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/lit/ - Literature

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Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:44:54 2016 No.8793124 [Reply] [Original]

Share your literary contrarian opinions

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:50:18 2016 No.8793148 The way you write is by large unimportant.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:52:48 2016 No.8793156 >>8793124 'Literary Fiction' is, by and large, nothing but dull slice-of-life romcom drama bullshit

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:58:54 2016 No.8793175 All literature is really about fudge

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:03:45 2016 No.8793192 The Lord of the Rings is the greatest work of literature of the 20th Century. It is not, however, a novel.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:09:23 2016 No.8793213 >>8793156 yeah, but it can be really cozy. :/

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:13:25 2016 No.8793221 >>8793124 'Literature' is merely a marketing term for commodified text content.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:33:00 2016 No.8793417 there are no good proust quotes

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:35:27 2016 No.8793425

all literature and art and all that stuff that's hard to define really only is expression of the elite. if you're not elite you can't ever create art or literature or anything that will be a part of high culture. there is no training necessary for the real thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:50:42 2016 No.8793460 >>8793425 John Kennedy Toole.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:54:05 2016 No.8793464 Milan Kundera is overrated by pseuds and underrated by patricians.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:56:41 2016 No.8793475 >>8793124 The experience of the sublime may be real, but works that inherently are are not real. Art has an expiration date and everything it uses is fading, some quicker than others, into irrelevance and then incomprehension.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:02:12 2016 No.8793486 >>8793124 Bret Easton Ellis is the best writer of the end of the 20th century. The sour critical opinion of him from the previous generation has poisoned the well for the current one, but Glamorama is a towering masterpiece.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:05:20 2016 No.8793497 >>8793124 DFW has discernible talent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:31:49 2016 No.8793562 >>8793497 >had

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:33:02 2016 No.8793824 >>8793497 >>8793497 >>8793497 this

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:42:11 2016 No.8793843

Orwell was a terrible writer and is only known because the CIA took his last two books for use as anti-communist propaganda.

1984 was well thought out, but not particularly special as a piece of art. Animal Farm was a product of the time but is, again, was not much of a product of literary talent.

The rest of his writing, outside of their journalistic value, was utter shite, with the exception of Coming Up for Air, which was somewhat readable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 12:31:51 2016 No.8794987 Joyce is a great writer but a horrible novelist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 12:34:26 2016 No.8794995 >>8794987 this. the only issue is if he'd have became a poet, he'd have had harder competition still FW is the best epic poem in 200 years

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 12:38:44 2016 No.8795015 >>8794987 That's an actually interesting opinion.

>>	Anonymoos Sat Dec 3 12:42:57 2016 No.8795027 >>8793192 >not a novel Then what is it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 12:43:08 2016 No.8795029 >>8793497 Infinite Jest is enjoyable to read, but not a good book

>>	Anonymoos Sat Dec 3 12:43:59 2016 No.8795033 I love writing genre fiction but got damn hate reading it

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 12:57:32 2016 No.8795082 >>8793175 Holy...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 12:58:35 2016 No.8795090 >>8795029 Shutup!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:00:42 2016 No.8795097 >>8794987 >>8795029 I wish my opinions could be original.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:01:50 2016 No.8795099 File: 98 KB, 500x375, 211846037_925303bf23.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8793192 never heard that one before p contrarian tho anyways, here's mine: pic related was a genius

>>	Anonymoos Sat Dec 3 13:03:15 2016 No.8795106 pic related is one my GOAT reads

>>	Anonymoos Sat Dec 3 13:05:11 2016 No.8795115 File: 7 KB, 102x160, q.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] pic related is one my GOAT reads

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:09:16 2016 No.8795135 >>8794995 I'm not too big in his poetry either. I think his prose is great, but he sucks at structuring stories, whether it be his short stories or novels.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:13:34 2016 No.8795153 I hated wuthering heights. The prose was well-done for the most part, but fashioned into a massive piece of shit as a novel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:37:56 2016 No.8795241 >>8793124 not much contrary on /lit/ but pretty contrarian IRL: brazilian literature fucking sucks

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:40:30 2016 No.8795252 Philosophy is pretty much useless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:41:27 2016 No.8795257 Only 19th century Russian literature is worth reading. Everything else is trash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 13:46:14 2016 No.8795272 >>8793175 explain

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:04:45 2016 No.8795353 >>8795257 But everyone agrees with that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 14:48:27 2016 No.8795502 >>8795027 It's a romance in the Medieval tradition. Similar to the works of Chretien de Troyes and Wolfram von Eschenbach.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 15:02:33 2016 No.8795539 >>8793124 i think the next wave in literature is like a classics revival, something thats more anti academic like bukowski.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 15:34:37 2016 No.8795655 >>8795252 That's not really contrarian you stemcuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 15:46:06 2016 No.8795711 >>8793417 inb4 I have to agree with ye on that one

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 16:10:04 2016 No.8795828 >>8795257 20th century russian lit>>>19th century russian lit. Fact

>>	Anonymoos Sat Dec 3 23:09:28 2016 No.8797324 I cried at the end of Persona 3

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:10:39 2016 No.8797329 Art IS subjective and that is a objective opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:11:50 2016 No.8797333 krleža is the GOAT

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:27:30 2016 No.8797388 >>8795828 Which 20th century Russians are better than Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Pushkin, Gogol...?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:38:14 2016 No.8797741 >>8795252 Philosophy's usefulness is in it's uselessness.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:57:08 2016 No.8797791 >>8795502 I'm reading the LOTR series for the first time right now and your comment is helping me make sense of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:06:16 2016 No.8797817 >>8795252 some people can't hack it and that's okay. go make bricks

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:10:38 2016 No.8797831 >>8797741 not "in" but maybe "related to". maybe this relation: philosophy having the unique uses it does have depends on some properties, and these properties in turn ensure its uselessness in other more vulgarly appreciated areas.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:23:28 2016 No.8797868 literature is mind sex between intelligent free spirits and plebs call works "masturbatory" when they're too stupid to get off

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:37:26 2016 No.8797899 Camus is a fantastic novelist but a shit philosopher.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:41:54 2016 No.8797908 i haven't seen anyone who's read it, but Anthem by Ayn Rand isn't bad

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:50:12 2016 No.8797936
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>>8793124
any prestige in any tradition is utterly illusory. only individual works have value, and aping them does not transfer it.

*all the things you thought didn't count as aping them still count as aping them

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 04:45:05 2016 No.8798134 Nabakov sucks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 04:47:31 2016 No.8798137 >>8793192 I disagree but I guess that's the point.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 04:52:46 2016 No.8798145 >>8797936 >giving a giant fucking ape a hammer and nails What could go wrong?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:50:52 2016 No.8798904 >>8797333 Literally nobody I know would disagree (on the level of Croatian lit, of course - he's still not GOAT worldwide)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:10:53 2016 No.8798954 File: 248 KB, 400x666, __yuuki_makoto_persona_and_persona_3_drawn_by_shrie__982c3e207f4f422d28e7838aa3da8184.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8797324 He was too good for this world

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:13:30 2016 No.8798964 >>8795252 >It doesn't help me better serve the capitalist system as a middle class nobody so it must be useless.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:15:47 2016 No.8798970 Order of the Phoenix was the best Potter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 19:13:06 2016 No.8800559 File: 353 KB, 499x738, 1476754018158.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8793124 Everything DeLillo wrote that was not Underworld sucked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 19:21:40 2016 No.8800582 >>8800559 Objectively wrong

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