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[Anonymous No.22601218]

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[Anonymous No.22601227]

Tai'Shar Manetheren!

[Anonymous No.22601230]

Bakker
Is
King

[Anonymous No.22601234]

Repostin': Does Maithanet have the ability to realise Kellhus is a fraud? He is part Dunyain, after all?

[Anonymous No.22601235]

>>22601218
Is The Poppy War any good? Was gonna buy some stuff on amazon and thinking of ordering it too

[Anonymous No.22601238]

Reposting from last thread until I figure out what this was called.

There was this fantasy series written by some woman that was set on a planet orbiting a red dwarf star that was in a perpetual ice age... I can't remember the title but the setting sounded interesting.

They're fairly old books I think, 70s, 80s to 90s I think.

Sound familiar to anyone?

[Anonymous No.22601240]

>>22601235
ya shite

[Anonymous No.22601243]

>>22601240
?? Make sense nig

[Anonymous No.22601248]

Whatever happened to birdboi?

[Anonymous No.22601255]

>>22601235
My thoughts
>>/lit/thread/20102516#p20103683
Most common /sffg/ rating is 3 stars, with some higher and some lower.

[Anonymous No.22601259]

>>22601234
bakkerbros I need to know...

[Anonymous No.22601264]

>>22601255
Looking back over what I wrote, I should note that I did look at her later work and didn't care to read any of it. I won't be trying to read anything else from her other than the stories she translates from Chinese.

[Anonymous No.22601279]

>>22601238
You're going to have to give more details than that if you expect an answer.

[Anonymous No.22601281]

>>22601218
should i read The Aspect-Emperor if i got spoiled that the Great Ordeal ultimately fails?

[Anonymous No.22601291]

>>22601281
The Unholy Consult is extinct.

[Anonymous No.22601302]

>>22601255
Fuck it. I'm just going to order some guy gavriel kay book

[Anonymous No.22601308]

>>22601302
Lol under heaven is not even selling on amazon

[Anonymous No.22601369]

>>22601238
sounds like something by CJ Cherryh, maybe Sunfall?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._J._Cherryh_bibliography

[Anonymous No.22601541]

thoughts on pic related?

[Anonymous No.22601587]

Post books where every main character dies

[Anonymous No.22601604]

>>22601587
>not spoiling image
Unclear if malicious, idiotic, or both.

[Anonymous No.22601614]

>>22601235
I didn't care for it. I found the real world historical parallels extremely heavy handed and with a deliberate bent that was impossible to ignore. Also it was so obviously written by a lesbian that I'm not even going to research the author to justify this impression of her.

[Anonymous No.22601615]

>faggots are intentionally posting spoilers now
Edgy

[Anonymous No.22601632]

>Spoiling a book released 30 years ago

[Anonymous No.22601642]

>everybody has read every book ever released therefore spoilers don't matter

[Anonymous No.22601646]

>>22601632
>having the criterion be age rather than popularity
Why?

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.22601658]

>>22601218
Empire of Silence, Sun Eater #1 - Christopher Ruocchio (2018)

Empire of Silence is an autobiographical novel told from the perspective of the protagonist at roughly a thousand years old. I assume that's after the entire series has concluded. Each book seems to cover an era of his life, which I take to mean that the series ought to be considered as a single work split into several books.

In 16136 Hadrian Marlowe is the eldest son of the ruler of a planetary prefecture of the planet Delos, which is part of the Sollan Empire. The Empire is the largest polity, composed of roughly 250 million worlds, nearly half of all that have been colonized. Humanity has come across 49 intelligent species and has enslaved 48 of them. Only the Cielcin have been able to resist and so humanity has waged war against them for centuries.

Hadrian has no interest in being the next ruler, or in being anything one has told him to be. He wants to be an adventurer, like those in the stories he's read from ages long ago, finding new species and whatever marvels that still remain unfound throughout the galaxy. That doesn't go quite to plan and he finds himself stranded on some world. The rest of the book is the beginning of his rise from almost nothing except his genetic heritage, which is extremely valuable, and a few symbols of his past.

This novel is a reworking of many novels and other specific creative works. The foremost among them that I was reminded of was Dune, Hyperion, and The Shadow of the Torturer. These are excellent choices, but often I felt that Ruocchio was leaning too heavily on other works. There doubtlessly were several other inspirations that I didn't recognize. I would be highly interested in seeing how much of the content was based on other books and how much was original, insofar as that exists. If I enjoyed this more, then perhaps I wouldn't have minded as much. I wouldn't want that to be true, but cognitive dissonance is a powerful force. If this were an obvious parody or otherwise declared itself to be based on other novels, then I think I wouldn't have minded anywhere as much.

I don't think I would've enjoyed this all that more even if it were wholly without any of its arguable homages. I find that to be peculiar because there's so very much of this that I should like. Yet, somehow I find the whole to be so much less than the sum of its parts. I believe the two main reasons are that I find how it reads to be off-putting and I was uninterested in almost every single character in this character-driven novel.

I don't know if the following books are similar to this one and I'm uninterested in finding out. I doubt that I'll read anything from Ruocchio again. The main reason is because of how openly and intentionally he integrates his influences into what he's written here. It's not fanfiction and it's certainly not what Quentin Rowan did, but it's sufficient to be disqualifying for me.

Rating: 2.5/5

Ratings Contest Book #2

[Anonymous No.22601666]

>>22601658
This has to be your lowest rating ever.

[Anonymous No.22601676]

>>22601658
/sffg/ ratings
5 stars: 5
4 stars: 6
3 stars: 1
2 stars: 2

This was one of the most read series in 2022, so I thought I'd try it. It didn't work for me.

[Anonymous No.22601681]

>>22601658
finally your shit taste correctly rates a shit book

[Anonymous No.22601693]

>>22601658
Your "reviews" are AWESOME! Please keep posting them!

[Anonymous No.22601696]

>>22601666
Not even close. I've given out plenty of 1s and a lot of 2s. My overall average on Goodreads is currently 2.99.

>>22601681
Even a broken clock can be right and so on.

[Anonymous No.22601737]

>>22601279
Uhhh... The initial settlers came on a space ship... There's... a large wall of ice cutting people off from exploring the rest of the planet... I think...

[Anonymous No.22601761]

>>22601369
Nah... that's not it I don't think. The sun/planet had a specific name that lent to the title of the series of books iirc.

[Anonymous No.22601772]

>>22601541
Haven't read the whole thing but I remember them as pretty solid somewhat spooky read for a kid. I might. reread the whole thing someday

[Anonymous No.22601780]

>>22601772
>spooky

[Anonymous No.22601800]

>>22601761
Darkover?

