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[Anonymous No.22667398]

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[Anonymous No.22667410]

Bakker is KING
>Some one hundred thousand Inrithi had stumbled from the Carathay, and less than fifty thousand now ranged across the plain. Another twenty thousand remained within Caraskand, too weak to do more than cheer. Many had dragged themselves from their sickbeds and now crowded the Triamic Walls, especially about the Ivory Gate. Some cried out encouragement and prayers, while others wept, tormented by the collision of hope and hopelessness
>But on wall and field alike, everyone looked anxiously to the centre of the battle line, hoping for a glimpse of the new banner that graced the threadbare standards of the Holy War. There! through budding grove or across rolling pasture, flaring in the breeze: black on white, a ring bisected by the figure of a man, the Circumfix of the Warrior-Prophet. The glory of it scarcely seemed possible …
>War horns sounded the advance, and the grim ranks began marching forward, into distances screened by orchards and copses of ash and sycamore. Kascamandri had ordered his host to draw up more than two miles distant, where rolling plain broadened between the city and the surrounding hills, knowing it would be difficult for the Inrithi to cover the intervening distance without exposing their flanks or opening gaps in their line.
>Songs keened over the throbbing of Fanim drums. The deep war chants of the Thunyeri, which had once filled the forests of their homeland with the sound of doom. The keening hymns of the Ainoni, whose cultivated ears savoured the dissonance of human voices. The dirges of the Galeoth and the Tydonni, solemn and foreboding. They sang, the Men of the Tusk, overcome with strange passions: joy that knew no laughter, terror that knew no fear. They sang and they marched, walking with the grace of almost-broken men.
>Hundreds collapsed, faint for the lack of food. Their kinsmen hauled them to their feet, dragged them forward through the muck of fallow fields.
KINO

[Anonymous No.22667417]

Bakker is King. Simple as

[Anonymous No.22667433]

>>22667410
>>22667417
Should I read The Aspect-Emperor if I got spoiled that the Great Ordeal ultimately fails?

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.22667499]

>>22667398
The Dragonbone Chair, Memory, Sorrow, Thorn #1 - Tad Williams (1988)

Simon is a fourteen year old orphan who has been raised among the kitchen staff since birth at castle Hayholt. His days are filled with menial chores, which he often doesn't complete to satisfaction, as he'd prefer to explore the castle grounds, daydream, or listen to stories. After a time he becomes apprenticed to the castle's wizard, from whom he hopes to learn magic, but finds instead he first must undergo an education. These pleasantly indolent days are not long to last. A dark being from ancient days rises once more. Having stumbled upon the truth, Simon must flee everything he has ever known to survive.

The preceding paragraph is an overview of Part One, which covers about 25% of its length. Depending on your preferences, its leisurely pace with much description and abundant lore may feel comfy and immersive or slow and lecturing. That goes for the entirety of the book, but especially so for Part One. There are several songs, pages at a time of lore, readings from a book, and much else in terms of exposition. Simon isn't the only viewpoint character, so at times there will be others who are doing their own separate thing that builds up what's going in the world outside of Simon's quest.

Where they are is called Osten Ard, probably meaning Eastern Earth or similar. It's their year of 1164. I would say that it's Arthurian if it weren't for that the king is literally called John Presbyter, a legendary Christian figure who was said to have reigned in the East. There's also considerable influence from a Norse-like people. Osten Ard was settled by this story's version of elves and then men came and started a war in which humans triumphed. Another notable race are the trolls, one of whom Simon travels with, though it's certainly a different take on what a troll is. It was nice though.

Based on this first book it seems like a fine enough standard quest fantasy series. The series name refers to the three legendary swords that may be needed to defeat the Dark Lord, which I assume they travel around to various locales in their meandering way to obtain. This isn't really my preferred sort of fantasy and I didn't find Simon to be a protagonist I wanted to spend more time with, but I didn't find anything particularly bad about it. Simon seems like he's in for a considerable amount of suffering despite the easygoing opening, so it doesn't seem like it'll be casual and lighthearted adventuring.

What I've written is reductive, it's considerably more complicated that that, but it remains smooth and easy reading. Most everything outside of Simon's perspective seemed extraneous to me, which may have been because I wasn't fully engaged with the narrative. I won't be continuing this series, but I'll try Williams other novels at some other time since I've liked his short fiction, though I don't know that I'll give them as much of a chance as I gave this one.

Rating: 3/5

[Anonymous No.22667505]

>>22667499
/sffg/ ratings (20)
5 stars: 3
4 stars: 5
3 stars: 6
2 stars: 4
1 stars: 2

[Anonymous No.22667513]

I wanna posit an idea. Two members of two different and distinct, yet similar enough to reproduce over a long period of time; say a few hundred years. They’d essentially be the Adam and Eve of a new species.

Would it be possible to produce a thriving civilization like this, or would it just collapse due to inbreeding? Would you be able to believe it’s possible to the new Adam and Eve create a new people without resorting to outbreeding?

[Anonymous No.22667518]

Moorcock is fucking garbage.

[Anonymous No.22667535]

>>22667518
Corum and Hawkmoon are Kino tho??????? Concerning!

[Anonymous No.22667549]

Any opinions on The Bound and The Broken series?

I'm reading The Fall but I'm not really jelling with the prose or pacing so far. Just feels like I'm reading a webnovel that's rushing to the next story bullet.

[Anonymous No.22667566]

>>22667410
>errr umm yeah there were totally lots of dudes out there, very scary, very terrifying, grim indeed. Wow, you could see these zillion guys marching through the trees and the plains and the hills too, umm, hey check out these mysterious words, makes you want to read more, huh? Galeoth and Tydonna and Myrsini and Bobini, Criggigal and Florpadoo and Wipty Wopty and Hoodaloo! What a thrill right? The war drums, hey it's a war you gotta have drums right, ah and they're singing, warriors always sing, JRR Tolkien taught me that.
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.22667614]

>>22667499
hate books with "thorn" in the title

[Anonymous No.22667630]

>>22667535
>I'M SAD

[Anonymous No.22667638]

>>22667499
Love books with "thorn" in the title

[Anonymous No.22667642]

Any good skitzo fiction besides PKD have read pretty much his entire catalog

[Anonymous No.22667655]

>>22667642

[Anonymous No.22667692]

>>22667630
LITERALLY ME

[Anonymous No.22667749]

finished wot6, Lord of Chaos.
All of these books sort of share the same...feature where I have no idea what the plot of the book is. I thought the book would be about Sammael. Wait no it's about Morgaise. Wait no it's about the weather. Wait no it's about the Aes Sedai. Here, have a sprinkle of Black Tower and Shaido for the soup. Maybe I'm dumb, but am I supposed to have figured out who the Lord of Chaos is? Demandred mentioned him twice, once in the prologue and once in a random chapter in the middle of the book.
Things are on a constant state of "about to happen" I'm not a huge fan of.
This book felt much slower than the others. I dont care about Min at all. She used to be a cute tomboy gf and now all she does is fawn over Rand.
I really really hope Verin is more than just a darkfriend. She's clearly playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

[Anonymous No.22667824]

Who are the Tolkiens/George RR Martins of scifi?

[Anonymous No.22667859]

>every character needs to be grey
Since when it became a thing? I'd rather read about a nice guy like Sam than absolute retard rapist pedos or faggots like Viserys or Kellhus.

[Anonymous No.22667862]

>>22667499
Did you read wizard knight by wolfe?

[Anonymous No.22667882]

>>22667614
>The title of the book is The Dragonbone Chair

[Anonymous No.22667907]

>>22667749
The Lord of Chaos is Rand. "Order burns to clear his path".
All of the primary three get a kind of two-sided allegory, Rand is a messiah but also a demiurge, it's not an accident that the Dragon is the "Lord of the Morning", aka Morningstar.

