Is anybody else on these niggas' level? Asking for a friend.

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Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:43:46 2017 No.10076402 [Reply] [Original]

Is anybody else on these niggas' level? Asking for a friend.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:47:09 2017 No.10076409 I bet you don't even speak German and French. Milton though

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:48:29 2017 No.10076412 >>10076402 Sadly not once youve taken the Mann pill there is no going back

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:48:33 2017 No.10076413 >>10076409 I speak 5 different languages, but yeah no french and german

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:48:54 2017 No.10076416 >>10076402 Why is Proust in that pic? He doesn't belong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:50:14 2017 No.10076418 >>10076416 He easily is the most talented in the pic Kys

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:53:15 2017 No.10076422 >>10076416 If anything it's Joyce who is unlike the other two.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:54:11 2017 No.10076426 >>10076418 Nope. Proust isn't a good writer, overrated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:54:31 2017 No.10076429 File: 28 KB, 420x459, woolf_virginia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] blocks your path

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:55:35 2017 No.10076430 >>10076426 t. Pleb

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 06:57:19 2017 No.10076433 >>10076430 You're the one defending a pleb writer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:04:33 2017 No.10076445 >>10076426 Sprachen vous francaise?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:07:31 2017 No.10076450 >>10076445 Oui, mais il est juif.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:12:17 2017 No.10076455 >>10076413 >I speak 5 different languages, but yeah no french and german lol take about fucked up luck

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:12:39 2017 No.10076458 >>10076450 Juif ist superior to any other nation

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:14:56 2017 No.10076464 >>10076458 Gas yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:24:08 2017 No.10076474 >>10076464 Non

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:26:34 2017 No.10076478

>>10076426
wow woooooow bro you are right!
How didn't people realize Proust is a shit writer before? Your are a fucking genius man, my god, all those decades of hype wasted, all his influence and gigantic work? All fucking shit, you really shed a light in the literature world

bro, bro come on, kill yourself tonight!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:27:34 2017 No.10076482 >>10076478 >How didn't people realize Proust is a shit writer before? They did, that's why his books were burned in Nazi Germany

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:29:44 2017 No.10076487 >>10076482 He was jewish

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:46:52 2017 No.10076517 >>10076402 >>10076412 German here: Why? He isn't even peak German.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:53:53 2017 No.10076534 >>10076517 Name one better writer other than maybe Geothe

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 07:56:51 2017 No.10076544 >>10076534 Goethe was specifically who I had in mind so you excluding it doesn't count. Also I love Mann I just never considered him to be as far up there as you say. What are your favourites?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:00:02 2017 No.10076552 >>10076517 Reading "Zauberberg" right now and the amount of beautifully written passages and mind-fucking dialogues and monologues is amazing. My favourite book so far (together with V.)

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:03:05 2017 No.10076565 >>10076544 Goethe doesn't fit with the other modernists. I would say Kafka is the greatest German (language) writer of the 20th century, but Mann is more similar to Joyce and Proust.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:04:33 2017 No.10076570 >>10076565 Yeah I love Kafka but he's not particularly technically impressive which this category is about

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:09:15 2017 No.10076586 >>10076402 Perec is better than Proust.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:11:12 2017 No.10076589

>>10076565
>I would say Kafka is the greatest German (language) writer of the 20th century
You should be ashamed of yourself, kraut. Honestly, despicable giving a mediocre jewish writer such esteem. Though I know you're only saying that because you come from a conformist culture that has dictated that very answer to you (literally, there was a story on here about exactly this last week).

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:12:40 2017 No.10076593 >>10076589 Kafka may have been born Jewish but he had a Christian soul. Its where a lot of his problems stemmed from

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:15:32 2017 No.10076598 >>10076589 I'm not German, but nice try, *nglo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:16:34 2017 No.10076600 >>10076589 Please, let's not have a rerun of that embarrassing "people only like Kafka because they're brainwashed" episode...please...

