/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.10017519]

Immersion Killers Edition.
>what is the last sff book you read that killed your immersion?
>what, iyho does an author have to do to kill your immersion of a sff book?
>what are some sff books you read where an author kills immersion by trying too hard to be a literati, in the end killing both prose and story?

>/SFFG/ Recommendations:
FANTASY
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[Anonymous No.10017546]

First for dark elves are born sluts.

[Anonymous No.10017557]

>>10017519
Start with the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.10017566]

Remove Dunyain from the premises

[Anonymous No.10017620]

I have been searching for good military-scifi for a while now, got sick and tired of Honor Harrington series as the Mary Sue-syndrome started getting worse and worse the more I read that I couldn't stand it anymore even for the sake of the combat parts of the books.

I tried reading "Unbreakable" which first appeared cozy with their exoskeleton infantry and relatively conventional weapon tech level. But then the author got braindamage and threw in a ghost of the protagonist to give shitty narrative and to generally ruin a good book.

The Expanse is top-notch scifi but it's pretty limited in space combat and more on Holten's shenanigans.

There was also this book series called "The Starfishers" but the story jumps both in location, characters and time. It's a frustrating clusterfuck of a read that pisses me off because the author clearly doesn't know what the absolutely fuck he should focus on.

I've read all Ciaphas Cain books, really liked the black humour and tongue-in-cheek writing of the character. I could appreciate more along that alley.

[Anonymous No.10017673]

>>10017546
What fantasy books even feature dark elves besides D&D novels? And of those the dragonlance legends series is the only one to get any praise, does that have any?

[Anonymous No.10017711]

>>10017673
Malazan technically. And they're boring as shit.

[Anonymous No.10017720]

>>10017711
Read that, and yeah they are.

[Anonymous No.10017752]

Which one first?
>I know starting with Crown Tower isn't technically right, but it is chronologically right order and it's written so that you can do so.

I'm new to nonfiction book reading; I've read all of Tolkien.

[Anonymous No.10017767]

>>10017752
I DNF'd two of these and haven't read the other

[Anonymous No.10017773]

>>10017752
Waking fire's non dragon safari povs suck, but the second book does them somewhat better. (By reducing the ship commander to almost non existence)

Traitors blade is campy fun three musketeers fantasy, but gets a bit repetitive in its plot structure.

Haven't read the prequel trilogy for the other one, so I can't comment.

[Anonymous No.10017796]

>>10017620
I see you're a Cain-fag.
You should really read Flasman, one of the main influences of Ciaphas Cain.
Very entertaining series, with an even bigger self centered bastard as a main character, that somehow always ends up as a hero.
Be warned though, it's not sci-fi, it takes place during the times of the British Empire.

[Anonymous No.10017811]

Well /lit/ has deterred me away from the memersons, I'm not gonna read gay sex or YA.
And everyone says Mark Lawrence Thorn books are "meh".
So there were only these few left.
Or Black Company, and other "unknown" series.

[Anonymous No.10017812]

>>10017811
>>10017767
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[Anonymous No.10017814]

>>10017673
Nonmen are the best dark elves.
They are fully GRI compliant.

[Anonymous No.10017817]

>>10017812 >>10017811

So pick one you like, from the general description I gave you, nerd.

[Anonymous No.10017824]

>>10017811
Gut feeling from the DNFer guy: if what the other person says about the sequel to Waking Fire then I'd go with that. I found a similar problem in that the other POVs really slowed my momentum in reading.

[Anonymous No.10017825]

>>10017811
>I'm not gonna read gay sex
Then fuck off. jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.10017830]

>>10017825
Most of us don't anon.

[Anonymous No.10017833]

>>10017825
I don't wanna read detailed sex over all.

[Anonymous No.10017840]

>>10017830
nice samefagging. this is the GRI gen
>>10017833
then say that

[Anonymous No.10017878]

>>10017840
>nice samefagging
This is my samefagging face :|

[Anonymous No.10017893]

What a letdown. The first book was top notch work and this one is just another history adventure pulp. It was a chore to read, i don't know should i even bother with the third.

[Anonymous No.10017897]

Almost every word in english has a metaphoric origin, but Pattern seems to only classify sentences explicitly codified as figures of speech as lies
What is the meaning behind that?

[Anonymous No.10017918]

Hard scifi about man being in space pondering existence please. I don't want alien races or galactic empires.

[Anonymous No.10017948]

>>10017918
>Hard scifi about man being in space pondering existence
I dozed off just reading this.

[Anonymous No.10017957]

Read the first 3 books of this recently.
Generic, but inoffensively so. Good light reading, doesn't really try too hard to be edgy or different and instead goes for some fun characterization and a lot of world building.
At the very least I don't regret reading them, I enjoyed it.

[Anonymous No.10017965]

fantasy with show-off linguistics?

[Anonymous No.10017998]

>>10017752
>I know starting with Crown Tower isn't technically right
You damn right it isn't correct. The reasons prequels are made is because the main series is successful. The prequels were made to compliment an existing knowledge of the world, and expanding the shenanigans of beloved characters. Reading that before revelations is like.. I can't even come up with a good analogy. That just shows how wrong it is.

Anthony Ryan likes to end his novels on abrupt cliffhangers. He is like a girl giving you head, and when you are about to nut, she gets up, dresses, and leaves. You end up with blue balls for two years until she returns. Jacking off doesn't help because for some reason only her throat makes you nut. He also has a bad habit of pure shit third books. Dragon safari 2 wasn't so bad, but it did end on cliffhangers, and he horrible at wrapping up stories....

Never read Traitor's Meme. For some reason I can't remember I didn't pick up the book years ago, and have it burnt into my memory to never do so.

[Anonymous No.10018004]

>>10017796
>tfw no brown supple qt Indian gf to plough and plunder on a nightly basis
Why live?

[Anonymous No.10018015]

>>10017796
That is a fun series and the british empire almost qualifies as fantasy fiction at this point anyway

[Anonymous No.10018027]

>>10017897
>Pattern with a capital P
Is this about witty Shalan? I never dug that deep into his "i need a secret from you meme". I just saw it as the price to pay to activate his Jutsu- i mean his power.

[Anonymous No.10018032]

>>10018027
have you read words of radiance?

[Anonymous No.10018037]

>>10017957
>author's name is AC (alternating current)
>cover has wrenches on it
>character's name is from a tree
It's steampunk isn't it?

[Anonymous No.10018038]

>>10017957
>go to a.c cobbles goodreads page
>He was born and raised in Tennessee but currently resides in Texas with his wife, her two children and his wife's dog.
no thanks

[Anonymous No.10018040]

>>10018038
Cloistered, wholesome christian southerners make good books.

[Anonymous No.10018048]

>>10018032
Yes I did. The same week it was released. You didn't state you were talking about our Lord and Savior Sanderson, so seeing you write "Pattern" as someone's(or something's) name and the "lie" i figured that is what you were talking about.

[Anonymous No.10018054]

>>10018037
No, it's fairly low key fantasy. Starts with the main character's village hiring a party of warrior to help them kill a Demon (a literal demon) that's been eating their livestock, continues from that. The author draws a little too heavily from Wheel of Time in some parts, and the latter half of the first book got a bit bogged down, but other than that it was enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.10018059]

>>10018038
>her two children and his wife's dog.
Damn. Nothing is truly his own.