[Anonymous No.22667931]

>>22667859
I'd rather read about Great Love Immortal Venerable! Do NOT be deceived by those who call him a Demon.

[Anonymous No.22667950]

>>22667931
>boils children alive
Fuck off edgy zoomer.

[Anonymous No.22668127]

Does anyone knows a sci Fi stories that is like a sci Fi version of the second apocalypse?

Hard mode: no Dune or Blindsight

[Anonymous No.22668131]

>>22667862
Not yet. Eventually I will, though I don't know when.

[Anonymous No.22668196]

>>22668127
What did he meant by this???

[Anonymous No.22668265]

Give me Sword and Sorcery that isn't written by raging leftist homos like Moorcock.

[Anonymous No.22668271]

What will you dorks be reading tonight in bed on your e-readers?

[Anonymous No.22668278]

>>22668271
I'm suffering from decision paralysis and probably will read nothing

[Anonymous No.22668288]

>>22668278
How will you fall asleep?????

[Anonymous No.22668318]

>>22668271
I am going to finish the chapter Of the Fifth Battle from the Silmarillion in paperback and then read some more Dracula on my kindle

[Anonymous No.22668319]

>>22668271
French novels from the 1930s about the aftermath of WWI

[Anonymous No.22668334]

>>22668271
I'm looking forward to finishing RI very soon but I should be writing for nano

[Anonymous No.22668359]

>Scientists have identified remnants of a 'Buried Planet' deep within the Earth. These remnants belong to Theia, the planet that collided with Earth 4.5 billion years ago that lead to the formation of our Moon.
>Theia
>Thea
Was that intentional? Is she a reference to a pre-Urth, some kind of cycle. How deep does it go

[Anonymous No.22668361]

>>22668359
which book?

[Anonymous No.22668373]

>>22667931
i'm only on chapter 400 why didn't he fuck the fox

[Anonymous No.22668378]

>>22668373
Fang Yuan loves three things:
- Benefits
- Mermaids
- Land Spirits

[Anonymous No.22668388]

>>22668378
so does he fuck the fox or what

[Anonymous No.22668397]

>>22668388
No, why would he have sex? It's the Great Love Alliance, not Great Sex Alliance. That's more Giant Sun's domain anyway.

[Anonymous No.22668398]

>>22667824
Herbert Sr

[Anonymous No.22668401]

>>22668265
Howard, Wagner, Leiber.

[Anonymous No.22668408]

i'm enjoying liveship traders but i'm constantly remembering family shit while reading it and is annoying, it takes me out of the story kek

[Anonymous No.22668564]

>>22668359
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theia
Reference to this, probably because Theia is mother to another Titan - Selene (Moon) and it's theorized that our moon formed due to collision with that Theia (planet) and proto-Earth.

[Anonymous No.22668643]

>>22668408
Lmao same i hate my family except my mum

[Anonymous No.22668680]

>walk past a bookstore
>see all these cool new wuxia/xianxia books
>still haven't finished Mother of Learning and The Blade Itself.
where do people find time to read so much?

[Anonymous No.22668693]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.22668696]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

[Anonymous No.22668751]

>>22668680
>wuxia/xianxia books
When are we getting new Wiwaxia books?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiwaxia

[Anonymous No.22668759]

>>22668680
>where do people find time to read so much?
If you want to do something, you'll make time for it. Reflect on your daily life and see where you could have made time but didn't; idle periods you allowed yourself out of apathy. 4chan is the obvious example, but think of other cases as well. When you actually sit and focus, you will tear through books much faster than you may expect.

[Anonymous No.22668768]

Depressing dystopian novels set in space?

[Anonymous No.22668817]

>>22667410
>especially around the Ivory Gate
Jesus fucking christ, is this prose or some kid drooling over his own imagination of an ”omg epic battle!!”
>the crowds pushing/converging/thickening around the Ivory Gate
Or any other more precise description is better than fucking ”especially”. Jesus christ..

t.r scott complete Hakker

[Anonymous No.22668852]

Bakkerbros: how does damnation actually work? Obviously Sin is equivalent to the real world idea of sin, but who judges or which God is responsible for its judgement when a soul leaves the world?

[Anonymous No.22668900]

>>22667824
In terms of defining ages I'd give a short answer of Asimov, Clarke, and Heinlein for the midcentury card, Harlan Ellison especially as a GRRM analogue for his work in anthologies ringing in the new wave, and LeGuin for providing the cancerous seed which chokes us all to this day.

[Anonymous No.22668967]

>>22668852
correct me if I'm wrong but its

the Gods themselves, who are flawed, casting judgement and ultimately damning many. they literally feed on souls and so it's in their best interest to damn people.. yet some are not damned. I haven't read the series in a long time I just remember Bakker poking fun at the notion of any sort of objective morality coming from these flawed gods

[Anonymous No.22668978]

>>22668334
>flaking out of nano on day 1
Wtf are you me

[Anonymous No.22669079]

>>22668768
Mainly Glasshouse, but also Singularity Sky and Iron Sunrise to some extent, all by Charlie Stross

[Anonymous No.22669091]

>>22668271
Still reading pic related, ~300 of 500 pages in

I don't think I've ever read a book that degrades in quality so linearly. Each chapter is just a tiny bit worse than the last

[Anonymous No.22669303]

Anyone read Sun of Suns? is it good?
>>22667398
>Tigana in the currently reading on goodreads
isnt Tigana one of Kay's worse novels?

[Anonymous No.22669318]

>>22669303
its his best

[Anonymous No.22669338]

>>22668271
The brain elements of mine will be occupied with The Night Land come eve.

[Anonymous No.22669519]

>>22669338
Master-word received. Man of taste recognized.

[Anonymous No.22669542]

>>22668978
>>22668334
I thought it was really sad and funny how the statistics say like less than or around 10% of participants actually complete nanowrimo when it's only around what, 60,000 words? 1,600 words a day? But if it's people like you guys who are so fucking lazy and devoid of any ability to stick to even a single month's commitment, then I understand.

[Anonymous No.22669546]

I want to start reading fantasy/sci-fi again, are there any good non-goyslop novels that has distinct cultures, ethnic groups or religions in conflict? don't recommend Malazan, because Icba to read any of the 700+pages novels anymore, they are too long, i barely finished two of them. Malazan is kinda what I'm looking for but they are too long for me.

[Anonymous No.22669584]

>>22669542
I can easily write 10,000+ words of slop a day if I want to, so I assume the problem with them is that they can't help but maintain high standards even in nanowrimo. You shouldn't be so proud of your ability to produce slop.

[Anonymous No.22669597]

>>22669542
I have a shitty setup which does not promote longterm typing within any given day. At least that's the excuse that I tell myself.

[Anonymous No.22669606]

I get that it's supposed to just get you into the habit of writing but nanowrimo seems like the worst possible way to write anything good. Because actually doing it and then having an entire 50k+ word work to edit all at once sounds terrible.

[Anonymous No.22669616]

>>22669584
>he took my post as bragging
Frail ego.
>I can easily write 10,000+ words of slop a day if I want to
Then why don't you?
>I assume the problem with them is that they can't help but maintain high standards even in nanowrimo
Is this the reason? The age old perfectionist excuse. No. Face it, "they" are just lazy.
>>22669597
That I can understand, but even if you can't properly participate in nanowrimo itself, go and start writing anything at all right now for your own personal nanowrimo. It doesn't have to be 1,600 words a day, just maintain good posture and write as much as you can with your own set-up. The worst thing you can do is give yourself a long list of failures or times you flaked out to look back on, and the best way to avoid that is by accomplishing something right now.