[Anonymous No.22601809]

>>22601800
That sounds about right actually. Yup that's the one! Thanks m8.

[Anonymous No.22601821]

>>22601800
>>22601809
>The series is known for its complex world-building and exploration of themes such as gender, sexuality, and mental illness.

Yeah, this was definitely written by a gash, holee shiiiit...

[Anonymous No.22601892]

>>22601234
Isn't it exactly what happened moments before he gets WHITELUCKED.com?

[Anonymous No.22601933]

>>22601809
You're welcome
>>22601821
She was outed as a pedo after she died too which explains the amount of age gap relationships in her books lol

[Anonymous No.22601972]

>>22601933
Looks like she helped her husband rape kids he was open supporter of pederasty and an active member of NAMBLA hoo boy...

[Anonymous No.22601986]

It was a different time.

[Anonymous No.22602156]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.22602161]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

[Anonymous No.22602276]

>>22601281
How can you be spoiled a foregone conclusion? Even Kellhus says as much at several points.

[Anonymous No.22602290]

>Great Ordeal fails

>all inchoroi dead
>all dragons dead
>all consult dead
>Zeum: IN
>Witches: IN
>Nonmen: IN
>Scylvendi: IN
>Kellus' pureblooded dunyain grandson: IN
>Seswatha reborn in Akka: IN
The fuck's No-G*d gonna do, just spam zerglings?

[Anonymous No.22602337]

>>22602290
>Scylvendi: IN
on whose side, dipshit?

[Anonymous No.22602573]

>started reading Ghost of the Truthseeker
>the first bad guy mc has to kill is called Jamal
What did the author meant by this?

[Anonymous No.22602591]

>>22602573
No, Jamal. YOU be trippin'.

[Anonymous No.22602593]

>>22602573
Shiiet

[Anonymous No.22602599]

What are you reading anons? Are you having fun?

[Anonymous No.22602604]

>>22602290
sheonanra is still alive, probably
the dunsult are still alive
zeum is weak and would get btfo by the sranc
witches, kayutas, and serwe are alive, ok
nonmen are all nuts, pretty much a liability
scylvendi are a wild card depends on how insane moenghus is
crabicus is a wild card
akka, esme and mimara and kellhus's grandson, ok
kellhus is also somewhere

it's a 50/50, if the dunsult figure out how more of the ark's tech works it could be really bad

[Anonymous No.22602606]

>>22602599
My own book. No not fun.

[Anonymous No.22602626]

>>22602599
Currently reading the Eyes of the Overworld. I have to say, Vance’s prose, or rather his writing, seems to have matured in its own right. It seems as if it has gained its own soul, and now I know why so many people acclaim Vance for his work.

The Dying Earth is a surprisingly comedic saga, something I had not expected for a fantasy work as praised by George Fatman himself.

[Anonymous No.22602695]

>>22602599
Martial World, Divine Rune City. The quality had reached another stage of advancement once Lin Ming got to the Asura Road.

[Anonymous No.22602829]

>sci-fi cultivation
Has anyone read this?
I just bought it, it was only $2.99, not sure what to expect, though.

[Anonymous No.22602848]

>>22602599
I finished reading The Expanse vol. 1. It was fun.
Now I'm looking for harem self insert books because I want to feel good.

[Anonymous No.22602891]

Anyone tried the joe abercrombie the blade itself series? I read the first book and it was okay but didn't really grab me, does it pick up in the next one?

[Anonymous No.22602938]

>>22602891
don't make post the pasta, anon.

[Anonymous No.22602946]

>>22602891
Great posts anon, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Any books like LOTR?? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker?? Any books with incest?

[Anonymous No.22602947]

there it is
*dabs*

[Anonymous No.22602952]

If the pasta just contained the answers to the questions instead the questions probably wouldn't be posted so often anymore.

[Anonymous No.22602955]

I think you overestimate the average IQ of the people asking those type of questions.

[Anonymous No.22602982]

Lads I'm a depressed wage cuck
I don't have much in my life except reading books after work
Please stop with the intentional spoilers
I want to finish aspect-emperor as fresh as possible
Please bros

[Anonymous No.22603031]

>>22602982
Stop reading posts about books you haven't finished then. I find it easy enough and I'm basically retarded so I'm sure you can manage.

[Anonymous No.22603046]

How do I fucking magically not see the posts that have spoilers in them, genius?

[Anonymous No.22603074]

>>22603046
filter any post with specific words?

[Anonymous No.22603087]

If you were to republish the 6 Dune novels how would you do it?
6 different books
2 books with 3-3
The original tetralogy and the incomplete trilogy 4-2
All in one compendium like the Earthsea novels
None with illustrations, of course.
Maybe Mesiah and Children together?

[Anonymous No.22603109]

>>22603087
fuck omnibuses, fuck 2-in-1s, fuck it all. 6 individual PAPERBACK books with 6 cool covers or sucka my dick. i hate books that are clearly not made for people to read them, like the publisher sold them with "home library" decorating faggots in mind rather than actual readers. And I don't want tight bindings. I want easy, loose, floppy Wordsworth classics tier glue binding.

[Anonymous No.22603256]

>>22601614
>Also it was so obviously written by a lesbian that I'm not even going to research the author to justify this impression of her.
She simps for white dudes

[Anonymous No.22603292]

[Anonymous No.22603400]

[Anonymous No.22603599]

Finally had enough free time to finish the Art of War trilogy by Richard Swan. The final book was pretty good, but not a fun read. Pretty much just a constant downward spiral. The ending left me pretty empty. I don't read much sci fi, but I fully enjoyed the trilogy and happy I gave it a chance.

[Anonymous No.22603622]

>>22601658
that book is pure trash, I binned it.

[Anonymous No.22603650]

Had to use my potion of animal speaking to talk to those Gith in the Monastery

[Anonymous No.22603684]

>>22602599
Blood Music. No, I haven't had fun in years. What? You mean having fun READING? NO You fucking MORON.

[Anonymous No.22603686]

>>22602290
>all inchoroi dead
>all dragons dead
>all consult dead
Dropped the series halfway through the Aspect Emperor books when I learned this shit offhand through the internet. Why even fucking BOTHER finishing it?

[Anonymous No.22603689]

Autumn is coming and I want to feel the melancholy of dying earth, to experience the time before or after the end. Anything modern, science fantasy that follows in the footsteps of Vance or Wolfe?

[Anonymous No.22603693]

How do we cleanse /sffg/ of the Xianxia/cultivation subhuman scourge? I'm so fucking sick and tired of hearing about this garbage being endlessly spammed here.

[Anonymous No.22603697]

>>22602891
They keep getting better, and his later books outside that trilogy keep improving too. Keep going.

