/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.22358944]

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/guIyhAzS
>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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>>22349911

[Anonymous No.22358951]

DUNSANY. IS. KING.

[Anonymous No.22358975]

>>22358944
Nice art hard, sauce ?

[Anonymous No.22358977]

Does The Black Company ever get any better in the sequels or should I stop with the first book?

[Anonymous No.22358978]

how do you guys choose what to read? there's just so many books to read, even if it's the classics alone.

[Anonymous No.22358979]

>>22358975
It's AI

[Anonymous No.22358982]

>>22358979
Is AI even putting signatures now

[Anonymous No.22358984]

>>22358975
Frazetta...

[Anonymous No.22358991]

>>22358978
I add whatever books that i find out about on here or on lists and other places on my To read list on Goodreads. I then sort it by tags like grimdark, old school SF, sword sorcery, new weird, golden age sci fi, noir etc etc and then pick something at random from them depending on my mood. Currently my read : to read ratio is like 200 :1500 so I'm set for a while.

[Anonymous No.22358998]

>>22358982
Yeah. It will squiggle nonsense in the corner.

[Anonymous No.22359004]

>>22358979
Haven't been keeping up on the AI drama. Are people finally done being retarded luddites?

[Anonymous No.22359023]

Halfway through Shaodw & Claw. Was I memed into reading this?

[Anonymous No.22359039]

>reading Hydrogen Sonata
>liked the part with the Culture ship spying on the other craft where they were discussing the meaning of the ship's name
>9% in
this is gonna be long and full of more shit I don't care about again huh? like this 4 armed chick trying to playing the sonata solo

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.22359054]

>>22358944
Walking to Aldebaran - Adrian Tchaikovsky (2019)

An inexplicable cosmic anomaly has been sighted out past Neptune. As per their inclinations humanity has no choice but to try to understand that which cannot be understood. Thus the cosmic horror of a planetoid that defies the fundamental principles of the universe is dubbed the Crypts, a reassuring name if there ever was one. The spaceship the crew travelled on is called Quixote, because being aware of your folly but doing it anyway is what it means to be human. The story, which alternates each chapter between the past and present until they merge, is narrated by Gary Rendell, who also has an appropriate name. I would know, wink wink, nudge nudge.

Why and for whom is Gary is telling this story? Oh, you're so silly, Toto, it's all for you. Once we're back in Kansas I hope you better appreciate all that I've done for you. I thought we had already moved past that stage in our relationship, or maybe it hasn't yet begun. It can be difficult to tell. Anyway, I hope you enjoy pop culture references and meta dialogue, because you'll either be reading it, are reading, or have already read it. As you either already know or not, the present chapters pertain to my wanderings around in the mostly lightless Crypts seeking out others for companionship and nourishment. You'd think that considering the Crypts possibly has passages to everywhere in space and time there would be more random encounters, but you'd be wrong. Toto, I feel that I can confide in you that loneliness can be the most deadly foe of them all. Now, as for the past chapters they're a story about how my life got flipped-turned upside down and I'll take a minute, just sit right there. I'll tell you I became the wanderer of a galactic labyrinth called Crypts.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled write-up, already in progress.

...and that's why despite its various flaws, Walking to Aldebaran is moderately amusing and worthwhile. As previously stated, if pop culture infused myth retellings aren't your style, then you may not want to add this to your reading pile. If reading about a lone wanderer describing the various monstrosities and peculiarities they come across is more your speed, then this you should read.

Rating: 3.5/5

[Anonymous No.22359064]

>>22359023
Memed into it? No. People here genuinely like that drivel.

[Anonymous No.22359068]

hi /sffg/
Please post some of your most memorable moments in sci-fi and fantasy books. They can be memorable in any way -- horror, comedy, absurdity, beauty, etc. I will post some of mine

>The Cruciforms chapter in Hyperion
>The descriptions of the aliens in Blindsight (the realizations when they have one captured in a tank)
>Spooky lady in Ship of Fools
>The descriptions of the tower in Diamond Dogs, Turquoise Days and also the concept of the Jugglers in Reynolds works
>Exploring the ship in Rendezvous with Rama

I am biased towards sci fi as you can tell.

[Anonymous No.22359073]

>>22359054
are you a quaddie?

[Anonymous No.22359098]

>>22359064
It feels like author wants me to give a single shit about Volund but I don't because he never bothers to explain who the fuck Volund is apart from being an outlaw. Drotte even offered to monologue to Severian about it but Wolfe proceeds.... to skip it? Torturer's guild is supposed to be unknown but every fucking character apart from some peltasts recognises him as one.
Half the text is Severian having a mid-day fever dream about some stupid thing. There's simply no hook to read it since I can't bring myself to care about the new characters. I started liking the Torturer's guild and the short interactions with Drotte, alright that's over, Severian is gonna be a sherrif but wait no, we take noble fight detour instead.
Dr. Talos was fun, but it feels like Wolfe wanted to cut him out as fast as possible. Most of the conversations seem to be missing a few sentences everywhere.

[Anonymous No.22359129]

>>22359098
Everything you just described, especially the whole thing where Wolfe announces some topic, then completely skips over it, is exactly what people like about it. It's a staple of his writing style. Really, his books are more about the way they make the reader feel and the questions they make them ask than any true depth (the questions once answered aren't all that interesting). His prose isn't the worst, either, so he's got that going for him at least.