[Anonymous No.22669636]

>>22669616
I think anyone looking down on others and criticizing them will generally consider themselves superior; your intention was not to brag, most likely it was to derive pleasure from criticism (which is fun to read and write), but there is pride in it. Playing a semantic game around it is strange.

[Anonymous No.22669641]

>>22669636
>your intention was not to brag, most likely it was to derive pleasure from criticism (which is fun to read and write)
No, it was to shame people in this thread who gave up on nanowrimo into writing something by having an annoying anon in the thread talking shit about them.

[Anonymous No.22669678]

>>22668388
What are you talking about? What fox?

[Anonymous No.22669720]

>>22669641
I doubt you didn't derive any pleasure from the comment, but in any case, you should be aware there is a tendency for people to remove cognitive dissonance towards insults by behaving according to the insults. So if you call them lazy and spineless, there's a tendency to think "I guess I am just lazy, I really won't be able to stick with it, might as well give up." Insulting people a lot is highly liable to make them behave worse and worse on a subconscious level.

[Anonymous No.22669739]

The Hordes of King Crumplesnatcher marched across the Plain of Smorgasbord under the shadow of Not Mount Doom; before them stood the endless Armies of the Pumplesnuffer--demon-worshippers garbed in dead iron and bearing dread swords forged in the Age of Nimroddimper when the Maidens of Aflartemes still sang their song of the water over the Seething Waste. King Crumplesnatcher the Second, twice removed from King Pumpkineater of the Lonely Road, rode before his army, waving his dragon-dildo instrument of war and singing the song of his peoples, which was echoed a hundred million times by his Hordes; that endless wave.
*Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks*
*Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks*
*Lick on deez nutz and suck the dick*

For anyone interested in my 1000 page story written in this styel, please send an email.

[Anonymous No.22669759]

>>22669739
Pretty sure you copy/pasted this from Lyonesse.

[Anonymous No.22669808]

can i get a semi-detailed QRD on what happened in Abercrombie's last book? i've read the damn thing, but for some reason i can't recall any details about it. i only remember the broad strokes, like Orso gets hanged, Brock is now a POS, and the entire rebellion got orchestrated by Glokta to loosen Bayaz's control on the Union
for whatever reason, i can't find any proper spoiler summaries on the internet

[Anonymous No.22669819]

Post the
>last book you read
>current book you're reading
>next book you plan to read

For me, it's
>Dracula by Bram Stoker
>Conjure Wife by Fritz Leiber
>Dracula, Prince of Many Faces: His Life and His Times by Radu Florescu

>>22669720
>So if you call them lazy and spineless, there's a tendency to think "I guess I am just lazy, I really won't be able to stick with it, might as well give up." Insulting people a lot is highly liable to make them behave worse and worse on a subconscious level.
It's never been a problem for me. I think bullying is a great way to guide people into doing something productive. Much better than people patting them on the back and telling them they're perfectly fine the way they are, at least. Some of my best friends right now are people I've bantered with enough to where they built up a competitive spirit against me. If somebody feels insulted and their response is to conform to the insult rather than shrug it off or get defensive, then they've got other deeper problems. They would've been lazy whether or not I egged them on, and chances are they were already "that way", and my insult didn't push them any deeper into their shell, it just resonated with the beliefs they already held about themselves. Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread any further, so see the above.

[Anonymous No.22669846]

>>22669819
>last book you read
Frankenstein
>current book you're reading
Hour of the Dragon
>next book you plan to read
Idk probably more REH short stories through the weekend until Butcher's new book comes out Tuesday, then that

[Anonymous No.22669862]

>>22669846
>Hour of the Dragon
I haven't read that one yet. I actually just ordered The Bloody Crown of Conan a few days ago, though, so I will soon. I hope you're enjoying it, but I'm not entirely confident in Conan being able to be dragged out to novel length.

[Anonymous No.22669880]

>>22669862
Nice that's what I'm reading it in as well. The story before it, People of the Black Circle, was really enjoyable despite being longer than the usual Conan tale and Hour of the Dragon is good so far. It actually seems to be a reused plot of an earlier short story but more fleshed out and changed up a bit and I don't think it's hurt the quality any.

[Anonymous No.22670104]

What's the /sffg/ equivalent?

[Anonymous No.22670149]

>>22669546
The Second Apocalypse.

[Anonymous No.22670158]

>>22669819
>last book you read
The Odyssey (Homer/Lattimore)
>current book you're reading
About 25 pages off the end of The White-Luck Warrior.
>next book you plan to read
An omnibus of Plato's Dialogues - I want to read more non-fiction so I'm starting with the Greeks. The Iliad was a truly incredible read.

[Anonymous No.22670165]

>>22670158
Also, I have the Dialogues and Republic on hand. I've read NOT to start with Republic. A reading guide I came across recommended Symposium as the place to begin with Plato but I don't have a copy of that on-hand. Will I be confused starting with Plato's Dialogues? I'm slightly above average intelligence - alright at English, bad at maths.

[Anonymous No.22670265]

>>22670158
>non-fiction
>plato dialogs
>the iliad
Anon...

[Anonymous No.22670314]

I'm gonna admit it bros... I've started to sour on Conan. A guy who always wins because he's the strongest and the best isn't very interesting.

[Anonymous No.22670322]

>>22670265
The Iliad is fiction, obviously. The Dialogues, however? Isn't philosophy considered non-fiction.

[Anonymous No.22670345]

>>22670314
Conan stories aren't about the final outcome, but what happens on the way. Quintessential "journey not the destination." You're simply reading them incorrectly.

[Anonymous No.22670353]

>>22670158
>>22670158
Nice. Symposium and Phaedo are my favorites of Plato. But shouldn't Symposium be included in that omnibus you have of Plato's dialogues? Anyway, I'm gonna give you a recommendation of a Greek classic for your non-fiction reading: Xenophon's Anabasis or "The Persian Expedition". Also check out Alexander Pope's translation of The Odyssey sometime. A lot of people shit on it because it's not as accurate as it could be, but I think anybody who denies that Pope's translation is one of the masterworks of English poetry is just lying to themselves. So long as people continue to read the blatantly inaccurate KJV for its beauty, I think people should read Pope.
>About 25 pages off the end of The White-Luck Warrior.
Have you liked what you've read so far?

[Anonymous No.22670362]

>>22670322
>literally makes up stories to make himself sound more correct
>surely it's not fictitious?

[Anonymous No.22670365]

>>22670149
>Bakker
bros... should i take the Bakkerpill?

[Anonymous No.22670375]

>>22670353
The collection of Dialogue's I own are split into two volumes - Symposium is in the second volume, which I don't own. Thanks for the rec also, I'll add it to my list of Greek shit to read. When I re-read The Iliad, I plan on reading Pope's as I want a more traditional translation.
As for the White Luck Warrior, I have enjoyed it but it's the first Bakker novel I've read where I thought numerous times that he could use a better editor.

[Anonymous No.22670425]

>>22670365
I really couldn't think of something better to describe what you're looking for. His popularity in this general is overstated because of a few spamming retards but I'm genuinely recommending him to you based on what you posted

[Anonymous No.22670453]

>>22669546
The Lions of Al-Rassan is a standalone that's basically a fantasy version of the Reconquista.

I know you said you don't want anything too long but you could easily dip into Dune just for the first book and have a pretty decent story out of just that.

If you want to go real weird try out Courtship Rite. Its about a dystopian failed colony where there's almost no edible food and the entire planet is poisonous to humans so they break up into cannibal clans that specialize to desperately provide enough utility so they deserve to survive. The plot is essentially personal struggles colliding with clan clashes on a religious and political level.

[Anonymous No.22670454]

>>22669678
he's talking about Fang Yuan's daughter

[Anonymous No.22670466]

>>22670158
very very based.. both the Bakker and the Greek talk. I did philosophy in college and I unironically think you can start AND stop with the Greeks. enjoy the Dialogues - they are wonderful.

