/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.10059897]

>"Tom Paine's Age of Reason," Snead said, consulting his list.
>"What were the results?"
>"Two-hundred-sixty-seven blank pages. Except right in the middle the one word bleh."
Add me to the wub fanclub edition

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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Previously on the adventures of Vance
>>10051958

[Anonymous No.10059902]

First for PKD

[Anonymous No.10059911]

>>10059897
Anon, I am unable to countenance this OP pic. Dangos have no relation to SFF. We would be giving people the wrong idea about what we do here.

[Anonymous No.10059945]

>download ebook
>11000 pages
W-wew

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10059952]

>>10059945
Uhh, see you in 2018, I guess.

What is it?

[Anonymous No.10060034]

>You write like Sanderson
>He's published but you aren't

[Anonymous No.10060057]

>>10060034
What does writing like someone have to do with being published

[Anonymous No.10060191]

Books where a protagonist enters a game or tournament of great consequence? I suppose it can be like a hunger games type of ordeal but just anything interesting.

[Anonymous No.10060196]

Which fantasy books have visual aesthetics that are extremely distinct from the generic medieval drek?

[Anonymous No.10060237]

>>10060191
You can try Split Infinity, I have the book but never got around to reading it so I cannot say how good it is.

[Anonymous No.10060273]

So I just finished The Thousandfold Thought. Achamian doesn't deserve this. Please tell me that Achamian gets something other than suffering going his way in the next series.

[Anonymous No.10060285]

>>10060034
Then you can't be that much like him

[Anonymous No.10060300]

>>10060034
I hear Sanderson went like a decade before being published. You aren't bad, anon, you just need to keep it up until you break through too :)

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10060391]

>>10060191
"The Player of Games" by Iain M. Banks.

[Anonymous No.10060392]

>>10059897
why do all general threads always end up with deleted pictures?

[Anonymous No.10060420]

Hello, /sffg/, I come to you with great hope.

I have been very interested in the fantasy genre but it has been difficult to find the sort of things I like.

I'd appreciate recommendations on any of these:

1) A world with detailed history and lineages/genealogies with a heavy focus on culture, clans and the peoples inhabiting the world.
>Example: Lord of the Rings, The Silmarillion, ASoIaF to some extent

2) A world with detailed descriptions of the fauna, gods, monsters inhabiting it - a fantasy ecology that is delved into in some detail, I guess.
>Example: Something like Jeff Vandemeer's Annihilation, Witcher books, Hellboy

3) Something that focuses on survival and/or nomadic lifestyles. Based perhaps in a wasteland, frozen land or a desert
>Example: Roadside Picnic, Dune, Metro 2033

[Anonymous No.10060428]

>>10060392
Added the wrong image.

[Anonymous No.10060504]

Has anyone read Tarkin?

I got it for free and normally like star wars shit

[Anonymous No.10060577]

>>10060504
I never read it, but it's the book that first featured Sheev as the Emperor's name, so at least it has some meme value.

[Anonymous No.10060590]

>>10060196
All of them.
you sped

[Anonymous No.10060692]

>>10059952
Wheel of time

[Anonymous No.10060922]

>>10060034
It just compares word frequency.

[Anonymous No.10060928]

>>10060196
Stormlight Archive

[Anonymous No.10061405]

Holy shit, this thread is dead.

[Anonymous No.10061446]

>>10061405
Fuck you

[Anonymous No.10061454]

>>10061446
Why? For pointing out that nobody was posting in the thread for hours on end?

I didn't say I was happy about it, or that it was going to stay dead.

Anyway, is the Liveship Traders trilogy a decent place to get into Robin Hobb's work?

[Anonymous No.10061466]

>>10060504
It was ok. Enjoyable while reading but you'll soon forget it after

[Anonymous No.10061496]

>>10061454
Anon. Be quiet. I am so fucking furious with you right now. Give me a moment to calm down and we'll talk, but for now go to your fucking room

[Anonymous No.10061561]

Stumbled across this image, and it made me curious:

Are there any good books about someone from the last, say, 30 years, being frozen or otherwise rendered both immortal and incapacitated, then waking up in the distant future and having to adjust?

[Anonymous No.10061592]

>>10060273
*inhales*

[Anonymous No.10061597]

>>10060420
2) Edge Chronicles. Creatures out the ass, and there's usually some thought put into how they fit into the world.

[Anonymous No.10061709]

petition to change /sffg/ to /spec/
petition to make OP mad

[Anonymous No.10061715]

To Wolfeans: I currently have the Book of the New Sun, the Fifth Head of Cerberus, and Peace. I have read none of them. What order should I read them in?

[Anonymous No.10061719]

Give me a fantasy series to read.
I've been reading nothing but non-fiction politics and philosophy for the past couple of months and I think I need to change to something different for a bit.
Though I consider my self a huge fan of fantasy as a genre, I can't say I've actually read a ton of fantasy books beside when I young.
I have had much more experience with Fantasy is other forms of media.
So the amount of fantasy series I can give for reference to my taste isn't really all that large

Series I like now:
Mistborn
LotR
Stormlight Archive
BotNS
Night Angel Trilogy (though it's been a long time since I read it)

Series I remember liking when I was young:
Eragon (Don't laugh)
The Chronicles of Prydain
Various Brian Jacques books

And that's all I can think of at the moment

[Anonymous No.10061727]

>>10061709
I'd prefer if we just separated them and only talked fantasy here desu. Sci fi posters seem obsessed with rebbit and red pills

[Anonymous No.10061744]

>>10061405
You should see the Discord.

[Anonymous No.10061779]

>>10061719
The First Law Trilogy

[Anonymous No.10061846]

>>10061719
The Wizard Knight desu. Gene "the Meme" Wolfe is always the answer.

[Anonymous No.10061986]

>>10061719
What about ASOIAF?

[Anonymous No.10062026]

>>10061727
I occasionally try to post about Embassytown and Stephen Baxter, but no one seems interested.

[Anonymous No.10062051]

>>10060420
Anyone care to help with this?

>>10061597
Thanks

[Anonymous No.10062099]

>>10061454

No. Start with the Farseer Trilogy, if you like the world go from there.

[Anonymous No.10062112]

>>10062099
>>10061454

To elaborate, there are some things that happen in the Farseer trilogy that will help things in Liveship Traders make more sense.

[Anonymous No.10062183]

>>10061727
There are plenty of people interested in both science fiction and fantasy, and literally nobody mentioned either reddit or "red pills" in this thread before you did.

[Anonymous No.10062186]

What do you consider the most creative sci-fi novel in the past five years, whether it's actually a great book or the execution needs work and you're looking forward to watching the author improve?

Same question but for fantasy?

[Anonymous No.10062189]

>>10062026
>mfw I read Embassytown as straight SF and didn't see the British politics at all
It was neat stuff, especially the FTL fog-void in the beginning; the split personality thing was really neat, as was the thought-disease. Can't remember any of the characters except for the half-ambassador though.

[Anonymous No.10062244]

>>10062183
So? Doesn't stop it from happening fairly often

[Anonymous No.10062300]

Best rendition of a space monarchy?
Besides LotGH of course.

pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.10062312]

>>10061715

just finished Shadow of the Torturer, it was great but doesn't really pick up to amazing until halfway through

haven't read the others

[Anonymous No.10062596]

What fantasy series have good romance in them? Not necessarily the focus, but good romance in its plot.

[Anonymous No.10062603]

>>10060420
I already answered you >>10061444

[Anonymous No.10062617]

>>10061719
*cough*
What catches your fancy you could check goodreads for blurb and reviews. If you have a specific taste, just ask for the things you like.