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:22:15 2017 No.10076608 >>10076589 This is why everyone loves /pol/crossposters

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:23:08 2017 No.10076612 >>10076402 Hermann Broch maybe Robert Musil maybe Alfred Döblin

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 08:37:55 2017 No.10076650 >>10076598 >>10076600 >>10076608 These are jews or lost goyim whose wires get crossed when someone disrupts their judaic cultural conditioning to say, and accurately and sensibly so, that Kafka was a shit writer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 09:54:25 2017 No.10076829 >>10076650 Post a pic of your room

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 09:56:57 2017 No.10076833

>>10076650
This is a combination of (You)-seeking 8/8 b8 shitpost and /pol/tard autism. Why don't you "accurately and sensibly" explain why Kafka was a shit writer other than just putting multiple parentheses around his name.
>inb4 teen angst (as was brought up last time we had this thread)
If you read something like "In the Penal Colony" and think it touches on something no more profound than adolescent feelz, then you just might be in over your head.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 09:59:42 2017 No.10076841 reading mann's stories at the moment houellebecq said mann and proust were the last real europeans. what did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 10:05:38 2017 No.10076855 >>10076841 Probably that they had a belief in the European project and identity before the entire continent became ironic LARPers on the backs of American-Judaic culture

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 10:07:34 2017 No.10076861 >>10076650 lol

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 13:36:54 2017 No.10077464

>>10076833
So you want a definition of "shit"? I'd rather you learn through internal shame that you have juvenile tastes and aren't yet mature enough to appreciate good writing, and then ultimately better yourself. You are 19 and retarded, I don't even hold it against you that you like what you're told to like and have a stunted sense of quality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 14:05:46 2017 No.10077574 >>10076455 Whenever someone claims to speak "5 different languages" they usually include Spanish, Italian, Portuguese or other shit-tier languages that are basically the same

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 14:40:49 2017 No.10077696 >>10077464 Wow, what do you know, no argument whatsoever. Yes, you certainly sound like a bastion of maturity. Really now, you won't even go into a wee bit of detail about what makes Kafka so shit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 14:44:21 2017 No.10077711 >>10076422 Meme writter/classical visionary/god of writting and human understandings fucks joyce doing there? Why isn't he sucking the farts of his wife?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 14:45:55 2017 No.10077714 >>10077711 >classical visionary What did u mean by this

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 14:46:05 2017 No.10077717
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>>10076402
ok. ok. wow. just. ok. here are the true rankings, and I would go as far as saying that the rest of fiction as a whole is a waste of time, and you're better off reading poetry or watching TV instead of reading authors who are not in this list

SUPREME MASTER GOD TIER: THE MASTER OF ALL IN THE KINGDOM OF GREAT WRITERS IN HUMAN HISTORY, AT THE TOP OF THE HIGHEST TOWER, MASTURBATING 10-15 TIMES PER DAY, AS THE HAND WITH WHICH HE WRITES ARTISTIC MASTERPIECES IS MORE SEXUALLY APPEALING THAN ANY ADONIS THE GODS CAN CONJURE
>Proust

VICE-SUPREME MASTER GOD TIER: THE ONLY WRITER DESERVING TO BE IN SAME ROOM AS THE SUPREME MASTER GOD
>Joyce

GOD TIER: OCCUPYING THE MARBLE CASTLE WITH THE SUPREME AND VICE SUPREME MASTER GOD
>Tolstoy
>Homer
>Dante
>Dostoevsky
>Shakespeare

ANGELIC DEMON TIER: PATROLLING THE CASTLE WALLS OF THE GOD TIERS AND ABOVE, AND DOING THEIR BIDDING ACROSS THE UNIVERSE, CAPTURING AND PILLAGING ENTIRE PLANETS TO TO INTO PLANET-SIZED "THE MATRIX"-TYPE BODY HARVESTING FARMS, BUT THEY HARVEST HUMAN FARTS INSTEAD OF ELECTRICITY, PACKED IN DIAMOND JARS, FOR THE FART-LOVING PROUST AND JOYCE TO HOLD UP TO THEIR NOSES AND SHIFT THEIR NOSES LEFT AND RIGHT ALONG THE RIM OF THE JAR LIKE SNIFFING A FINE WINE, THEN TAKING A HUMONGOUS INHALE AND ACHIEVING UNFATHOMABLE ORGASM, "AH, A 2017 RUSSIAN LUMBERJACK FART, GOOD YEAR" THEY SAY, NODDING THEIR HEADS AT THE ANGELIC DEMONS WHO DO THEIR BIDDING, THE ANGELIC DEMONS' HEARTS FILLED WITH JOY AT THE HONOR OF SERVING THEIR MASTERS
>Goethe
>Kafka
>Chekhov
>Morrissey
>Nabakov
>Melville
>Chaucer
>Cervantes
>Ambrose motherfucking Bierce!

