/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10080219]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.10080225]

brilliant

[Anonymous No.10080232]

>>10080225
So it is not just me then. Why is this kid so good?

[Anonymous No.10080251]

>>10080219
The first time I read that I thought it was kind of amusing and silly. But honestly, it has stuck with me. I think I unironically like this poem now.

[Anonymous No.10080257]

>>10080219
that YES really hits it out of the park
gotta love the purity and inhibition of the child mind

[Anonymous No.10080276]

[Anonymous No.10080294]

>>10080225
>>10080232
>>10080251
>>10080257
Is this proof that aesthetics is a meme?

[Anonymous No.10080298]

timeless

a tour de force

[Anonymous No.10080300]

Its pretty good. better than Rupi for sure

[Anonymous No.10080304]

>>10080219
Unironically fantastic, desu.

[Anonymous No.10080305]

>>10080219
Not bad. I enjoyed it before I even seen his age

[Anonymous No.10080307]

>>10080257
the YES is just so primal it can move your emotions

[Anonymous No.10080526]

This kid has serious potential

[Anonymous No.10080532]

Damn this is actually good. I unironically wish I wrote that

[Anonymous No.10080533]

>>10080307
It's an affirmation of the inner search for freedom. Then combined with the idealistic last line, in which the destruction of the cage allows the tiger to be free, the poem presents a scathing attack of modern reality, speaking to the dying hope that we've repressed in all of us, since we all know what should be is not what is and that's the deepest, most pervasive pain one can endure

[Anonymous No.10080537]

I'd ride it.

[Anonymous No.10080543]

>>10080219
>They're Singing A Song In Their Rocket
Dang, even the book title's good

[Anonymous No.10080544]

>>10080533

What if that is the wrong interpretation and the tiger is not free at all? How sure are we that the referent "He" in "He destroyed his cage" is not to be interpreted as "Nael destroyed the tiger's cage"? The person exclaiming yes is possibly six year old Nael. Like some sort of perverted pyromaniac who films himself burning down warehouses, Nael goes around opening cages of wild animals in the zoo unleashing bloodthirsty predators onto families, like Damian from the Omen movies.

[Anonymous No.10080549]

>>10080219
>Rupi Kaur will NEVER be as good as a 6-year-old kid

[Anonymous No.10080554]

>>10080544

He just told you that the tiger is free. How dare you mistrust the creator?

[Anonymous No.10080555]

>>10080544
I always assumed nael was a female name for a child, but that could be a more interesting interpretation.
Perhaps the animals are not set free, and instead are burned alive. So, when an animal is "out", they have merely been forcibly removed from the mortal coil, and this is the true freedom Nael recognises. Being 6 years old yet having cursed all 6 of those years, she rejoices as tamed animals roar and writhe in agony, having been given the greatest gift of all: death

[Anonymous No.10080556]

>>10080294

YES

[Anonymous No.10080557]

>>10080307
>>10080533
>>10080544
>>10080554
the tiger
is out

[Anonymous No.10080559]

I don't believe a kid wrote this. His parents had to have helped with this

[Anonymous No.10080563]

Be honest here, would you guys still praise it if she wrote it?

[Anonymous No.10080565]

The poem works very well in its own right, but I'd also recommend reading it alongside Blake's The Tyger (obviously) and Aravind Adiga's novel The White Tiger.

[Anonymous No.10080568]

Not that good.

[Anonymous No.10080569]

>>10080565
I believe Roger Waters' "When The Tigers Broke Free" could be interesting supplementary material too.

[Anonymous No.10080571]

>>10080563
A rupi kaur poem wouldn't go like that, it would be like >>10080557

The man
He destroyed
My heart.
but
BUT
I am a strong
Woman.

[Anonymous No.10080572]

>>10080559
It's a pretty childish poem desu, not that there's anything wrong with that. Kids have different mindsets and its refreshing to explore with them after debilitating years of adulthood.