Medieval phil was interesting but very focused on religion and thelogy. nothing wrong with that, but a lot of it is Augustine defining the attributes of God etc etc. Modern phil.. well Kant is neat. Analytic phil, jesus christ no thanks, it's navel gazing to the fullest extent. continental phil, jesus christ no thanks as well, it's word salad to the fullest extent. honestly I wish I started and stopped with the Greeks and never got into philosophy otherwise - it's just too much; it made me feel WORSE (in the sense that it brings up more questions than it answers). The Buddha and the Theravada Buddhists were seemingly right in that: asking metaphysical questions leads to suffering ---- therefore, do not ask metaphysical questions. thanks for reading my blog

[Anonymous No.22670525]

>>22670453
Lions of Al-Rassan and Courtship Rite sound interesting, Courtship Rite gives off bizzare Wolfe's BotNS vibes.. will check them both. thanks!
>>22670425
yeah I read the descriptions of his novels and they seem to be the kind that I want, But idk which novels to read first and whether I should read them in order. /sffg/'s Bakker popularity is what got me worried, i felt he was a meme dogshit writer that people meme him because he sucks.

[Anonymous No.22670548]

>>22670525
>i felt he was a meme dogshit writer that people meme him because he sucks.
correct

[Anonymous No.22670643]

Give me any 1 volume long fantasy book and I'll read it tonight

[Anonymous No.22670664]

>>22670643
Dragonsbane by Barbara Hambly, it's my mom's favorite fantasy book

[Anonymous No.22670683]

>>22670664
Seems cool, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.22670693]

Why didn't Sauron recruit the Balrog? He's a pretty strong guy and he could've been useful to the forces of Evil.

[Anonymous No.22670709]

>>22670643
A Knight of Valora: Serenity!

The story is STANDALONE. So if you don't want to commit to a fantasy story for years to find out the end, this may be for you!

[Anonymous No.22670719]

>>22670345
>The big-breasted woman walked boobily with heavy tits bouncing and nipples protruding through the thin fabric of her shirt
>Conan, the oiled, muscled warrior tanned dark from the sun, watched her with eager eyes
That's 50% of every conan story

[Anonymous No.22670725]

>>22668271
The one anons book he posted here

[Anonymous No.22670730]

>>22670693
Sauron is queer and the Balrogs were bigots

[Anonymous No.22670743]

>>22670709
This better be half-decent shill.

https://www.amazon.com/Knight-Valora-Serenity/dp/B0CCCNBQ3M

[Anonymous No.22670748]

>>22670693
he spent all his attention on looking for the ring
Sauron is also a control freak and controlling such a powerful being is not easy even for him

[Anonymous No.22670750]

>>22670725
A few days ago I got the idea to trawl through past threads and make a list of anon-written novels. But warosu's search function is lacking and you can't search specific terms within the same subject (so I can't search "amazon" ONLY within sffg threads).

[Anonymous No.22670760]

Recently finished pic related. Pretty good for what it is, some very cool ideas.
Could use an editor and gets a bit too much up its own ass towards the end, but overall good.

[Anonymous No.22670766]

This is the new bakker king.

[Anonymous No.22670773]

>>22670314
low test

[Anonymous No.22670779]

>>22670750
Just put down all of F Gardners books. He's the only one that wrote fantasy

[Anonymous No.22670789]

>Don't like action scenes in fantasy books.. Is it just me?
>I am not a fan of action scenes in fantasy or sci-fi books.. I tend to have problems following the action and a lot of times I zone out or I skim through the action scenes..
>I can follow slice of life or political intrigue better in books. I know a lot of people just love action scenes but I just cannot seem to be able to follow enough to like it..

>Am I alone or is it just me?
Do redditzoomers really...?

[Anonymous No.22670790]

>>22670789
what scenes do they want exactly

[Anonymous No.22670798]

>>22670525
>should I read them in order?
Yes, they are all sequential. It's as simple as reading them in publication order. There are 7 novels presently, split into two mini-series. If you don't enjoy The Prince of Nothing, you don't have to read The Aspect-Emperor.

[Anonymous No.22670836]

>>22670719
No it isn't. And your sex-focused reductionist tendencies don't change that.

[Anonymous No.22670846]

>>22670836
>She was tall, full-bosomed, and large-limbed, with compact shoulders. Her whole
figure reflected an unusual strength, without detracting from the femininity of her
appearance. She was all woman, in spite of her bearing and her garments.
literally the first page of the first conan book I opened

>He grinned hardly, and his fierce blue eyes burned with a light any woman could
understand as they ran over her magnificent figure, lingering on the swell of her
splendid breasts beneath the light shirt, and the clear white flesh displayed between
breeches and boot-tops
one page later

[Anonymous No.22670892]

We need an updated reading guide for Sanso books
The ones in the mega folder are outdated

[Anonymous No.22670934]

>>22670664
Hambly is really underrated

[Anonymous No.22670942]

>>22670789
I agree with this desu, reading overly long and unexciting is the most boring thing you can get in genre fiction.
Even with action I do like large scale battles are almost never interesting.

[Anonymous No.22670952]

rereading malazan, halfway through toll the hounds now. i know anomander rake is supposed to be black with long white hair, but i keep picturing him as brent spiner from star trek, essentially a complete opposite. is my racism starting to affect my ability to read now?

[Anonymous No.22670967]

>>22670952
yeah you are kinda autistic too, I imagine him as Drizzt, because I read some of Drizzt's novels.
>>22670798
will do then, thanks!

[Anonymous No.22671023]

>>22670952
>is my racism starting to affect my ability to read now?
for the better

[Anonymous No.22671034]

>>22670525
>people meme him because he sucks
he does, imo. TDTCB starts really good but it quickly goes south. I hated TWP and couldn't even finish TTT. but your experience may be different, what do i know, i'm slogging through malazan again because i can't find anything i like

[Anonymous No.22671036]

>>22670952
I did the same with Tuon in WoT.

[Anonymous No.22671051]

>>22669808
That's basically the long and the short of what happens plus the Northern plotline which is just Rikke setting herself up as the new leader of the North while the Union goes through it's very own Reign of Terror. I felt like there was a lot of wheel-spinning in the book, maybe that was just me but there was a lot of hammering in just how shit everything was going and not a lot of progress being made until near to the end. It's been a while since I read it though.
Rip my boy Orso, what a heartbreaking finale.
I hope Abercrombie releases a new book soon, I want to see what happens with Bayaz's two new proteges.

[Anonymous No.22671062]

>>22671036
i never made it that far, around book 6 or 7 i decided i would rather kill myself than read another single line about egwene or nynaeve. i aready hate women at a kazakh level, i can't take more

[Anonymous No.22671071]

Is there much other fantasy that leans into philosophy as hard as Bakker? Seems like science-fiction is full of thus, but fantasy is lacking.

[Anonymous No.22671073]

>>22667398
>gamer generals
>wall facers
Which plan was worse?

[Anonymous No.22671074]

>>22671062
If you power through, Nynaeve eventually gets redeemed. Egwene, however, is a motherfucker to the bitter end.

[Anonymous No.22671250]

>>22671074
How much "redeemed" does Nynaeve get? pls explain

[Anonymous No.22671259]

>>22671250
She's best girl in the series.

[Anonymous No.22671341]

>>22667499
>Most everything outside of Simon's perspective seemed extraneous to me, which may have been because I wasn't fully engaged with the narrative
It's more because this series takes a while to build up to where everything connects. This is a thing Tad does with all his series, but in this one, his first 4 book series, the slow build up is especially pronounced.