[Anonymous No.10062629]

>>10062596
Any female urban fantasy novel. Males don't write much romance.
If you want I can list some from those I read.

[Anonymous No.10062728]

any books that treat superheroes as mythology?

[Anonymous No.10062746]

>>10060191

red rising
ready player one

[Anonymous No.10062767]

>>10062186

Quantum thief trilogy

[Anonymous No.10062952]

Do you guys ever listen to audiobooks while playing video games?

I want to read some of these but never read a book off my PC, any specific programs you guys use?

[Anonymous No.10062956]

>>10062112
I skipped the liveship and went straight to Tawny Man. Did I miss anything that wasn't explained to Fitz in some way?

[Anonymous No.10063017]

>>10062952
Just use whatever you use to play music?
mpd+ncmpcpp master race

[Anonymous No.10063040]

did i get trolled into reading this shit? i'm only a few pages in and i'm close to calling it quits. it's so fucking cheesy and bad. it's a neckbeard fantasy in the worst way possible.

>"What . . . what are you?" The guard's voice had lost its certainty. "Spirit or man?"
>"What am I?" Szeth whispered, a bit of Light leaking from his lips as he looked past the man down the long hallway. "I'm . . . sorry."

[Anonymous No.10063073]

>>10062728
The bible.
Anything dealing with greek deities
The Bhagavad Gita

[Anonymous No.10063075]

Depth of lore refers to complexity and sheer quantity.
Keeping this in mind, what has the deepest lore?

[Anonymous No.10063089]

>>10063040
It seems that our patron God Sanderson isn't for you. Please leave sffg immediately. Don't let the tab hit you on the way out.

[Anonymous No.10063113]

>>10063040
Sanderson is shit. I can't believe /sffg/ love him but shit on people like Gaiman and Mieville. Even Patrick Rothfuss is better than Sanderson imo.
I can only assume people like him because of his "anime style"

[Anonymous No.10063121]

>>10060391
>that feel when you will never get to dick Donkey's 50plus housewife wet walls
>that feel when she will never read to you while your head is in her lap, and her kids and husband is out
>that feel when she will never look my way because my dick isn't of "donkey" proportions the way she likes em (where she got the idea for the trip)
just! me lads. Any books about unrequited love between a young bookish boy and a mature married woman?

[Anonymous No.10063124]

>>10063089
Sanderson is not good. Stop trying to mislead the newfags with Mormon autism.

[Anonymous No.10063133]

>>10063113
I thought Sanderson love was ironic, because everyone here talks about how stilted his dialogue is and compares his work to anime.

[Anonymous No.10063135]

>>10063113
Hey, I like Mieville. Gay-man's kind of hit or miss though.

[Anonymous No.10063137]

>>10063113
>Sanderson is shit.
*ahem* WRONG

[Anonymous No.10063139]

>>10063113
Rothfuss is the best author in that postI actually believe that . I agree though

[Anonymous No.10063144]

am I a retard for enjoying drew karpyshyn books?

[Anonymous No.10063146]

>>10063040
What is it with mormons and the works of Elrond Hubbard?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLDUBWzpxa-B_LzhoAcpk_88j-dWkyByWq&time_continue=1&v=S3QmXxw7q8k

[Anonymous No.10063153]

>>10063133
>because everyone here talks
>a couple persons talked
>no one couldn't be arsed to contradict them
>omg the whole sffg hates Brandonson

[Anonymous No.10063166]

>>10063121
Donkey boy isn't female....

[Anonymous No.10063168]

>>10063146
Yikes. His voice sounds exactly like you'd expect it to.

[Anonymous No.10063172]

>start reading Hyperion
>that fucking prose that stays out of the way (by which I mean is never distracting, clunky, or purple) and yet is evocative as fuck
>the fucking pilgrims' introductions
>Silenus is so believably annoying and likeable at the same time
This is amazing.

Anyway, Brawne is totally my type and I expect to develop a crush on her pretty quickly. Assuming I do, without any explicit spoilers, how much anguish/pain should I brace for, on a scale of 1-10?

[Anonymous No.10063177]

>>10063146
>why does one religious sect hate other
>why did the romans hate rah
>why did the Christian hate allah
>why do the Hindus hate the sheiks
>why do Mormons hate scientology

[Anonymous No.10063196]

>>10063177
You clearly didn't even bother watching the (less than a minute long) video.

Sanderson fucking loves the book. He calls it "an action movie in book form, and a good action movie."

[Anonymous No.10063218]

Has anyone read all of Gor or will I have to do it?

[Anonymous No.10063229]

>>10063177
He loves Battlefield Earth in the same way Romney loves it.

[Anonymous No.10063244]

>>10063218
I'm missing the first couple, otherwise I'd give it a try. There's too many though.

[Anonymous No.10063258]

Just finished The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch – were false awakening / dreams within dreams / 'Inception' plots common in sci-fi prior to the 60's, or did that come around with all the dude weed?

[Anonymous No.10063269]

>>10063166
Yes she is. Only housewives read books after 40. Donkey admits she is middle aged. Older guys don't read fiction after 30. They too busy making money and setting up a nest egg.

[Anonymous No.10063291]

>>10063244
I believe anything is possible if you put your mind to it anon.

I'll go check if they're on Mobilism. My journey begins now.

If you've read a couple of them, can you tell me how abysmal they get?

[Anonymous No.10063392]

Asking again.
Any sff books with a younger male and an older female? Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous No.10063403]

>>10063392
iirc The Stand

[Anonymous No.10063406]

>>10061715
Fifth Head -> BotNS -> Peace

Unlike some other posters I don't think that reading Fifth Head is "necessary" before BotNS, but if you've already got it then might as well.

[Anonymous No.10063413]

>>10062186
SF: The Eschaton Sequence books by John C. Wright. Execution has some flaws but overall pretty solid. The last book comes out in December and I'm pretty hyped to see how it all ends.

[Anonymous No.10063418]

>>10062728
Lord of Light is pretty close, and you should read it anyway.

[Anonymous No.10063426]

>>10063392
BotNS

[Anonymous No.10063440]

>>10063392
www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/6xpgfn/is_there_a_fantasy_book_that_features_older_women/

[Anonymous No.10063586]

>>10062956

How the dragons are coming back, mostly.

[Anonymous No.10063611]

>>10062956
>>10063586

I mean, Tintaglia is in Tawny Man, didn't you ever wonder where she came from?

[Anonymous No.10063720]

>>10063440
>having to use that red place to find books

[Anonymous No.10063770]

>>10063720
>crying over this
Not him.

I'll tell you what the meaning of desperation is, it's using motherfucking goodreads new releases to find books because you've already exhausted the similar books on this thread, warosu, /lit, the thead's charts, r/printsf, book reviews, comparison sites on random blogs and tumblr.

Thankfully I found out that SF Masterworks don't have shit taste and there's very conveniently a 162 retail torrent collection of it on a site I'm on and I just go through all of the ones that look interesting.

[Anonymous No.10063777]

>>10063440
>meme of time
>self published books
>croaker and lady
>dagger and shill series
Reddites are tame. Give me~ i mean my friend some real milf stories.
I read the stand (i want an older walking onahole during a post apocalyptic scenario)
i read bakker

Gib my friend supple milfs who charm younger males into their beds(read Tampa too)

[Anonymous No.10063797]

>>10063770
What specifically are you looking for, maybe I can help?

You aren't that retarded autistic anon who was crying all of last year that he can't find books to read because he needs this "specific exact thing" in his books, are you?