[Anonymous No.10080576]

>>10080568
No need to be so bitter, Rupi

>>10080554
See
>>10080555

[Anonymous No.10080580]

>>10080576
I don't like when people don't use punctuation marks.

[Anonymous No.10080588]

>>10080580
Punctuation slows and separates. Nael's poem is a white knuckle roller-coaster that builds to a destructive crescendo. Asking for punctuation in it is like asking for lube when you're getting gangraped

[Anonymous No.10080594]

I should start sharing my childhood poetry here desu

[Anonymous No.10080600]

>>10080563
tippity top kek

[Anonymous No.10080603]

>>10080219
powerful

[Anonymous No.10080604]

>>10080565
Actually The Tiger does form a fascinating companion to The Tyger, especially if you consider historical context.

In Blake's period, the tiger represented the wild in a very literal way- I'm sure plenty of people were still bring killed by tigers and other wild animals in Asia. But there are hints in the poem of the coming industrial order- 'furnace', 'hammer', and most tellingly 'chain' - that would domesticate the 'forest of the night' and put the tiger safely in its cage.

In our thoroughly industrialised age, Nael age 6 returns to the subject of the tiger- and gives us a powerful affirmation of Blake's original message and a riposte to the hubris of modernity. Nature can never be wholly controlled- the tiger is out.

[Anonymous No.10080615]

>>10080604
...there's also a metatextual element here. Although Blake celebrated the untrammelled imagination, he actually wrote in scrupulously regular, rhyming lines- obviously, since in his age this is what poetry was.

Nael age 6, on the other hand, draws on the legacy of modernism and concrete poetry, giving the poem a liberated form which truly matches its theme. Arguably the 'tiger' of Nael's poem stands for poetry, or the imagination itself, set free from its cage. There is a deeply ambiguous attitude towar modernity here, which is only fitting given modernity's deeply ambiguous nature.

[Anonymous No.10080617]

Unfiltered, pure Ecstasy. Art without constraints, a story told in few words, but with much power

Excellent stuff

[Anonymous No.10080623]

[Anonymous No.10080627]

>>10080623

[Anonymous No.10080631]

>>10080604
...mentioning Asia also makes me realise that you can read The Tiger as a postcolonial work too, with the animal standing for the colonies that destroyed their imperial cages.

Damn, this poem is rich af tbphwy

[Anonymous No.10080635]

>>10080604
We are the tiger.

[Anonymous No.10080639]

>>10080615
If the tiger stands for poetry, than the realisation that the tiger is out would actually be the realisation that poetry as an artform is losing its relevance, playing on the meaning of the word "out". Or, it could mean
If it is imagination, it could be a reference to imaginative theology that explores and explains all the depths of the human experience being replaced by modernity, implying a loss of relevance with the same multifaceted wordplay. The physical cage of imagination is required for imagination to exist, if imagination leaves the brain then humanity has abandoned it.

[Anonymous No.10080653]

>>10080639
Good point. This is one of the things I love about the poem- whatever reading you give it, there's always an ambiguity there, despite the doubled, capitalised 'yes'. Sure, it's free and that's great- but it's also a fucking tiger. The idea of freedom meaning loss gives it still more levels of meaning.

[Anonymous No.10080658]

>>10080639
>Or it could mean
I did have a thought here but I lost it

The thought is out

[Anonymous No.10080674]

>>10080658
yes
YES
The thought is free.

[Anonymous No.10080695]

>>10080219
Bravo Nael, you're on your way to being the next Rupi Kaur.

[Anonymous No.10080701]

>>10080571
The tampon
It broke.
The blood.
Flowed.
YES!
yes.

[Anonymous No.10080702]

>>10080701
My natural womanly essence is out

[Anonymous No.10080718]

>>10080623
>>10080627
Very nice. Did you make that? The ‘the’ on the first page should be on the top left though. Otherwise it might be read as ‘tiger the’.