[Anonymous No.22603700]

>>22602952
>>22602955
>>22603046
>He doesn't know how to properly @ other anons
Welcome, newfaggot

[Anonymous No.22603706]

>>22602982
Too late. Consult has been dead for ages, lmao. It was ruined for me so it might as well be ruined for you too. That nigger Bakker is never going to start or finish the No-God series anyway lmfao.

[Anonymous No.22603727]

>>22603650
>Gith only appear in two (2) forgotten realms novels and they are males.
How i am supposed to get my gith gf fix now?

[Anonymous No.22603728]

Hey I just started reading Malazan and I was wondering if you need read the Esslemont books to appreciate good, you opened this message. This isn't a Malazan reader, they're all busy discussing Forge of the High Mage.

[Anonymous No.22603741]

>>22601218
first time on lit. lads recommend me something scifi, i've read somewhat recently:
>the expanse series
>founfation trilogy
>hyperion
>first three dune books (didn't like it at all)
>3 neuromancer books
>snow crash
>couple wh40k ig books
>firefall
>the swarm
>number of heinlein books i can only vaguely remember

[Anonymous No.22603742]

How do I into Stanislaw Lem if I can't speak polish?

[Anonymous No.22603743]

What was that book where this dude is a time traveller and is sent back to Vietnam or something? It's supposed to be really good

[Anonymous No.22603747]

>>22603741
J.S. Dewes
Becky Chambers

The Murderbot Diaries if you want pulp and are on the autistic spectrum so you can relate to the protagonist.

[Anonymous No.22603748]

>>22603742
Get translated copies of his book? Duh

[Anonymous No.22603755]

>>22603741
Vernor Vinge, A Fire Upon the Deep
Alfred Bester, The Stars My Destination

[Anonymous No.22603757]

>>22603743
I feel like you're misremembering Forever War?

[Anonymous No.22603759]

>want more recs for victorian era scifi
>get LE EPIC STEAMPUNK BOOKS RECOMMENDATION
reeee I just want more shit like Vernes and Wells

[Anonymous No.22603761]

>>22603759
Write your own.

[Anonymous No.22603764]

>>22603761
I was born after the victorian era, so it wouldn't be genuine

[Anonymous No.22603816]

Is it true Frankenstein invented the entire genre?

[Anonymous No.22603822]

>>22603697
Thanks

[Anonymous No.22603826]

>>22603764
In the advent of AI, genetically modified kids and adventurer billionaires competing in conquering the space, you can write genuine scifi like Verne, maybe even clone queen Victoria

[Anonymous No.22603832]

You think Queen Victoria would give that royal sloppy?

[Anonymous No.22603840]

>>22603832
Queen Victoria wouldn't, but you can use Victoria clones to fulfil other roles in your dream future, from waitresses, policegirls to strippers and housewife sloppies.

[Anonymous No.22603848]

>>22603816
No

[Anonymous No.22603851]

>>22603848
What did?

[Anonymous No.22603852]

>>22603851
Me

[Anonymous No.22603862]

>>22603851
There have been stories with themes of science fiction since the second century AD dummy. Brian Aldiss doesn't get to say that Frankenstein was the first.

[Anonymous No.22603864]

>in order to have a proper foundation i need to have read everything from the second century AD
fucking hell I don't have that kind of time

[Anonymous No.22603867]

>>22603864
No one said you had to, dingbat.

[Anonymous No.22603870]

>>22603867
In a possible first for humanity, I was being deliberately over the top for comedic effect. However my question comes from watching this video about Frankenstein, and he mentions the book references Paradise Lost, Werther and Divine Comedy, which makes me think I'm not well read enough for anything

[Anonymous No.22603878]

I torrented all of the Forgotten Realms books, and they are all I have been reading for the past year. There are over 400 novels, but I'm willing to bet only 75 or so are worth the effort.

They are pretty bad, but enjoyable, like mental junk food. I guess it's better than watching Nflix or playing Morrowind for a 15th time.

They remind me a lot of my childhood, having grown up with D&D but never diving into the source material for the game worlds. A lot of the themes and tropes would not fly today, which give me a bit of nostalgia for another era.

Any other fans of the Realms here?

[Anonymous No.22603882]

>>22603870
Nigga, science fiction and fantasy are baby mode tier "literature" there's a reason why it has its own containment thread. Just pick what looks interesting to you and READ NIGGER READ. You don't need to write a fucking dissertation on the subject.

[Anonymous No.22603884]

My PhD dissertation on why hot fantasy elves should fuck me

[Anonymous No.22603887]

>>22603878
>Reading commercial product tie-in fiction
I sincerely hope you guys don't do things like this.

[Anonymous No.22603888]

Why does twitter hate Orson Card now?

[Anonymous No.22603891]

>>22603884
Mine was on why flat chested(2000 year old) high elf archer should bare my children.

[Anonymous No.22603893]

>>22603888
I don't know about twitter, but I hate him because he's an incest obsessed Mormon degenerate who fills his books with that kind of shit

[Anonymous No.22603894]

>>22603887
The novels predate any commercial product, dolt.

[Anonymous No.22603897]

>these books set in a world created by a commercial product predate the commercial product
Oh so they're time travelling books?

[Anonymous No.22603898]

>>22603894
>Forgotten Realms books predate D&D
Absolutely slobbering retard tier opinion

[Anonymous No.22603903]

>>22603894
Dipshit

[Anonymous No.22603904]

>>22603898
>>22603903
FR existed well before TSR bought the rights to use it in D&D. FR was created in 1967 you mental midgets.

[Anonymous No.22603906]

I can see why /tg/ mocks dndfags

[Anonymous No.22603908]

>>22603904
I don't into turbo virgin shit like D&D soooo....

[Anonymous No.22603912]

>>22603908
>soooo....
You type like a bitch, and I bet you take dick like one too.

[Anonymous No.22603917]

>>22603912
>Dungeons and Friendzones loser got triggered
Ya love to see it.

[Anonymous No.22603918]

>>22603689
Songs of Dying Earth

[Anonymous No.22603921]

any fantasy book that
>is finished
>have no romance or it's a very minor thing

[Anonymous No.22603924]

Why am i supossed to believe Silk and Hy are in love again? They've only met 2 times in the novel

[Anonymous No.22603927]

Romance is such a shit subplot. I refuse to read any work of science fiction with romance shit in it.

[Anonymous No.22603929]

Romance but its me with hot alien babes

[Anonymous No.22603930]

>>22603924
You'll understand once you finish Exodus.

[Anonymous No.22603934]

>>22603929
Shepard.

[Anonymous No.22603959]

Science fiction has all the philosophical worth and big ideas, why would you ever even bother with faggotsy?