>>10018040
He is a cuck. If you didn't get the gist of it.

[Anonymous No.10018066]

>>10018048
Right, well, Pattern has a tendency to refer to figures of speech and metaphors as lies, because they don't actually say what they mean. yet he seems to ignore that literally almost every single word in the English language is a metaphor onto it self, yet he doesn't give a shit unless it's explicitly a figure of speech

[Anonymous No.10018070]

>>10018059
>He is a cuck. If you didn't get the gist of it.
As are all good authors

[Anonymous No.10018072]

>>10018054
>it's fairly low key fantasy
>village hiring a party of warrior to help them kill a Demon cliche
>draws a little too heavily from Wheel of Time
>half of the first book got a bit bogged down
>Wheel of Time
You are not shilling this properly at all anon. I don't even want to read the blurb, much less the book.
How is the GRI APPROVAL?

[Anonymous No.10018078]

>>10018072
It has some. At one point in book 3 they get directions from a Dom and his gimp after interrupting them.

[Anonymous No.10018086]

>>10018054
> the part where they eventually get to the city, he sits around brewing beer for half the book, then runs away at the end.

I regret everything.

[Anonymous No.10018088]

>>10018086
Yeah that sucked. It hasn't gotten stuck in a rut like that again though.

[Anonymous No.10018110]

>>10018066
Are you talking about Earth's English, or Sanderson's English? Because Roshar (or w/e planet storms are on) isn't earth. You should read Sanderson's books like translations (the cosmere ones at least). That is why they don't say 'fucking' in the books. Storm / storming is something more reviled than fuck / fucking in their world. Just like every place on earth has a different cuss, Sanderson's worlds also have that.
Hell they don't even write in English, they write in symbols (and those symbols were translated for us, further proving that the works are a translation).

[Anonymous No.10018115]

>>10018110
>no swearing is definitely because they speak in a different language and not because the author is a cuck
im not convinced

[Anonymous No.10018125]

>>10018078
>have to read two books that are bogged down to get a glimpse of GRI (not even in action) in the third
You sealed your faith anon. Not touching.

[Anonymous No.10018126]

>>10018110
Roshar has the same etymological root as earth english as far as I can tell.

[Anonymous No.10018137]

>>10018110
Why are the medical terms latin if it's just an english translation?

[Anonymous No.10018145]

>>10018126
>The Stranger, greeks and Russian books have the same etymological root as earth english as far as I can tell when I read them
>what is a translation

[Anonymous No.10018150]

>>10018145
>The medical knowledge of the heralds (the past civilization) is in latin
>the current language is in english
>but it's just a translation

[Anonymous No.10018165]

>>10018137
>English doesn't have Latin words that we use everyday
>English isn't a bastard language stuffed full of sperms from multiple olden civilizations
>reaching this hard to disprove translations even after the books show that their writing isn't English

[Anonymous No.10018174]

>>10018165
Oh so the language on Roshar is, contrary to every language on earth, completely brand spanking new and arbitrary? There's no etymological, symbolical background for why words are like they are? Sounds like pretty unbelievable, shallow lore

[Anonymous No.10018175]

>refresh thread
>this is branderson general now

[Anonymous No.10018201]

>>10018174
It's. Not. Earth.
It's a fucking planet in a solar system with multiple habitable planets. If you want to say that the home world of the shards (epicentre of the shattering) was earth, then I would take that (seeing that it's canon that the shards made people out of memories that it had before).

The home planet probably spoke English (and Hoade probably speaks English too, seeing as it's him we are getting events from). When we go to the home planet we will probably get fucking etc, but now we deal with the translations.
Mormons are not opposed to cussing look at Scott Card, when Sanderson reaches homeworld he will let the profanities fly (his kids will be 25+ years old by then).

[Anonymous No.10018207]

>>10018201
>when Sanderson reaches homeworld he will let the profanities fly
lolno

[Anonymous No.10018247]

>>10018201
>It's. Not. Earth
But the humans are humans, right? how fucking alien and bizarre would they have to be to make language in a way that's 100% impossible on earth?

[Anonymous No.10018249]

>>10017998
Except the writer himself says you can start with Crown Tower, it's written so that you can.

[Anonymous No.10018267]

>>10018249
>writer says "buy my new series"

You don't say

[Anonymous No.10018281]

>>10018267
you realize fantasy writers are almost universally morally and ethically faultless?

[Anonymous No.10018296]

>>10018175
Have you ever shat in plate?

[Anonymous No.10018303]

>>10018267
>buy my new series =/= I would suggest that (you) buy/read the other series first, but if (you) so choose (you) can buy/read this one first.

[Anonymous No.10018316]

>>10018296
u airsig lowlanders :-DDD

[Anonymous No.10018326]

>>10018316
ur one of my fav cousins cousin

[Anonymous No.10018328]

I shit on most fantasy and sci fi books I read on sffg but I can actually separate myself from my cynicism and like almost everything I read, including sanderson

[Anonymous No.10018334]

>>10018326
You're alright too, gringo... I mean gancho

[Anonymous No.10018406]

*unshethes shardblade and burns iron*

I'm sick of this storming thread, by the Lord Ruler!

[Anonymous No.10018438]

>>10018406
For some reason I read that in oblivion guards voice and it fit fairly well

[Anonymous No.10018542]

What's the first thing that happens in your novel?

[Anonymous No.10018550]

>>10018542
GRI

[Anonymous No.10018574]

>>10018542
I the chosen child meets his old but capable mentor

[Anonymous No.10018600]

>>10018542
The main character is getting jacked into the magic neural network his team has before sitting in front of a magic monitor guarding a shipyard transporting magic stuff.

[Anonymous No.10018634]

Is Eugenio Loboe the most /lit/ writer?

[Anonymous No.10018638]

>>10018542
The creation of the universe.

[Anonymous No.10018646]

>>10018542
Pronagotist kills his papa.

[Anonymous No.10018708]

>>10018542
Mason doing his job.

[Anonymous No.10018712]

Is the Once and Future King worth reading? I'm going through a fairly intense period in my life, and I need something to read in my down time that will entertain and motivate me; the Book of the New Sun did the trick for me, so I'm looking for something similarly engaging with similarly relatable male characters

[Anonymous No.10018727]

[Anonymous No.10018745]

Plz gib fantasy book with extremely large geographical setting.

[Anonymous No.10018790]

Idea for a fantasy series set in a post-apocalyptic backdrop. Set thousands of possibly years after an implied nuclear bombardment which ravaged and drastically changed the landscape, a monk from a religious order travels to a distant land braving mutated animals, "demons", and other Godforsaken unholy things. He later learns the messiah is really just a really intelligent computer that the leader of the community is keeping secret to make a power grab for themselves.

[Anonymous No.10018807]

>Book of the Long Sun series grips immediately and was an enjoyable read
>Book of the New Urth series grips immediately and is an enjoyable read
>Book of the Short sun series starts out shitty and does the worst of the "diary" narrative

Should I keep reading the books of the short sun? It feels pretty gross so far.

[Anonymous No.10018819]

>>10018790
Yeah this is what Bakker wrote.