[Anonymous No.22359142]

>>22359073
Based on a quick search I assume you're referencing Quaddies from Vorkosigan. I haven't read any of that series

[Anonymous No.22359259]

>female character gets gangraped by faceless soldiers after being captured
>feel bad about it for the rest of the day
how do you guys deal with this?

[Anonymous No.22359269]

>>22359142
No, I'm asking if you have some sort of deformity that renders you incapable of dealing with normal life in a normal way, only engaging with it through fiction.

[Anonymous No.22359272]

>>22359259
I can't conceptualize the character being romantically involved with me, so it just washes off the raincoat.

[Anonymous No.22359283]

>>22359068
The journey to the bottom of the underworld in Clariel.

[Anonymous No.22359300]

>>22359269
That's probably more right than wrong. Well-adjusted individuals don't tend to be regulars here.

[Anonymous No.22359309]

>started 3 body problem
>1/4 the way through
>there's a flashback about the cultural revolution
>17 pages of beating off about cultural revolution bad
>while jerking off and stating alllllll the scientific knowledge that the author has
>in a fucking flashback about the main character's dead crush's mom's dad
what the fuck is this shit

[Anonymous No.22359314]

>>22359259
I don't read books that have sort of thing in it.

[Anonymous No.22359359]

Is Anthony Ryan worth reading? If so which books? I never see him talked about here.

[Anonymous No.22359360]

>>22359309
The cultural revolution and the struggle session "main character's dead crush's mom's dad" goes through and what she subsequently goes through is important in establishing and maybe justifying her actions later on (still in the past). Keep reading dumb dumb.

[Anonymous No.22359386]

>>22358977
Stop

[Anonymous No.22359398]

read lord of the mysteries? no fag, but i will watch it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERjERrF5ni4&t

[Anonymous No.22359415]

>>22359398
Boy am I glad I learned Chinese.

[Anonymous No.22359448]

>>22359300
He's posting two reviews a day. There has to be some sort of backstory and he's anonymous anyway so it's not like there's some front to keep up

[Anonymous No.22359449]

>>22359259
She deserved it.

[Anonymous No.22359452]

>>22359448
>>/lit/thread/22328631#p22329233

[Anonymous No.22359471]

>>22359359
>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=%22blood+song%22

>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=%22Anthony+Ryan%22

I can't be bothered to provide the /sffg/ ratings right now other than to say only Blood Song tends to be mentioned positively.

[Anonymous No.22359481]

>>22359259
That's just how you are. It may be for the best that you avoid anything that will make you feel bad.

[Anonymous No.22359502]

>>22359448
>There has to be some sort of backstory

>man enjoys reading and posting his thoughts about what he reads
bizarre!

[Anonymous No.22359552]

>>22359360
I continued up to the 2nd flashback to the Red Coast base.
...It's alright, it just didn't grip me. I'll continue later. I like the VR part, pretty sure it's an allegory for something.
also, good thing I'm reading in my language cuz reading all those chink names must be insufferable in english, lmao

[Anonymous No.22359583]

Anybody wanna talk about The Deathworlders with me? Anybody else mad as fuck about it?

[Anonymous No.22359585]

>>22359583
the hfy series? idk, i dropped it a long time ago when that nigga keeps dropping 80k+ words chapters

[Anonymous No.22359618]

>>22359585

You must've dropped it way, way early then. It just finished this year at the 97th chapter

[Anonymous No.22359667]

>>22359502
He should do something else imo

[Anonymous No.22359682]

>>22358978
trust synchronicity

[Anonymous No.22359691]

>>22358978
Hugo award winners, before 1990, offer some good reads. Don’t trust anything in recent years though. It’s totally pozzed now.

[Anonymous No.22359695]

>>22358978
>goodreads list
>sort by random
>take first ten books
>put them in wheelofnames
>spin the wheel
>read whatever it lands on
pic-related is my current read

[Anonymous No.22359736]

>>22359667
It only seems like I'm reading. What I'm actually doing is spending all day playing videogames right now.

[Anonymous No.22359746]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvQ60pMvzVc
Just saw this video about Michael-Scott Earle making a "harem fantasy" porn? videogame based on pic related, which is pretty unusual to see...
What's /lit/ opinion of him and his books?
Are they worthy a read?

[Anonymous No.22359766]

Just started Malazan ...what am I in for /sff/bros?

[Anonymous No.22359838]

How does she do it?

[Anonymous No.22359841]

>>22359838
log off bro lmao
also cut off your dick haha
if you havent already
balls too

[Anonymous No.22359910]

>>22359746
they're absolute dogshit, author managed to make buying his books into a culture war thing which is why they've sold well
>>22359359
Blood Song good, sequel falls off
Dragon Series Okay
Liked the start of his new series but haven't read the 2nd book in it yet

[Anonymous No.22359926]

>>22359910
>they're absolute dogshit
I admit I didn't had the best impression from their cover, thank you for clarifying it for me.
>author managed to make buying his books into a culture war thing which is why they've sold well
Ok, now I NEED to know what's the deal about him.

[Anonymous No.22359933]

>>22359910
Anthony Ryan has a science fiction mystery book coming out later this later. Something like that anyway.

[Anonymous No.22359949]

hi guys, I'm really into the black company right now, kinda hilarious how autistic the Lady is

[Anonymous No.22359977]

>>22359949
Strange Company is The Black Company in SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE.
It's hilarious how blatant it is actually.