[Anonymous No.22671348]

>>22667513
>Would it be possible to produce a thriving civilization like this, or would it just collapse due to inbreeding?
You have full control over the scenario so why are you asking questions you can answer yourself?

[Anonymous No.22671349]

>>22671259
She's just another boring mary sue like the Two Rivers boys. Egwene is the only MC actually worth a damn in the end.

[Anonymous No.22671352]

>>22671349
>egwene poster
>calling other characters mary sues
Certified woman moment.

[Anonymous No.22671356]

>>22668680
I make time to read every evening, at least an hour, sometimes two. On days off I sometimes spend most of my free time reading. I don't see what's hard about it, I always make time to do things I find enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.22671357]

>>22671349
Egwene is the only actual mary sue in wheel of time.

[Anonymous No.22671372]

>>22671357
wot MCs are literally fated to win by the premise of the entire story.
Most of them could jump off a cliff and that wind passing through the mountains of mist would carry them to safety

[Anonymous No.22671377]

>>22671372
That's not what a mary sue is.

[Anonymous No.22671379]

>>22671377
i didnt mean to reply to you, it was just a general comment.

[Anonymous No.22671382]

>>22671073
I think both, in the context of their series, makes sense. The plan in Ender's Game was a generational thing IIRC, the people were rigorously tested and perfected in the best manners of education and combat known to them at the time. The biggest benefits of maturity weren't really available to Ender and his cohort. You didn't really have diplomacy. You didn't really have any logistics to worry about, these were all one-offs. The engagements were going to be entirely novel, so there wasn't any real benefit to experience. What veterancy there was was also present with Ender during the campaign. Was it dumb and fantastical? Oh yes, it was. But there's a narrative weight to the plan that Softens it somewhat. If something is dumb but has the full throated patience of humanity behind it then it can still have some value.

The Wall Facers is an interesting idea and I would hesitate to call it dumb. What do you do when the enemy can instantly know every communication you make, no matter how secure or private? The only refuge is thought, and so it must remain in your thoughts. The idiocy however is in the Trisolaran response to Luo Ji. They make a half hearted explanation that he is his own Wallbreaker, but that just doesn't make sense. The Trisolarans are established as pathologically paranoid, the resolution to the entire conflict is based entirely around that justified paranoia! Why then are they content to let one fourth of humanity's most secretive plan just go forth unhindered? Every other Wallfacer was answered and had agents tasked against them.

The answer, may it be unsatisfying to you is that they are both dumb in opposing manners. Ender's Game relies on extremely specific constructions to make it viable at all, yet the Wall Facers ultimately require an alien intelligence to be utterly passive against the only successful agent they had.

[Anonymous No.22671595]

>>22669819
>last book you read
Oathbringer, by Brandon Sanderson (reread)
>current book you're reading
Justice of Kings, by Richard Swan. Only just started, no opinion yet, but I've seen this mentioned a bit and hope it's as good as I'm anticipating.
>next book you plan to read
The Traitor, by Anthony Ryan. Liked the first two books, hope he can stick the landing with this one.

[Anonymous No.22671622]

>>22671250
Nynaeve was always the best girl, you just didn't realize it because Jordan bamboozled you by how he writes women. It becomes obvious though once she gets married to Lan and finally loses her virginity. After that she's a changed woman. Loses a lot of her old bluster because she no longer feels the need to prove herself to anybody.

Also, Nynaeve is one of the only characters to remain 100% loyal to Rand through the entire series. She never abandons him, never works against him, and supports him without any reservations even when he says he's going to do something totally insane, and literally follows him into the pit of Shayol Ghul, one of only two people to do so. She also raised an fucking army for Lan so he wouldn't ride to his death alone.

[Anonymous No.22671627]

Naomi Novik is my new favorite author. I really like her stuff.

[Anonymous No.22671631]

>>22671627
I'm also a fan after reading Deadly Education. Great trilogy, very tightly written.

[Anonymous No.22671697]

>>22671627
>Naomi Novik
I tried reading Uprooted. No man can read that shit unless he's massively gay. Highly recommended for gay men.

[Anonymous No.22671698]

>>22669808

[Anonymous No.22671720]

>>22671698
he cute :)

[Anonymous No.22671751]

>>22669808
fuck shit. shit piss fuck cunt. *spits* fucking shit cunt piss bloody shit fuck. *hawks phlegm* shit fucker pig fucking cunt arse.

[Anonymous No.22671784]

>>22671751
>*hawks phlegm*
>hawks

[Anonymous No.22672017]

>>22671631
It's actually the only series I've been tempted to buy a box set for to keep in perpetuity. So good.

[Anonymous No.22672041]

About 3/4ths of the way through Return to the Whorl. This puts anything in New Sun or Latro to shame in the unreliable narrator department.
The “secret” of the inhumi was also kinda lame, it was easy enough to put together from the hints.

[Anonymous No.22672100]

>>22670454
She is not his daughter

[Anonymous No.22672112]

>>22667398
Have read some Howard and lovecraft, but noth the third of the big three, Ashton Smith, what should I start with?

[Anonymous No.22672162]

>>22672112
Ignore the cover, it's truly terrible and deserves its redicule from this general. If you're not bothered by stuff like that, this is where you can start, read it cover to cover. If you hate the cover enough (understandle) and don't mind an e-reader, you can get his complete works for a dollar or two on the kindle shop and use the table of contents listed on the shop page for the book above as a reading order.

[Anonymous No.22672163]

>>22672162
Fucking hell, I forgot the link:
https://www.hippocampuspress.com/clark-ashton-smith/fiction/zothique-the-final-cycle-by-clark-ashton-smith

[Anonymous No.22672173]

>>22672163
>that covef
what i the worlds

[Anonymous No.22672229]

>>22672163
>>22672173
what the actual fuck

[Anonymous No.22672256]

>>22672173
>>22672229
small publishing house please understanderu

[Anonymous No.22672289]

I should've started reading western fantasy a lot sooner
this is absolute kino
any more like this?

[Anonymous No.22672313]

Is there any modern christian fantasy author on the same level as Tolkien, Lewis and Wolfe?

[Anonymous No.22672335]

>>22672313
Not sure if you'd consider him modern, but Lafferty is great. There's a Sci-fi Masterworks collection of his most popular short stories introduced by Neil Gayman

[Anonymous No.22672358]

>>22670643
>>22670664
>It is the first book in Hambly's landmark epic quartet, The Winterlands.
>1 volume long

[Anonymous No.22672370]

>>22672229
kino cover

[Anonymous No.22672390]

>>22672229
Who looked at this and said, "yup this is good enough"
It's probably public domain, but it feels like some guy that works there drew it and they didn't want to hurt his feelings and agreed to print it

[Anonymous No.22672394]

>>22670952
That's weird anon, especially because Tiste Andii are literally the color black, not the human skin tone.
>>22672041
I liked it because it provided a level of certainty to a notion that while obvious was relatively unclear. I feel like this save notion of true for a lot of the "reveals". The narrative makes them obvious and the reveal clarifies.

[Anonymous No.22672447]

Any Malazan readers here ? Are the Ian C. Esselmont books important for a first time read or should I not bother with them??

[Anonymous No.22672490]

>>22672112
Typically CAS is broken up into four cycles: Zothique, Averoigne, Poseidonis, and Hyperborea. There is an apppendix of a few short stories that are more science fiction, Xiccarph which is a truly alien planet as well as Aihai which is Mars, usually the Science Fiction stuff is just marketed under Xiccarph.