[Anonymous No.10018846]

>>10017711
>>10017720
The Elder Warren of the Light Ain't free.The purity of the Tiste gotta be littered with the blood of Andii. Anomandaris Dragnipurake aka "Anomader Rake" is not my Ascendent. he is an impure Andii and probbaly a coward as well :DD Kurald Thyrllan and Osric not Kurald Galain and Mother Dark ok
praise father light

[Anonymous No.10018872]

Just read Dune... Was the ending absolute trash for anyone else? Do I need to read other books in the universe to appreciate the ending more?

I liked 95% of the book, but found the last 3-4 chapters to be ridiculous, and really non-immersive.

[Anonymous No.10018881]

>>10018542
The Mentalist talks to the main character about what the definition of insanity is while she is being strapped to a chair.

[Anonymous No.10018903]

>>10018727

[Anonymous No.10018927]

>>10018790
Do they drop a second nuke by chance, decades later?

[Anonymous No.10018933]

>>10018927
How many nukes does it take to remove Dunyain fucking shits?

[Anonymous No.10018940]

>>10018846
Is that one of those cunt light dragons? Those fire bastards?
Need a spurdo for him and we can put your text on it.

[Anonymous No.10018963]

>>10018927
What is that writing on the nuke? Arabic?

[Anonymous No.10019073]

>>10018963
Godless space hedonist.

[Anonymous No.10019089]

I can only read TLtL and SS so many times
I need this now Ada you stingy bitch

[Anonymous No.10019120]

>>10019089
>tfw modern life is so devoid of organic human interaction that you will forever question whether the people around you are advertisers / shills trying to get you to read shitty SF books

[Anonymous No.10019158]

Here is my SF+F bookcase, recommendations welcome.

1/2

[Anonymous No.10019159]

>>10019120
It's good anon, the shilling ceased because there no shills, only genuine fans realising their were alienating potential friends

[Anonymous No.10019169]

>>10019158

2/2

[Anonymous No.10019189]

>>10019159
>>10019089
The shilling ceased because I threatened to make wordart marcos.

[Anonymous No.10019209]

>>10019169

[Anonymous No.10019243]

>No question of payment?” Mraize asked, amused, removing a dart from his pocket. "Your mistress always asked.” “Brightlord,” Shallan said, “one does not haggle at the finest winehouses. Your payment will be accepted
Shallan really breaks my suspension of disbeliefp

[Anonymous No.10019254]

>>10017965
The Lord of the Rings

[Anonymous No.10019371]

>>10019189
>he actually believes this
You're so cute anon.

[Anonymous No.10019418]

What are some fantasy books where the hero and his friends play trading card ges to save the day?

[Anonymous No.10019443]

>>10019158
>>10019169
>all those meme books
>only dinosaur memes in sight

[Anonymous No.10019538]

>>10019189
>>10019159
The shilling only stopped because I'm one of those people like those seasonal waifu fags except with books. I like to read but won't finish 90% of books and of those books, only a few are good enough to get obsessed over. The instant I find a new good book I get immediately tired of shilling the previous one.

My current flavour of the month book is PKD's Palmer Eldritch book. The one before that was Ubik, the one before that one was Too Like the Memes, the one before that was probably Foundation, the one before that was probably Hyperion and so on.

Already have Will on hold (apparently it's actually in two libraries now according to the script)

>>10019089
The Stars my Destination and Jacques the Fatalist are pretty good.
>tfw Palmer is a confirmed gundamfag and Wolfefag

[Anonymous No.10019540]

>>10017673

Warhammer :^)

I see the Melniboneans as proto-Dark Elves so you could also count that I guess

[Anonymous No.10019542]

>>10018940
I tried

[Anonymous No.10019548]

>>10019443
>>10019209
Yes, I ought to read more new books, but the likes of Bakker, Sanderson, Mieville appear to be either doorstep-sized series spanning books, or humdrum stuff. I'd rather read short stories, or one-and-done novels.

[Anonymous No.10019566]

>>10019542
Why does that look like a videogame character?
That moon crescent pendant looks awfully familiar too.

[Anonymous No.10019581]

>>10019548
Library at mount char
The emperor's soul by Sanderson
Metro 2033
There. 3 modern books. Tell me how they are.

[Anonymous No.10019604]

>>10019158
>>10019169
>Alphabetized

[Anonymous No.10019607]

>>10019604
I sort my books by colour.

[Anonymous No.10019611]

Is Theodore Sturgeon worth reading or is he as shit as Vonnegut implies?
>Kilgore Trout

[Anonymous No.10019655]

>>10019611
He's a fun SF writer with a demotic voice, but he can but he can lay it on thickly with using orphans/minorities/disabled people for sentimental means More Than Human and The Dreaming Jewels are worth reading if you like earth stories with a supernatural/paranormal twist. He's up there with Ray Bradbury.

[Anonymous No.10019947]

What series involve gods or all-powerful beings prominently? I'm tired of grounded stories.

[Anonymous No.10019949]

Time to liven up the thread

[Anonymous No.10019968]

Been reading the Egyptian Book of the Dead and noticed a lot of similarities to the book of the long sun. Similar pantheon, sun travels across the sky in the same way, the narrative mirrors the BOTD in some places, there is even a "Litany of the Sun" in Egyptian literature. Is this common knowledge? Has this connection been discussed elsewhere? I am curious to know more.

[Anonymous No.10020317]

>>10019089
I'm about 85% of the way through TLTL and liking it overall but still a little underwhelmed -- it's quite good, I just got overhyped. It reminds me of The Golden Age, to which it compares unfavorably.

[Anonymous No.10020355]

>>10019968
Do I have to make one with a sun disc being hammered into the book of the dead ?

[Anonymous No.10020446]

>>10017519
>Immersion Killers Edition.
>>what is the last sff book you read that killed your immersion?

Good question.

For /sffg/, I'm going with Scalzi. All of Scalzi (even Old Man's War). Guy can't write dialogue for shit. Every character has the same jokey way of talking, and it's irritating as fuck.

[Anonymous No.10020453]

Locke Lamora is getting pretty good. The world-building is excellent and helps me get past the many, many cliches.

[Anonymous No.10020497]

>>10020446
You never read Locked in. Get out.

[Anonymous No.10020708]

>>10018542
MC is playing with other kids at a pond pretending to be a hero but everyone is freaked out by how seriously he takes it.

[Anonymous No.10020923]

lmao.

[Anonymous No.10021167]

>>10020923
It's true. Rothfuss is a homewrecker.. just like his bio says.

[Anonymous No.10021530]

>>10017752
>One hell of a good book.

[Anonymous No.10021626]

>>10017519
>what is the last sff book you read that killed your immersion?
Was a while ago, last example (and honestly one of few) I can come up with is Lifts chapters in Stormlight Archives.

[Anonymous No.10021683]

>>10018933
To be worldborn is to be a cuckold.

[Anonymous No.10021705]

>>10017519
>>what is the last sff book you read that killed your immersion?
The second Mistborn trilogy
The characters are constantly making unrealistic reddit-tier banter. I don't know why I gave sanderson another shot.

[Anonymous No.10021813]

>>10020923
>he cited Rothfuss as one of the reasons he was breaking up with me
Absolutely hilarious.