HONORABLE DRAGON WORK CREATURE TIER: THESE WRITERS' SOULS HAVE POSSESSED THE BODIES OF DRAGONS WITH LIME GREEN FUR AND FLORESCENT TIGER STRIPES WHO BREATHE GAMMA RAY BURSTS AND CIRCLE THE SUPREME MASTER GOD'S KINGDOM BY THE MILLIONS, AND OPERATE AS A HIVE MIND, AND HAVE BEEN GENETICALLY MODIFIED WITH TARDIGRADE DNA TO SURVIVE IN SPACE AND EVEN BLACK HOLES, TO HONOR WORKS THAT I ENJOYED PERSONALLY BUT THAT MAY NOT BE AS JUSTIFIED ON AN ARTISTIC LEVEL BY CONSENSUS
>Hesse
>Pynchon
>Hemingway
>Foster Wallace
>Woolf
>Flaubert
>George Eliot
>Balzac
>Borges

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 14:52:03 2017 No.10077738 >>10077714 That i really really like the magic mountain

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:08:33 2017 No.10077797 >>10077717 Based post

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:20:39 2017 No.10077837

>>10077696
What do you want me to say, guy? His style is below average for European standards. Kafka just wasn't in any way a gifted writer, but jews aren't good writers so this fact is hardly surprising. The actual substance is also subversive and designed to increase feelings of alienation among young people who read his work, hence why I said those like yourself who are inclined to jump to his defense have juvenile tastes, yet to emerge your teenage 'me against the world' cocoon. But as I also said, I don't blame you for this. I'm trying to help you here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:29:06 2017 No.10077858 >>10077717 Thank you for this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:32:34 2017 No.10077872 >>10077717 >Putting Foster Wallace in the same level as Borges or Hesse because of a meme book. Infinite Jest is great but please stop the delusion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:34:19 2017 No.10077880 >>10076552 It's insulting to Mann to put V. anywhere near the galaxy of any of his works.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:37:46 2017 No.10077897 Y'all, Mann is great but he is one of those guys whose seemingly unparalleled cuckery automatically demotes him several pegs. He was a pathetic man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:42:04 2017 No.10077914 >>10076402 Céline was better than Proust.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:55:54 2017 No.10077977

>>10077914
A lot of people were. Proust isn't actually a good writer qua writer. His status has been inflated and /lit/ is full of kids who crowd the bandwagon since they are incapable of discerning merit beyond overreach that signals they are knowledgeable about that which they they've been told will bring them status for pretending to be knowledgeable about.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 15:56:52 2017 No.10077979 >>10077914 And Beckett was better than Joyce

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:00:54 2017 No.10078002 I hate Anglos.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:06:03 2017 No.10078023 >>10077977 Lmao what the fuck are you even trying to say atleast offer a critique of proust in a paragraph dedicated to discrediting him

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:07:20 2017 No.10078033 >>10078002 Funny thing to say while frequenting an English language forum Pedro

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:08:07 2017 No.10078038 File: 467 KB, 1800x2400, gaddisCSstroke.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >no mention of the Billy G Tha God

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:10:13 2017 No.10078050 >>10078023 If you expect serious responses from others, please use proper punctuation in your posts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:10:30 2017 No.10078053 Musil > Mann > Broch Arguably Witkiewicz.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:11:37 2017 No.10078060 >>10077977 Please stop anglo, Proust is an amazing prose writer.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:12:28 2017 No.10078064

>>10077977
This is completely wrong. It's utterly disgusting that you would unironically think this. Firstly Proust's actual writing style is flawless. Secondly the content of his writing is life changing and makes one appreciate the real world better. You've ventured out there - the real world - once or twice I assume? Try to remember what that was like. Well, Proust makes that even better.