Of the four main cycles the one most beloved would be Zothique which is the Dying Earth stories that everyone reads as soon as they get done with Vance. But his stories don't end there. If you really like Conan and want more prehistoric horror-centric sword and sorcery then Hyperborea is your go-to for that. If you want medieval dark fantasy then Averoigne is a benighted region of France. Poseidonis is probably the weakest, its Hellenic fiction

You can't really go wrong starting anywhere with Clark Ashton Smith. If you're hesitant to purchase a copy of his works or want a quick hit of him, there's a fairly complete website that is akin to an old fashioned web shrine to his works, I shall link it down below. It has online versions of many of his short stories as well as correspondence.

http://www.eldritchdark.com/

[Anonymous No.22672524]

>>22671051
>I want to see what happens with Bayaz's two new proteges
what proteges, i don't remember any. he only has Yoru afaik
>I hope Abercrombie releases a new book soon
tough luck anon, he's currently hard at work on a fantasy version of Suicide Squad, due for release sometime in 2024-2025, so it's gonna be a while before we see any FL books

[Anonymous No.22672532]

>>22672447
Don't bother for the first read through. They're good but add little unless you already know what's going on.

[Anonymous No.22672592]

>>22672229
I feel my third eye opening from just looking at this thing

[Anonymous No.22672596]

>>22672289
Sell me on it. I see Young adult tag on it and disregard it as trash.

[Anonymous No.22672599]

>>22672041
The inhumi 'reveal' is so awkwardly handled I cant help but think it's intentional

[Anonymous No.22672625]

>>22667749
>I really really hope Verin is more than just a darkfriend. She's clearly playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.
Honestly, she's the best character.

[Anonymous No.22672786]

>>22672229
YOU MAY ONLY POST ON /sffg/ IF YOU ARE 25 OR OLDER
WHAT ARE MY FELLOW 25+ers READING?

[Anonymous No.22673141]

>>22670766
based dino enjoyer

[Anonymous No.22673338]

>>22672229
whats going on here

[Anonymous No.22673358]

>>22670789
Most sff writers suck at action scenes. They write boring scenes because they're boring people. If you want to see it done correctly, you can compare to adventure magazine writers like Theodore Roscoe.

[Anonymous No.22673368]

>>22671784
hawk3
/hôk/
verb
3rd person present: hawks
clear the throat noisily.
"he hawked and spat into the flames"
bring phlegm up from the throat.

[Anonymous No.22673548]

>>22671627
>Naomi Novi
I liked the first Temeraire book when I was a teenager, from what I remember.

[Anonymous No.22673759]

[Anonymous No.22673843]

How can I get a physical copy of this under $10?

[Anonymous No.22673860]

What are some good books about secret government organizations dealing with metaphysical threats like Lovecraftian horrors or ghosts or vampires or such like? Like a book version of Hellboy or Men in Black or something

>>22667499
>the autistic review guy finally got around to Memory, Sorrow, Thorn
I read that shit like 3 years ago and it fucking sucked horribly, do NOT get invested in it, it's complete trash

[Anonymous No.22673889]

>>22673860
This but it's not good.

[Anonymous No.22673905]

>>22670766
loved this book.

[Anonymous No.22673933]

just finished the sixth red rising novel... not to spoil, but I thought this was meant to be the last book??? is there REALLY going to be another trilogy? I'm starting to think this should have just ended at the end of book three..

[Anonymous No.22673945]

>>22673860
Try the Laundry Files, its all about Lovecraftian horrors handled by bureaucracy.

[Anonymous No.22673947]

>>22673889
>but it's not good
thanks, I won't be reading it
This is an example of a GOOD book about secret organizations tackle the supernatural

[Anonymous No.22673977]

>>22673945
thanks, that might be interesting
does it have action in it or is it purely bureaucratic? Ideally the heroes would be punching or shooting or reversing the polarity of the monsters

[Anonymous No.22673995]

>>22673860
I don't resemble that remark. As I mentioned I won't be reading more and I said I wasn't engaged/invested in it. I don't think it was that bad though.

[Anonymous No.22674018]

>>22673889
>but it's not good
nigga what yes it is

[Anonymous No.22674025]

>>22673995
You'd think if it was bad if you were as foolish as me and read the other three novels

[Anonymous No.22674027]

>>22673843
Get a free PDF and print out every page, put into binder
Will probably be about $10 of ink

[Anonymous No.22674034]

>>22667398
I just read First and Last Men by Stapledon. Should I read Lewis' Space Trilogy first, or should I read Star Maker?
Why am I mining old stuff?
Why is science fiction dead?

[Anonymous No.22674049]

>>22668373
Wait, *chapter* 400?

[Anonymous No.22674074]

>>22674049
How do people read these giant tomes? Don't you get bored?

[Anonymous No.22674097]

>>22674074
there are people that watch 1000+ episode filler animes... you know that right?

[Anonymous No.22674100]

>>22674097
i will never understand one piece fans

[Anonymous No.22674122]

>>22668359
The other protoplanet is called Gaia. Gaia and Theia formed different Lagrange points in the same orbit; this was unstable, and eventually they collided, forming the Earth and the Moon.
I seem to remember that it is uncertain that the Moon formed in a single step, and another collision didn't occur later. That's the reason why in the Lucy movie they only showed Theia emerging from Gaia when time was going backwards, carefully avoiding showing one or two moons (much like in The Passion of the Christ support for one of the conflicting narratives of the four Gospels was avoided)
https://youtu.be/NdLTEC6X3pk?t=175

[Anonymous No.22674199]

>>22667398
Im looking for a fantasy novel centered around a small group of characters going on a journey. Id like it to be lighthearted and enjoyable. Really just something to read while relaxing for the holidays. Ive already read LOTR.

Alternatively I would read a good urban fantasy but those are usually pozzed as fuck.

[Anonymous No.22674207]

>>22674199
basically anything by David Eddings
the Belgariad and Malloreon is a series of 10 books (5 each) that more or less matches your description, and so is the Elenium and Tamuli except that's three books each

[Anonymous No.22674210]

>>22673977
Its a mixture of "field work" where they do indeed engage in combat, both ritualistic and martial, with the eldritch and how a modern government would handle such things like requiring you to document how many rounds of ammunition you shot at Gorlack the Destroyer

[Anonymous No.22674218]

>>22671382
thankfully i already read both books, but use spoiler tags so you don't ruin the plot for others, retard

[Anonymous No.22674228]

>>22674199
Dragonlance

[Anonymous No.22674235]

>>22673945
Unfortunately it's shit

[Anonymous No.22674244]

>>22673860
>What are some good books about secret government organizations dealing with metaphysical threats like Lovecraftian horrors or ghosts or vampires or such like? Like a book version of Hellboy or Men in Black or something
The Rook fits this, I found it pretty fun.

[Anonymous No.22674253]

>>22673945
>Mage Errant ends
>The Last Echo of the Lord of Bells turns out to be complete manipulation of an entire empire's paper records through ink-and-paper magic, causing a beauracratic nightmare
lul

[Anonymous No.22674269]

>>22672524
The kid in the north that is implied to grow up to be some ultra bad ass with the makers sword and the girl that was Orsos friend that is going to work in the banks or something like that.

[Anonymous No.22674276]

>>22674210
ah so it's like Ghostbusters but British and unfunny

[Anonymous No.22674288]

>>22674199
Does Cradle count? Hmm, probably not.

[Anonymous No.22674375]

>>22673947
I'm surprised Powers doesn't get talked about more here. He's put out some good books over the years, and he's one of the few writers who can do urban fantasy that isn't cringe-inducing.

[Anonymous No.22674380]

>>22674034
read The Outward Urge by "Lucas Parkes" (John Wyndham)

[Anonymous No.22674386]

>>22674276
why are you even asking for recommendations if you're making excuses not to read anything

[Anonymous No.22674443]

>>22673860
>What are some good books about secret government organizations dealing with metaphysical threats
Lord of the Mysteries

[Anonymous No.22674460]

>>22674386
I didn't say I wasn't going to read it, I was just making a joke
>>22674443
>gothic steampunk isekai
that sounds cool I'll just-
>chinese webnovel with 10,000 chapters

[Anonymous No.22674474]

>>22674460
Lord of Mysteries is peak KINO

[Anonymous No.22674476]

Do I read Bakker or Wolfe first? This is important because I haven't read Fantasy in years and I want to rekindle the passion for it.