[Anonymous No.10080721]

>>10080219
Unironically great

[Anonymous No.10080729]

What people that compare it to Rupi don't get is that "The Tiger" makes no reference to the author or his condition in the slightest. It's free, the poem stands on its own two feet, disconnected from petty personal problems and experiences, yet it communicates an immense, abundant amount of joy and vigor.

[Anonymous No.10080747]

The cage was the tigers. And the tiger himself destroyed the cage referred to as his.
This is just beautiful.

[Anonymous No.10080753]

>>10080729
The tiger could very much be Nael, imagining himself breaking free from the confine of society he readily recognises, even at 6.
Or if Nael is male, the cage destroyer could be him while the tiger exists as a separate concept

[Anonymous No.10080757]

>>10080753
>The tiger could very much be Nael, imagining himself breaking free from the confine of society he readily recognises, even at 6.
Even so, Nael has hidden their emotions under a well-crafted metaphor, unlike Rupi, who just writes that she's sad and puts random line breaks in.

[Anonymous No.10080759]

could we please stop comparing this to kaur? you guys dont even like her art why do you constantly bring her up

[Anonymous No.10080767]

>>10080219
His parents had to have helped him

[Anonymous No.10080769]

>>10080759
Most people in this thread aren't trying to diminish Nael's achievements by comparing them to Kaur. Quite the opposite, they try to diminish Kaur's achievements by comparing her to a 6-year-old child. I agree though, that it is insulting to the child, since The Tiger blows all of Kaur's body of work out of the water. I guess that her meme status causes discussion of her work appear in every single poetry thread, just like Baneposting happens in every single thread on /tv/.

[Anonymous No.10080770]

This kid has talent

[Anonymous No.10080774]

>>10080219
I always think about this masterpiece when I see this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hujmlsg8k_Q
>dat primal creative energy
>LOOK AT ME
>I AM TEETH, I AM FUR

[Anonymous No.10080789]

Honestly I was expecting it to suck but it actually makes you think. One can almost relate to the tiger

[Anonymous No.10080792]

>>10080219
where do I GET THE BOOK?

[Anonymous No.10080799]

There is no escaping the cage. What strikes the Tiger as "out" is just another cage that he is yet to learn to hate. The ecstasy, the cries of "Yes", remain the only real moment of the poem, albeit a tragic, hopeless one

[Anonymous No.10080803]

Caught me off guard, this is actually good. Poetry isn't dead after all

>>10080792
seconding this

[Anonymous No.10080805]

>>10080729
Actually I think the tiger might represent the writer in some way

[Anonymous No.10080810]

>>10080219
He uses the same tricks as Joyce with the "yes, yes" the sneaky devil

[Anonymous No.10080812]

>>10080219
Nael future Nobel Prize.

[Anonymous No.10080818]

I just have one question. is the "yes" supposed to be what the tiger is thinking or the narrator?

[Anonymous No.10080832]

>>10080774
damn that was really god

[Anonymous No.10080833]

but who was tiger?

[Anonymous No.10081134]

>>10080219
I unironically like it

[Anonymous No.10081187]

I have the belief that this poem – this masterpiece – exists simply because ourselves in our older age and our superficial world are unable to reach such a level of pure, sincere emotion. As Fernando Pessoa pointed out, a child says "I feel like tears," an adult ('i.e. an idiot') says "I feel like crying."
This child, Nael, this legend, is the breath of an ocean air.

[Anonymous No.10081272]

>>10080219
This kid has a command of language.

[Anonymous No.10081284]

Reminder that you're not a real Naelite unless you've read the poem in its original typeset

[Anonymous No.10081299]

>>10081284
What is the centred ‘YES’ meant to convey?

[Anonymous No.10081461]

>>10081284
The flush left typeset is superior though.

[Anonymous No.10081465]

>>10081299
The tiger escaping his cage. He destroys it from within and then escapes.