[Anonymous No.10021841]

>>10020923
but rothfuss IS good craft. Just like some 4chord music is good craft. Just like Harry Potter is good craft

[Anonymous No.10021847]

>>10020923
What makes Rothfus' writing bad?

[Anonymous No.10021853]

>>10021705
Shit, does it get as bad as the dialogue in Stormlight? I'm on the 1st book in the 1st trilogy and was surprised that the dialogue didn't make me wince every other page.

[Anonymous No.10022030]

>>10018542
Protagonist contemplates his life choices and the choices he's about to make

[Anonymous No.10022150]

>>10018542
>Kawaii elf takes a piss

I'm happy with it so far, except it's a isekai web novel

[Anonymous No.10022202]

>>10021705
why does Sanderson keep trying to write "witty" characters when he's so terrible at it?

[Anonymous No.10022241]

>>10017620
if you are into warhammer 40k, go to gaunt's ghost saga.
MArvelous

[Anonymous No.10022311]

I wish this were translated so I could recommend it here.
If any of you speak French, pick this up.

[Anonymous No.10022334]

>>10021683
>muh causality fags

Get fucked Dunyain scum

Fall of Ishual best day of my life.

[Anonymous No.10022458]

I read Tales of the Dying Earth last weekend, and it was everything I wanted in a fantasy story.
The first book didn't have the same prose style I expected from what little Vance I'd read previously, but I still liked it. A very Grimm's Fairy Tales feel.
The next three were fantastic. I think Vance is easily in my top 5 favorite authors.

[Anonymous No.10022547]

>>10019949

>the magicians

Is this decent? I remember watching a few episodes of the television adaption and thinking it was hilariously bad, but that may have been because of the terrible acting. It's basically a more "adult" version of Hairy Pooter, right?

[Anonymous No.10022557]

>>10022547

Nevermind, I just looked at some reviews and apparently everyone hates it.

[Anonymous No.10022572]

>>10022547
Literally three books of the most whiny fucking protagonist I have ever had to read.

[Anonymous No.10022589]

It's amazing how these 800 page+ tomes with 10 books in one serious manage to have weaker characters and plot than a 200 page standalone sff novel.

[Anonymous No.10022602]

>>10022589
How is that amazing? Writing a good character is hard, keeping that up for 8000 pages would be extremely difficult. Of course it's easier to do for fewer pages.

[Anonymous No.10022604]

>>10022589

You clearly haven't read Malazan

[Anonymous No.10022617]

>>10022547
Imagine if Harry Potter was even MORE of a little bitch, and instead of everyone praising him they shit on him instead, because he's a bitch. Also Ron is a gay masochistic pedophile.

[Anonymous No.10022662]

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[Anonymous No.10022678]

>>10017620
>>10017796
Try the "Starfist" series by Dan Cragg - a bit gung ho muhreens hooah! (Cragg is a former high ranking usmc non-com) but quite readable.
I also agree with the Flashman books, they are pretty brilliant. One of the favourite series of George RR Martin btw.

[Anonymous No.10022680]

>>10022602
I'd assume a longer work would have far more time to establish and flesh out characters compared to a shorter one.

>>10022604
I'll try it when I'm bored and have nothing else to read.

[Anonymous No.10022692]

>>10022662
>.txt
wew lad

[Anonymous No.10022721]

>>10021847
it's over the top
the cut-flower sound of a man waiting to die? give me a fucking break
and that's just the style

[Anonymous No.10022769]

What's the easiest Wolfe novel? I'm nearly done Devil in a Forest and its been smooth sailing aside from some archaic words.

[Anonymous No.10022806]

>>10022769
> its been smooth sailing aside from some archaic words
You are now ready for Shadow of the Torturer.

[Anonymous No.10022826]

>>10022458
I feel like the stories are kinda hit and miss. Cugel's Saga is great but the ones about Rialto and the other magicians did not draw me in at all.

[Anonymous No.10022835]

Is Gene Wolfe any good?

[Anonymous No.10022853]

>>10017673
Arthur Machen's elves are pretty dark.

[Anonymous No.10022856]

>>10022835
Godly

[Anonymous No.10022860]

>>10022241
This.
Comfy series in a bleak universe

[Anonymous No.10022861]

>>10022835
Does the queen piss in the lake?

[Anonymous No.10022915]

What fantasy/sci-fi is most like the Epic of Gilgamesh? Besides BotNS

[Anonymous No.10023120]

>>10022806
>Tfw you started with SotT and haven't had any problems

[Anonymous No.10023228]

>>10022915
Isn't Epic of Gilgamesh basically fantasy?

[Anonymous No.10023268]

>>10017519
Huh, I didn't even know we had a general for this. Well, here's a sci-fi + fantasy book I wrote recently. Take a look and see if you like it, anons. It's free to read.

>archive org/details/readsymbology
>smashwords com/books/view/747018

[Anonymous No.10023295]

hmm. do you have any works that are 10+ books with 500 or more pages each? I can't really get into a book if it doesn't take up a palpable amount of my life to get through it

[Anonymous No.10023301]

>>10023295
meant for >>10023268

[Anonymous No.10023326]

>>10023295
You know they have pills for that.

[Anonymous No.10023337]

>>10023326
For what specifically?

[Anonymous No.10023341]

>>10023301
Workin' on it, lad.

[Anonymous No.10023350]

>>10023326
Not being able to get it up for a story less than 10 books long.

[Anonymous No.10023355]

>>10023341
alright, I guess I can put this one on the list, right after the entirety of malazan and wheel of time

[Anonymous No.10023363]

>>10023350
oh really? what are they called?

[Anonymous No.10023372]

>>10023363
It's a bad joke in poor taste. I can't ... I can't keep going. pills

[Anonymous No.10023402]

>>10018542
A meathead jock turned NEET teaching himself how to be a ninja through an internet dojo subscription service gets hit by the mayor's car.

[Anonymous No.10023411]

>>10023120
>Shepard of knowledge
>can't even spell selling
Did the same.

[Anonymous No.10023427]

>>10022826
>the ones about Rialto and the other magicians did not draw me in at all
As a D&D wizardfag, the Rhialto stories had me in absolute stitches.

[Anonymous No.10023429]

>>10022835
Anon Gene Wolfe is /sffg/'s patron saint.

[Anonymous No.10023511]

>>10023402
does he wake up and find himself in the body of a real ninja girl?

[Anonymous No.10023527]

>>10023511
Alas, it isn't an isekai.
But that's exactly what I would go with if it was.

[Anonymous No.10023531]

What sort of tax policy do the Dunyain have?

[Anonymous No.10023534]

>>10023120
I don't really think these are very funny. I mean, it's not actually the person in the picture that wrote that, so it just takes away from their actual ridiculousness. Either way the "hehe, stupid christians" and "octogendered queerosexual" have pretty little overlap, so it doesn't even get the stereotypes right.

[Anonymous No.10023552]

>>10023527
>>10023511
Now here's an idea: guy gets hit by a japanese truck, wakes up as a cute girl in a magical fantasy world.
Decides that's fucking bullshit and goes on a quest to get his dick back.
Make it a metaphor for the modern man's emasculation by society.

[Anonymous No.10023588]

>>10023552
and along the way he learns to adapt to his new form, and makes the discovery that he really always felt like a girl inside. it could be a metaphor for the pressures society puts young men under to fit into a masculine archetype and deliver a lovely message of hope and acceptance for our transgendered brothers and sisters.