[Anonymous No.22359981]

>>22359977
>>22359977
nice digits
is it actually good or is it just a carbon copy

[Anonymous No.22359989]

>>22359981
>is it actually good or is it just a carbon copy
It pretty much is a carbon copy, but if you like the idea of The Black Company IN SPACE then it's worth reading.

[Anonymous No.22359998]

>>22359989
I like the black company because I think glen cook can write well, there's dime a dozen lowfantasy mudcore mercenaries books

[Anonymous No.22360126]

>>22359746
Lmao, can't belive it's a thing. But then I want the ahrem genre to grow and see what can happen to it down the line, good or bad, it's going to be interesting either weay.

[Anonymous No.22360138]

>>22359926
>Ok, now I NEED to know what's the deal about him.
It's not a real author. It's a bunch of ghost writers that shit out a book a month.

[Anonymous No.22360157]

Does /sffg/ have a discord ?

[Anonymous No.22360172]

>>22360157
That's arguable. It's either had one, a few, and been around for the better part of four years, or doesn't exist. It may have been linked everywhere or nowhere.

[Anonymous No.22360173]

>>22360138
>It's not a real author. It's a bunch of ghost writers that shit out a book a month.
Wasn't that Eric Vall?
Earle seems to appear in interview on YouTube with his own appearance.

[Anonymous No.22360221]

>>22360173
Same person, the second name is to circumvent amazon banning him

[Anonymous No.22360226]

>>22359259
I really dont care tbqh

[Anonymous No.22360241]

>>22359259
A quick wank usually calms me down.

[Anonymous No.22360374]

12 Miles Below

https://www.amazon.com/12-Miles-Below-Progression-Fantasy-ebook/dp/B0BWKDF1C7

Icy death above. Monster-filled dungeons below. He must fight or freeze.

Extreme sub-zero temperatures suffocate the surface. Frozen structures of bygone eras span across massive ice-wastes. And the survivors closely guard any technology rediscovered within them.

The only escape from the deadly climate is beneath the surface, but that doesn't mean it's safe...

Monstrous machines lurk in the depths. Unhinged demigods war against them, dying over and over, treating it all like a game. The depths themselves shift over time, more contraption than rock.

When an expedition into the far uncharted north goes terribly wrong, Keith Winterscar and his father get trapped together in a desperate fight for survival. Stumbling upon an ancient war of titanic scale, the two will need to set their differences aside while they struggle against gods, legends, and the secrets of the realm that lies below.

[Anonymous No.22360431]

>>22359746
It was only a matter of time. With how many litrpgs there are and how many smut novels have game mechanics I'm suprised someone hasn't tried to make a game adaption sooner.

[Anonymous No.22360460]

>>22359695
Great book, probably my favorite from that author.

[Anonymous No.22360467]

>>22358978
I try and think of what I want in a story first. If I wanted a band of brotherhood and giant life long military campaigns there's black company. If I want a knight in full armor trying to lance a troll there's Red Knight. And now I want to read a story with a world where the fae is much more intertwined with the world than just monsters so I'll probably read Black Sun Rising next.

Every permutation of fantasy has more or less than written so just search what you want to read.

[Anonymous No.22360513]

>>22359736
That would explain the basic as shit reviews.

[Anonymous No.22360516]

/ssfg/ is not /lit/. It's better

[Anonymous No.22360549]

>>22360173
The running theory is that Eric Vall, Logan Jacobs, Dante King and Simon Archer are all just ghost writer groups being run under Earle in order to publish on Amazon after he was banned from the store for attempting to manipulate the algorithm or some thing. Eric Vall is very likely ghost writers, the rest I'm less sure on.

[Anonymous No.22360566]

>>22360549
I figured those four were ghost farms but I hadn't realized the theory was that MSE was the mastermind behind them. Wouldn't surprise me if true.

[Anonymous No.22360576]

>>22360566
It's I think largely just conjecture, to be honest. But you can absolutely tell, just by sheer output, they're not single writers.

[Anonymous No.22360593]

>>22359746
Definitely read Tamer 1. I wouldn't say it's good, but it is a thing.

[Anonymous No.22360620]

>>22360157
No. There's a Goodreads group, but it's not really active.

[Anonymous No.22360647]

>>22359838
She's the creature called empathetic woman, VERY rare and even rarer that they are good writers.

[Anonymous No.22360658]

>>22358977
the black company peaks with the first book because they manage to cram a pretty exciting amount of stuff in one book, you can finish the books of the north trilogy though. After that its basically a different series entirely but thats kind of the point, its almost like an anthology in a sense since its "the 400 years of the black company"

[Anonymous No.22360680]

>>22359068
That cruciform reveal in Hyperion
Paul's realization and breakdown while waiting out the storm in Dune
Dalinar climax in Oathbringer
Riding the icebreaker in Burning Chrome
The final diary entry in Senseless Acts of Random Violence
Recounting the initial and horrific failures of terraforming and colonization in Broken Angels
Any of the Helmsman scenes in A Land Fit for Heroes
Morts first assignment as Death in Mort
Tywins death in A Storm of Swords

[Anonymous No.22360698]

[Anonymous No.22360709]

>>22359068
Green Man in Shadow and Claw
Mule twist in the Foundation Trilogy
The confrontation in Fahrenheit
The Vormance expedition in Against the Day

[Anonymous No.22360731]

>Deryn Sharp is a commoner, disguised as a boy in the British Air Service. She's a brilliant airman. But her secret is in constant danger of being discovered.
Thoughts on girls disguised as boys to join the army? Lot more common than I thought it would be, although unlike anime they're usually just flatchested tomboys and not magically hiding f cups with japanese bandages wrapped 1000 times

Also is Leviathan good? Ive seen in recommended when people ask about Biopunk and its a genre I've enjoyed but haven't had much of a chance to read since just binging the classics atm.