[Anonymous No.22674519]

>>22674476
Wolfe

[Anonymous No.22674520]

>>22674460
>iskeai good
>webnovel bad

[Anonymous No.22674575]

>>22674375
I've read The Anubis Gates and liked it. May check out Declare later.

On an unrelated note: someone recommended Carrion Comfort 3 months ago that I just finished reading. Thanks, it was great. A wee bit bloated towards the end, but I'd give it a solid 4/5.

Any other recommendations? Bakker and wuxia fags need not reply.

[Anonymous No.22674588]

Ewww anon, if you're going to write coomer shit, you should go all out. Fuck this teasing rapey prison scene, just have bad guy rape MC already.

[Anonymous No.22674600]

>>22674588
Hot, sauce? Does the guy rapes Adah?

[Anonymous No.22674603]

>>22674600
no. guy gets his face burned off.

[Anonymous No.22674605]

>>22674603
Booring

[Anonymous No.22674610]

>>22674605
i know that's why author should have went all the way. I want to see penis in pussy, mouth, and asshole. Not her magic spell to get her out of the situation then proceed to kill 5 other guards, one after he took a massive shit.

[Anonymous No.22674760]

>>22674520
Portal fantasy has been a standard premise in western fantasy fiction for over 150 years, it's a good trope.
Webnovels have been a horrible trend generated over the past 10 years by terminally autistic soulless oriental bugpeople that turn men into anime-addicted trannies.

[Anonymous No.22674770]

>>22674610
The Sword Art Online web novel started in 2002 and was by means the start of the trend.

[Anonymous No.22674822]

>>22674610
I think it's due to publisher or Amazon not wanting rape and stuff
>We don’t sell certain content including content that we determine is hate speech, promotes the abuse or sexual exploitation of children, contains pornography, glorifies rape or pedophilia, advocates terrorism, or other material we deem inappropriate or offensive.
It's okay when Martin and Bakker does it though

[Anonymous No.22674881]

>>22674760
>portal fantasy the same as Isekai
Whatever you say dood

[Anonymous No.22674896]

>>22674881
>>22674760
Portal Fantasy
>a story that involves characters travelling through a “portal” (wardrobe/train platform/tornado/etc.) from our real world into some magical, fantasy realm.
Isekai
>(Japanese: 異世界, transl. "different world", "another world" or "otherworld"). A subgenre of portal fantasy that revolves around a displaced person or people who are transported to and have to survive in another world, such as a fantasy world, virtual world, or parallel universe.

[Anonymous No.22674903]

>>22674896
>prescriptive language
Whatever you say dood

[Anonymous No.22674910]

>>22674903
>dood
Shut the fuck up prinny.

[Anonymous No.22674965]

>>22672786
32 year old here.. read the first quarter of Embassytown by China today and I enjoyed it. also on deck is Use of Weapons by Banks.. Lord of Light by Zelanzy.. and pic related, a blind buy I got for $1 at the library today. I was browing the /sffg/ section (which is honestly great at my local library btw) and the cute libraian working there was stocking some books and dropped a shit load. she's got kind eyes

[Anonymous No.22674988]

>>22674588
Sauce me up.

[Anonymous No.22675040]

>>22669739
Mr. Bakker, please stop ripping off my stories before I've published them.

[Anonymous No.22675047]

>>22668271
If i do read i'm propably going to start something similar to the culture series since i crave some clark tech goofiness. For some odd reason i still think about the books way more often than others despite reading them half a decade ago. Maybe it's the ship names and other memetic stuff mixed in. Non sterile hyper scifi recs welcome since i haven't chosen a book yet.

[Anonymous No.22675091]

Friendly reminder that this universally beloved and bestselling fantasy novel was written during Nanowrimo just two years ago.

[Anonymous No.22675098]

>>22675091
>yuri shit
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.22675132]

>>22675098
male authors writing female protagonists who are either lesbian or bisexual (but written mainly having female LIs) is such a cowardly approach lol

[Anonymous No.22675134]

>>22675098
It's not lesbo shit, retard. Didn't even read it and thinks he can talk shit.

[Anonymous No.22675147]

>>22672394
I guess I just can't imagine a black person having the intelligence and long time preference Rake has.
>>22672447
I didn't read all of them, 3 or maybe 4. Enough to decide that Esslemont is a shit writer and that having two authors operating in the same fantasy world is a really poor idea

[Anonymous No.22675158]

>>22675147
nta
What about having dozens of authors in writing in the same setting as is the case for various franchises?

[Anonymous No.22675164]

>>22675132
>lesbians because they actually support LGTBBQ
>lesbians because it's just a fetish
lesbians are like schrodingers representation

[Anonymous No.22675189]

>>22675134
It has the lgbt flag on audible. It's lesbo shit.

[Anonymous No.22675214]

>>22675164
>lesbians when one of them used to be a male so it warps around and becomes straight
That's how you know you've got kino on your hands

[Anonymous No.22675233]

>>22675214
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.22675377]

>>22674269
>The kid in the north that is implied to grow up to be some ultra bad ass with the makers sword
i don't recall that, elaborate
>the girl that was Orsos friend that is going to work in the banks or something like that.
ah right, his dogsbody. she was cute :)

[Anonymous No.22675401]

>>22675132
>writing novel with ensemble cast
>no plans to have romance play out
>halfway done and send the first draft of that first half to some alpha readers and a friend who is a professional writer
>multiple alpha readers remark that they see the friendship between two female characters as a romance arc
>reread their chapters
>I can't unsee it now
>discussing how to proceed with second half with writer friend
>workshopping character motivation angles for one of the female protags
>"Well anon, it seems like she's really close with anonette, so if this emotionally intimate relationship progressing into a romantic one, you could open door for XYZ conflict points."
>It just fucking fits
>She's emailing me references on how to write tasteful romance now.
I was going to try to publish this and gift it to my family now, but if I go forward with writing lesbian romance of all things, they're gonna look at me cockeyed for the rest of my life.

[Anonymous No.22675420]

>>22675164
I support LGTBBQ BECAUSE it's my fetish.

[Anonymous No.22675435]

Opinion on this?

[Anonymous No.22675453]

>>22675435
stupid looking sword

[Anonymous No.22675462]

>>22675435
If they were gonna get a black library writer they could've at least tried to get a decent one

[Anonymous No.22675466]

>>22675233
I was talking about magical/scifi actual sex changes not HRT and castration

[Anonymous No.22675558]

>>22675435
I cannot think of a single game with lore more ignorable than League of Legends

[Anonymous No.22675627]

>>22675401
>Autistic coomer can't help but write smut because he doesn't understand women
Color me surprised

[Anonymous No.22675639]

>>22675377
The quiet kid with the cleft lip that Clover starts teaching swordsmanship to. Rikke has a vision of the two of them toward the end of the book.

[Anonymous No.22675650]

>>22675627
Zero smut written, anon.

[Anonymous No.22675652]

>>22674474

[Anonymous No.22675675]

>>22674588
Jesus Fucking Christ, this is the worst writing I've ever seen here, even worse than the perpetually spammed chinkshit.

[Anonymous No.22675762]

>>22675675
What's so bad about it
Can't be worse than the first chapter of RI

[Anonymous No.22675763]

Any books with brown waifus? Asking for my racist grandpa

[Anonymous No.22675848]

>>22675762
Nta, stopped reading at 'girl' in second sentence. It seems modern protags cannot literally take a single step, cannot live two seconds of their life without there being female around

[Anonymous No.22675855]

>>22675848
they are literally half of the world's population.

