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post yfw you realised that the "stately" in "stately, plump buck mulligan" is an adverb

>> No.10048747

no it's not

>> No.10048755

>>10048652
It's an adjectively.

>> No.10048800

hol yfreakin' crap

>> No.10048869
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>>10048747
>>10048755
>>10048800

>> No.10050068

bump

>> No.10051394

>>10048652
what did you think it was?

>> No.10051498

bump
1!!

>> No.10051590

>>10048652
It's an adjective that looks like an adverb.

>> No.10051603

>>10051590
Why not simply both?

>> No.10052072

>>10051603
stfu

>> No.10052106

>>10048652
thats how i always read it, what did you read it as?

>> No.10052128

ummm, no? the entire narrative is aimed at a girl named Stately, which is the irish XX century equivalent of Stacey

>> No.10052701

bump

>> No.10052722

>>10048652
Wait, am I grammatically retarded or can the word be read as both an adverb and an adjective?

>> No.10052774

>>10052701
bump!

>> No.10053323

>>10052774
thanks

>> No.10053330

>>10052722
yes which is the point

>> No.10053405

>>10052722
>>10053330
Erm, no. It's an adjective *only*. Where's the adverb's verb?

Fucking Americans and adverbs, I swear to god.

>> No.10053428

>>10052722
>>10053330
no. look it up

>> No.10053431

>>10048652
If he had meant
>stately, plump buck mulligan
then that's what he would have written.

>> No.10053435

>>10053405
if it was an adverb the verb would have been 'came'

>> No.10053444

>>10053435
But there isn't a verb, so it isn't an adverb; nor can ever be one, if there were.

> statelyily

>> No.10053453

>>10053444
>came isn't a verb

>> No.10053465

>>10048652
>>10053444
You're missing the important thing to realize which is actually that "plump" here is a verb

>> No.10053469

>I thought the l at the top of was an i and that it was "I stately, plump buck mulligan"

>> No.10053477

>>10053453
I never said that. Learn to read, son.

>>10053465
Not here it isn't. Explain the comma.

>> No.10053479

plump is the verb you retards. He is sitting down unhurried, he is plumping down stately

>> No.10053488

>>10053477
it's imperative

>> No.10053490

>>10053477
You implied it by saying that there's no verb in a sentence that contains the word 'came'.

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>>10053490
> would have been

I said there is no verb in *that* sentence, not the hypothetical one you're blathering about.

>>10053488
Still. Adverbs are not separated from their verbs, imperative or not, by commas.

>> No.10053515

>>10053512
no, the COMMA is imperative, you son of a period

>> No.10053550

>>10053512
>hypothetical
It's not you fucking pleb.It's in it. If this autism was all a reaction to me using the word 'would' loosely (obviously 'came' is the verb of the sentence regardless of whether stately is an adverb, just not the verb of the adverb) go fuck yourself.

>> No.10053561

hold on guys, ill email him real quick and ask

>> No.10053568
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>>10053550
> It's in it
Where is the word 'came'? You need to control your anger, son.

>> No.10053575

I won't be settled in the issue either way until I see someone diagram the phrase.

>> No.10053578

>>10053561
good riddance faggot

no way an accomplished writer like him would actually respond to an email written by some random basement dweller

>> No.10053582

>>10053578
This better be bait

>> No.10053586

>>10053582
everybody knows buck mulligan isn't a writer.... you think?

>> No.10053589

>>10053568
Right after 'Mulligan'.

>> No.10053591

>>10048652
ITT: name adjectives that end with -ly

>homely

>> No.10053593

>>10053568
>STATELY, PLUMP BUCK MULLIGAN CAME FROM THE STAIRHEAD, bearing a bowl of lather on which a mirror and a razor lay crossed

Maybe you should read more

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>>10053589
>>10053593
Still not an adverb.

>> No.10053601

>>10053591
Miserly

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>>10053589
>>10053593
'Stately' is an adjective describing 'Mulligan'.

>> No.10053609

>>10048652
I have a similar one, but it’s not a question of adjective or adverb but a question of exact meaning:

>The great purges involving thousands of people, with public trials of traitors and thought-criminals who made abject confession of their crimes were afterwards executed
>abject

(i) complete
(ii) submissive
(iii) hopeless
(iv) despicable
These are the definitions of ’abject’ from a dictionary. which one is the meaning of abject in the above sentence?

>> No.10053610

>>10053405
CAME from the stairhead

>> No.10053612

>>10053609
All four of them. That's how words work.

>> No.10053616

>>10053606
>Buck
>Adjective
you're doing beautiful work as a troll memeposter here, anon.

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>>10053616

>> No.10053625

>>10053612
you sure?
Usually if one word has several characteristics, they write all of the characteristics in the definition, not separating them with 1., 2., 3., 4.

>> No.10053626

>>10053512
Obstinately, poster 10053512 continued to repeat his losing argument.

>> No.10053632

>>10053599
Joyce is an author known for his strict adherence to the formal laws of language!!

>> No.10053634

>>10053626
"Poster" isn't a verb though.

>> No.10053635

>>10053625
But if the writer meant a single definition, e.g. *only* 'submissive', he'd write only 'submissive'. But this writer wants to encapsulate the extra meanings, so he used 'abject'.