[Anonymous No.22603964]

>fantasy is supposed to mean any wild crazy idea you can possibly imagine
>fantasy now just means "tolkien-like"

[Anonymous No.22603968]

>>22603693
But enough about... You know after all this time, I still don't know what the actual name of *that* full complete series is? Prince of Nothing? Isn't it two trilogies or one trilogy and another unfinished trilogy?

[Anonymous No.22603969]

>>22603964
This is why I like horror so much, it's where all the weird, creative ideas are put now that fantasy has been reduced to Tolkien clones.

[Anonymous No.22603971]

>>22603964
Hey, blame the faggotsy writers for that. Not my fault they don't have an original bone in their bodies.

[Anonymous No.22603972]

I'm a prince of nothing, I don't have shit, but you don't see me with a trilogy of books about it

[Anonymous No.22603976]

>>22603968
Funnily enough, I was going to originally include Bakker spammers in that post as well but I forgot to.

[Anonymous No.22603985]

>>22603976
>spammers
As we have stated before, there is exactly one spammer and he has been doing this for going on four years now.

[Anonymous No.22603987]

>>22603968
2nd Apocalypse, made up of one trilogy, one quarter and one as of yet unwritten batch of books

[Anonymous No.22603995]

>>22603987
>quarter
quartet *

[Anonymous No.22603998]

>>22603985
Yes, and it's incredibly pathetic and I've wished death upon him numerous times. Imagine having literally no life enough to do that kind of shit. It's absurdly cringe.

[Anonymous No.22604000]

I remember when I was 14 and going through my pretentious phase I checked out Stranger in a Strange Land and got completely filtered

[Anonymous No.22604013]

>>22603998
I think it's less about having "no life" and more about being severely mentally impaired and developmentally stunted to the point where he genuinely cannot comprehend, over four years, that other people do not want to discuss and worship what -he likes- every second of every minute of every hour of every day of this general. Honestly I get butthurt when people don't check out the books I enjoy but I sure as shit don't disrupt and ruin the entire thread over an autistic tantrum because of it. I do agree with everything else in your post.

[Anonymous No.22604019]

>>22603964
That's why I stick with webnovels

[Anonymous No.22604020]

Just started Malazan... What am I in for /lit/bros???

[Anonymous No.22604022]

>>22603971
Nah, it's not the fault of the writers. The writers are just trying to make ends meet. The readers are to blame for making that shit financially viable.

[Anonymous No.22604025]

>>22604013
I'm starting to believe he's actually Bakker himself just shilling his own bullshit/shitposting and generally just avoiding starting/finishing the No-God series.

[Anonymous No.22604030]

>>22604022
I enjoy Tolkien well enough to the point that I don't want to read anything else that apes off of his stuff.

[Anonymous No.22604032]

I miss the times when you had to consistenly shitpost for ten years before being called a spammer. Newfags are too sensitive now.

[Anonymous No.22604036]

>>22604025
Bakker, Cuckfuss, Martin and Lynch all post on /sffg/, mostly about themselves

[Anonymous No.22604037]

I miss the times when newfags didn't create arbitrary criteria for their new view on how the website operates and functions.

[Anonymous No.22604039]

>>22604037
I miss when you could make JoJo references unironically

[Anonymous No.22604048]

>>22604036
I wouldn't doubt that even for a second

[Anonymous No.22604051]

>>22604039
Can't critique it any more either now that it's mainstream mega popular, even though it's always been full of messy illustrations and outright asspull plotlines.

[Anonymous No.22604053]

>>22604032
People get sick of your shit after four straight years of you doing it nonstop?

Stop the fucking presses...

[Anonymous No.22604063]

>>22604051
It was always stupid nonsense, but it was MY stupid nonsense

[Anonymous No.22604068]

Best Black Company novel?

[Anonymous No.22604086]

>>22603985
>Relative timestamp
Fucking gross, dude. How do you operate like that?
I swear the only people who use relative time are spammers themselves, who want to disguise just how old their screenshots are.

[Anonymous No.22604091]

>>22604068
The first one

[Anonymous No.22604100]

Is Wolfe any good

[Anonymous No.22604101]

>>22603878
>Any other fans of the Realms here?
Yes, me. It's like playing an crpg but without having to spend 60+ hours to beat it. I love the Harper series and the Finder's Stone trilogy

[Anonymous No.22604104]

Balders's troons get the rope

[Anonymous No.22604110]

>>22603893
wtf I love him now

[Anonymous No.22604112]

>>22604086
It's a LOT less mental math when I'm taking a quick look to see when the last response was. I'd say it arose in reaction to the creation and existence of generals, and the overall increased userbase and activity of the website.

[Anonymous No.22604127]

>>22604020
Long trip that sadly peaked early. Coltain is the best part.

[Anonymous No.22604129]

>>22603832
No but Eleanor of Aquitaine did. She had sex with her uncle, saracens, cheated on her first husband with a man 13 years younger than her then married him and probably fucked at least one of her sons.

[Anonymous No.22604130]

>>22603917
>Loses argument
>"I bet you don't even have sex"
>"Sooooo….."

Anon your transition is going well. I bet you pass, if you're freshly shaved and it's last call at the local watering hole.

[Anonymous No.22604136]

>>22604112
Yeah if you are r*ddit tranny

[Anonymous No.22604137]

>>22604101
FR needs more side boob.

I've heard great things about the finders stone trilogy. I just read the first book in The Haunted Lands series by Richard Lee Byers. It was a nice change of pace from Salvatore, but a little convoluted. I'll probably stick with it just to learn more Szass Tam.

[Anonymous No.22604145]

>>22603888
> Why does twitter hate Orson Card now?
Now? It's been like that for some time.

Apparently, from what other authors have said about him, he used to be a kind, compassionate, agnostic man, and if you read his earlier works that completely fits. But then his son died and it broke him. He retreated into the childhood religion he had rejected for solace and became a fag-hating, religious fanatic and general all-around nutjob.

[Anonymous No.22604148]

>>22604145
So a normal person?

[Anonymous No.22604149]

>>22604129
bros...

[Anonymous No.22604161]

>>22604148
normal for 4chan

[Anonymous No.22604165]

>>22604136
Wow! A generic 2016+ ChatGPT newfag response! You even self-censor like an underage faggot.

[Anonymous No.22604172]

>>22604161
Normal outside of twitter

[Anonymous No.22604208]

>>22604165
Chatgpt did not exist in 2016+

[Anonymous No.22604214]

>>22604208
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.22604218]

>>22604137
>FR needs more side boob
>I've heard great things about the finders stone trilogy
You are in luck because the mc has a side boob chainmail. For me Finder's Stone is the quintessential d&d party adventure experience, amnesiac protagonist, band of misfits that don't know what the fuck they are doing and just bump into everything and lots of banter.
>The Haunted Lands series by Richard Lee Byers. It was a nice change of pace from Salvatore, but a little convoluted.
It's slow paced compared to RAS but there's some nice necromancer action on Book three. Byers also wrote Brotherhood Of the Griffon, a spinoff series about some characters from the haunted lands series that is much more fast paced.
>I'll probably stick with it just to learn more Szass Tam.
Szass shows up in Red Magic and "The Crimson Gold" too.