[Anonymous No.10063799]

>>10063720
You're the one dredging for fetish bait, frogman.

[Anonymous No.10063803]

>>10063291
I don't know. Can't start until I have the beginning y'know?

[Anonymous No.10063807]

>>10063799
>wanting to fuck and cuddle with qt supple older women is fetish bait
Look at this uncultured swine

[Anonymous No.10063812]

>>10063797
I'm currently going through the remainder of the SF masterworks collection so I'm good for the moment. Saw them on anon's shelf photo and realised that whoever was publishing those didn't have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.10063814]

>>10063777

[Anonymous No.10063817]

>>10063807
Please find relevant covers or SFF themed MILFs to post instead of spamming these photos every couple threads. I believe in you frogman.

[Anonymous No.10063835]

>>10063770
Got a link to that torrent?

[Anonymous No.10063861]

>>10063835
It's all on bibliotik.
There was a freeleech awhile back for all retail books and spaghetti downloaded every retail science fiction book and hosted it here: http://share.soupwhale.com/bibliotik/files/

It's more convenient on the collection, though, because you can literally either straightup download the files or click through and see the summary and cover.

[Anonymous No.10063900]

>>10063803
>>10063244

It's all on Mobilism!!!!

I can't fucking wait.

[Anonymous No.10063913]

mindfucky scifi recs pls

[Anonymous No.10063934]

>>10063392
laddies.. i don't like what this gif is making me feel....

[Anonymous No.10063961]

>>10063861
Woah thanks

[Anonymous No.10063964]

>>10063913
Son of Man by Silverberg

[Anonymous No.10063971]

>>10063961
It doesn't really matter that much anyway because only 0.5% of books are unique to bibliotik or MAM and all the ones that aren't are generally Kindle Unlimited or other shit books. If you follow this guide you will get 99.95% of the books and if you followed this guide and can't find a book epub post it on this thread and I'll look it up on bib and MAM for you.

General google search can also turn up stuff.

The majority of stuff that you can't get easily is listed on worldcat.org as a physical book only. There's almost nothing you can't get for free.

[Anonymous No.10064109]

I got the Omnibus of the Foundation Trilogy.

Is this a fucking children's book?

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10064163]

>>10064109
1. 1951-3. Scifi is barely past rayguns and flying saucers.
2. Asimov was an ideas guy. I guess.

[Anonymous No.10064174]

>>10064163
I think I fucked up when I suspected it to be on Dunes level or something. I started cringing at sentences like:

"For a moment, he was too startled to put into words the inevitable "What are you doing here?" that came to his lips."

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10064199]

>>10064174
Yeah, that's just Asimov. He's not going to impress you with his wordplay. He can put together a framework and advance the plot but that's about it.
If you ever really want a chuckle, listen to the Foundation audiobooks read by Scott Brick. I can still hear that guy saying, "Great Space!".

[Anonymous No.10064218]

Where is shrek? His donkey is acting up again.

[Anonymous No.10064233]

Finished the first book of Malazan.

I wish Darujhistan blew the fuck up...the story would be 10 times more interesting. Then I started to get lost when all of the super cool anime characters started turning into dragons. The death of __Adjunct Lorn__was sorta pointless but funny. Tatersail and Paran's romance was like a bad movie, one scene and they are soul mates or some shit. When the thieves left the city it was pointless because they just went right back for no reason. He tries to set you up like this world will be a dark, realistic place. But then Anomander Rake does shit for...I don't know, being a hero?

[Anonymous No.10064259]

>>10064174
Asimov values plot more than his ability to regurgitate the thesaurus. But overall his writing isn't that bad. It's amusing in one of the Second Foundation Trilogy books (aka glorified approved fanfiction) when one of the authors tries to write like Asimov and ends up sounding like an unreadable retard.

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10064289]

>>10064259
>one of the authors tries to write like Asimov and ends up sounding like an unreadable retard
That and should be a but because it's just begging for someone to slam dunk this lob home.

[Anonymous No.10064292]

>>10064289
I need sleep. Good pickup.

[Anonymous No.10064296]

I made a video about litRPG as a genre.

I tried my best to define it, but it's still kind of hard to nail down what it is exactly.

https://youtu.be/4tfuKumsygA

[Anonymous No.10064418]

>>10064296
This makes me feel old.

[Anonymous No.10064474]

>>10064296
Solid video. Better than litRPG deserves, though.

[Anonymous No.10064492]

Any books about characters seeking immortality or divinity but without a moral message that you shouldn't do it?

[Anonymous No.10064522]

Both of the two wub short stories by PKD are really good. The telepathy element is reused in Martian Time Slip and the wub discussing philosophy after it had taken over was cute, fuck Franco. I was expecting something to happen to Masters at the end of the sequel, though given the typical cliche of immortality being bad. Fucking wubs, I love them.

-

So I was looking for a book in the same vein as that selfcontained Rick and Morty episode where the city populated entirely populated by multiple versions of themselves has culminated in a kind of personalised hell for most of the people involved.

So both of these books are very dystopian (as per usual Strugatsky and PKD fare.)

THE MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE
4/5 book compared to Ubik and Three Stigmata which I would rate 5/5. This is an alt history where Germany and Japan wins. My favourite moment is when Reiss (Nazi) is trying to read his goddamn book and gets interrupted every thirty seconds (which oddly humanises him). I actually liked Nazi-kun much more than that unredeemable asshole Buckman in Flow My Tears mostly because he planted a fucking bomb on Taverner and still tried to get him trouble realising what Taverner went through. Really?. Ending with all the writer saving was a bit gratuitous.

Tagomi was an unexpected favourite of mine I was absolutely certain that he was going to sell out Baynes but for once PKD had some mercy. The typical PKD mindfuck appears but only a small section.

I liked the ending.

THE DOOMED CITY
Another 4/5 novel. Essentially the Doomed City (by the Strugatskys) isn't as good as Roadside Picnic or their Noonuniverse novels but the translation is pretty readable compared to The Beetle in the Anthill. Essentially the Mentors (of unknown origin) have been conducting a sociological experiment by taking volunteers from various time periods, countries and beliefs in the City which is a bit like a planet with a sun they can turn on and off. Fascinating concepts.

It has a lot more psychological elements like Roadside Picnic compared to the Noon Universe books. Wish it was part of the Noon Universe so I could see the Mentors interact with Rudolf Sikorski. Oh well.

Favourite character was Izya he was fucking hilarious. And I also loved Fritz too and how although he was blatantly Nazi, I liked him quite a bit.

The ending was kind of shitty and abrupt. What the fuck happened to Fritz and co? I thought that the first circle was a reference to him passing the first circle of hell.

[Anonymous No.10064548]

>>10063040
Sanderson is shit phampai. Wait until you get to the jokes.

[Anonymous No.10064561]

Anyone read The Emperor's Blade? Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.10064562]

>>10064522
And as for more Dick that was unrelated to the theme of social science fiction

MARIAN TIMESLIP
Another 4/5 novel, not as brilliant as Three Stigmata and Ubik. I found the revisitation of the Beethoven scene quite annoying and I felt that Three Stigmata was more interesting than this. The science was pretty questionable but I enjoyed the concept of autism that Dick presented and the lines about schizophrenia were great.

Felt really bad for Norbert, he was absolutely fucking PKD'd.

The cast was less interesting than Three Stigmata, but I didn't feel that Kott deserved it - that part of the novel was incredibly brutal. Kott might have been a massive shithead but he wasn't as bad as Leo Bulero (I mean giving people FUCKING EPILEPSY in exchange for giving them their job back? What a fucking fuckhead who deserves to be put in through the gluck dimension by Eldritch repeatedly.) who is probably the biggest shithead in every PKD novel combined.