[cage destroyed]Yes
-------------------------------[Escapes cage]YES

[Anonymous No.10081473]

>>10081299
The tiger escaping his cage. He destroys it from within and then escapes.
[Yes]
[___]YES

[Anonymous No.10081480]

>>10081473
...damn...

[Anonymous No.10081481]

All this erudite exegesis is nice and all, but is the real question to be left unanswered forever?
>>10080792
>>10080803
Does anybody have a title, at least? It looks like a children's poetry anthology. The type and the paper give it a 70s/80s look.
>>10081284
Wait, is that...another book?

[Anonymous No.10081490]

>>10081480
You can see the tiger moving across the page, running towards freedom...

[Anonymous No.10081492]

Its a god poem, but I hate it. It shows me just how useless and untalented I am

[Anonymous No.10081500]

>>10080623
>>10080627
>not Evola as the 'tiger'

[Anonymous No.10081524]

>>10081461
truth

[Anonymous No.10081530]

The question is; who is singing a song in the rocket? Could it be a reference to Gottfried, the poor boy trapped inside Blicero's 00000 rocket in Gravity's Rainbow?

[Anonymous No.10081533]

>>10081481
It's been published twice; once in You Will Be Able to Say a Thousand Words and then again in the Singing a Song in Their Rocket. Or the other way around.

[Anonymous No.10081634]

A tiger can't destroy its cage unless it's made of like bamboo or something so I'm gonna call bullshit even though it is made by a six year old.

[Anonymous No.10081636]

>>10081634
It's a metaphor, dumbass

[Anonymous No.10081655]

>>10081636
For what?

[Anonymous No.10081656]

>>10081655
The bounds of society

[Anonymous No.10081662]

>>10081634
>t. never owned a cat

[Anonymous No.10081669]

>>10081636
I prefer to imagine that it's some sort of super-tiger. A genetically-engineered tiger with bionic implants hopped up on experimental drugs.

[Anonymous No.10081759]

Its possible that the tiger in the poem refers not to the animal, but perhaps a person. Tiger is a fairly common nickname. Perhaps young Nael is perhaps referring to Tiger Ali Singh, a WWE wrestler. Its not inconceivable that as part of a staged performances Tiger Singh escaped from some sort of cage before engaging in a brawl. Nael perhaps watched this on television and was inspired by this raw performance.

Either way the ambiguity as to what exactly the tiger is still stands. This ambiguity is why this poem speaks so deeply to us.

[Anonymous No.10081792]

>>10080219
>yes
>YAAAAAAAAAAS

would be better

[Anonymous No.10081800]

>>10080533
I would dare to step one foot further and juxtapose the stripes tiger invariably (regardless where it's on the gender spectrum) has with the bars cages (regardless ...) have. Stripes are far more vibrant and can be viewed as pre-colonial africa while bars represent predominantly white society that fails to twirl the way big cats do in the Cradle of Civilization. Similarly, the usage of caps lock (!) represents the dissolvement in similarity whereupon only glistening jaws of righteous discourse remain.

[Anonymous No.10081808]

>>10081800
Tigers are from Asia

[Anonymous No.10081812]

>>10081284
fuck that is good

[chop No.10081824]

>>10081800
>>10081808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rObSWkQA7og

[Anonymous No.10081879]

>>10081800

Cradle of Civilization is Mesopotamia.

>when you attend one to many social studies lecture and your brain starts forgetting the bare basics

[Anonymous No.10081892]

>>10080219
Holy shit why is it so good and catchy?

[Anonymous No.10081969]

I'm impressed

[Anonymous No.10081971]

>>10081634
Who the fuck cares

[Anonymous No.10081974]

>>10080623
>>10080627
I wonder how Nael will feel when he's a grown man and he discovers the fandom that's sprung up around his 6-year-old self's poetry. This is all very charming to me.