Please kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:13:54 2017 No.10078070 >>10078060 No, he was not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:16:28 2017 No.10078083 >>10077897 how?

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:18:30 2017 No.10078087

>>10077837
Alright, I'll take your word for it that you're "trying to help." I'm still not convinced, and I think you assume too much about me; I know I am no bitter Holden Caulfield type. But if you are willing, create an Anti-Kafka list, both literary and philosophical, and maybe that will be a strong argument.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:18:48 2017 No.10078089 >>10078070 I hope someone jams a fire hose up your ass then turns it on

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:21:51 2017 No.10078099

>>10078064
I have many times the life experience you do and am better-read as well. I'm not surprised people like yourself feel adamant that you know what you're talking about, especially if you've devoted a large proportion of what little time you've been in existence to reading ISOLT, but you don't. You are a fair-weather reader who is defending a bad writer because you've been told he's a good writer and because you are incapable of making such distinctions yourself. I understand.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:26:57 2017 No.10078123 >>10078089 The remarkable comedic wit of the Proust reader.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:30:00 2017 No.10078136 >>10077717 swap tolstoy with proust and proust with joyce and we'll be friends

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:31:41 2017 No.10078148 >>10078087 >I know I am no bitter Holden Caulfield type Making, or merely picking up on, such a distinction likely means you're on the right path.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:36:54 2017 No.10078174

>>10078099
You are one of the most pretentious faggots in all of 4chan. I've read over 400 classical fiction and philosophy books and only a few writers come close to Proust. I assume you simply did not read Proust, or you could not properly appreciate it because your goldfish attention span was offended by the long sentences, and gave up 30 pages into Swann's Way. His brilliance is very obvious in his prose and insight into the mind on every single page. Did you actually read ISOLT?

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:46:51 2017 No.10078227

>>10078174
Sounds like you got me beat in the pretension department (and I'd reckon the mendacity department as well). Perhaps you should try to have an honest discussion with yourself about your mediocre taste in literature. Not sure what you expect me to say.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 16:52:02 2017 No.10078245 >>10078227 And the pretension continues. You're worse than that Gil character from Midnight in Paris. Name your top 3 favorite books if you're so tasteful. I'm sure the best of them is less than 1% as good as Marcel Proust's worst excerpts

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:00:43 2017 No.10078283 >>10078245 Funny how a self-described voracious reader gets his allusions from movies by jewish pedophiles. You're just swimming in the jewish culture, aren't you? This is likely the main reason why you have bad taste.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:03:40 2017 No.10078291 >>10078283 Wow. Ok. And yet you still cannot name one work better than ISOLT. 8/10 troll

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:04:37 2017 No.10078296

>>10078148
Thank you, but will you create the Anti-Kafka list? It doesn't need to be long. 3 to 5 books, really. I don't intend to use this list to jump on you and criticize your taste; you've piqued my curiosity, is what it is. I assume you are the same one in this thread who is arguing against Proust. This only adds to the intrigue.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:12:07 2017 No.10078315 >>10078291 This is not about my tastes or interests. >>10078296 I'd rather not divert the thread away from the mediocre tastes and emotional reactions of Kafka/Proust fanboys and am running out the door anyway, but I'll think about it.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:14:33 2017 No.10078329

>>10078315
Nice deflection faggot but the entire thread is about determining who can match Proust and you have yet to name one author because you literally can't. The truth is that in the history of,the written word no one could compete with the godliness of Marcel Proust. Joyce is the only one who comes close.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:27:27 2017 No.10078381 >>10078283 >his only articulated point against Proust is "MUH JEWS"

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 17:29:30 2017 No.10078392 >>10078329 >>10078381 C'mon guys, I'm hoping for that list.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 18:53:50 2017 No.10078749

>>10078329
>>10078381
Again, my point here is only to highlight the immaturity of people like yourselves, whose rebuttals seem to rest on the notion that I'm incapable, even with the internet in hand were I to be exaggerating about being lightyears ahead of you in literary knowledge, of conjuring up the names of a few writers, which is obviously not the case and a weak stance to boot.