Glaub was a pretty sophisticated character, the best of the bunch. Loved his little insecurities, his jealousies and what he tried to do.

Tomb world and the aspect of absolute reality are again explicitly mentioned.

The ending of Martian Timeslip is a mindfuck to end all mindfucks. After working through Three Stigmata and Ubik I think I get it but did Manfred time travel?

[Anonymous No.10064611]

>>10064522
And as for more Dick that was unrelated to the theme of social science fiction

MARTIAN TIMESLIP
Another 4/5 novel, not as brilliant as Three Stigmata and Ubik. I found the revisitation of the Beethoven scene quite annoying and I felt that Three Stigmata was more interesting than this. The science was pretty questionable but I enjoyed the concept of autism that Dick presented and the lines about schizophrenia were great.

Felt really bad for Norbert, he was absolutely fucking PKD'd.

The cast was less interesting than Three Stigmata, but I didn't feel that Kott deserved it - that part of the novel was incredibly brutal. Kott might have been a massive shithead but he wasn't as bad as Leo Bulero (I mean giving people FUCKING EPILEPSY in exchange for giving them their job back? What a fucking fuckhead who deserves to be put in through the gluck dimension by Eldritch repeatedly.) who is probably the biggest shithead in every PKD novel combined.

Glaub was a pretty sophisticated character, the best of the bunch. Loved his little insecurities, his jealousies and what he tried to do. His contempt was relatable.

Tomb world and the aspect of absolute reality are again explicitly mentioned.

The ending of Martian Timeslip is a mindfuck to end all mindfucks. After working through Three Stigmata and Ubik I think I get it but did Manfred time travel?

[Anonymous No.10064613]

>>10062629
he was asking for _good_ romance

[Anonymous No.10064621]

>>10063133
>implying anime is bad
wrong
>implying sanderson is anime
wrong

for good anime read the traveler's gate trilogy and cradle by will wight. skysworn (cradle #4) will be released on october 1st.

[Anonymous No.10064727]

Wow so grrm is a fascist now
https://www.overthinkingit.com/2011/06/30/game-of-thrones-fascism/

[Anonymous No.10064852]

Don't suppose anyone can rec me something else like Baru Cormorant?

I want more interesting settings with utter and abject heartbreak at the end because I hate myself.
Lesbians not required but nice I guess

[Anonymous No.10064864]

>>10064852
>actually sitting down and reading drivel from a leftwing leaning parasite
https://www.sethdickinson.com/2015/11/24/the-secret-design-of-the-traitor-baru-cormorant/

[Anonymous No.10064875]

>>10064852
You do realise that this is massive spoiler material, right? 1984
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DownerEnding/Literature

[Anonymous No.10064901]

>>10064875
Fair point anon, I'll delete.

>>10064864
I'm not seeing your point or the problem here

[Anonymous No.10064915]

>>10059897
what was the image lol

[Anonymous No.10064922]

>>10064901
>— but first, let’s talk about the power of stories. The human mind is a cognitive miser. It hates to think, because thinking is really expensive. So we use stories to organize facts. Stories provide us with cognitive schema, altering our models of how the universe behaves.
>For many years I studied racial bias in police shootings. I operated millisecond-level reaction trackers, studied eyetracking data, and joined a lab that hunted the very neural correlates of implicit racial bias: not the blunt, conscious prejudice we hold in contempt, but the automatic, low-level associations that infect us all.
>We could see the cultural story that links black Americans to violence. We could see it in the reaction time data, in the motion of the eye, in the lightning of the brain. We could see it altering when and where people pulled the trigger.
>We could see that story killing people.
>We are all infected. Down in the automatic subsystems of the brain, the evolutionary strata that support and shape our consciousness. There are ways of learning down there which we cannot access or override, and they learn from mere exposure, they feed on simple emotion, and they say: I have seen these two things together, so they are connected. I have seen these people connected to this fear, and so they are one. These systems choose how close we sit to members of other races. They alter our facial microexpressions with split-second frames of hostility and disgust. They tip the balance when we choose between two candidates for a job. All of us are infected.
>Where do these stories come from? How do we learn them? How do they gain power over us, even when we reject them with our waking minds?
>This is why I chose to write about the problem of powerful stories. They work. Our world is full of them, and they continue to propagate forward.
>We must confront them.

>These are the villains of the story, and the stories of the villains:
>Gender is biology. (In a feudal power game, women serve as prizes, not leaders.)
>Race is destiny. (When the colonizers arrive, the poor simple colonized are overwhelmed.)
>Queer relationships are doomed. (In a homophobic world, queer people suffer and die.)

this book literally, by the authors own admission, is brainwashing

[Anonymous No.10064929]

>>10064492
Kinda
Quantum thief
Lord of Light
Cabal the necromancer
Altered Carbon
Roadside picnic
coldfire trilogy
End of Black Company

[Anonymous No.10064939]

>>10064915
Please install 4chan-x for easy thread archive viewing.

[Anonymous No.10064942]

>>10064922
Sounds more like it's trying to make you think about things.
Which doesn't exactly sound like another Shoah

[Anonymous No.10064949]

>>10064942
yeah it is trying to make you think that sex isn't real and straight white people are evil

[Anonymous No.10064959]

https://www.sethdickinson.com/2013/08/11/elysium/
lol what a gigantic cuck

[Anonymous No.10064960]

>>10064561
>posting my charts for over 3 years
>no one reads them
>they come in and ask inane questions about people reading books that is on a chart up in the thread
>>10062617 the author fumbles the ball in book 2, then completely drops it in book 3. Fuck Adare.

[Anonymous No.10064965]

>>10064949
No it's trying to make you think that men and women aren't set in roles from birth, that a 'race destiny' is shit and people shouldn't be racist, and that gay people should be allowed to exist.

Which seems alright to me

[Anonymous No.10064971]

>>10064613
Then he will have to get gay shit (if you are the anon opposed to female authors ), male authors can't compare when it comes to romance like females. I used to read a lot of sff female romance in my teens. I'm not a gril but I wanted to fap(and did a few time) when I read some of these books.

[Anonymous No.10064973]

>>10064959
Agreed. The film is shallow and preachy beyond belief, but it's even bigger failing yet is the ending. What do they imagine is going to happen when the already massively overpopulated, depleted, violent, barely habitable planet gets free access to perfect healthcare? Do they really imagine this to be a net good for humanity?

[Anonymous No.10064974]

>>10064965
dude he is literally having a mental breakdown because of black violence. read the blog post

[Anonymous No.10064982]

>>10064971
>men aren't romantic
that's sexist

[Anonymous No.10064984]

>>10064974
So?
The book doesn't even really say shit about black people, it's about women and gays, with some tiny racism thrown in.

[Anonymous No.10064988]

>>10064984
>he continues not to read the blog post
it is all explained in the blog post

[Anonymous No.10064991]

>>10061561
Not last 30 years but theres return from the stars by lem and the futurological congress by lem

[Anonymous No.10064992]

>>10064965
Just ignore him. Polkun admitted he doesn't read, he just googles books people recommend and looks for political related shit, so he can pretend that he read it and spout the anti-(insert his allegiance here) rhetoric that is (((supposedly))) contained in the pages.

[Anonymous No.10064999]

>>10064992
>polkun
no idea who this is
>so he can pretend that he read it
please quote me where i pretended to have read the book

[Anonymous No.10065004]

>>10064992
>that is (((supposedly))) contained in the pages
the author wrote a blog post about what this book is about. nothing ((supposedly)) about that. kys

[Anonymous No.10065007]

>>10064988
>as he continues to not understand that I don't care
It was a good book with characters I liked and related to.
I don't run screaming because Orson Scott Card hates gay people and I'm not going to run screaming because Dickinson doesn't hate blacks women and gays.