[Anonymous No.10081983]

>>10080294
The memes
They destroyed Academy
Yes
YES
The memes are out

[TURBAUTISMO No.10082251]

YES

[Anonymous No.10082266]

Its good, real good

[Anonymous No.10082298]

>>10080219
Nael, Imagiste

[Anonymous No.10082346]

>>10080219
The roof
The roof
The roof is on fire
We don't need no water
Let that mother burn

[Anonymous No.10082622]

>>10080219
How do you pronounce the name Nael? Is it like "nail"?

[Anonymous No.10082637]

>>10080219

Well, I first thought it was a typical 21st century poem written by an adult, in the context of his age, good for him. Literally better than "We Real Cool".

[Anonymous No.10082703]

>>10081892
It's not constrained by ideas of what poetry should be like, so it's an authentic expression

[Anonymous No.10082706]

>>10082622
yeah

[Anonymous No.10082806]

pretending this poem is good is my favorite /lit/ meme

[Anonymous No.10082810]

>>10080257
YES

[Anonymous No.10082816]

>>10082806
But it is a good poem, your soul must be very small.

[Anonymous No.10082826]

>>10081473
>>10081480
>>10081490
And the capitalization emphasizes the tiger's increased vigor upon escape.

[Anonymous No.10082835]

>>10082816
You can tell its a joke because all the comments are positive, you don't even get this with Joyce. Its like that cringey band /mu/ posts that people pretend is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0B7Z3JERdk

[Anonymous No.10082839]

>>10081983
Not

>Ree
>REE
>The memes are free

[Anonymous No.10082848]

>>10082835
hey, this is actually pretty good, not cringe at all

[Anonymous No.10082849]

it's funny until you realize that Nael is a spirit-channeling oracle which is trying to tell us that WWIII has already begun

[Anonymous No.10082856]

>>10082835
Hey this is pretty good, not cringe at all

[Anonymous No.10082877]

>>10082849
>>10082835
>>10082806
OP here, I was not joking and I don't think it's funny, I think Nael's poem is legitimately beautiful and moving

[Anonymous No.10082942]

>>10080631

Nael is no typical cucked 6 year old, he freed the tiger in order to Ride the Tiger

[Anonymous No.10082946]

>>10082877
>I was not joking

Neither was I. Prepare for war.

[Anonymous No.10082947]

>>10082942
kek

[Anonymous No.10082975]

>>10082835
you motherfucker time machine modulus may be a meme with shit actual recordings when they try and be good but this live performance is dope as fuck you maroon baboon not cringe at all

[Anonymous No.10083437]

>>10081473
It's so...beautiful. My God.

[Anonymous No.10083522]

thread is GOAT.

[Anonymous No.10083636]

>>10081656
>tiger is a metaphor for the bounds of society
This is too abstract and dry, you're forgetting how children think

The poem is entirely literal. Young boys idolize and often imagine themselves as being dangerous beasts of prey. The tiger is just a tiger, but in imagining him free, the poem is evocative of a childish desire for chaos and a destructive élan

[Anonymous No.10083646]

>>10081656
This is too abstract and dry, you're forgetting how children think

The poem is entirely literal. Young boys idolize and often imagine themselves as being dangerous beasts of prey. The tiger is just a tiger, but in imagining him free, the poem is evocative of a childish desire for chaos and a destructive élan

[Anonymous No.10083662]

Has anyone managed to snag a copy?

[Anonymous No.10083737]

>>10080580
whatever will we do without those extra periods commas and exclamation points to dictate the inflections of this young lord

[Anonymous No.10083746]

>>10082806
The Redditor is butthurt.
Yes.
YES.

[Anonymous No.10083753]

>>10083646
Given the range of influences and allusions present in the poem, dismissing Nael as a mere child seems rather foolish

[Anonymous No.10083756]

This thread is the proof that you guys have very little knowledge of literature.

What else to expect from people who have spent their lives digesting nothing but the NORTH-AMERICAN CANON, i.e., nothing of value?