[Anonymous No.22360787]

>>22360620
Yeah I'm in that one. Some guy did a bunch of effort poasts in there collecting 4chan anons profiles who post like hundreds of reviews on GR so I found tons of books to add to my TBR from there. Thanks to whoever that was, if you still browse here.

[Anonymous No.22360791]

>>22360374
I'm almost done with the pirated audiobook.
It's not a progression fantasy (there is 0 progression).
Otherwise it's good. I'm going to pirate the epub and continue reading on royalroad.

[Anonymous No.22360833]

Now that the dust has settled. When will it get an anime adaptation? Also, what did I think of it?

[Anonymous No.22360837]

>>22360731
Trash

[Anonymous No.22360841]

>>22360833
there'll be an anime adaptation but it'll be by Netflix and full CG

[Anonymous No.22360843]

>>22360841
God... DAMMIT. Can't we have anything nice?

[Anonymous No.22360857]

>>22360843
>Can't we have anything nice?
No, because you keep blaspheming. Psalms 9:17

[Anonymous No.22360868]

>>22360843
Not if you keep reading and promoting trash

[Anonymous No.22360869]

>>22360791
>It's not a progression fantasy (there is 0 progression).
It's weirdly hard to find progression fantasy that actually sticks to the progression premise.
Like I just want to read about someone gradually discovering more and more about magic and ideally not in a school/formal education setting and most of the genre somehow doesn't fit that

[Anonymous No.22360872]

>>22360868
Cradle has the potential to be the next Naruto/Dragonball/next big anime.
There, I said it.

[Anonymous No.22360878]

>>22360872
You say that as if it's a good thing
please read better stuff

[Anonymous No.22360880]

>>22360872
If they can get the Avatar people to do it in the same style yeah for sure. People really just want more avatar and Xianxia is as close as they're going to get

[Anonymous No.22360886]

>>22360880
You get it. Get the avatar people on that shit, and it's GOLD, Jerry! Literally prints money.

But they need to get whoever wrote the first Avatar. Not Korra.

[Anonymous No.22360891]

>long running character dies not in a blaze of glory but in the first arrow shower or a lame-ass trap or of post battle dysentery.
You think I'd get used to this after all these years of reading fantasy warfare but its always a shame when someone just dies cause war sucks and someone needs to get fucked over because they dont have enough medics to bandage everyone

[Anonymous No.22360895]

>>22360880
Or better yet. Get the Mob Psycho guys on it.

[Anonymous No.22360932]

>>22360880
Avatar people are literal Hollywood jews.
Infact no western studio should be allowed to do it because as we have seen with western animation it is always shit or turns to shit.
Few other factors to consider, if western studios does it then it will get pozzed in some way, even if japanese studios does it (but that will never happen) it will be pozzed because the cradle audience are fucking r*ddit trannys and the author/producer/publisher would be fucking stupid to make anime about white/asian straight kid on heros almost traditional journey in 2023
therefore no cradle anime, already the novels themselves have been pozzed enough.

[Anonymous No.22360945]

>>22360787
It's always unclear how much anyone uses anything. The threads have a view count but that doesn't mean all that much. I haven't updated that thread this year so far because of that reason considering the effort.

>if you still browse here
Seems like this a good time for the occasional reminder that !SFFG.n1h7m, the founder of the Goodreads group, the poster of most of threads there, the owner of the mega in the OP, and other stuff are one and the same. So, yes, I still browse here and post regularly.

>>22360620
I don't know what active would would like at this point beyond being the reasons stated in the "why this group exists" thread, more or less. Most of the discussion is here or nominally in the discord. Sometimes there's commenting that I see in my activity feed on Goodreads.

[Anonymous No.22360948]

>>22360891
On one hand, it's nice to have actual realism in a fantasy book. On the other hand, always sucks when it happens to a character I liked. KJ Parker books do this constantly and I both love and hate it.

[Anonymous No.22360963]

Could you guys please recommend a sffg 1st-person POV novel featuring an unreliable narrator protagonist who also possesses the ability to read the minds of others much like reading open books?
The premise has potential to create a decent mystery but I haven't read anything similar except one series.

[Anonymous No.22360968]

>>22360593
>>22360126
>I wouldn't say it's good, but it is a thing.
What can be considered a good representative for the "harem fantasy" genre anyway? Aside from WoT ofc.

[Anonymous No.22360974]

>>22360963
Dying Inside

[Anonymous No.22360976]

>>22360932
>Pozzed
>Pozzed
>Pozzed
All Will Wight has to do, is go down to the studio, and tell them "don't". And it's settled.

[Anonymous No.22360984]

>>22360976
so fucking ugly. All of it

[Anonymous No.22360993]

>>22360878
>read stuff that I like more or at least has literary merit. Really, we should all only be reading what has been determined to be the most worthy. Why are we reading genre trash again?

[Anonymous No.22360997]

>>22360984
Your mom isn't related to the thread.

[Anonymous No.22361003]

>>22360513
Do you really expect more from here? FOR FREE? I don't know what you think the purpose of doing anything here is.

[Anonymous No.22361007]

>>22360976
What are these about? Any comparison?

