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Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:05:50 2017 No.10041628 [Reply] [Original]

Did philosophy peak with this man?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:09:51 2017 No.10041639 >>10041628 Depends on what kind of philosophy you're referring to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:11:55 2017 No.10041645 >>10041628 Retard philosophy, yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:14:03 2017 No.10041651 File: 55 KB, 431x450, 75569-004-3B260631.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nietzsche bottomed it out.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:40:55 2017 No.10041734
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Pop philosophy started with this man. I am willing to claim that this man literally looked into the future, saw a bunch of pseuds reading Alain de Botton and smirking at their own presumed intelligence, and decided to jump on that train decades before it started. Now that his time has come, his ""deep"" """""ideas""""" are lauded and protected, and those wanting to know if concepts like the "death of god" are to be taken in a literal, historical, fictional, or otherwise sense are told that they are merely misinterpreting Neechee & that he probably meant something extremely specific and groundbreaking that is too deep for the common man to understand. He must have meant something, otherwise we would not be talking about him so much

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:42:29 2017 No.10041741 >>10041734 Every time I see an interpretation of Nietzsche, someone else says "you're interpreting it wrong". Does anyone actually know what he meant?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:44:05 2017 No.10041749 >>10041741 He meant that Christian morality is the best morality. Anyone who claims otherwise is simply misinterpreting the text.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:44:30 2017 No.10041752 >>10041741 i think some of what he's saying is fairly clear, but other topics there may be more room for misinterpretation

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:46:03 2017 No.10041758 >>10041628 He wasn't even really a philosopher. More of an unstructured essayist and aphorist.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:48:16 2017 No.10041766

>>10041741
Nietzsche isn't actually that vague, he leaves a decent amount of room for interpretation especially in his later works where he's off his rocker but it's not as bad as you'd think from the internet. Online it's just massively exacerbated by the amount of people that haven't read Nietzsche dropping their hot takes gathered from other people who haven't read Nietzsche.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:48:55 2017 No.10041770 >>10041628 yep

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:49:34 2017 No.10041774 >>10041749 this, nietzche was a christian

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:50:02 2017 No.10041776 >>10041770 nietzsche and marx

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:51:22 2017 No.10041779 >>10041628 >Behold, I Zarathustra am the prophet of the overman, he who will reject all values but those he creates for himself >but first, here's a 350 page book of values that the overman should posses he was a hack

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:58:04 2017 No.10041802 >>10041758 lel fuck off, he spoke about knowledge, morality, politics occasionally, esthetics and metaphysics when he talks about free will. what more do you need for someone to be a philosopher

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:58:22 2017 No.10041804

>>10041779
When Zarathustra had spoken these words, he paused, like one who had not said his last word; and long did he balance the staff doubtfully in his hand. At last he spake thus—and his voice had changed:
I now go alone, my disciples! Ye also now go away, and alone! So will I have it.
Verily, I advise you: depart from me, and guard yourselves against Zarathustra! And better still: be ashamed of him! Perhaps he hath deceived you.
The man of knowledge must be able not only to love his enemies, but also to hate his friends.
One requiteth a teacher badly if one remain merely a scholar. And why will ye not pluck at my wreath?
Ye venerate me; but what if your veneration should some day collapse? Take heed lest a statue crush you!
Ye say, ye believe in Zarathustra? But of what account is Zarathustra! Ye are my believers: but of what account are all believers!
Ye had not yet sought yourselves: then did ye find me. So do all believers; therefore all belief is of so little account.
Now do I bid you lose me and find yourselves; and only when ye have all denied me, will I return unto you.
Verily, with other eyes, my brethren, shall I then seek my lost ones; with another love shall I then love you.
And once again shall ye have become friends unto me, and children of one hope: then will I be with you for the third time, to celebrate the great noontide with you.
And it is the great noontide, when man is in the middle of his course between animal and Superman, and celebrateth his advance to the evening as his highest hope: for it is the advance to a new morning.
At such time will the down-goer bless himself, that he should be an over-goer; and the sun of his knowledge will be at noontide.
“DEAD ARE ALL THE GODS: NOW DO WE DESIRE THE SUPERMAN TO LIVE.”—Let this be our final will at the great noontide!—
Thus spake Zarathustra.