However, since I try to be forthright in all things, I plugged in ISOLT and listened to it while I was walking my dog and was able to with greater clarity recall, being unlike yourselves now past the days of my juvenile reading habits that included jokes like Proust, why I hold and have held the opinion that it is overrated and mediocre as a work of literature. I appreciate, even prefer, long sentences, but Proust is not only awkward and choppy in his attempt to construct them, he is equally unskilled at filling those sentences with any kind of beauty or meaningful substance in general. Jews are simply not good writers. They have concept of the aesthetic. And this has always been the case because prose is a European specialty and jews are semites from the desert. This is just how nature works.

Not that either of you were ever interested in material discourse though, ammiright?

>>10078392
I'm not going lather praise over any writer because I'm no longer at a point, unlike the gentlemen above, where I express adolescent admiration and unswayable affection for any particular writer. I more or less agree with a lot of the names that often come up but address them these days more on strengths and weaknesses than a juvenile, emotional connection less-well-read and more inexperienced individuals are liable to use as metrics. I appreciate the craft -- prose stylists, verbal beauticians -- because that is where the difficulty lies ... and Proust doesn't belong in the fucking conversation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 19:05:35 2017 No.10078811 >>10078050 Literally why

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 20:36:11 2017 No.10079153

>>10078749
>immaturity of people like you
what the fuck are you talking about you fucking faggot i bet you suck monster tentacle dicks for breakfast fucking fag
>lightyears ahead of you in literary knowledge
clearly not based on your analysis of Proust, but you have the right to your opinion even if it's shitty
>listened to audiobook of ISOLT before this post just to confirm your bias
faggot
>overrated and mediocre
it's underrated imo. it's regarded as one of the best works of the last century, possibly of all time, which is underrated as it should be regarded as the greatest piece of human creation
>awkward and choppy
if you have the reading level of a middle schooler
>unskilled at filling sentences with any kind of beauty or meaningful substance
not according to James Joyce, Nabokov, Woolf, Morrissey, and basically every other notable literary icon who ever read him. but hey, who should i believe, some faggot on the internet or the world's best. you're like some fat faggot in a bar saying "doyyyyy no Scottie Pippen was da best NBA player evah" while LeBron James and Shaq are saying Michael Jordan was.
>"MUH JEWS"... but look at muh material discourse
okay, /pol/
>i'm not going to lather praise over any writer because i'm actually wrong a-a-a--and fuck Proust
jesus christ you're a fucking idiot

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 20:47:19 2017 No.10079176 >>10077717 I love how no one ever complains that Morrissey is above Melville in this pasta And where's Beckett??

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 20:57:44 2017 No.10079203

>>10079153
Oh, my ... this is Sperg-Level Supreme posting lol. But it makes, and in quite spectacular fashion, my original point: the non-jews you'll see go balls-out for Proust are emotionally juvenile individuals and end-of-the-spectrum sheep personalities who have no sense of quality in literature themselves, but are merely aping an opinion that has been passed down to them. It's rather pathetic, as the above poster shows.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 21:03:31 2017 No.10079218 >>10076593 Depresses me that /lit/ is literally the only place I've ever been to where people say things as interesting as this. Expand on what you mean, anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 21:08:29 2017 No.10079234 >>10079203 you can't just diss someone without suggesting a positive alternative

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 21:09:16 2017 No.10079237 >>10079234 this >>10079203 you've yet to identify any author that is superior to Proust, simply because that does not exist

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 21:11:09 2017 No.10079246

>>10076589
When I first read some excerpts of Kafka's works, I had no idea that he was Jewish, but I was still moved by what I read.