[Anonymous No.22361015]

>>22361007
It's xianxia

[Anonymous No.22361024]

>>22361015
Oh God I kinda knew it for some reason damn

[Anonymous No.22361025]

>>22361007
chinese take on battle shonen westernized

[Anonymous No.22361043]

>>22360857
Praying that God damns someone or something isn't blasphemy. Not always a good and righteous thing when (specifically when said not because you've brought your will in line with God's, but only for your hatred of that something or someone), but it isn't blasphemy. For example, praying for Babylon's damnation wasn't blasphemy of course, because it was God's will. "Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The broad walls of Babylon shall be utterly broken, and her high gates shall be burned with fire; and the people shall labour in vain, and the folk in the fire, and they shall be weary."
>1. An indignity offered to God in words, writing, or signs; impiously irreverent words or signs addressed to, or used in reference to, God; speaking evil of God; also, the act of claiming the attributes or prerogatives of deity.

[Anonymous No.22361062]

>>22361007
Like stated before, it's a really good match for Avatar the Last Air Bender. It's light, fun, and adventurous, but get dramatic at times. The powers are cool, the characters are likeable, and the plotlines have satisfying arcs.

You follow around this dude with very low potential, but he has a deep yearning to improve himself. And in my opinion, the story starts off really interesting, because the protagonist has to use his cunning to make his way in a world where everyone is more powerful than him. He starts at absolutely zero. But slowly, over the course of multiple books, you see him grow, and become more powerful. However, his cunning is never set aside. Every step of the way, he concocts plans to gain an advantage over his competition.

I don't know anything about Xianxia. I never read the stuff before. So I guess Cradle is my first one. But I know the book upsets a couple of the Xianxia fans in the thread, because they don't know how weak the protagonist throughout many books. So by gauging their reaction, I guess that Cradle bucks the trends of the genre, and is probably an outlier.

[Anonymous No.22361063]

>>22361062
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.22361070]

>>22361063
I'm not the review anon. I haven't posted a review in months. And I'm just trying to give him a general idea of what the book is like.

[Anonymous No.22361073]

>>22360976
Isn't Will Wight a Mormon?

[Anonymous No.22361078]

>>22361073
No, that's Brandon Sanderson.

[Anonymous No.22361081]

>>22361073
You're thinking of the other fat pasty guy with an insane output.

[Anonymous No.22361084]

>>22361073
>anyone who has anything to with Brandon Sanderson becomes Mormon by association

[Anonymous No.22361088]

Have any of you all have given 本好きの下剋上 -- Ascendance of a Bookworm -- a try? I have only read a few LNs, and this one to me stood head and shoulders above the rest. The culture (history, customs, traditions, mannerisms, introductions all the way down to the cuisine), religion, economy, stratified social structure, the city, regions, and country are so well fleshed out that you can understand how these conditions created all the characters in the story. There story is about a young bookworm Japanese woman is Isekaid as a poor, sickly, commoner 4-5 year old girl into a Medival setting (if you can just overlook this trope) where books are only accessible to nobility and the extremely wealthy (as books are made by hand). The story then follows her learning about the world, making use of her vast knowledge centuries ahead of her time, and trying to make books.

[Anonymous No.22361090]

>>22361081
Sanderson's output is vastly exaggerated, but that's to be expected since he's one of the most popular authors and becomes a reference point for basically everything because of that. There are many authors who put out much more.

[Anonymous No.22361095]

>>22359259
I feel aroused reading about women getting raped
I even nut one if I'm alone

[Anonymous No.22361101]

>>22361088
Yes, it seemed meh in all its forms. Book, manga, anime, and so on.

[Anonymous No.22361111]

>>22361101
Anime and manga were fine (suffering from the usual disadvantages of the mediums compared to books), but I read 27 of it's 33 books -- the rest yet to be translated -- in about 3 weeks.
What did you not like about the LN?

[Anonymous No.22361117]

>>22361088
I'm too busy reading all of 谷崎潤一郎 and 江戸川乱歩 to read LNs anymore.

[Anonymous No.22361124]

>>22361090
Name 5

[Anonymous No.22361132]

>>22360976
Have you seen his fb, r*ddit pages? The audience that actually buys his books are all r*ddit trannys or at least liberals. Why would a man kill his income just like that?
also if anime or movie adaptation ever happens they will probably just buy all publishing rights anyway and make it according to Hollywood standards.

[Anonymous No.22361148]

>>22361088
Yeah don't think it's that good, read multiple books in the same/similar subgenres that I liked more.
IIRC I stopped reading AoaB fairly early on because of this.

Like they're obviously baggier because they're chinese webnovels but Release that Witch does the technological development thing in a more interesting way (because there's pretty constant time pressure on him to develop tech quickly) and Fields of Gold was a better take on the reincarnated into a little girl and then doing tech development. That second one hinges more on magic than purely bringing back modern ideas but I think it's still more interesting over all just because the protag is a more interesting person and because they're put in harsher conditions at first.

[Anonymous No.22361151]

Can I talk xianxia here?
Anyone read 剑尊冷酷无情 (Ruthless Coldhearted Swordmaster)?

[Anonymous No.22361163]

>>22361151
>Ruthless Coldhearted Swordmaster
No, but I read Ancient Martial Swordgod which is pretty much the same.
It's shit.

[Anonymous No.22361169]

>>22361124
Any popular web fiction author really and many self-published.

[Anonymous No.22361176]

The number one trait of every webnovel hack is describing everyone as beautiful or handsome. Think about it logically.

