is still going to win, strange

[Anonymous No.10090206]

Thread theme :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

[Anonymous No.10090215]

>>10090100
>trumposting
>you are le new fag over 9000 for teh luzlz caturday do i fit in yet goys
leave

[Anonymous No.10090252]

>>10089574
I'm all for making global population stable, tho personally I'd like that number cranked way below the current 7.5b.

>the ponzi scheme that is the social program system does not collapse upon itself, causing inappreciable misery
I'm sorry man, but this is bogus. This "Ponzi scheme" talking point is popular among pundits and politicians who just plain want welfare to be defunded. Social security is one of the core components of the modern State, and there's no reason whatsoever the government can't simply finance it like it would any other deficitary program. The notion that social security must pay for itself makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.10090286]

>>10089574
>describing social programs as a ponzi scheme
how does one even make such comparision

[Anonymous No.10090290]

Glad to see there are some brothers left on /lit/

[Anonymous No.10090306]

>>10090252
>>10090286
I am not arguing against social programs, I understand their necessity, I was arguing that a stagnant fertility is requisite for maintaining them. That is the position of somebody in support.

To my knowledge a ponzi scheme consists of somebody paying his debts with sums that he has borrowed from others, which he will proceed to reimburse with another loan from a subsequent participant.

The "loan" in this sense is the value that is taxed from a worker and remitted to a pensioner. The taxed worker will be due a pension himself in most states after an age.

[Anonymous No.10090595]

>>10088863
>>10088881

Trump isn't stupid. He just has an utter disregard for consistency and ethics. To regard him as stupid is to underestimate him. It is the worst thing the left can do, and the left does it consistently. This is because the left cares more about ethics and consistency than strategy.

[Anonymous No.10090602]

>>10090185
You forgot the most important half of that image

[Anonymous No.10090632]

>>10090595
That's because the left adopted intellectualist values. They forgot the messiness and joy of fighting.
Those stupid western "anarchists" are the other side of the pole. They still have a need to fight but they act out without any aim. They have no sense of strategy either.

[Anonymous No.10090817]

>>10090595
>Trump isn't stupid
You're right, he's retarded

[Anonymous No.10090947]

>>10090290
please leave

[Anonymous No.10090953]

>>10090202
only about 20% of posters are American. Most people on /lit/ are South Americans

[Anonymous No.10091413]

>>10090817
His wall ploy: Will make his cronies money.
His hats: Made him money.
His Tax policy: Will make both himself and his cronies money.
Money: Guarantees your family's escape from Earth and social dominance during the coming dark age.
Trump: Not dumb.
Trump: Is building his family as an influential power structure as we enter into Feudal post-Capitalism.

[Anonymous No.10091428]

all these green square plebs

[Anonymous No.10091449]

>no monarchists
truly no one here reads books

[Anonymous No.10091533]

>>10087558
not economics, or sociology apparently

[Anonymous No.10091553]

>>10087028

[Anonymous No.10091640]

>>10091533
disciplines that only aim at management of social order instead of offering actual political program
and before you accuse me of ignorance I studied sociology at a university
but I agree that /lit/ is largely politically illiterate, although less than other boards

[Anonymous No.10091651]

>>10088660
>implying green is about pushing blame around