- Book 1, Ch. XXII

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 19:58:25 2017 No.10041805 >>10041749 >>10041774 lmao

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:24:05 2017 No.10041876

>>10041779
those were his values, which he created for himself in an effort to overcome HIMSELF

if you want to overcome youll most likely have some crossover with his values, no pressure though. Hes not threatening you for justification like some other value systems, hes telling you this is what joy looks like, and that needs no justification.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:32:25 2017 No.10041902 File: 104 KB, 898x893, tw7r69L0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10041628 No but it did with this one

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:34:36 2017 No.10041916 >>10041741 I have a question about that. I saw an article recently that said "White supremeacists love Nietzsche, but Nietzsche would hate white supremacists". Is that true?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:45:05 2017 No.10041945 >>10041779 He wasn't an individualist in the way you are presenting it, fag

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:46:09 2017 No.10041950 >>10041916 No, Nietzsche was not a SJW. If he would pass negative judgements on their movements, it would be for nuanced reasons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 20:50:15 2017 No.10041962 File: 249 KB, 248x459, 1500856793835.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10041902 No but it did with this one

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 02:59:49 2017 No.10042972 >>10041628 How could it have? I'm alive now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 03:22:37 2017 No.10043010 >>10041749 unironically this nietzsche's whole work is a reductio ad absurdum of post-enlightenment materialistic atheism, only brainlets read him as a critic of classical philosophy

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 05:27:37 2017 No.10043365 File: 7 KB, 141x185, 1505262273967.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10041950 >if you don't like white supremacists, you're an sjw

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 05:29:06 2017 No.10043375 >>10041741 He was advocating nihilism

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 05:34:59 2017 No.10043400 >>10041734 decent pasta potential

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 07:36:34 2017 No.10043720 File: 96 KB, 720x683, nietzsche.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10043375

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 07:38:21 2017 No.10043724 File: 990 KB, 737x1768, PeirceStandingFistOnHip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10041628 Pretty much with this one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 09:42:13 2017 No.10044045 >>10043720 That anon was interpreting it wrong

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 09:43:03 2017 No.10044048 >>10043720 >nietzsche caring about human existence lul

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 09:44:30 2017 No.10044053 Is the Kaufman translations the best

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 12:56:55 2017 No.10044651 File: 7 KB, 194x259, 2Q==.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10041628

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 19:05:20 2017 No.10046134 >>10041902 no it peaked with Alan Watts

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 19:49:06 2017 No.10046294 >>10041902 there are many peaks on the moral landscape though

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 19:53:24 2017 No.10046306 >>10041916 >Nietzsche would It's depressing...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 22:56:07 2017 No.10046911 My thread gets purged but this piece of shit flourishes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 22:58:15 2017 No.10046920 >>10046134 His brother David was always better

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 23:37:21 2017 No.10047054 >>10041628 Philosophy started with that man.

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 23:46:32 2017 No.10047082

>>10041628
>>10047054

I genuinely cannot which statement is more stupid, each one has achieved its own unique vanishing point or event horizon of retardation. It's like trying to figure out what is more tremendous, nothing or infinity, the alpha or the omega, such are the two extremes of human stupidity currently in maximum dissolution right here in this very thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:08:33 2017 No.10047125 >>10041749 being this wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:11:15 2017 No.10047130 I think baudrillard will widely be seen as the GOAT philosopher within ten years (which will feel like 100).

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:16:08 2017 No.10047139
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ITT: huuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrurrururrrrrrrrrrrrrriamthegreatesthuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrr|rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>>10041741
>does anyone know what he meant
LITERALLY ABOUT WHAT? What is it with people wanting to summarise a lifetime of thought and communication with a fucking soundbyte that is small enough to cram into a Twitter post? Great thinkers liked to THINK, not provide a 40-character message that will act as the end of conversation.

Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:18:48 2017 No.10047149
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>>10041741
This mix up is the fault of the left, though there are some ambiguous messages. For example, "god is dead" was a good, simple mantra for jewish leftists trying undermine white Christian society. Also, when you talk bring up Nietzsche and jews, the jews you're arguing with will mention "ressentiment." But Nietzsche actually referred to jews as the main group guilty of it. The understanding of Nietzsche has been tainted by the jewish left so people get confused.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:22:06 2017 No.10047157 >>10047149 Daily reminder that explaining away all issues with ((((((Jews))))))) is intellectual laziness of the highest calibre.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 00:25:58 2017 No.10047168 >>10047157 Quite the opposite, blattberg. Nietzsche had a very strong grasp of how jews were the root of the problem as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 20 10:21:51 2017 No.10048452 Op you need to read my diary desu

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