[Anonymous No.22604227]

>>22603893
>incest obsessed
What type of incest? This is important

[Anonymous No.22604231]

https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/bakker/
It's funny because you can immediately tell which posts are his from a brief glimpse and scroll. It's all the same spergery.

[Anonymous No.22604235]

>>22604227
Last thing of his I tried to read it was from the first sentence a thing between cousins

[Anonymous No.22604252]

>>22604020

[Anonymous No.22604265]

>>22604145
>became a fag-hating, religious fanatic and general all-around nutjob.
holy based. His writing must be fantastic now. I'm going to check out his newer stuff.

[Anonymous No.22604277]

>>22601230
Bakker is Grand Duke.

[Anonymous No.22604289]

>>22604218
>Finder's Stone is the quintessential d&d party adventure experience

I'll definitely check it out then, as that is what drew me to FR novels to begin with. Thanks for the recs Anon.

Have you read the Cleric Quintet? I've heard that it is also closer to a D&D party experience than something like a Drizzt or Elminster novel.

[Anonymous No.22604342]

>>22603741
Greg Egan, Permutation City
Adam Roberts, Jack Glass

[Anonymous No.22604432]

>>22604227
>chest moles
You can't be serious

[Anonymous No.22604441]

>>22604289
>Have you read the Cleric Quintet? I've heard that it is also closer to a D&D party experience than something like a Drizzt or Elminster novel.
Yes, and it is true, Cleric Quintet feels more focused than the early drizzt novel and it's very newcomer friendly.
Also strong female monk romance

[Anonymous No.22604458]

>>22604145
>became a fag-hating, religious fanatic and general all-around nutjob.
Nice.

[Anonymous No.22604475]

How exactly do you fight a giant tornado?

[Anonymous No.22604480]

>>22604475
Piss on it probably

[Anonymous No.22604485]

>>22604480
Congratulations. You now have the same problem, but with piss.

[Anonymous No.22604497]

>>22601234
No. Not only is he a half dunyain, but Maithanet didn't bother with the metaphysics of sorcery. So not only is he less astute than Kellhus, but he also has less to go on in terms of apprehending the Onta.

[Anonymous No.22604505]

>>22604485
You don't know that. You should see how hard he can pee.

[Anonymous No.22604506]

>>22604475
Just shoot it lmao

[Anonymous No.22604518]

>>22604505
Y-yeah! This!

[Anonymous No.22604521]

Did Bakker watch Prometheus before writing that last disaster of a book?

[Anonymous No.22604524]

>>22604506
I mean given how big the world is and that tornado travels slow in comparison, No-God's reign would at best be an occasional menace to some settlements

[Anonymous No.22604540]

>>22604524
He places antibaby debuff on all living wombs so humanity would die out within a few decades, plus everyone lives in constant awareness and terror of his presence

[Anonymous No.22604552]

Stations of the Tide any good?

[Anonymous No.22604556]

>>22604540
I thought that only happens on the day he appears

[Anonymous No.22604589]

>>22604556
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure he's omnipresent at all times, there's something in the books about how no matter which part of the world, all men had the perfect knowledge of his direction, dude's like a compass

[Anonymous No.22604631]

I keep forgetting that technology in Earwa is similar to that of the first crusade, so that whenever Bakker writes about armor, especially for the noble classes, he really means chainmail.

[Anonymous No.22604646]

>>22604475
Run around it super fast in the opposite direction of the funnel.

[Anonymous No.22604677]

Gonna cry?

[Anonymous No.22604708]

>>22601658
but my favorite booktuber loved it, anon!

[Anonymous No.22604722]

>>22604441
>Danica
I was surprised by the fact she's NOT eye candy and is actually a competent monk.

[Anonymous No.22604733]

What novels do have JRPG feeling?

[Anonymous No.22604747]

>>22604733
Belgariad.

[Anonymous No.22604807]

>>22604747
Isn't Belgariad some of the most archetypal fantasy out there?

[Anonymous No.22604825]

>>22604807
That's... that's what JRPGs are.

[Anonymous No.22604856]

>>22604807
>JRPG scum whines about "archetypical fantasy"
lol, lmao.

[Anonymous No.22604869]

>>22601541
Not sure how much it holds up as an adult, but I really liked those when I was younger.

[Anonymous No.22604977]

>>22604068
The 2nd one

[Anonymous No.22604991]

Just ordered The Blade Itself. What to expect bros

[Anonymous No.22605000]

I am reading Blindsight at the moment. I like some of the ideas, but I just cannot respect the prose.

[Anonymous No.22605011]

>>22605000
I am sorry for you lack of taste anon.

[Anonymous No.22605016]

>>22605011
What is the bad taste? That I like the ideas, or do not enjoy the prose?

[Anonymous No.22605017]

>>22605000
>LOL DUDE, REBORN VAMPIRES IN SPACE!!!
It's fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.22605022]

>>22604807
It has milfs therefore it's kino

[Anonymous No.22605025]

Are you guys my friends...?

[Anonymous No.22605028]

>>22605022
She is a milf in spirit as she doesn't age past maturity. Would still impregnate.

[Anonymous No.22605029]

>>22605025
Only if you like dino fantasy

[Anonymous No.22605031]

>>22605000
There is not a single sentence worth reading twice. It's the equivalent of a TED Talk in book form.

[Anonymous No.22605032]

>>22604708
There's no problem with that at all. It's only a problem if their opinions become your opinion without any consideration at all. Parasociality is to be avoided.

Yes, I know.

[Anonymous No.22605037]

>>22605017
>>22605031
>Ask for rec
>Buy it
>Get told it is shit after the fact

[Anonymous No.22605040]

>>22605037
Welcome to /lit/ thanks for playing.

[Anonymous No.22605046]

>>22605016
I found the prose perfectly fitting for the story. Cold and sterile, full of sharp-edged technical terms, as appropriate for a cosmic horror where even the humans are barely so.
As a STEMfag I can also respect that the terms are for the most part used correctly.

[Anonymous No.22605050]

>>22605028
Yes, She's like moiraine, she looks like she's in her thirties but acts like a cranky grandma

[Anonymous No.22605079]

>>22605000
Watts' prose is significantly better than that of the vast majority of genre fiction writers.