[Anonymous No.22675863]

>>22675762
>What's so bad about it
Other than being written at a 4th grade level? Nothing.

[Anonymous No.22675892]

>>22675848
>chuddies are deeply afraid of women
lol

[Anonymous No.22675894]

>>22675558
What other vidya has good book adaptations?

[Anonymous No.22675897]

>>22675894
Halo has some good ones

[Anonymous No.22675906]

>>22672289
It's absolutely not kino, the author is a faggot and the love interest cucks the protagonist specifically so the author can go on a tirade about how it's perfectly fine because it was her decision and he's wrong for feeling bad about it.

[Anonymous No.22675949]

>>22675906
sounds like a you problem
thanks for spoiling misery kino dipshit

[Anonymous No.22675951]

>>22675894
The GOAT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_novels#Knee_Deep_In_The_Dead

[Anonymous No.22675964]

>Looking at books based on video games
>Infinity Blade by Brandon Sanderson

[Anonymous No.22675982]

>>22675763
Wheel of Time

[Anonymous No.22675985]

>>22675435
Why does the hilt of the sword have a huge, unwieldy bladed cross sticking out of it in a way that would make it extremely hard to use?

[Anonymous No.22676018]

https://youtu.be/3rK3jn3SNp4?feature=shared
Your thoughts on BrandoSando's thoughts?

[Anonymous No.22676028]

>>22675894
Bard's Tale novels are unironically very good.
Halo, BioShock, Doom, Borderlands, Diablo novels by Richard Knaak. Final Fantasy VII: On the Way to a Smile.

[Anonymous No.22676031]

>>22675982
Perrin was brownpilled

[Anonymous No.22676115]

>They had scientists
Powerful

[Anonymous No.22676133]

>Can you guess what the title for the next one is? It's not 100% set in stone, but as of right now we are going with Dungeon Crawler Carl, Book 7. The Inevitable Ruin.

[Anonymous No.22676191]

BORN TO CANT
CONSULT IS A FUCK
鬼神 Kill Em All 4132 Year-of-the-Tusk
I Am Mandati Man
478,637,782 CULLED SRANC

[Anonymous No.22676313]

>>22672289
Man I remember reading this shit in middle school. This and Ranger's Apprentice was my go-to.

[Anonymous No.22676329]

>>22674460
Lord of the Mysteries has dogshit prose, but the world-building is godly.

[Anonymous No.22676462]

>>22676329
it's got the prose of inevitability

[Anonymous No.22676505]

>>22667433
Yes

[Anonymous No.22676508]

>>22667642
Ice by Anna Kavan
>>22667824
Herbert and Wolfe
Vance and Chiang
Wells and Asimov
Lotta ways to answer that

[Anonymous No.22676517]

>>22675848
But the MC is the girl

[Anonymous No.22676537]

>>22675892
The only argument coomers can ever come up (or ur gay)

[Anonymous No.22676542]

>>22676517
Even worse

[Anonymous No.22676755]

>>22675894
>vidya
>good book adaption

[Anonymous No.22676758]

>reading The Way of Kings
>get to the Jasnah and Shallan bathing chapter
MY COCKA

[Anonymous No.22676759]

>>22676755
He's just trolling for the copypasta.

[Anonymous No.22676831]

>have dream that GRRM has announced TWoW in a cryptic manner

Let's see if I'm right today

[Anonymous No.22676842]

>>22676831
I had a dream that I had an overweight kind of busted gf. Honestly, pretty comfy.

[Anonymous No.22676890]

>>22670760
I agree. The first half was better than the last

[Anonymous No.22676947]

>have dream that /sffg/ is visited by experienced and knowledgable hardcore readers

I see that I was not right today.

[Anonymous No.22677010]

>>22667655
Off of the strength of the title alone I shall read the first chapter.

[Anonymous No.22677024]

>>22672162
>>22672490
Thanks for the recs!
Was thinking of reading some Averoigne stuff, because despite it seeming like medieval stuff is given in fantasy, you dont see it to much in either howard or lovecraft or the weird tales stuff.

[Anonymous No.22677162]

>>22676947
>hardcore reader
Come back after you've finished highschool

[Anonymous No.22677171]

>>22677162
sorry meant for >>22676831

[Anonymous No.22677196]

My recent sci-fi pick ups lately:
Valis Trilogy-PKD
The Green Brain-Frank Herbert
The Day After Tomorrow-Heinlen
World out of Time-Nevin
The Changeling- A. E. van Vogt
The Stars Like Dust-Asimov

I've only read Valis in an indivudual volume years and years ago so I'll probably re-read it since I barely remember it outside of the main stuff involving Horselover Fat and the Roman empire then read the other two in the trilogy. I've at least read a book by every author there except for Vongt and Niven who are new to me I've been wanting to get into Vongt for a while after discovering one of his titles influenced a character name in Berserk.

[Anonymous No.22677310]

>>22667505
1 stars: 2
5 stars: 3
2 stars: 4
4 stars: 5
3 stars: 6

[Anonymous No.22677329]

>>22676462
Idiocy.

[Anonymous No.22677341]

>>22676018
It's mostly the thoughts of TOR management. At least they're honest saying that debut authors need to be in the top 2% of all authors to break out these days. Overall it's a decent overview of the state of the industry. Funny how management doesn't care about audiobooks, but since they sell so well they just have deal with it.

[Anonymous No.22677344]

>>22676947
You will not be satisfied with any day, nor should you be. It's time to move on.

[Anonymous No.22677346]

>>22676758
Such is the power of imagination. Far greater than reality does it create.

[Anonymous No.22677347]

>>22674380
Done. Am I supposed to be impressed?
Troon family conquers the space made me smirk.

[Anonymous No.22677349]

>>22667433
No, because you deserve nothing for spoiling.

[Anonymous No.22677352]

>>22677347
You have a bad attitude and that makes everyone dislike you.

[Anonymous No.22677368]

>>22676759
Aren't we all doing that in some way?

[Anonymous No.22677371]

>>22677352
Unfortunately "Space is danger and disease wrapped in darkness and silence" and "In space no one can hear you scream." There's nothing to settle in the Solar System and other stars are unreachable. I guess I should just go full retard and start reading fantasy books.
>You have a bad attitude and that makes everyone dislike you.
More news at eleven.

[Anonymous No.22677372]

>>22676890
>>22670760
I considered reading while it was a book of the month. I guess I'll wait a while now.

[Anonymous No.22677402]

>>22674380
>>22677352
this is why you shouldn't engage with people who are simultaneously whining about everything and asking for recommendations

[Anonymous No.22677523]

>Are you really expecting me to be impressed by a book that isn't [my first genreslop for adults that I read during my formative early teens]?

[Anonymous No.22677545]

>>22677024
>because despite it seeming like medieval stuff is given in fantasy, you dont see it to much in either howard or lovecraft or the weird tales stuff.
You clearly haven't read either of both if you think that
Besides Aquilonia literally being medieval france howard wrote countless tales set in the middle ages, and the medieval era is a huge influence on lovecraft
Retard

[Anonymous No.22678271]

Progression fantasy's fascinating to me, genre with such an obvious appeal and yet hardly anyone writing it can produce a series that stays readable throughout.
Almost always fucked up either by scaling up too fast or by having some cheat that trivializes everything. Although it's a majority webnovel/self-pub genre its not like editing is the main problem the stories just are doomed from the concept stage.

[Anonymous No.22678329]

>>22678324
>>22678324
>>22678324

[Anonymous No.22678650]

>>22677372
It's definitely worth read, and not very long