[Anonymous No.22361179]

>>22361176
So? Why would I want to read about ugly people?

[Anonymous No.22361182]

>>22360791

Are you the first person here who likes 12 Miles Below besides the weekly shill? Would you recommend it to others?

[Anonymous No.22361183]

>>22361132
>Have you seen his fb, r*ddit pages? The audience that actually buys his books are all r*ddit trannys or at least liberals.
Yes, and? They're consuming his book, so they must like it. Besides, the vast majority of all fantasy readers are reddit trannies and liberals. Only freak outcasts aren't. So just be virtue of being successful, he's going to have a reddit audience. Same as everyone else.

>Why would a man kill his income just like that?
Forcing the studio to stick with the source material, is not going to kill his income. You see, there are two kinds of liberals. Active, and reactive. The active liberals actually seek out confrontations. They're scouting for things to get angry about. Trying to solve world issues in their own way. Active liberals are small minority. Despite what you read online, the vast majority of liberals are *reactive*. They're the kinds of people who don't really care is The Little Mermaid is black, until you make the Little Mermaid black, and then they react positively to it, because that's the agenda they're subscribed to. And if you question why Ariel is black, they react negatively to you, because that's the agenda they're subscribed to. But if you *don't* put any liberal agenda stuff in their entertainment... they won't care. Because there's nothing to react to. A few of them might make comments like "the show is so white". But ultimately, they're going to watch it, enjoy it, and tell other people about it.

So all Will Wight has to do, is get his work through production unscathed, and audiences will eat it up gladly. The hardest part will be arguing with the trannies inside the studio, trying to make a name for themselves, by marring other people's work. But it's not impossible. Especially if you give it to a Japanese studio, it will be out of the reach of western liberal influence.

[Anonymous No.22361186]

>>22361148
There are some fairly large shifts in the type of story it is. Early on it is that sort of tech development as a means to an end (books) such as (soft P1 spoiler) hair stick, shampoo, recipes, hair flower thing, and eventually plant paper
(alongside all the tools needed to make it) and later on (soft P2, 3, 4 spoiler) printing press (inc. the prototypes, minutiae), spring beds, water pumps etc. , but there is a large shift wherein it starts to take a more political and fantasy atmosphere, with the tiniest bit of action sprinkled here and there.

[Anonymous No.22361187]

>>22361179
a fat midget carried the best fantasy book ever in his shoulders

[Anonymous No.22361188]

>>22361151
Read reverend insanity. It's the only xanxia that matters.

[Anonymous No.22361196]

>>22361182
Compared to most other webnovels it's great. I can definitely recommend it.
Full disclosure: For the last 5 years or so I've only read webnovels (including translated chinese ones).

>>22361188
It's shit.

[Anonymous No.22361198]

>>22361183
that really worked out for the last airbender. Anyway he will not give it to japanese studio

[Anonymous No.22361210]

>>22361196

Would you want to post a more detailed review of it?

[Anonymous No.22361212]

>>22361196
What are the top 3 asian/chinese webnovels that you read?

[Anonymous No.22361215]

I read every single Cradle book. It was fucking awful and not worth it at all. There. I said it. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.22361219]

>>22361132
And if you don't believe me, then just take a look at Vinland Saga. A show streaming on Netflix, with an all white cast. All Norseman and Englishman. Every one of them. Like 75% of the characters are blonde.

>>22361198
It wasn't hard for The Last Airbender. Because it was produced prior to the current political climate. releasing all the way back in 2005. the 00s were a pretty edgy time, and TLA is considered tame for it's time. I don't know how it holds up today, because I haven't watched it in forever.
Also, I'm pretty sure TLA was produced jointly between western artists and Korean animators. Japan wasn't involved. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>Anyway he will not give it to japanese studio
You never know... he might.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.22361220]

>>22358944
The Warren - Brian Evenson (2016)

The opening dedication of The Warren reads, "for Gene Wolfe". That's true in that it's in Wolfe's style of writing stories that are puzzles and has an unreliable narrator. This could also be dedicated to Joseph W. Campbell Jr. or Jeff Vandermeer, as seen on the cover. The story is set somewhere that isn't Earth at some time when some person realizes they exist. The unnamed initial first person viewpoint quickly comes to understand that there are many people within their mind. Some are whole and others are corrupted. Some barely exist and others seek control. Some panic and others are curious. All of them are alive and none of them are. It's difficult to make decisions smoothly and consistently when any action may require consensus. There's also an AI that responds to voiced queries and then one other person who serves as a foil.

I had several theories as to what was going on and why, mostly meta rather than plot level ones. I came upon an interview with Evenson where he discussed his intentions for this novella. I liked it less once after I knew its purpose. Mostly in the confirmation this is entirely about vibes, feels, atmosphere, and little else. Usually I'm unable to enjoy something in exclusively aesthetic terms, which is likely what half of this is. The other half is what Evenson calls epistemological horror. I haven't read Peter Watt's Blindsight, which may be similar, and I was reminded of Victor Pelevin's The Helmet of Horror. As to what happens, it's mostly the viewpoint character(s) going around and pondering their existence and circumstances. That may be sort of like a walking sim horror game made by an indie art videogame studio. Initially I found this to be somewhat reminiscent of the Fallout series, but the similarity is superficial.