[Anonymous No.10065010]

>>10065007
/pol/shits are not logical and will do anything in order to avoid reading.

[Anonymous No.10065011]

>>10064982
Get you thumblefagget ass back to your hovel and kys immediately.

[Anonymous No.10065012]

>>10065007
well you should. the homophobia in enders game was out of place (but the book is shit anyways)

>>10065010
i read the blog post. you didn't. try making an actual argument next time

[Anonymous No.10065017]

>>10062952
Audiobookdroid on my phone . playing games without the sound ( usually slow/pausable/turnbased stuff like total war or heroes 3 )

[Anonymous No.10065018]

>>10065012
>well you should
Why?
Give me a single good reason why, other than that you personally disagree with some of the writers stated goals in his book.

[Anonymous No.10065020]

>>10065012
>I definitely read the blogpost but not the book itself, I absorbed the book via telepathy
Nice goalpost moving /pol/kun.

[Anonymous No.10065024]

>>10065020
>muh /pol/
amazing argument. im completely BTFO now XDDDDDDD

[Anonymous No.10065027]

>>10065004
Rollie pollie plz. Not because the mods are thwarting you, by deleting your foray into cultivating lit as an annex means you can shit up our general. Please leave.

[Anonymous No.10065033]

>>10065027
>Please leave
why? am i not allowed to discuss literature here because you dont agree with my opinions? please clarify

[Anonymous No.10065034]

>>10065024
>resorts to shitposting rather than reading the actual book and not just a blogpost article unrelated to the book
Looks like >>10064992 is perfectly correct.

[Anonymous No.10065036]

>>10065007
Pol likes to read blogs and infographics, instead of actual books.

[Anonymous No.10065041]

>>10065036
>muh /pol/
>reading what the author writes about his own book is wrong
sure is reddit in here. you won. im leaving. have fun in your echo chamber

[Anonymous No.10065043]

>>10065018
>>10065041

Oh do at least answer this before you go, I'd love to know

[Anonymous No.10065053]

>>10065041
My goal is also to read a minimum of 1 blogpost per year. Perhaps if we can work together we can realise our dreams.

[Anonymous No.10065056]

>if any opinion is expressed in a work, it is literally MKULtra-tier brainwashing and the author is trying to turn your children into zombies
Okay, buddy. Better not read basically any book ever written.

The Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser story "Bazaar of the Bizarre" is partly making fun of Hollywood and advertising in general; better not read Lieber, that fucking monster.

Tolkien was expressing some ideas about industrialization. What a piece of shit!

Le Guin, don't get me started on Le Guin. Writing about politics OPENLY?! And including her spirituality in the Earthsea books? I hate the world for spawning her!

Oh, and of course George Orwell attempted to warn people about the dangers of authoritarianism, which is the most authoritarian thing a person can do!

[Anonymous No.10065057]

>>10065033
You can discuss books here. But keep the political shit out. Or keep it to something that actually happens in the books, not some post print drivel that the author swears "is really happening". Authors lie after the point to gain cookie points. Look at Rothfuss, look at Rowling.

[Anonymous No.10065063]

>>10065057
Authors also often just are better at actually writing their work than discussing it. You can have a political theme in your work and handle it well, then, describing your inclusion of those themes, make the work sound like straight up propaganda.

[Anonymous No.10065164]

any fantasy stories involving inflation and fiat currency with heavy geopolitics with a one eyed man and a loli as the protagonists?

[Anonymous No.10065195]

>>10065164
If you'll settle for a teenage girl as a major side character, American Gods.

[Anonymous No.10065208]

HOLY SHIT is Hyperion good.

Probably gonna power my way through all four books the next couple weekends. Any other series you can recommend for quality writing like this?

[Anonymous No.10065239]

>>10065208
Vellum (The Book of All Hours) is the closest I've read I think, not counting the superficial aspects.

I wonder if there's a pure fantasy equivalent of Hyperion

[Anonymous No.10065249]

>>10065208
Should I tell him?

>all 4 books
Oh sweet summer child

[Anonymous No.10065274]

>>10065249
Don't bully De Soya.

[Anonymous No.10065293]

>>10065274
I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.10065334]

>>10065249
Are you talking about the fact that there are technically two books in four volumes, or something else?

[Anonymous No.10065388]

>>10065208
>Probably gonna power my way through all four books the next couple weekends.
Oh sweet lawdy. Pic related is what you're gonna look like in the next couple weekends.

[Anonymous No.10065395]

>>10065334
I meant FoH doesn't have a proper finale and Endymion is shit

[Anonymous No.10065452]

>>10064296
>litRPG

First time I've heard of this...the video is great. I can only see this genre doing well if it talks about the players lives playing the game and there being some story involving the players in real life and him/her being affected by playing this game.

[Anonymous No.10065472]

>>10065293
He's a genuinely good, sincere and complex character who deserves to be read.

One of a few genuinely purehearted characters on my favourites list which is otherwise dominated by characters who did absolutely everything wrong.

[Anonymous No.10065473]

>>10065208
> Any other series you can recommend for quality writing like this?
Ilium.

[Anonymous No.10065502]

>>10063040
Do we read the same thread? How did you manage to get recommended to read Sanderson by /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.10065529]

>>10065502
We recommend Sanderson all the time you mong. Lots of anons like and dislike him.

[Anonymous No.10065534]

>>10065472
Is that the priest who becomes Pope?

[Anonymous No.10065561]

>>10065529
Whenever Sanderson is mentioned the usual responses are that he's shit, that a couple of his books are actually not shit, that parts of Stormlight are not shit and sometimes posts shilling him. A mix like that literally scream DON'T READ to me. Kinda like Malazan discussion.

[Anonymous No.10065650]

Any fantasy or science fiction books where I have a bf?

[Anonymous No.10065933]

>>10064939
No thanks

[Anonymous No.10066042]

How can I make dinosaurs work in a typical fantasy setting where they are character's steeds instead of horses?

[Anonymous No.10066044]

>>10065650
download grindr

[Anonymous No.10066132]

Can anyone recommend me something like the Witcher, Monster Hunter or even Fantastic Beasts, where the focus is on a variety of imaginatively designed creatures with detailed characteristics and attributes?

How is China Mieville's Railsea in this regard?

[Anonymous No.10066244]

>>10066044
Isn't that for gay men?

[Anonymous No.10066252]

Any fantasy books that use beam axes? Like beam swords but you know with axes instead?

[Anonymous No.10066276]

>>10066132
Perdido Street Station might have some of that.

[Anonymous No.10066312]

Is the Broken Empire trilogy good? I'm reading Blade Itself right now, and enjoying it, but I like having a backlog.

[Anonymous No.10066350]

>>10066132
In case you don't know, the Witcher is based on a book series.

[Anonymous No.10066383]

>>10066350
The writing is much better in the games though

[Anonymous No.10066583]

>>10065561
You are a newfag. sftu. You think we would have so many sanderson memes if we didn't like him? It's just that the sanderson fans don't really care when you guys shit talk him. Wait till the end of October, you will see this general become Sanderson incarnate.

[Anonymous No.10066590]

>>10066042
You mean like pic related?

[Anonymous No.10066595]

>>10066252
Yes.
No, I can't tell you which scifi books off the top of my head used it.

