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Is there an objectively proper method of planning out a story?

What's the first thing that a writer should do?

What's the most important part?

How can you tell when a story just isn't going to make it through to the end?

>> No.10081799

No

Have an idea about something or someone to write about

Finishing it

When you give up

>> No.10081855

>>10081799
End of thread

>> No.10082477

>>10081799
I'm going to frame this post.

I'll return with proof.

>> No.10082500

>>10081788
Am I a retard? How could you ever get 1 from that?

>> No.10082508

>>10081788
Children need to learn from a young age to put parenthesis around everything so that no one has to worry about PEMDAS bullshit

>> No.10082517

>>10082500
If you think everything right of the "/" is the denominator

>> No.10082519

>>10082500
20/5(4)
=20/20
=1

>> No.10082522

>>10082508
this. I put three or four open parentheses next to division signs just so I don't accidentally close it short.

>> No.10082523

>>10082500
1 equals 16 you dumb-bo

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10083582

Trying to Math on /Lit/.

>> No.10083599

that's why you use fractions

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10083880

>>10081788
b8 image clearly shopped

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10083891

>OP commits the classic error of posting a thread with an image more interesting than the stated topic

>> No.10083896

>>10081788
4 x 4 = 16

how do you even get 1? 4 divided by 4?

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10083907

>>10083891
Better than nothing, I'd say.

>> No.10083915 [DELETED] 

>>10083896
Try visualizing it as a fraction:

20
-----------
5(2*2)

Anyway, you would solve it this way:

20 / 5 (2 * 2)
20 / 5 (4)
= 1

>> No.10083918

>>10083896
Try visualizing it as a fraction:

20
-----------
5(2*2)

Anyway, you would solve it in this order:

20 / 5 (2 * 2)
20 / 5 (4)
20 / 20
= 1

>> No.10083925

>>10083915
>what is order of operations?

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10084919

There is no objective way to plan a story. But there are lots of great works on this subject. You're a writer. Study what people have written about the art form.

I would especially recommend you read books about screenplay writing. Don't try to stick to some checklist shit. Just learn why some stories work and how they work.

Writing the Blockbuster Novel is good too.

>> No.10084932

>>10082517
This.
The real problem is using the slash for division, it does sort of cause some ambiguity...I guess. But they should just stick to teaching it the way the graphing calculators do it.

>> No.10084951

>>10081788
You need a main character with a goal and obstacles to achieving that goal. Everything else follows logically from that.

>> No.10084970

>>10083891
It's not so much an error as a way to get extra bumps.

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>>10083925
>>10084932

I'm too autistic to stop myself from this...

Yes, the problem is that the expression doesn't adhere to proper syntax. This stems out of common up to the point that this is introduced.

So you have this expression
> 2 * x - 3 = 13 - 3 * x
but instead you write it as its' shorthand version
> 2x -3 = 13 - 3x
So the multiplication is implicit. That's one part of how we end up with this shit.

The second part is they don't know about this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations#Programming_languages
People never do. So if you have
> 8 * 8 / 8
it doesn't matter if you do it as
> (8 * 8) / 8
or
> 8 * (8 / 8)
but in OPs case it does.

The third part is that noone knows that all these operations are binary. That means they take two operands. And (formally) you have to write parentheses around them all. So my first example
> 2x -3 = 13 - 3x
should, if properly written, be this
> (2 * x) - 3 = 13 - (3 * x)

But people neither know this nor care about it.

</autism>

>> No.10085024

>>10081788

Under "The Philosphy of Composition":
http://www.poedecoder.com/essays/raven/

>> No.10085032

>>10082500
>>10081788
20 / 5 (2*2)
BODMAS = 20 / 5 (4) = 20 / 5*4 = 20/20 = 1

20 /5 (2*2)
other way = 20 / 5 (2*2) = 20 / 5 x (2*2) = 4 x (2*2) = 4 x (4) = 4*4 = 16

I just use bodmas and state that is what I'm doing.

>> No.10085036

>>10081788
This type of order of operations bullshit problem is invented by teachers with no real world experience who are looking for busy work for their students.

Look at any scientific paper/college textbook and you will see there is never ambiguity in the formula. If you can't write your equations in an intelligible way I guess you go teach math to 8 year olds.

>> No.10085088

So is this a fraction or not? If it's a fraction then 1 is right but if it isn't then 16 is. Why is it written like this?
Am I just a brainlet?

>> No.10085089

>>10081799
legitimately fpbp

>> No.10085101

Its a shopped image

>> No.10085128

>>10085101
How stupid are you...