[Anonymous No.22605098]

>>22605079
Grim.

[Anonymous No.22605104]

>>22605037
Develop taste, scum.

[Anonymous No.22605106]

>>22605079
lol, lmao.

[Anonymous No.22605108]

>>22605000
im a psychfag irl and it does a great job at demonstrating subjectivity, a complete subjective individual viewpoint

[Anonymous No.22605162]

Maithanet vs Euron Greyjoy vs Griffith

Who wins? All are at full power

[Anonymous No.22605166]

>>22605022
>>22605050
Why do ageless or age suspended via magic female characters never get wiser? They just become bitchier with time.

[Anonymous No.22605170]

>>22605046
Especially considering it comes from POV of a protagonist missing half his brain.

[Anonymous No.22605178]

>>22604441
When Salvatore described her as having almond eyes and dark hair, I knew she was best girl

[Anonymous No.22605195]

>>22602599
The Shadow Rising
I'm enjoying it for the most part but some of the valleys in the pacing are excruciating in my opinion. Especially the exposition dump about the Jenn Aiel, it was only 20 pages long but it felt like 40 at least.

[Anonymous No.22605206]

>>22605166
The nature of women is far less equipped for immortality when compared to their male counterparts.

[Anonymous No.22605263]

>>22605166
Women only ever gain the opportunity for wisdom when their beauty is all but gone, and even then many continue to rebel against father time. Expecting a female character whose beauty never fades to be anything but a bitch is downright laughable.

[Anonymous No.22605336]

>>22604129
gods i love french women..

[Anonymous No.22605580]

This is my first post here.
Please, like me.

[Anonymous No.22605592]

>>22605580
I'm going to KILL YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING FAMILY for posting here you fucking FAGGOT.

[Anonymous No.22605611]

If your favorite character is Matrim Cauthon, that's a huge red flag.

[Anonymous No.22605631]

>>22605580
Welcome to sffg, here's your complementary copy of Prince of Nothing

[Anonymous No.22605667]

>>22605631
Faggot scum cocksucker, leave the newbie alone with your homoerotic trash series

[Anonymous No.22605673]

>>22605611
this but ironically

[Anonymous No.22605690]

Any recommendations for quality adventure fantasy? Something in the vain of Dragonlance or the Drizzt books but with better prose?

[Anonymous No.22605695]

>>22605580
Hello anon
Who are your favourite fantasy authors

[Anonymous No.22605743]

Almost done with the age of madness trilogy, have a feeling im gonna hate the ending. What should i read next, preferably similar?

[Anonymous No.22605771]

>>22605611
Re-reading the dragon reborn, there's a detail about Mat's fight with Gawyn and Galad that I never considered before: He gambled on it. He wagered coin on it. I was so focused on his sudden skill with the quarterstaff, that I never considered his luck had already kicked in, chapters before the book emphasizes it. I mean, sure, his skill does come out of nowhere. But at the same time, he got lucky during the fight. He's not *that* good.

[Anonymous No.22605793]

How to force yourself to finish a really boring book?

[Anonymous No.22605807]

>>22605793
drop it

[Anonymous No.22605814]

>>22605793
You don't. You drop it into the fucking trash and don't look back. Life is too short to waste it on a shitty book.

[Anonymous No.22605842]

>>22601658
I agree with you. The copying from other writers is so extreme as to be distasteful. Hell, the ending of the book is a straight copy of the ending of Shadow of the Torturer. Combine this with mediocre writing and uninteresting characters, it’s shit.

[Anonymous No.22605876]

>>22605611
only neckbeards like mat

[Anonymous No.22605877]

>>22605842
One of the reasons for the copying is that I saw in an interview that the author doesn't like reading except for his few favorite series, which he rereads over and over again. So, it's only natural that that's how it is. Maybe that's fitting for here since a lot of times it's the same series over and over by a similar sort of reader.

[Anonymous No.22605899]

>>22605877
>that that

[Anonymous No.22605946]

What's the best war in all of science fiction?

[Anonymous No.22605950]

>>22605876
My beard is entirely on my chin and cheeks, and I like Mat.

[Anonymous No.22605969]

>>22605771
He actually is pretty good, though, his dad always won at quarterstaff during Bel Tine, and Mat was presumably his main practicing partner since he was old enough to put up a fight. It was just never emphasized on, since Mat's other traits are more important for establishing his character.

[Anonymous No.22605991]

>>22605946
The star war

[Anonymous No.22605998]

>>22605991
Legitimate cringe. Holy shit. Neck yourself Star Wars tranny.

[Anonymous No.22606006]

If you wanted to make the most money possible while totally destroying your soul, what would you write, fantasy-wise?

[Anonymous No.22606011]

>>22606006
Epic sword and sorcery Tolkien copypaste fantasy, DUH.

[Anonymous No.22606017]

>>22605195
This is the reason why Shadow Rising isn't one of my favorite books. That whole Aiel backstory really grinds the story to a halt, imo. Perrin and Mat's side of the story were much more interesting

[Anonymous No.22606018]

>>22604722
she's both eye-candy and one of the best female characters RAS wrote
Yes, i know she has 6 fingers in the pic, AI is still has trouble with hands sometimes

[Anonymous No.22606023]

>>22605876
I "like" Mat. But he's not someone you should relate to too much.
I bet Mat's fans have a nearly 1:1 overlap with Sam Hyde fans, if you catch my drift.

>>22605969
Yeah, but none of that is stated until the very same chapter he puts on his display. So it really just came out of nowhere.

[Anonymous No.22606027]

>>22605611
>bangs a ton of skags
>charismatic
>accidentally stumbles into becoming a war general
>beat two of the best swordsmen around
>does whatever he wants and still saves the world
Whatever you say, buddy

[Anonymous No.22606030]

>>22606018
this one is better.

[Anonymous No.22606087]

>>22605793
Finishing boring books is cuckoldry, if the book doesn't grab me wholly within 50 pages enough to invest me till the end it goes in the trash. Yes, I drop roughly 2/3 of the books I start

[Anonymous No.22606101]

Does anyone have the folio society lord of the rings edition?
Does the gold rub off?

[Anonymous No.22606172]

>>22606101
They aren't meant to be touched or be touched. They are decorative items for display purposes only.

[Anonymous No.22606189]

>>22606172
I disagree
Folio Society sell two kinds of books
The first are nice reading copies, these are the LOTR ones
The second are display pieces, these are the limited edition LOTR for examples and you can tell they're for display because of the size, they're massive and impossible to comfortably read
I'm looking for a nice reading copy but since the cover design is such a prominent feature I don't want to get it if it'll just rub off

[Anonymous No.22606196]

>>22602573
>second half of the book
>mc goes to another planet and gets negative karma
>stumbles upon a woman named Preta (Black in Portuguese)
>author describes her as a woman of a race that has extremely black skin and luminous veins
>her partner, who is rich and of the same race, acts like a retard sends the MC to prison
what did the author meant by this?