[Anonymous No.10066596]

>>10066583
>Wait till the end of October, you will see this general become Sanderson incarnate
Yeah, because fantasy "fans" love Sanderson and will take to the internet to discuss his latest book.

[Anonymous No.10066615]

>>10066042
That doesn't remotely sound like a difficult thing to do. Most dinosaurs were herbivores, so unless you want people riding around on raptors or some shit, the 'what do they eat' question is mostly solved. Just treat them like any other domesticated beast, through selective breeding they become more docile, faster, or whatever you need. For ideas regarding big-ass animals, maybe read up on how India used and trained elephants or something.

[Anonymous No.10066627]

>>10066583
I read sanderson but I'm certainly not a fan. He's just a very accessible author. But do I like him? I don't know, he just has too many flaws

[DOnkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10066716]

>>10066615
>. . . riding around on raptors or some shit, the 'what do they eat' question is
Answered by, 'your enemies'.

[Anonymous No.10066763]

>>10064621
Will your books are fun but stop advertising them on sffg

[Anonymous No.10066800]

Why, out of all the *punk subgenres, is Steampunk the only one that can't go beyond being an aesthetic for settings?

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10066811]

>>10066800
I'm a big cyberpunk fan but how is it more than an aesthetic? I'd argue for the exploration of AI and androids as evidence but those are predictable future possibilities.
Steampunk lacks that basis; it simply cannot exist as described, so how would you be as much invested in exploring additions to that aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.10066812]

>>10066800
It can (imperialism, early industrialization and worker class exploration, liberal optimism and
strong faith in science) it just usually doesn't.

[Anonymous No.10066834]

>tfw you're done with your magnum opus and revolutionize sff for a new generation

[Anonymous No.10066865]

Any books with qt aliens who fall in love with protagonist or vice Verser?

[Anonymous No.10066872]

>>10066865
Name of the Wind.

[Anonymous No.10066888]

There was a dead American Catholic sf author widely recommended here who is famous for his allegedly crazy but gorgeous prose. I forgot his name, remind me? It's not Miller or Wolfe.

[Anonymous No.10066898]

>>10066888
R.A. Lafferty, probably.

[Anonymous No.10066921]

>>10066898
Yup, thanks.

[Anonymous No.10066931]

>>10060191
ready player one
if you like 80's videogames and pop culture

[Anonymous No.10066938]

>>10066872
No sci-fi? Damn shame. Thanks anyway. I couldn't even find anything on tvtropes.

[Anonymous No.10066948]

>>10065933
You are a fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.10066985]

>>10066931
And terrible prose.

[Anonymous No.10067079]

When I die I want to leave behind an heirloom that my descendants will ascribe mystical/ovcult ideas towards. How do I go about this? I was thinking maybe a huge hourglass in a room noone else is allowed to enter but I'm open to ideas

[Anonymous No.10067092]

>>10067079
You have a whole room to spare for something like that?

[Anonymous No.10067104]

>>10067092
I'm sure I'll have a room at middle age or later to spare, I'm living fairly frugally and saving up. And I'd go pretty far for it, the idea of a special heirloom really appeals to me. And in a way it'd keep my legacy alive, and a spare room is cheaper than a pyramid

[Anonymous No.10067120]

>>10067104
You could have your skeleton plated in gold or something. Casting the bones in some metal and making a statue. Maybe just the skull and decorate it with jewels.

[Anonymous No.10067137]

>>10067120
That won't really mystify, they'd just throw it away.
The slow burn of never knowing what's in that room, then finding out and still not having the answers.... more than anything I want something that'll capture their imagination
Also I'm not saying I'll be crazy rich

[Anonymous No.10067159]

>>10067137
Maybe a puzzlebox? Can't be opened without destroying it or knowing the solution. Make it almost impossible. Hide a dickbutt in it.

[Anonymous No.10067224]

Hey /sffg/ how does this sound for a setting

>X is a big city in north america on the scale of New York or Paris with a long and bizzarre secret history
>the city as it is was established in 1621 atop the ruins of a great city the natives abandoned
>That in turn was built upon another and another in regular layers, which are suspected to fill in a crater basin
>Despite having an incredibly convenient tunnel system and subterranean river that would normally make establishing subways and sewage systems a breeze, the city holds a world record for casualties during their construction, almost all of which was under perplexing circumstances
>There are a number of works of native construction still above ground, which urban legend holds are built almost like architectural puzzle boxes

>>10067079
have an ornate clock made of some unusual material with 13 hours on the face and make sure it has secret compartments

[Anonymous No.10067235]

>>10067079
Buy land out in the middle of nowhere then maybe once or twice a year you go out there with some building supplies and work on building an altar.

Next you should learn Latin, well enough to write in it, then start writing a manuscript. Get to at least 100 pages, more is better though. Fill it with diagrams depicting rituals in the most obscure way possible as well as a map to the location of your altar. Try to leave some traces of "rituals" there that line up with what you describe in the book. Transcribe imaginary conversations with extra-planar entities, describe prophetic visions and visions of the distant past. Escalate the tone later on to become more fearful and frantic, so that you are just raving and repeating yourself constantly in the last chapter. To finish up the tome you should bind it in a nice leather cover and put a lock on it, then wrap it up nice and tight in some kind of canvas covering.

Lastly: Get a trunk or chest, something water tight, and fill it halfway with white sand, then put the wrapped up tome inside and finish filling up the chest/trunk with sand. Put a lock on the chest. In your will refer to it as "the ark" and instruct that nobody is to open it under any circumstances.

[Anonymous No.10067261]

>>10066865
Depending on how you define fall in love, Cherryh's Hestia might do it for you.

[Anonymous No.10067263]

>>10066383
Facts

[Anonymous No.10067272]

>>10067261
Neat, thanks. I am genuinely surprised that this is a hard to find thing to be honest. I would've thought interspecies romance would have been more common in SciFi.

[Anonymous No.10067275]

>>10067224
Sounds like it could fit right into the new weird milieu. Might have potential.

[Anonymous No.10067279]

>>10066590
that quote always makes me kek

[Anonymous No.10067345]

>>10067272
I've read a few, but if it isn't a major focus I tend not to remember that part of the book. I post the ones I do remember fairly often, that's why I hadn't replied to you yet (assuming it's you who've been asking the last couple threads). I've intended to make a xeno list for some time, but still it languishes.
Pic related is very obviously written by a woman (Cherrhy's isn't). I consider any MC who's list of attributes includes rebellious and ethnic native american (half) to be female author fetish bait. I don't recall if there was much romance or just the MC impressing the local scaly babes with the size of his member and seducing an evil countess or something.

[Anonymous No.10067358]

>>10060196
Dune

[Anonymous No.10067380]

>>10067272
Most books by Philip José Farmer. Too bad they're usually beyond terrible.

[Anonymous No.10067387]

>>10067345
I'm usually pretty down for wacky old SF cover art, but that has the look of some of the skeevier 3d rendered futa porn I've seen out there.

[Anonymous No.10067391]

>>10060034
>You write far better than Sanderson
>But you're too lazy to write 1,757,000 words per year like he does

[Anonymous No.10067414]

>>10067391
As someone who really doesn't read much science fiction or fantasy anymore, how much attention do people who read genre fiction pay to the writing itself? I know the meme is to treat everyone who reads it like they only care about beating off to escapism and world building, but I'm guessing they have to care about the craft too.

[Anonymous No.10067458]

>>10067414
It's impossible not to play attention.

You could write down my perfect personal fantasy, if the writing was shit, it would be a huge pain in the ass. I'd still read it though.