A puzzle missing pieces is different from a puzzle that never had the pieces and is considered complete without them. For the latter, which the author says it is, the assembler can appreciate that as an artistic choice, create their own pieces, or feel some other way. I appreciated the pieces that exist, have no interest in creating my own, and think it's an incomplete puzzle. I find myself irritated knowing this was intentional. Up until the ending this was moderately pleasing and maybe I could've been fine with it all remaining a mystery known only by touch in the darkness. The revelatory light of brute force explanation spotlights its true form, and it's unsightly. The ending says only enough to remind you how much is being intentionally withheld and obscured because it's not meant to be relevant.

This was suggested for me to read by someone. I've read four other works of short fiction by Evenson, all horror. I had forgotten that I had read any until I looked at my short fiction spreadsheet. Apparently I disliked them. I won't be avoiding Evenson, but I won't be seeking out what he's written either.

Rating: 3/5

[Anonymous No.22361224]

>>22361210
no

>>22361212
1. Lord of Mysteries (good, finished)
2. A Will Eternal (shit, didn't finish)
3. Martial World (shit, didn't finish)

[Anonymous No.22361231]

>>22361220
The interview
https://chireviewofbooks.com/2016/09/20/how-brian-evenson-wrote-his-new-sci-fi-novella-the-warren/

The suggestion
>>/lit/thread/22328631#p22329676

If anyone else has a novella for me to read then feel free to reply with it.

[Anonymous No.22361237]

>>22361062
I might check the first one out just for the heck of it

[Anonymous No.22361246]

>>22361237

Seriously, don’t read Cradle. It’s not worth it. You’ve been warned.

[Anonymous No.22361247]

>>22361183
Why limit it to anything as vaguely defined as liberals? The behavior you describe is in no way limited to such a grouping. You seem to be describing identity politics and tribalism more widely as well.

[Anonymous No.22361252]

>>22361237
That's fair. Nobody is telling you to consume it all before judging. Hell, I'm not even really recommending it. You just asked what it was about, so I told you. You might like it, you might not. I'm the same way. if the first book isn't gripping me, then I'm dropping it. I had to learn the sunken cost fallacy the hard way, by reading more Sanderson than I should have.

[Anonymous No.22361259]

>>22361219
nta, but I don't see how Vinland Saga is relevant. It's based off a manga that that's based on the titular Norse epics. It's semi-historical series. Netflix's involvement is paying for the rights to have it also be on Netflix.

[Anonymous No.22361260]

>>22361224
didn't even finish 2 out of 3 novels, your claim of only reading webnovels for the last 5 years is probably a lie.

>>22361219
Have you watched the second season of vinland saga? The main character gets cucked almost daily, according to manga in season three the real leftist nonsense will start.
Regarding TLA airbender, you do know that they made korra into dyke? Also even having female main character, what the fuck were they thinking..

[Anonymous No.22361261]

>>22361196
>It's shit.
You're shit.

[Anonymous No.22361264]

>>22361247
You're correct. But I kept my post focused on his concerns. Which is liberals, and their potential to ruin entertainment. Liberals have a lot of influence where conservatives don't. Like, nobody is concerned that Cradle will enter the television industry and come out the other side with white-washed, Chriscucked characters. Because that's just not reality. We all fear what the liberals might do, as they have the power in the industry.

[Anonymous No.22361268]

>>22361260
nta, but you really are too sensitive and too eager to take offense. I'm current on the manga and I don't know what you mean by leftist, but then again I don't see the world as you do.

[Anonymous No.22361271]

>>22361260
>What are the top 3 asian/chinese webnovels that you read?
Can you read?

[Anonymous No.22361293]

>fantasy booktuber reviews blood meridian
>1 star, not enough like Red Dead Redemption 2
I kid you not.

[Anonymous No.22361296]

>>22361264
I think your "we" may be too inclusive and ambiguous, but ok. As for nobody being concerned, there's always concerns. That happens to almost all western live action adaptations of Eastern works, mostly Japanese. The complaints of whitewashing and similar that is. The industry's commitment to such values are entirely dependent on whether it remains profitable and convenient. There's a lot more nuance to it. As for conservatives not having influence, well, that's another matter that isn't that simple either.

[Anonymous No.22361297]

>>22361259
>It's based off a manga
This didn't stop Netflix from Raceswapping L for their live action adaptation of Deathnote.

>based on the titular Norse epics
Didn't stop Netflix from featuring a black Viking queen in "Vikings: Valhalla"

I realize Netflix isn't directly involved with the production of Vinland Saga. But it still goes to show that if you play your cards right, then you can have a not-pozzed show get streamed on Netflix. Saying a show will be on Netflix doesn't entirely doom it. But it will be a difficult task to avoid the pitfalls.

>>22361260
>Have you watched the second season of vinland saga? The main character gets cucked almost daily
What are you talking about? "cucked" has lost all meaning. In fact, don't answer that. I remember you. You're the guy who's mad that the main character isn't an edgy retarded violent teen anymore. I'm not interested in your opinion regarding anything. You have zero taste.

>Regarding TLA airbender, you do know that they made korra into dyke?
Korra was produced in current political climate. 2014. Peak tumblr days right there. Different climates, different shows.

[Anonymous No.22361298]

>>22361268
the old shaman going on how white people going to destroy his land?

[Anonymous No.22361303]

>>22361298
How is that leftist? The visions were dumb, yes, but it's objectively true that Europeans took over the Americas from the natives. He was right to be worried. It was only to provide a reason as to why what will happen next can conform to the source material.