America, in terms of literature, is very poor. Learn la dolce lingua toscana and start reading trecento writers if you want to know what literature actually is.

Jesus Christ! You are worse than the French.

Oh, my God, why on Earth did the Jews choose America to inhabit? Why couldn't they come to Brazil or go to Argentina instead? Thanks to their monetary influence, the whole world is now forced to read Mark Twain and Ernest Hemingway. This is their great sin.

[Anonymous No.10083761]

>>10080627
focken dope m8

[Anonymous No.10083771]

>>10083756
reddit spacing

[Anonymous No.10083815]

>>10083771
Good to know. I do not post there, however.

[Anonymous No.10083826]

>>10083756
>le epic leddit spacind Xd

[Anonymous No.10083861]

>>10083753

[Anonymous No.10084251]

>>10083662
Could Nael be black?

[Anonymous No.10084280]

>>10080565
As well as, of course, Julius Evola's "Ride The Tiger"

[Anonymous No.10084291]

>>10080219
>He destroyed his cage

I think 'he' is Father Samuel who brought about six year Old Nael's sexual liberation.

[Anonymous No.10084304]

>>10084251
I dont think so. More likely he swallowed the redpill much sooner due to going to an largely black school.

[Anonymous No.10084309]

>>10084251

Think of all the added significance here.Nael could be the next Ralph Ellison

[Anonymous No.10084310]

Maybe we should write Nael a letter. We should tell him how much we liked his poem.

[Anonymous No.10084313]

>>10080219
The big buy
He took off his mask
Yes
YES
For you

[Anonymous No.10084520]

>>10083646
>authorial intent

["Anonymous" No.10084525]

>>10080604
See that? Uh, that's... chaos.

[Anonymous No.10084532]

Its shit. I enjoy Rupi Kaur and Mira Gonzalez but not this.

[Anonymous No.10084541]

>>10081669
Just like the American populace due to the postmodern deep state cultural Marxist neo-Marxist zionists

>>10081634
>>10083646
t. Pleb

[Anonymous No.10084547]

>>10082806
>pretending

[Anonymous No.10084555]

>>10084251
I think so, the tiger could be the primal hunter gatherer inside him refined by millennia being preyed on by and preying on some of the most aggressive fauna on the planet , and the cage it is placed in being its taming by the bounds of modern society

>>10083756
SOPA

["Anonymous" No.10084566]

>>10083756
Argentina is fucking filled with Jews, what are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.10084958]

>>10081634
>he doesn't understand a metaphor crafted by 6 year old
wew lad

[Anonymous No.10084960]

>>10084313
kek

[Anonymous No.10084968]

>>10083753

[Anonymous No.10084977]

>>10080219
>tfw when he influences the next gen of poetry
>tfw he is slammed by the next gen of /lit/ for influencing the next gen of poetry

[Anonymous No.10084988]

>>10080219
The first thread we have had of actual lit critique and analysis for a while is over a child's poem. I like it.

>>10081974
Aaaand theres my next short story.

[Anonymous No.10084991]

>>10084977
>tfw when

[Anonymous No.10084992]

>>10080526
And like all kids I know, eventually he will grow out of it.

[Anonymous No.10085008]

>>10080565
"Tyger tyger burning bright
In the forest of the night
What immortal hand or eye
Can frame thy fearful sym-uh-try"

"Try". It's fucking "TRY", you DUMB KEKS. I fucking hate it so fucking much when normies pronounce it fucking "symmetry" because they're so afraid of pronouncing a word a certain way and it ruins the whole rhyme of the poem just because they don't want to be bold or because they don't want to look like a fool in front of a crowd. FUCK YOU. Pronounce is "Sym-Eh-TRY" like it was meant to be pronounced, you dumb fucking KEKS. How fucking beta can you be that you can't even pronounce a word a certain, deliberately mispronounced way?