[Anonymous No.10067480]

how generic is the idea of "supernatural stuff was caused by a piece of an elder god that plummeted to earth?"

Right now I'm thinking of Jojo, Samurai Jack, Kirby, and also all post-judaic abrahamic religions

[Anonymous No.10067547]

>>10067345
Yeah, I asked last thread. The reason I'm asking on lit is because I could only find fics like your pic related. I want a good or epic story, here mc gets alien love interest like my previous pic related. At this point it seems like my only hope is to write one of my own but I'm too inexperienced to do that yet. I'll guess I'll keep asking till I strike gold.

[Anonymous No.10067597]

>>10067547
Ah, yeah. That was the other reason I hadn't yet responded. I'm not up on these new-fangled videogames, so I didn't know exactly what you were looking for. Perhaps another Cherryh will be relevant to your interests. One of the major themes is that appearances are deceiving and apparent similarities can lead to lethal misjudgments, so physically the aliens look like ebony skinned giants with night vision. The MC is a trained linguist and ambassador to the aliens. Series is ongoing, around 15 titles now, but the 3 book arcs generally wrap things up well.

[Anonymous No.10067611]

>>10066763
>Will your books are fun but stop advertising them on sffg
It's funny someone (probably Will) shilled me that book years ago, I then took up the shilling but I never saw my shill again...

[Anonymous No.10067621]

>>10067597
Looks interesting, I'll give it a look. I guess the best descriptor I can come up with is Sci-fi fantasy or space lord of the rings I.E. there is a galaxy wide threat and only one hero is capable of stopping it. Odd that on of my favourite take always from that series are the relationships, but I dunno. I think I'm just tired of vanilla. Thanks again.

[Anonymous No.10067661]

>>10066244
>not wanting a gay bf

are you sure you're a woman who reads genre fiction

[Anonymous No.10067671]

>syl likes breaking into homes to watch people fuck

Sanderson you godless heathen, my waifu is no longer pure.

[Anonymous No.10067693]

>>10067671
I keep forgetting to read those Oathbringer sample chapters.

[Anonymous No.10067710]

Thoughts on Gloriana? Worth a read?

[Anonymous No.10067733]

>>10067710
>memecuck

[Anonymous No.10067807]

>>10067671
is Sanderson slowly turning to the GRI side?

[Anonymous No.10067905]

>>10067051

[Anonymous No.10068000]

>>10066312
It's pretty great

[Anonymous No.10068015]

What's a fantasy novel where slavery is considered something expected and natural?

It's always kind of annoying to see fantasy medieval worlds with a modern set of values. Of course it's even more annoying when the world has medieval or otherwise non-modern values, but the protagonist somehow has modern values and fights for them.

[Anonymous No.10068027]

>>10068015
Black Prism

[Anonymous No.10068064]

>>10068015
The Spice and Wolf light novels. It has in-depth medieval economics and eschews contemporary values. Slavery isn't necessarily the focus though. It's also an LN, but it does scratch that particular itch. I thought it was worth mentioning, and it's probably the only one of its kind worth reading.

[Anonymous No.10068303]

>>10067235
High effort but kinda brilliant
>>10067224
I like this too.

[Anonymous No.10068322]

>>10068015
Several forms of slavery accepted by the societies in the Stormlight books.

[Anonymous No.10068376]

>>10068322
It's like 99% surely leading up to a moral about slavery being bad. Shallan pays hers exceptionally well too, and fislikes slavers. Kaladin treated his parshman as equal

[Anonymous No.10068401]

>>10059952
>>10054905
The illustrations in the VIE are very different from the e-book covers. I'm not so sure about the internal art (if there is any) as I've only read 1 and 1/4 of the e-books, and neither had any internal illos, and I didn't check my corresponding VIE volumes afterward to see if they had any either.

You can see a few examples of what they look like on the web. They were illustrated by Paul Rhoads.

[Anonymous No.10068428]

>>10068376
I expect if he turns into the militaristic version he might try and kill Kaladin though. I hope so at least

[Anonymous No.10068452]

>>10068015
The Chronicles of Gor.

[Anonymous No.10068485]

>>10068428
Kaladin will be the red thread throughout every book, won't die. If he does get killed he'll just return is a messianic metapjor kinda way

[Anonymous No.10068505]

What does /SfGf/ think of Will Wight?

[Anonymous No.10068539]

>>10068485
>red thread
Wut

[Anonymous No.10068559]

>>10068539
Might not work in english. It means a thing that runs through the entirety of something tying it together. Kaladin is gonna be there in every book

[Anonymous No.10068577]

>>10068376
The way I see it, slavery ultimately is bad, except in some Utopian slave welfare society or something.
However the book has some exploration on the subject as several of the cultures do not condone it. Slave brands are seen as a just punishment by the majority. We also see glimpses of the unusual state of slavery in Shinovar, where it is a thing of honor or dishonor, not simple shackles and forced bondage. An example of a willing slave from there in the form of Szeth, who in repentance is adamant in following every (horrendous) command given him except ones to free himself from bondage, in any way.

t. the anon you replied to

[Anonymous No.10068584]

>>10068559
Red thread doesn't exist in English. Instead you should use theme, leitmotif, thread, or breadcrumb. But I think you were trying to say something different, like anchor, constant or glue.

[Anonymous No.10068609]

>>10068584
>leitmotif
There's that German word again.

>>10068559
What language?

[Anonymous No.10068658]

>>10068609
Danish

[Anonymous No.10068661]

>>10068015
I haven't read Prince of Nothing series but I'd expect it to have that based on what I've heard.

[Anonymous No.10068663]

>>10067710
>unfulfilled queen
She a Stacey then.

[Anonymous No.10068669]

>>10068584
I suppose what I'm going for is maybe common thread, although that seems like a less versatile word.
What I mean is that I believe kaladin will be a sole constant throughout a series that will change in pretty much every other way

[Anonymous No.10068670]

>>10068661
There actually isn't much slavery mentioned in prince of nothing. By humans, anyways.

[Anonymous No.10068675]

>>10068015
>slavery is considered something expected and natural by pol
No wonder the FBI and CIA has all of you pol guys on a watch list. If it was up to you guys you would go back to the days of enslavement.

[Anonymous No.10068691]

>>10068675
We are returning to slavery. It's called post-scarcity. Spartans had it, we want it

[Anonymous No.10068692]

>>10068505
Dude chill. We recommend him to people that ask for anime in prose form. Everyone here that read him likes him. No need to spam that shit.

[Anonymous No.10068693]

>>10068505
please RESPOND

[Anonymous No.10068696]

>>10068692
Spam? It's the first time I've even seen that name posted here and it's because I posted it because I found his name in some recs

[Anonymous No.10068720]

>>10068015
Gene Wolfe's Soldier series

[Anonymous No.10068725]

>>10063218
I have read the first few novels but "Slave Girl of Gor" made me throw in the towel.

[Anonymous No.10068731]

>>10068691
>We are returning to slavery
We never left. It's just that people are wageslaves and debtslaves now. Willing slaves so to speak, unless you are truly educated (ever wonder why high paying jobs don't hire unless you have some high-end degree? Because high-end degrees means high end student debt. They don't want someone making 100k a year who can spend all of that how they wish. They don't want you to have financial and emotional happiness.)

A lot of medieval cultures didn't condone slavery. And you think wanting freedom is a modern phenomenon? Look at Moses in the bible and his "let my people go speech.
Thank you for letting me know that the Danish are pol-supporting, slave mongering people.

You want slaves? Empress by Miller, Red Rising, Inheritance trilogy by Jemisin, Lightbringer trilogy, Black Jewels Trilogy.