I'm open to the idea that whole generations of men can live and die in error, but please, if you know the answer, if you know someone far better, so much better that Kafka is mediocre, please tell me who it is! This isn't a game or a ploy either, I'm quite open to someone better, or even a specific knowledge of Kafka's flaws in a way that would ruin the works for me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 21:20:14 2017 No.10079277 Shouldnt we just rename this board "/jews/"? Is literally the main topic

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 21:26:34 2017 No.10079288 >>10079237 Why is Proust so good? Genuinely curious because I've never heard any of his work.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 21:28:40 2017 No.10079298

>>10079237
>because that does not exist
This type of Proustian fundamentalism is indicative of an immature individual who lacks knowledge and experience, and that is precisely the connection I'm drawing attention to.

The mature reader does not engage in blind hero-worship like this toward any writer because they have studied a wide variety of authors and have a deep understanding of their strengths and weaknesses.

Who is better than Proust? Isn't it obvious that there's a long list? But I'm making a larger point that will get lost if I stoop to the level of under-read children and get into some Proust vs fill-in-the-blank dick-measuring contest. There are different categories of writers, it's not as simple as just posing an alternative, but if my point has been made and someone poses a category more nuanced than 'on the level of___,' then put out some real parameters.

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 21:29:04 2017 No.10079301

mann? he's not even a third-tier writer, he's one of the most overrated writers in history. your fucking list is idiotic and absurd.
no homer?
no plato?
no aeschylus?
no sophocles?
no marcus aurelis?
no virgil?
no dante?
no augustine?
no cervantes?
no shakespeare?
no flaubert?
no baudelaire?
no huysmans?
no mirbeau?
no lorrain?
no d'annunzio?
no schnitzler?
no giovanni papini?
marinetti?
sartre?
hermann kasack?
mishima?
thomas bernhard?

honestly, drink strychnine and kill yourself, kill this post, kill your existence, kill your parents for conceiving you, obliterate your existence, burn your notebooks and erase all traces of your sad, silly life

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 21:31:53 2017 No.10079309 ruskin carlyle shelley keats

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 21:33:36 2017 No.10079316 >>10079218 Not him but Kafka has a strong Christian guilt vibe, almost Catholic really

Anonymous Wed Sep 27 21:35:14 2017 No.10079325

>>10079246
Of course you were moved by it, you were, what, sixteen? Kafka's work appeals to the undeveloped male mind and is meant to exacerbate the individuals' feelings of alienation, to dwell on such things instead of helping one to conquer or overcome them. This is particularly jewish and Kafka is required reading in high schools because he is subversive, but that's getting into some big brain nigga territory most aren't ready for.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 21:37:27 2017 No.10079331 >>10079298 Name one person on this "long list" if it's so long

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 22:08:10 2017 No.10079449 >>10079331 Forget that; just give us a sentence- a single sentence- that you particularly admire. Or will that still be too much of a "dick measuring contest"?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 22:17:40 2017 No.10079468 >>10079331 >>10079449 I said I would if you provided parameters. What is it you think Proust is so good at?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 27 23:09:37 2017 No.10079638 File: 1.04 MB, 582x847, 1506556257665.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10079468 >shuts down entire thread with this question KEK, how will Proustfags ever recover?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 01:04:24 2017 No.10080037 >>10076402 Milton, Homer, Shakespeare, Cervantes, the Four Great Chinese Novelists, Murasaki, Virgil, arguably Chaucer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 02:24:31 2017 No.10080243 >>10076534 Hölderlin Nietzsche Jünger Richard Wagner

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 06:08:25 2017 No.10080651

>>10080243
Hölderlin was a poet, Nietzsche was a philosopher, I've no idea how you can think Jünger is more momentous than Mann, and I haven't read any Wagner so I can't comment.
Before you mention Hölderlin's Hyperion, I'm not saying it's not beautiful or that it's not deep, but it's also a very basic novel, being a Briefroman, and Mann was simply miles better when it came to crafting a narrative. A better early German novel would be Wieland's Agathon, but this is still pretty basic and also heavily inspired by Fielding.
Within the context implied by the OP I think it's fair to limit ourselves to writers as novelists, otherwise the field is just too broad. On that note, Fontane would also be a contender, I'm reading his Stechlin right now and it's really good. On the other hand I've read almost all of Mann's novels so I'm much more comfortable with calling him one of the greats.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 08:09:21 2017 No.10080862 >>10079468 Writing. Literature. The topic of this thread is that Proust is the GOAT of writing and your claim is that he does not even belong in this conversation.