[Anonymous No.22606202]

im becoming demoralized over my attempt at using exclusively real stars to map out my story

its become impossible to tell the story i wanted to tell while taking into consideration shit like how the star i would want to use would effect everything from tidal locking to weather and type of light,

i was ok with making up planets but i feel like its going to be a total cop out if its not accurate to what life around a given star would be like, or god forbid if i say "x star system 5 lightyears from earth" and there is no such star irl. particularly since i want to name drop a few real star systems

i have an entire story planned out in detail but cant begin writing passed the first paragraph because of this autism

[Anonymous No.22606209]

>>22606202
Until you're able not to destroy yourself by thinking only about what you want rather than what readers want, you'll go nowhere.

[Anonymous No.22606215]

>>22605946
I love military science fiction but they all tend to not really focus on any long drawn out conflict per se, its usually hero focused and so you tend to get a rapid shifting of the context to keep each entry interesting. Your Honors Harrington, your Hammer's Slammers, your Phule's Company, they all tend to not really give the war an inherent character so much as focus on particular scenarios.

With that in mind of all science fiction I'm tempted to say the Dominion War from Star Trek. If only because you get a look at the war from multiple levels and philosophies, you get wild gambits, desperate attacks, great losses. You can spend an entire episode about a man having a mental breakdown over losing a leg, then you have multiple episodes where internecine conflict breaks out over a belief in guerilla warfare. You get to see proud liberal values get smudged to the point of openly creating weapons of biological mass destruction custom built to cause a genocide.

In terms of novels then a lot of my favorite wars were off-screen: Dune had the great jihad waged by the Fremen, you have an intensely personal war in Armor, the Forever War famously gives us almost no context for what's really going on until the end. I guess if I had to pick something from a book the ongoing liberal interventionism of the Culture is the most interesting because the Culture itself knows that there are almost no threats to them really, but they feel an inhuman compulsion to provide utility for their meaningless hedonism so they send their best and brightest and also their war criminals into the fray. You have a utopia that values all life with ships named Meat Fucker and Meaningless Death, its an interesting fusion of social speculation and a harsh look inward at the America of the late 20th century.

[Anonymous No.22606217]

>>22606209
what do readers want in this context?

[Anonymous No.22606218]

>>22606202
no one can eat an elephant all at once, anon. you picked a hard task. it will take a long time.

additionally, what you're trying to do with the weather is impossible. literally no one can describe the weather of any planet, even the one we're on, with any degree of accuracy more than a week into the future.

ever wondered why the 5 day forecast is only 5 days?

its ok to fudge stuff like the weather. don't let perfect get in the way of good enough.

[Anonymous No.22606231]

>>22606217
Depends on the sort of readers you're going for. In most cases the readers will care much more about anything other than the specific details. It doesn't sound like you're going after a specific idea, so that's all world building really which is more fantasy anyway. If you're only interested in impressing literally a few people then ok. If you care to have any kind of audience, then you should be concerned with the audience is concerned with. Namely characters, ideas, and cool stuff in general.

[Anonymous No.22606239]

>>22606217
what do you care what readers want? what do you want to create? don't put your life at the mercy of the illiterate masses...

I say it to you thusly: if you ask a group what it wants, you will never please them. For they did not form an opinion until you asked, and they will not give the same answer as each other. It is better to make something you believe is good, rather than what you think someone else believes is good. You cannot know their minds. This way, at the very least, you can be sure you actually know what the target is!

[Anonymous No.22606244]

>>22605162
Griffith stomps no contest, the guy controls causality

[Anonymous No.22606263]

>>22606239
Being contemptuous of your readers seems like a bad strategy to me. If you're only writing for yourself then it doesn't even really have to be self-published.

[Anonymous No.22606280]

>>22606263
I don't remember asking you. In fact, I think my advice was not to ask.

stand on your own two feet, anon. or else you'll be forced to suffer indignity after indignity, until your prized art is worn away to its smallest, most marketable denominator. Stop asking for permission to express yourself. It's your own art. Make it the way you envision it.

[Anonymous No.22606340]

>>22606280
How's that gone for you personally?

[Anonymous No.22606429]

>>22606231
the story is indeed almost entirely character focused, i never really planned on having much technical detail at all, just a focus on the characters and events unfolding in the universe

basically my problem is that my goal was to have characters moving from location to location back and fourth along a border region between two factions as shown in this shitty paint drawing, and i want it to be on a relatively small scale, but im not sure i can make that work with real life accuracy

i could whip up a map using real stars as a reference as planned, hell i can even mostly stick to using systems with confirmed exoplanets, and i guess the names of systems would (mostly} have new proper names instead of shit like "cd-44 11909" so i guess everything would all be too vague for someone to go "akchuly cd-44 11909 is a red dwarf star so technically blah blah blah". though i would include some details like the colour of plants reacting to red dwarf light and artificial magnetic field generators for more volatile solar flares

maybe im just over thinking it. the vagueness of it, new names for unnamed systems , etc all might adequately work to blur the lines and cover up all the austistic details

i guess what i want to know is, will audiences give a shit about the vagueness and realism in a heavily charachter driven and thematic story?

[Anonymous No.22606512]

>>22606429
The easiest way to answer that is to look at what's been most successful and what people like in general. Think about which books are similar to yours and what they've done.

[Anonymous No.22606531]

>reddit spacing

[Anonymous No.22606561]

>>22606531
>paragraphs are a reddit invention

[Anonymous No.22606571]

>>22604068
First one.

[Anonymous No.22606594]

>>22606512
when you put it like that, i guess there's no way i could do worse than startrek in that regard, where you have a dozen if not more full on thriving alien ecosystems within 20 lightyears of earth

[Anonymous No.22606619]

>>22606531
do you repeat this everytime you read a book with paragraphs?

[Anonymous No.22606628]

>>22603870
You don't need to understand every single small reference.

[Anonymous No.22606633]

>>22606561
>>22606619
>doesn't know what reddit spacing is
>doesn't even know what a fucking paragraph is
Go back.

[Anonymous No.22606650]

>>22606531
>>22606633
How would you know what reddit spacing is if you don't go to reddit? I sense a hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.22606652]

>>22606633
To the 2000s before reddit wormed its way into the canals of 4chan? Without chatbot newfags like you? Tell me how.

[Anonymous No.22606670]

>>22606650
The same way you know about straight sex, but choose to be a faggot instead.