[Anonymous No.10023615]

>>10023588
That's kinda gay tbqhfamalam

[Anonymous No.10023635]

>>10023615
Your post is kinda betamale though. It's something you'd find on Art of Manliness or something. What is really happening to people is not emasculation, it's infantilization, you just see it as emasculation because you want to frame it in a perspective where it targets you specifically.

[Anonymous No.10023652]

>>10023531
Taxation at sword point to finance The Great Ordeal.

Remove Dunyain scum.

[Anonymous No.10023677]

>>10022769
The easiest to get into is probably The Sorcerer's House or even Pirate Freedom, though they aren't his best.

If you read Devil in a Forest, try The Fifth Head of Cerberus. If you handle that easily, you're ready for BotNS and the patrician's choice, Peace.

[Anonymous No.10023686]

>>10023552
>>10023588
You both can write your own and I'll read the one that isn't stupid.

[Anonymous No.10023700]

So why do you hate GRRM?

[Anonymous No.10023708]

>>10023700
He's popular, everything I've heard about ASOIAF sounds terrible, and having a whipping boy is cathartic.

[Anonymous No.10023729]

So, what makes good writing? What makes bad writing?

[Anonymous No.10023743]

>>10023588
Fuck you

[Anonymous No.10023777]

>>10023729
Good Writing: Cohesive narrative, consistent tone and atmosphere, originality, and understandable characters.

Bad Writing: Narration is all over the place, characters have forced traits that are gone after they've played their part, and all plot events are nonsensical.

[Anonymous No.10023781]

>>10023700
He glories in his success and jerks himself off too much, when he should be writing the damn books.

[Anonymous No.10023806]

>>10023700
I don't hate him. I shitpost about him because he'll never finish ASOIAF and because he's fat.

[Anonymous No.10023821]

>>10023677
Thanks. On a related note:
>Well, suppose you owned a cow, Mark, and had milked her every day for years, and had shoveled out her stall when you felt like it; then suppose you discovered that that cow was really a being more powerful and noble than you could comprehend, who had been allowing you, because of her generosity, to have the milk. How would you feel?
What the fuck did Wolfe mean by THIS?

[Anonymous No.10023860]

>>10023743
No

[Anonymous No.10023873]

>>10023552
>>10023588

Better idea
>Gigantic musclehead Chad built like that Icelandic guy who played the mountain in Game of Squatting in the Grass
>Out pounding a few brewskies with the broskies shooting pool
>Picks up qt alt/hipster gril, gets a bj, discovers she's actually just a guy and thought he knew
>Beats up femboy and kicks him out
>Later runs into crazy baglady who hisses and spits a curse at him in some weird guttural language
>She is femboy's great gandma
>Chads head spins and he blacks out
>Wakes up in a forest, gradually realizes he is now in the body of a cute girl (male)
>Short, weak, S T I C C build
>Everywhere he goes in medieval fantasy world people bully and chase him off or force themselves on him and make him wear girl clothes
>Ends up swept into an ebin quest to save Clichea and also get back to the real world where nobody can pound his tight bp against his will

[Anonymous No.10023876]

>>10023821
It's pretty clear. How would you feel if you suddenly realized that a goddess had been allowing you to grab her tits for years?

[Anonymous No.10023880]

>>10023876
Why did she make also shovel her shit? Was she getting off on it?

[Anonymous No.10023893]

>>10023873
great idea I support it

[Anonymous No.10023901]

>>10023873

Forgot the
>He ends up liking his new life but refusing to admit it in comically obvious fashion like pic related
Part

[Anonymous No.10023918]

>>10023880
Part of the deception.

[Anonymous No.10023934]

>>10023588
That's a guy... isn't it?

[Anonymous No.10023986]

>>10023934

[Anonymous No.10023993]

>>10023686
Well, shit. I was fully ready to make it as stupid as I could.
Guess I better get my crap together if I want my shitty Japanese parody to be High Lit enough for you guys.

[Anonymous No.10024001]

>>10023993
You'd better believe it.

[Anonymous No.10024108]

>>>/a/162255576
Is it true?

[Anonymous No.10024181]

Are there are books where the average citizen is a badass by necessity of the harshness of the setting? have to be humans.

[Anonymous No.10024321]

>>10023700
his tax policies are underdeveloped and not very realistic

[Anonymous No.10024430]

>Phillip K. Dick writes /lit/eral idolshit: The book
It's good but it isn't as trippy or as profound as his Ubik or The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch. This book focusses heavily on the relationship between people and every character gets pretty heavily developed and no one is as it seems. The worldbuilding is more heavy handed than the other books I have mentioned - the dystopia more obvious and heavy handed, all entrenched in the glamour and trappings of the bourgeoisie.

Amusingly, PKD gets one of the characters to explain very thoroughly exactly what happened to the main character rather than leaving you to come up with your own conclusion as in the other books I mentioned earlier on did. I'm guessing that he intended this book to have more mass appeal than the other ones and didn't want anyone to get too confused.

[Anonymous No.10024496]

rate my cart and recommend shit

[Anonymous No.10024517]

>>10024496
Dunsany is bretty good

[Anonymous No.10024538]

Here's an oldie: the first John Carter story, A Princess of Mars: At one point, John compares a component of a Zodangan vehicle he's riding to a speedometer. But if I remember correctly, the story supposedly was written down by John in the late 1800s, before the speedometer was invented.

[Anonymous No.10024545]

>>10024430
This was the book I was reading when I twigged that PKD had a turbulent love life. The women in there are shrews, are they are in everything else he wrote.

The book has an interesting relationship with Valis which I can't make much sense of, but its recurring 'black iron prison' motif is supposed to be anticipated by the police dystopia of FMT. In any case, one thing PKD does well here is the feeling of living in a security state.

[Anonymous No.10024576]

>>10017519
I want to check it out but I only read the first book from A Song of Ice and Fire and I barely remember it. Will I be lost?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18635622-a-knight-of-the-seven-kingdoms

[Anonymous No.10024592]

>>10024545
The similarities I picked up on which were close to his other books:
>PKD's recurring obsession with martian colonies
>how the forced labour camp felt a bit similar to the martian colonies in how people avoided them
>the loli with no good intentions (like PE in his other book)
>how PKD's neologisms seem to run into each other, I felt there was a bit in Flow where PKD had to consciously hold himself back from saying gluck
tfw runnning out of PKD

[Anonymous No.10024671]

>>10024592
The Martian stuff is interesting in PKD novels. The completely humdrum lives of Martian colonists pops up as a background detail fairly often, and in Martian Time-slip it still feels like a West coast town.

If I reread his novels I'd pay more attention to his 'tomb world' metaphor. It's in Martian Time-slip, DADOES, Dr Bloodmoney, and several others. And the recurring decay motif which is just about in everything.

[Anonymous No.10024929]

I'm constipated and I spend a huge chunk of my food budget on beans.

[Anonymous No.10024975]

>>10024538
Wouldn't locomotives have used speedometers?

[Anonymous No.10024976]

>>10024929
I am sure the end result will be a better show than Discovery.