>> No.10053638

>>10053634
:-/

>> No.10053639

Adjectives that modify verbs are adverbs. If 'stately' is modifying 'came', it is an adverb. As in 'And that is when our new class president, stately, Jeremiah came through the auditorium door, holding a pair of gardener's shears and tracking wet, blackened mulch'.

>> No.10053641

>>10053621
but it's his fucking name in here. have you read the book? or are you still memeing?

>> No.10053642

>>10053632
> implying I've read his nonsense
Ah, the old I-can-bend-grammar-to-my-will-because-I-know-it-so-well argument.

A degenerate writer is a degenerate writer.

>> No.10053643

>>10053591
Quarterly. Orderly. Comely

>> No.10053646

>>10053641
> have you read the book?
God, no.

>> No.10053650

>>10053632
whatt he fuck

I thought this thread was about kipling

>> No.10053652

>>10053599
>if it was an adverb the verb would have been 'came'
>if

>> No.10053653

>>10053606
-> >>10053652

>> No.10053660

>>10053652
Right, let's summarise:

> 1. Joyce meant it as an adverb, not knowing that 'stately' is not, in fact, an adverb at all

> 2. Joyce meant it as an adjective, knowing full well that 'stately' is not an adverb

I'm going with the latter. Thanks.

>> No.10053663 [DELETED] 

I AM THAT I AM (That Is!)

(brainbryos will not understand this post)

>> No.10053665

>>10053660
As was, clearly, I. In case you were implying otherwise.

>> No.10053671

>>10053660
>3. Joyce meant it as an adverb, knowing full well that 'stately' is not an adverb
Checkmate atheists

>> No.10053673

>>10053601
Miserly is not an adjective
Miserable is

>> No.10053674

>ITT: nobody discusses the metaphorical meaning of the entire sentence, just grammar
kek.

>> No.10053675

>>10053671
Touché.

I know nothing about Joyce, hence my not knowing the sentence. Was he this much of a contrarian edgelord?

>> No.10053677

>>10053673
Actually nevermind, I'm stupid

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>>10053673
Hhmm.

>>10053677
Too late.

>> No.10053692

>>10053675
Absolutelily

>> No.10053693

>>10053674
>haha people talk about the grammar in a thread a that was about the grammar what plebs

>> No.10053810
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10053810

On occasion I get a certain urge, an urge I can't find the impetus behind but one that nonetheless I find I must satisfy to it's natural conclusion. I eat as much peanut butter and drink as much milk as I can in order to build up the gasses, then I jump in my car and head down to the bookstore to buy a 1922 scholarly edition of Ulysses. During the drive I'll start to feel the farts welling up, but i hold them in, knowing they'll be so much sweeter soon. Walking around the bookstore I can feel the eyes of the cute little shopkeep on me as I clench my ads cheeks together. Sometimes I'll smile at her and maybe even let a little squeaker out (She always blushes). When I get back home I draw all the curtains and get fully nude. The farts are mustering full force against my sphincter now, clamoring to get out. I'll let one or two slip out--i just can't help myself! I squat nude at the top of my stairs, bobbing up and down so that the carpet tickles my dangling ballsack, and meticulously rip out the telemachus episode, wadding each page up and carefully inserting them into my ballooning rectum. When every last page is inside me, quivering, face contorted in pleasure, I groan the words "Stately plump Buck Mulligan came from the stairhead," whereupon I unleash a flatulence the like on which is rarely seen, heard, or smelt anywhere. The pages of Telemachus flutter through the air like confetti as I have a mind-shattering orgasm, shooting cum from the stairhead all the way to the lower level. Often in my ecstasy I tumble all the way down to lay quivering at the bottom in the puddle, the pages raining down on me until I fall asleep, dreaming of how I'll do it all over again tomorrow with Nestor.

>> No.10053888

>>10053810
Finally: a prose stylist to rival Joyce himself

>> No.10053929

>>10048652
Does it really matter? If it's an adverb, he's descending the staircase in a stately manner. If it's an adjective, he happens to be a stately man.

Either way we know that stateliness is part of Mulligan's character.

>> No.10053953

>>10053929
Thank you.

>> No.10053981

>>10053929
Where is it ever stated that he is descending that staircase?

>> No.10053982
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>>10053810
>mfw when this is actually pretty well written

>> No.10054012

>>10048652
how the fuck
what
no

>> No.10054107

>>10053929
"came from the stairhead" != descending the staircase

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woah guys thanks for bumping my thread

>> No.10054264

>>10054205
>implying potter fanatics won't keep talking about it for their entire lives so that no child will be raised for 50 years without having been exposed to it.

>> No.10054505

>>10053810
Holy shit.

>> No.10054748

bump

>> No.10054843

>>10054748
:* :*

>> No.10055694

>>10053810
Beautiful.

>> No.10055796

>>10053641
baited hard

>> No.10056679

bump

>> No.10056765

>>10053810
lol

>> No.10056774

>>10054205
people of her age unfortunately will not be dying of old age

>> No.10057218

what le fuck who deleted my harry potter meme

>> No.10057631

bump

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>>10053810

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LOL!

>> No.10058649

>>10052128
kek

>> No.10059679

BUMP

>> No.10059693

>>10053981
>Stately, plump Buck Mulligan came from the stairhead, bearing a bowl of lather on which a mirror and a razor lay crossed.