[Anonymous No.22606676]

>>22606594
Books often have a lot of acknowledgements of people who helped them as well, especially if they aren't/weren't a scientist. Most successful books these days have a lot more than the author involved.

[Anonymous No.22606687]

>>22606652
Will never understand why newfags save old images to pretend they are oldfags

[Anonymous No.22606712]

Will never understand why newfags can't comprehend people having access to the internet and websites before they did

[Anonymous No.22606743]

>read the first revelation space book
>enjoy it
>ok better read the short stories i missed in chronological order before starting the next one
>get to galactic north
>it trivializes literally anything that happened in revelation space and will happen in future books
>the galaxy is consumed by the greenflies
>the inhibitors also get consumed
>nothing matters
>literally entirely irrelevant
What was Reynolds smoking when he wrote this?

[Anonymous No.22606851]

>>22606429
Don't create Aragorn's tax policy, create what's important to your story

you fucking imbecile

[Anonymous No.22606962]

>>22606215
>Star Kek
Stopped reading RIGHT there. Holy fucking SHIT /sffg/ GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!!

[Anonymous No.22607007]

>>22606023
>I bet Mat's fans have a nearly 1:1 overlap with Sam Hyde fans, if you catch my drift

Go back to whatever shithole you came from. What the fuck does the lucky prankster character have to do with some deadbeat nazi retard?

[Anonymous No.22607106]

>>22607007
Sam Hyde is a prankster character, who cultivated a super loyal fanbase of retarded redpilled conservatives. And they all inexplicably follow him due to how charismatic he is, despite his degenerate lifestyle. Or perhaps because of it.
It's just like Mat and his band. Mat inherently hates anyone involved with the one power.(and women he can't dandle on his knee) That's his version of ethnocentrism. Anyone born with the ability to channel, he wants to get away from. He even treats his own friends like Jews he can't associate with anymore. Only helping them reluctantly when they badger him into. In Boko 3, after he recovers, he literally thinks
>Even if he knew the answers, he could do nothing to help Rand. He was not sure he would if he could. Rand could channel, and Mat had grown up with stories of men channeling, stories to frighten children. Stories that frightened adults, too, because some of them were all too true. Discovering what Rand could do had been like finding out his best friend tortured small animals and killed babies. Once you finally made yourself believe it, it was hard to call him a friend any longer.

So he's actually just racist against channellers, to the point where he sees them in the same way as demons and killers, based on superstitions of his childhood. He never overcomes this prejudice throughout the story. He's just a racist guy deadbeat retard with good luck.

[Anonymous No.22607109]

>>22607106
Not going to read all that. Good for you, or sorry that happened.

[Anonymous No.22607110]

>>22607109
I know you will, because you're a thread goblin and read everything.

[Anonymous No.22607164]

Do I have to be high IQ to read Tau Zero?

[Anonymous No.22607177]

>>22607164
No, it's agressively average.

[Anonymous No.22607183]

>>22607177
Aw really, some guy online said it was the hardest sci-fi ever written

[Anonymous No.22607219]

>book is set on a desert
>called dune
are we serious

[Anonymous No.22607236]

>>22607219
>book set on a western continent
>called Westeros
shiggy diggy

[Anonymous No.22607239]

>>22607236
>westeros
>easteros
oh come on

[Anonymous No.22607381]

>>22607219
>book is called Book of the New Sun
>the sun is literally dying of old age
Uhh, Wolfebros? Care to comment?

[Anonymous No.22607404]

>>22607381
In the end the old sun dies and a new one is born.

[Anonymous No.22607435]

>>22607381
It's a play on words, because what it's really about is the New Son, which is to say, The Second Coming of Our Lord Savior Severian, Blessed Be His Name.

[Anonymous No.22607438]

>>22607435
That is to say, it's the origin story of Apu Punchau

[Anonymous No.22607441]

>>22607404
wtf spoilers

[Anonymous No.22607455]

Is Dunsany really worth reading?

[Anonymous No.22607522]

>>22606263
Steven Erikson is a known spite writer and Malazan is one of the best in the genre.

[Anonymous No.22607593]

>>22606531
Not a real thing. Doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.22607667]

Guys? Where can I find a scifi book club? One where we pick a book for the month and go on discord calls to discuss it?

[Anonymous No.22607677]

>>22607667
discord is too busy sharing interracial porn and /ss/ to read books, your best bet is redd*t or real life

[Anonymous No.22607771]

>>22607677
I found some links on reddit that lead to discord book clubs, but all those were on decline and had already read like a 100 books. It's better to hop on when the train is starting than trying to catch it midway.

[Anonymous No.22607776]

>>22607771
>Admits to using plebbit
Seek death.

[Anonymous No.22607803]

>>22607455
Depends on what you're looking for. I bought a couple of his works to learn what it is about his work that inspired so many other writers (as well the prose). You can get something like The Sword of Welleran and Other Stories or Gods of Pegana for dirt cheap.

[Anonymous No.22607835]

>>22607219
Nigger seriously went to the Oregon dunes and thought "Imma write a book about a desert planet with giant worms n' shit."

[Anonymous No.22607898]

>>22607667
It's much harder than you'd think to do so. I've done so on text with the discord here at asynchronous times, but even that has a ton of problems. Good finding dedicated readers and being one yourself. There are so many obstacles.

[Anonymous No.22607991]

>>22607381
The Book of the New Sun is the book that old Severian, now Autarch, writes and sends to the past through a black hole where Gene Wolfe translates it and becomes an ancient book young Severian encounters but doesn't realize is about him.

[Anonymous No.22608014]

>>22605969
>Random bumfuck villager is equal to or better than elite knights
>Or magic means they have plot armor to be better than elite knights
WoT is total dogshit lmao. Zero sense of urgency or threat from any of the obstacles the characters face.

[Anonymous No.22608022]

>>22601587
Did we read the same book? Pic is definitely not related. Plenty of characters appear in the sequel series.
>>22603087
I'd keep the 6 different books structure. There's no reason to change it.
>>22603684
Blood Music is cool. I can't believe I've read it before the Cthulu Mythos and so on.
>>22603741
The Dying Earth, start with any book except 3. 3 is a direct sequel to 2.
>>22607441
It doesn't end like that, don't worry.

[Anonymous No.22608024]

>>22606027
Galad is cooler

[Anonymous No.22608034]

>>22608024
Only because he gets best girl in the end. He gets a lot of points for that.

[Anonymous No.22608040]

>>22607455
Read The King of Elflands Daughter (his most popular and accessible work) and see. It's all about the tone and atmosphere created. If you enjoy more abstract stuff, particularly The Silmarillion, then definitely read the Time and the Gods omnibus.

[Anonymous No.22608322]

New!!!
>>22608319
>>22608319
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