[Anonymous No.10025048]

>>10024976
I'm just not gonna eat. I'm suspecting an obstructed bowel but I'm not going to a hospital until I'm sure I'm dying.

[Anonymous No.10025065]

>>10017620
Have you already read Starship Troopers?

[Anonymous No.10025086]

Should I read Free Live Free or There are Doors first? I know next to nothing about these two, I just grabbed them on the cheap.

[Anonymous No.10025090]

>>10025065
they said good

[Anonymous No.10025108]

>>10024929
Drink:
5 cups of water
2 tablespoons of castor oil
1 tablespoon of casscara liquid
2 laxative tablets for good measure
Stay close to your toilet for the day

[Anonymous No.10025122]

>>10017620
Starfishers is not Glen Cook's best work by a longshot. The first one is a disjointed milSF space opera, the second two change to being espionage with different characters, but the fourth book is a very good Das Boot style prequel about the crew of a stealth ship. He also wrote The Dragon Never Sleeps which is about legions of immortal UN peacekeepers in space and was pretty good IMO.

David Drake is the obvious suggestion if you haven't already tried his stuff.

I'm reading the Alexis Carew series right now and it's basically Hornblower in space, on book 3 right now and the character seems like far less of a Mary Sue than Honor Harringon was by book 3. (ie, she hasn't saved a planet of Space Menonites who then pledged undying loyalty to her)

I just finished the most recent Frontlines book by Marko Kloos and overall the series is good, nothing special but it's inoffensive and entertaining.

[Anonymous No.10025198]

>>10023700
He lost the plot

[Anonymous No.10025208]

>>10025086
There are doors is better then find Aramini's write up on it.

[Anonymous No.10025231]

>>10017620
Honor Harrington is no good. Read the original Aubrey-Maturin series. 10,000x better.

Try BV Larson's Undying Mercenaries for good bants and genre schlock.

[Anonymous No.10025235]

>>10024929
Ask your girl for a good pegging

[Anonymous No.10025284]

>>10018872
>Just read Dune... Was the ending absolute trash for anyone else? Do I need to read other books in the universe to appreciate the ending more?
Dune and Dune Messiah are basically parts of the same book with Dune Messiah being the last part. So yes, read the next one if nothing else.

[Anonymous No.10025319]

>>10023552
>>10023588
So I know you guys are just shitposting but I would actually love to read both of these, so please get writing.

[Anonymous No.10025343]

>>10017519
>what is the last sff book you read that killed your immersion?
Basicly slightly every "older" sci-fi book because their vision of the future isn't lining up with where our Future is actually going. For example: In Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep they do have flying cars which, while a bit far-fetched is alright, but then he imagines TV still as big Bulk TV-Sets with antennae.
The older the book the more likely it is that these issues arise. Hey we have Jetpacks, but also our Phones still have cords.
In case of DADOES in particular I'm kinda wondering, if they're at a point where they can just give every citizen a robot that is indistinguishable from a normal human (unless you know the specific test and they allow you to administer it) Why is there work at all? They could literally abolish any non-creative and non R&D job and give it to robutts.

[Anonymous No.10025347]

What's the Cowboy Bebop of books?

[Anonymous No.10025404]

>>10025343
>Why is there work at all?

Unions pushing a anti-automation agenda because JERBS, probably.

[Anonymous No.10025420]

Any good fantasy books about a character being lost in another world?

[Anonymous No.10025546]

Kellhaus finally meeting his father in Thousandfold Thought is probably the most boring and pretentious crap I've ever read that was meant to be a big moment. I very much doubt I will be continuing the series after I finish this book (which has been a slog to get through).

[Anonymous No.10025547]

>>10025048
Have you had a feel of your entire abdomen to check for any large masses?

And why aren't you eating? Is it because you feel sick or because you just don't want to make it worse?

How long have you had this constipation for?

[Anonymous No.10025590]

>>10025420
Magician by Raymond E Feist has a war between worlds waged through magical rifts and halfway through the book the protagonist is kidnapped by the invaders and taken back to their world as a slave. Unfortunately the rest of Feist's work doesn't really hold up that well.

[Anonymous No.10025592]

>>10024576
It's set 100 years before any of the events so no, you don't need to know anything from ASoIaF to follow it. But its crammed with name drops and world building that are more meaningful if you've read the main series.

[Anonymous No.10025598]

>>10025343
>Why is there work at all?
Because mostly the characters are too busy getting steamrolled by Phillip K. Dick's suffering to worry about work currently, unless being fired is part of their suffering.

>that moment in Three Stigmata when Barney's amazingly shit employer tries to get him to infect himself with a highly dangerous strain of epilepsy FOR AN ENTIRE FUCKING YEAR after firing him with the promise that he'll get his job back
Life sucks and then you die.

>>10024671
>And the recurring decay motif which is just about in everything
Life must suck to be a PKD character (well any of the ones I've read so far except for his short story ones). Just when you get your hands on something you can expect to lose it, dried out corpses happen all the time and you never really know what's real. And even if you are a super powerful being like Eldritch-sama you can expect to get endlessly trolled by the author.

PKD is amazingly creative at forcing all his characters into a personalised version of hell, but I'd have to say that the decay motif is probably the scariest one. To get your hands on something and then to lose. to give them hope and then to take it away has to be one of the ultimate psychological traumas you can inflict on your creations.

[Anonymous No.10025690]

But then the dread lights were halved, then halved yet again. Gasping, Eleäzaras glimpsed the giant Yalgrota, soot-blackened and blood-smeared, heaving Fanfarokar into the air by the throat. The asps flailed. Fist closed about a Chorae, the Thunyeri giant hammered the shaven skull into sopping ruin.

Sranchammer is the secret star of this series.

[Anonymous No.10025757]

>>10025690
That's the truth of it.

[Anonymous No.10026113]

Wow dead thread is dead.

[Anonymous No.10026120]

>>10026113
It's always dead hours round about now.

[Anonymous No.10026128]

>>10018542
Young man tormented by memories of his first war (a siege of his city) resorts to drinking to drown his disappointment in life during and after said war, and the loss of his "innocent youth" or something like that. He's also hateful regarding the mercenary thugs that are in control of his city with the blessing of the local lords.

[Anonymous No.10026140]

>>10019548
You could try Janny Wurts. To Ride Hell's Chasm or Sorcerer's Legacy if you want a stand-alone.

[Anonymous No.10026195]

>>10017814
Mu'miorn confirmed slut

[Anonymous No.10026227]

>>10018542
The traumatised protagonist believes that everyone on board his expedition vessel has killed themselves when he actually murdered them all, with the exception of his last victim who really did kill themself to spare the protagonist the pain of realisation.

Fast forward a thousand years: on the New World, the longest winter in living memory has caused a famine and the sixth man that month has been found frozen underneath a lake.

[Anonymous No.10026319]

>>10026227
GURM stop writing asoiaf fanfic andf0 finish your last two books.

[Anonymous No.10026406]

Will the Wizard Knight be as good as I remember?

[Anonymous No.10026574]

>>10025319
I'm such a sensitive soul, I don't know if I could handle being bullied if I posted my writing...

[Anonymous No.10026634]

>>10026574
are you >>10023552 ? cause that'd be kinda ironic. I feel the same tho

[Anonymous No.10026662]

>>10026574
I'm also interested in the premise.