Anonymous Thu Sep 28 08:36:41 2017 No.10080916
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Thomas Mann was a topical writer whose pseudo-baroque sentences impress plebs by piling cliches upon cliches of images. Nowhere is this more apparent when tries to capture Goethe's thoughts in Lotte in Weimar, embassing and romanticist in the worst sense of the word.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 10:03:09 2017 No.10081204 >>10077872 Hesse is dogshit, but Borges is far superior to dfw.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 10:06:08 2017 No.10081215 >>10077717 >no H. Rider Haggerty shit list, didnt finish. I recommend you do some growing up via riding a boxcar across siberia and stabbing a dude in Vladivostok for giggles and then try reranking everybody.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 10:12:29 2017 No.10081248 >>10078749 This shit is golden, I cant wait to deploy this the next time the Chargers have already lost.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 10:47:50 2017 No.10081343 >>10076402 Who is that in the middle?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 12:12:34 2017 No.10081621 >>10081343 Herge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 19:07:55 2017 No.10083166 >>10077717 Ah, this again. How grand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 19:09:31 2017 No.10083171 >>10081343 >>10081621 No, Thomas Mann.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 19:10:34 2017 No.10083172 >>10081343 Herman Hesse

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 19:31:03 2017 No.10083231 Cervantes is way superior to le ebin french faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 20:57:16 2017 No.10083460 >>10078099 >better-read Stopped reading there. Learn how to use hyphens.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 21:03:04 2017 No.10083475 >>10083231 We modernism here you fucking blind faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 28 21:04:26 2017 No.10083481 >>10083475 Pre-modern post-modernism > peasant-tier frenchie modernism

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 08:51:49 2017 No.10084995 >>10076402 Shakespeare and Tolstoy are both in the number 1 place in the podium. Then comes the rest

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 09:25:15 2017 No.10085056 >>10084995 No you dumb fuck. They aren't even in the top 5

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 11:29:27 2017 No.10085340 >>10076413 i bet 4 of them are slavic meme languages

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 11:37:55 2017 No.10085374 >>10076586 You take that back right now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 11:39:31 2017 No.10085382 >>10076841 zweig was the last european desu

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 11:40:55 2017 No.10085385

>>10076600
Don't pay any more attention to the pro or anti Jewish crowd than to the pro or anti feminist one and all the other. Anyone who let's identity politics inform their appreciation of art cannot read and is too dumb or misguided to be worth arguing with.

Anonymous Fri Sep 29 11:48:03 2017 No.10085404

>>10085385
There it is. That's the one. The first ever, in the history of 4chan. The first post that is not laced with self-hatred masked as either toilet edgelord humor or condescension. A post where someone says something, dare I say it, intelligent. Aside from maybe >>10077717

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 11:54:26 2017 No.10085416 >>10085382 Zweig was more than that, he was urbane and a metropolitan to a T, at home wherever he went

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 13:04:28 2017 No.10085611 >>10077717 cringe

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 14:30:03 2017 No.10085920 >>10085056 Who are the top 5, and why are they better than Tolstoy and Shakespeare?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 14:48:20 2017 No.10085991 >>10085382 Zweig was a kike you idiot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 15:51:01 2017 No.10086200 >>10085991 so? what makes one abrahamic death cult less european than another?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 15:55:36 2017 No.10086216 File: 176 KB, 1485x1000, gettyimages-92924383_d9e68fe098425c29964674336593b6fc.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 15:58:28 2017 No.10086230 >>10086200 Jews are middle easterners, aka not European.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 29 16:04:22 2017 No.10086244 >>10086230 >ashkenazim >middle eastern

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