[Anonymous No.10068737]

>>10068696
Check the archive for "anime in prose".

[Anonymous No.10068738]

>>10068737
I'm not gonna look through a thousand sanderson posts

[Anonymous No.10068744]

>>10068731
>Thank you for letting me know that the Danish are pol-supporting, slave mongering people.
I never said I supported that viewpoit fami. But yes denmark is very /pol/. I don't define myself by my country.

[Anonymous No.10068746]

>>10068744
Give back my fucking flag you thieving assholes

[Anonymous No.10068748]

>>10068746
What?

[Anonymous No.10068753]

>>10068748
Your fucking flag, you god damn fucking assholes stole it from us, it was god given, it fell on MY land, and you fucking scumbags stole it

[Anonymous No.10068765]

>>10068753
E-estonia?

[Anonymous No.10068801]

>>10068675
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.10068815]

>>10068753
Tere. Jäta selline lapsik meemitamine /int/i palun. Keda kotib see verine rist.
Ütle parem, kas sa Leo Kunnase Gort Ashrin raamatuid oled lugenud? Minu arust parim militaarulme mis siit kohati liiga uhkest riigist sigitunud on.
Või mis sff autoreid siit veel sa heaks pead? Pole mõningaid aastaid Eesti keeles lugenud. Indrek Hargla või? Täheaeg ulmeantoloogia suutis omal ajal huvi hoida.

[Anonymous No.10068835]

>>10066042
Just write your book with horses, then do a search/reaplace and substitute "dinsosaur" for each "horse". And substitute "savegely ripping flesh" for "grazing". Done.

"He looked tenderly at his trusty old savagely ripping flesh dinosaur."

[Anonymous No.10068847]

>>10061561
The unincorporated man

[Anonymous No.10068861]

>>10060034
>write like sanderson
>yfw this anon doesn't mean style but pacing

It takes decades to get published, so long as you're spending the entire time trying to improve you'll make it.

Jk rowling was shit scribbling for almost 20 years before she became a billionaire.

[Anonymous No.10068882]

>>10068815
Ausalt öeldes ma ei loe ültse eesti autoreid, ei ole isegi kursis mida nad kirjutavad, ja peale selle, et nii vähe on eestis scifi/fantasy kirjanikke, meeldib mulle rohkem ingliskeelseid raamatuid lugeda, sõnavara on rohkem arusaadav ja meelepärane, kui võib nii öelda.

Mis juhtub kui inimene harva suhtled IRL ja ainult postitab ingliskeelsetes foorumites või jututubades?

Nii et, ma ei oska sulle midagi soovitada, mida keegi sulle siit ei soovitaks.

[Anonymous No.10068892]

>>10068815
Also forgot in reply: Never even heard of the author or the books in the pic.
Are they any good, what's the main theme?

[Anonymous No.10068938]

>>10068801
No. Just aware.

[Anonymous No.10068978]

>>10068882
Ka mina pole eesti keeles ammu lugenud, aga koolipõlves kohalikus raamatukogus ikka sirvisin ulmet ja fantastikat.

>>10068892
The author is a lieutenant colonel in reserve of the Estonian Defense Forces, so the military and strategic part of this military sf is spot on. I really enjoyed the books.
The main character is a cloned soldier in a human military about a thousand years in the future, with flashbacks showing his childhood and 'spartan' military training starting at an early age. The army is composed of clones as to not force the civilian populations go through the horrors of war. The soldiers however, having no rights save for their individuality, are forced to relive and learn from the history of human warfare through immersive simulations (kind of like in Hyperion). But they start with Greek phalanxes as children, going through history to WW2 in their early teens, and to the conflicts of the future and with other space-faring races as they age. After the training the novel shows his service in the wars fought with other alien races. The main character is the 8th of his name (I think), his original being a soldier in the Estonian War for Independence, with the mc being an artillery forward observer for the space marines. Even though I like Starship Troopers, I think that Kunnas has written a better description of marines dropping from orbit to secure a spearhead, and the organization of a future army, probably because he has had real experience in Iraq and his modern military education, including the US NDU in Norfolk.

The Last War mentioned on the covers is the last war between different factions of humans that is fought during the course of the trilogy, being the very thing this ordering of society was constructed to avoid.. Which takes place after several wars with different alien factions, who themselves are interestingly portrayed. It has interesting ideas, like that an alliance between several space-faring races can only excel if the belligerents have different preferences as to planet types, with one preferring Earth-like planets, the other Venusian worlds and so on.
It also has some interesting things a future space-marine force might have, such as a field-bordello.

Sadly, it hasn't gotten picked up for translation.

[Anonymous No.10068981]

>>10068978
Ah and the Estonian word Kosmosemerejalaväelane doesn't quite have the ring as Space Marine.

[Anonymous No.10069010]

>>10068978
>Sadly, it hasn't gotten picked up for translation.
Then why are you shilling poetic about it on an english embroidery weaving Chinese fingertrap smoke signal forum? No one here can read it.

[Anonymous No.10069027]

>>10069010
Little known fact: Estonians are more autistic than Finngolians but they're too drunk for us to notice.

[Anonymous No.10069057]

>>10069027
I think you got that backwards, finns are more autistic and estonians are more drunk
t. been drunk since 10am when the stores opened

[Anonymous No.10069094]

>>10069010
There's at least one other Estonian here (^;

[Anonymous No.10069098]

>>10069057
Good lad. Romanian here I just assumed Baltics are all autistic.

[Anonymous No.10069163]

> female author
Dropped.

[Anonymous No.10069167]

>>10069163
>Ever even picking up something written by a womameme

[Anonymous No.10069183]

>>10069167
excuse me??!?

[Anonymous No.10069191]

>>10069183
That book is shit, the story might be good but the prose and the way it was delivered? Complete shit

[Anonymous No.10069194]

>>10069163
>>10069167

You're going to have a great year in middle school!

[Anonymous No.10069201]

>>10069163
Way to reinforce your own preconceptions anon :3

[Anonymous No.10069228]

>>10064296
top notch video m8

[Anonymous No.10069258]

>>10069191
>the story is less important than the prose
only on /lit/

[Anonymous No.10069278]

>>10069191
b-but muh footnotes

[Anonymous No.10069306]

>>10069258
He didn't say that
Personally i think story is more important but a book with shit prose is still shit.

[Anonymous No.10069338]

I'm looking for some quintessential pre-1960s fantasy literature?
What should I look at beyond these:
Conan by Robert E. Howard (and a number of his other works, Solomon Kane etc.)
Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien (
Gormenghast by Mervyn Peake
The Once and Future King by T. H. White

What else would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.10069405]

>>10069338
Lost World by Doyle.

[Anonymous No.10069430]

>>10069306
Pretty much. A movie could have a good script, but dogshit actors or cinematography can ruin it.

[Anonymous No.10069549]

>>10069258
>>the story is less important than the prose
I never said that
I said the book was shit regardless of the decent enough plot it had

[Anonymous No.10069580]

>>10068978
>It has interesting ideas, like that an alliance between several space-faring races can only excel if the belligerents have different preferences as to planet types, with one preferring Earth-like planets, the other Venusian worlds and so on.

Yeah that's the problem I find with most alien focused scifi shit, if they have the means to get here, they most definitely have the means to destroy us and consume our planet for its resources, there will literally never be any war between us and some aliens, because they would wipe us out extremely quickly, if all they wanted was the resources.
And there's no reason to assume they would want to be buddies since we are so undeveloped in science compared to them.

[Anonymous No.10069730]

Fresh off the printer
>>10069724
>>10069724
>>10069724