[Anonymous No.10026807]

Are Herdazians an allegory for mexicans or middle easterners?

[Anonymous No.10026905]

>>10017673
Tad Williams Witchwood Crown
Feist

[Anonymous No.10026914]

>>10017752
he wrote crown tower first so don't worry abt the bull the other anon said about prequels

[Anonymous No.10027057]

>>10026807
Mexicans

[Anonymous No.10027136]

>>10026662
Damn it, now I actually have to write it.

[Anonymous No.10027371]

>>10027136
which one?

[Anonymous No.10027398]

Russian cover of Surface Detail.

[Anonymous No.10027447]

>>10022311
why the fuck isn't the translated i've heard great things for years.

[Anonymous No.10027458]

I wanna start reading some actual novels instead of just shitty chinese web novels.
So what's a novel with ideally zero romance, focus on the main character without having multiple PoVs, a more self contained story that doesn't effect the world at large, like no lotr tier plot where the world's at stake.
As well as some cool non-story breaking spoilers on it, I'd like an example of what happens in it, I think it's more fun to read with at least some minute spoilers so I know there's something to look forward to.
Please help.

[Anonymous No.10027799]

Thanks for memeing me into reading this shitty Gene Wolfe book, /sffg/. What garbage. I'm going back to Sanderson.

[Anonymous No.10027816]

>>10027799
ebin, simply ebin

[Anonymous No.10027839]

>>10017519
>golden haired girl raised at Convent to become assassin nun
Sounds pretty pulpy. Is this better than The Broken Empire? (Haven't read The Red Queen's War)

[Anonymous No.10027857]

>>10027839
It's literally a side story In the same universe

Can't imagine it's much better

[Anonymous No.10027989]

hey /sffg/, what defines an asspull when it comes to what magic can do?

My MC is supposed to have very general sight-related divination magic that they can only use a limited number of times and im woried that one of the uses is something they wouldn't even know is possible. Specifically, they figure out they can use it to see and interact with hyperspace despite only reading about hyperspace in sf novels

[Anonymous No.10027995]

>>10024576
Nah. Be prepared for maximum comfy adventure.

[Anonymous No.10028079]

>>10025235

Fun fact, buttplugs were actually invented as "anal dilators" to remedy constipation. Not entirely sure how well that would work desu

[Anonymous No.10028101]

Which science fiction books serve the purpose of introducing you to the genre as Lord of the Rings and Conan do for fantasy?

[Anonymous No.10028104]

>>10026914
>he wrote crown tower first
Are you retarded? he wrote The Crown Conspiracy first. Actually know what you are talking about before you spew shit from your mouth.

[Anonymous No.10028188]

>>10027371
The original one

[Anonymous No.10028199]

>>10028188
personal least favorite variation but ganbatte.

[Anonymous No.10028216]

>>10028101
Foundation

[Anonymous No.10028218]

>>10028101
Purely in terms of 'foundational' SF texts; for adventure and accessibility, an early Robert Heinlein book like Red Planet; for something Campbellian/Hard SF, Asimov's I Robot; for something dystopian, Huxley's Brave New World and Orwell's 1984; for sword and planet, Burroughs' A Princess Of Mars. For New Wave, Dick's Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep.

I'm pig ignorant of space opera but CJ Cherryh's Chanur books are popular around here.

[Anonymous No.10028277]

>>10027458
>focus on the main character without having multiple PoVs, a more self contained story that doesn't effect the world at large
Looks like you're looking for Sword & Sorcery novels. Sometimes there's romance in them, but they tick everything else you mentioned. I haven't read many S&S books but you could try To Ride Hell's Chasm: injured veteran becomes a suspect for kidnapping the princess and tries to clear his name and find out who's behind this and save the princess. There's another POV though, the commander of the royal guard. You find out later that the problem might be bigger than everyone thought, but the motivations of the characters (similarly to most S&S) remain in a smaller scope: save the girl, get revenge, clear your name instead of save the world etc, so if you're hesitant on this one, you should try some other sword and sorcery. Conan or the manga Berserk are well known examples of this sub-genre (well, Berserk's on a bigger scope these past few years but it's almost entirely still about Guts and his motivation, although there's focus on other stuff too.)

[Anonymous No.10028302]

Any books where characters use magic/science to solve problems in ways that are creative but also possible to predict by clever readers? You know, like in detective stories.
Honestly, detective story recommendations (that are still sf/f) are also welcome.

[Anonymous No.10028442]

>>10028302
Try Worm. It's about a girl who found out she can control bugs and tries to become a superhero, but between the powers and her creepy spidersilk body armor she's mistaken for a villain on sight. Honestly top tier power use

[Anonymous No.10028547]

>>10028302
The Caves of Steel
Altered Carbon
The City & The City
Chasm City

[Anonymous No.10028573]

>>10028442
Worm was good, had a few slumps, but was alright for being a webserial then the time skip was nothing but slumps until Crushed and the final arcs.

[Anonymous No.10028607]

Been reading some hollow earth/lost world novels lately mainly by Edgar Rice Burroughs and it got me thinking about how unexplored and mysterious Antartica and The Artic is.
Are there any novels like that? I know of At the mountains of madness but that's about it.

[Anonymous No.10028663]

Malazan:
So Withal says a cursed sword can only be destroyed by a weapon more nasty than it, and claims that there aren't any swords more nasty than the one the Crippled God had him make forcing him to use the blacksmiths' secret OTHER method of destroying a cursed sword. But what about Dragnipur? That was a pretty fucking evil sword. Would that have been able to destroy the Crippled God's sword?

[Anonymous No.10028673]

>>10027989
Just have the character figure out the power by having them stress test it if you can and the hyperspace usage can come from them trying to see what is in a black hole or void equivalent in your setting. The interacting part seems like an asspull however given how sight based divination is generally not very action based in most circumstances.

[Anonymous No.10028675]

>>10028573
Yeah, I feel like the pacing issues are almost inherent to the webserial format. Since the author's publishing it one chapter at a time, he doesn't have the privilege of an editor looking back over the whole work and suggesting changes. Once a chapter is up, the author just has to move on.

[Anonymous No.10028870]

>>10028188
Good luck, my dude.

[Anonymous No.10028888]

>>10028607
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Strange_Manuscript_Found_in_a_Copper_Cylinder

Pretty good read, but pulp adventure ain't my flavour.

[Anonymous No.10029173]

>>10028673
Okay, when I say hyperspace I should clarify that I mean the fourth dimension, not some space travel hyperloop or something.

the character gets a hint after the first time they harness the power that there are other directions to discover in besides just past and future.

Other than that there is no stress testing, because as I said there are a limited number of uses

[Anonymous No.10029265]

Are there any books that reject toxic masculinity?

[Anonymous No.10029283]

>>10029265
Why we should all squat by Womanmeme

[Anonymous No.10029287]

>>10029173
In that case the divination could give him an inherit knowledge about the vision he sees including things beyond human senses like non-visible light and hyperspace. Every time the character uses his divination he could gain a deeper understanding of how his divination correlates with the knowledge it gives and he could gain an obtuse sense of how to interact with things like hyperspace to bring about an effect but would need the divination power to properly use it or risk potentially fatal failure.

[Anonymous No.10029288]

>>10029265
Yes, but none of them are good.

[Anonymous No.10029296]

>>10029265
According to Vox Day, Chuck Tingle is the only one altright literature worth reading.

[Anonymous No.10029307]

>>10029287
dude, I have the plot planned out, I'm just deciding if I need more foreshadowing on the character figuring out in the heat of the moment, "hey, I'm trapped in an ordinary 3-dimensional room, but if I use my powers maybe I can see into the fourth dimension and use that to walk around the walls, like a stick-figure drawing stepping out of the page to escape a box"

[Anonymous No.10029327]

The Will to Battle is now in 4 overdrive libraries. Maybe it won't take too long to leak once it's published after all.

[Anonymous No.10029363]

>>10029307
That's a complete asspull since the character only perceived that dimension it wouldn't actually give him any power to actually phase through objects.

[Anonymous No.10029384]

>>10029307
You know, human mind would in all likelihood go insane if fed 4d data. Simply isn't build to process.

[Anonymous No.10029437]

>>10029363
fuck it, I'm doing it anyway. It's not like I can change the plot this late, and it's not like it violates the laws of the setting or comes out of nowhere.

If there's any doubt about how the mc does it, I have an ace in the hole what with their father having a

[Anonymous No.10029535]

>>10029437
Why even bother to ask for advice then, this isn't the critique thread anyway.

[Anonymous No.10029548]

>>10028079
One way to find out

[Anonymous No.10029560]

>>10029535
I just wanted to know if I could mitigate it with foreshadowing

[Anonymous No.10029571]

WHAT BOOK ARE WE ALL READING AT THE MOMENT
IS IT GOOD OR SHIT

[Anonymous No.10029649]

>>10029571
The Night Eternal, book 3 of the Strain trilogy. It's pretty good so far. I'm hoping it is as good as book 2, a real page turner. That sort of falls into science fiction because it's more biological than mystical evil powers.

[Anonymous No.10029656]

>>10029571

Neil Gaiman's Norse Mythology, its alright

[Anonymous No.10029671]

>>10029571
Just finished Lord of the Rings. It was absolutely excellent. I'm reading the appendices now, and while I commend the top tier autism, I'm not sure I'll read through all of it.

Next it'll be either
The Fifth Head of Cerberus,
The Dying Earth,
Warbreaker,
The Iliad,
Bear (yes that one),
or playing Samus Returns.

What would you recommend, /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.10029700]

For you kids excepting the release of the next Kingkiller Chronicles book, here's a video to keep you company:
https://youtu.be/arw4ei6HwgE

[Anonymous No.10029737]

>>10029671
Lord of the Rings is so good. I love that Witch King and Mouth of Sauron get a fair amount of exposure and really cool descriptions and all of the bad guys, really.

[Anonymous No.10029793]

>>10017620
read the forever war

[Anonymous No.10029815]

>>10029737
The Witch King was awesome. I felt like I was reading a metal album when he was being described. The tonal shift was a little jarring, but I got a little giddy every time I saw "and lo!" or "behold!"

I got the impression that the Mouth of Sauron was supposed to be a more major character at some point, given how much detail he was given. Then again, it seems like every aspect of the story has more going on behind the scenes in Tolkien's notes than is shown.

[Anonymous No.10029829]

Once upon a time there was a King that live in a great castle under ground. This king was the richest and wealthiest in all the land. He had many estates where he would throw lavish parties for his knights, lords and noble houses. However he was not a noble king, he lead campaigns of conquest and terror through foreign lands and treated its people as if they were dirt under his feet. Through his conquests the king met many noble houses that fear and respected him. But on a warm September night the king met a bewitching creature known as a Fairy. The king shot up in bed feeling it’s presence, “Who goes there!” he yelled. Guards stormed into the room carrying a torches and swords, ready to defend their king. “What is it?” the captain asked “what is wrong?”. “Nothing” said the king, “Nothing at all, t’was a bad dream is all”. The guards respectfully exited the room leaving the king allown with the fairy he managed to cup in his hands and keep out of sight from the guards. It was rather small in stature and had the body of a young woman. Its soft green glow illuminated the kings weathered hands, while leaving a sparkling trail as it floated magically through the air. “What is it you seek” said the king in aw, fairies are very rare even in central right now. Some say they carry luck and fortune others say they are filled with vial and trickery. The fairy responded in its soft voice “ you must change your ways if you would like to keep your thrown”. The king had to laugh to keep his anger in check, how could this fairly say that, its treason, its a death warrant. The king replied with a savage grin “I’d watch my tongue if I were you fairly, you happen to be talking to the king of Hessische, I should have you executed for those words…but since tonight I am feeling charitable I will let you speak” the fairy resumed where she left off, “your throne is in danger, men plot to take it from you if you do not change your ways and redeem yourself or your castle will become your prison”. The king laughed at the fairy and exclaimed “if you expect me to believe those words then you are mistaken, my throne is not jeopardised my people love me, i guess it is true what my counselors say natural beasts are natural liers”. The King was feeling merciful and decided to lock the fairy in a cage and give it to the guards to be sold in the markets the next day.

[Anonymous No.10029837]

Two days passed since the incident and the king held a grand feast in his royal dining hall deep within the earth. Soon his council, knights, nobles and all of court was there drinking and eating in luxury. He called a toast for all the men who he had lead across the country in pursuit of free living space for all Hessisches. This was the que, at once all guests got up and left, the guards doing nothing to stop them. The king did not see this, for he was the only one who drank.Eyes to the roof he only saw the rim of his goblet, and when he finished his cup the room was empty and the door barricaded and backfilled from the outside. To this day the king can be felt pounding his hands against the walls of his prison, when the earth shakes and buildings crumble it is due to one man's greed to rule the world.

[Anonymous No.10029839]

>>10029815
I don't quite remember, but I think The Mouth of Sauron wasn't in the theatrical release of Return of the King or his part was very short. I was remember being very disappointed until the extended versions came out.

He's one of the few minor characters that I really wish more of his past was revealed. Was he a town crier or something or a leader that talked a lot? Is he a fighter at all? Aragorn definitely got a sucker slice in on him.

[Anonymous No.10029884]

>>10029671
>Warbreaker
The best Sanderson book so far IMO.

[Anonymous No.10030222]

>>10029571
titus groan. its good. super comfy and pretty funny.

[Anonymous No.10030348]

>>10029839
So I just looked up the film's version of the Mouth of Sauron. I have no idea what they were thinking, desu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To_RJ_mPNqM

[Anonymous No.10030428]

Maybe the next thread can be dedicated to Jerry Pournelle

Jerry Pournelle, Science Fiction Novelist and Computer Guide, Dies at 84
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/15/obituaries/jerry-pournelle-science-fiction-novelist-and-computer-guide-dies-at-84.html

[Anonymous No.10030853]

>>10029560
>>10029437
>>10029307
>>10029173
>>10027989
>ask for help
>people help him
>he spits in people's faces and basically tells them to fuck off while wasting our precious posts space
And you guys still don't understand why we should chase these ungrateful intellectual thieves.

[Anonymous No.10030908]

New Dead
>>10030904
>>10030904
>>10030904

[Anonymous No.10031210]

>>10028888
Thanks! This is exactly what I'm looking for. Personally I love Pulp Fiction.