[Anonymous No.22361314]

>>22358944
Tried to start the culture series with consider phlebas. Does the prose and general writing ability improve? It's some Crichton-levels of terrible writing
>The space ship accelerated really fast
>He shot the laser at the monk and he fell down
>He smirked and then said, "fuck you"
Ad nauseam every single page, it's like reading bad teen fiction. Is there a better starting point because the writing combined with the one-dimensional boring ass characters is making me cringe the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.22361315]

>>22361303
On that note it amuses me to think that that the Iroquois Confederacy and similar could've gone on about a Great Replacement as well and said "The whites will not replace us!" and now be said that they were leftists. Funny, in a sad way.

[Anonymous No.22361318]

>>22361296
ok, some white washing happens. Like in Ghost in the Shell. But in our current political climate, that's rarely a thing anymore. Nine times out of ten, if a character is getting race swapped, they're becoming black. Or maybe Jewish. I bet you can't think of any recent examples of white washing. I named the only major case in recent times. I'll give you a 10 year window.

[Anonymous No.22361323]

>>22361303
Why bring something like that into manga/anime (and netflix are definitely going have a field day with that) ? Id understand if the author was some white liberal then it's regular pozzed and nothing to be surprized about, but the author of manga is a japanese therefore this is political, unless story develops even further where we see africans killing africans in their endless (past and present) wars and invading southern Europe in the past and present, but of course we will not see this.

[Anonymous No.22361342]

>>22361318
It's mostly only Asian characters. The Death Note movie for example, as was mentioned already. Doctor Strange has a white woman as a Tibetan monk. Edge of Tomorrow has Tom Cruise as Japanese, not for the first time either. Though a lot of changes were made with that in general. Again, most from Asia is changed. This can also be seen in the US education system as well with the difference in treatment of Asians and black people.

>>22361323
That's not contained in the source material of the Viking epics. It's just about over. There's only one major thing left really. Yes, it's political in that it's an attack that usage of the atomic bomb was wrong.

[Anonymous No.22361350]

>>22361259
isnt there already a historical viking series with black vikings? Netflix already has precedence

[Anonymous No.22361356]

>>22361350
If it isn't produced by Netflix it's an irrelevant example.

[Anonymous No.22361371]

>>22361350
>>22361356
Netflix will make 10 times worse.

[Anonymous No.22361401]

>>22361342
>The Death Note movie
Fair. But I trade your Light Yagami for Spike Spiegel from the Cowboy Bebop adaptation. Where they got an plain looking Asian to play a handsome character. All because he has a bit of name to him and he's Asian. They also black-washed Jet. And before you get on Faye's casting, the actress is Mexican.
And before you get on Ed's casting, Ed is implied to be Turkish.

>Doctor Strange has a white woman as a Tibetan monk
ok, that was weird. But at the same time, the liberal agenda deems the depiction of a wise Asian mystic with a Fu Manchu beard to be a racist caricature. So as misguided as they were, it was still an act of liberalism.

>Edge of Tomorrow has Tom Cruise as Japanese
Alright. But Tom Cruise is old boomer Hollywood. And Scientology is akin to to conservatism. He can get away with things that other people can't, and he likely only took the role because he trusted it would fit his conservative-friendly action guy image.

>This can also be seen in the US education system as well with the difference in treatment of Asians and black people.
Asians are not only a smaller minority in the US, but they also complain less. Opting to be compliant, when they should be defiant. Roughly 1/8 of all Americans are black. Asians are about half that now, at about 7%. However, their population growth occurred rapidly over the last 25 years. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/04/29/key-facts-about-asian-americans/
While black population has been hovering around 13% for most of America's history. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2021/03/25/the-growing-diversity-of-black-america/

So just by raw numbers, black people are going to be featured more. But add to that, Asian cultures forcing all their kids to be nurses and other professionals, at the cost of their dreams to be actors, plus their compliant nature, you have a recipe for under-representation.

[Anonymous No.22361411]

>>22361401
Do you not see an issue with any of it?

[Anonymous No.22361428]

>>22361401
>>22361342
I couldn't fit it in 2000 characters. But basically what I'm getting at, is that whatever the white casting agents and producers and directors and writers think about Asians, those issues are probably a lot smaller than you think, when you look at these other factor, where Asians don't cultivate actors or artists in general. For an Asian to become a performer, something has to be wrong at home. They have to be a little off. Meanwhile, black people are much more likely to take the risk being poor and barely getting buy to pursue their dreams.

>>22361411
Uhhh.... Yeah? I'm not sure what you're asking exactly. But I see a problem with race swapping in general. But there's like 100 cases of a white person turning another race, to every 1 case of an asian person turning white. I'm also a little understanding of Hollywood when it comes to finding Asian talent, because the talent pool is very small.

[Anonymous No.22361434]

>>22361220
I was the Warrenfag

gonna rec you this (only if you get no other recs because it's described as a novel, but probably the shortest it can be. my slow ass read it + the short stories mentioned below in 6.5 hours)
depending on the edition you get, it can also come bundled under the same title with 4 short stories set in the same world

[Anonymous No.22361436]

>>22361043
Taking God's name in vain is blasphemy, the 3rd commandment, not treating his name or office with the reverence and fear it deserves.

[Anonymous No.22361437]

>>22361428
>Yeah? I'm not sure what you're asking exactly.
The tone of your comment was like you were accepting and ok with all that is happening

[Anonymous No.22361439]

>>22361436
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.22361447]

>>22361439
>nooo don't reply to posts in the thread noooo waaaah
Thanks for the reminder that generals are cancer.
>>>/trash/
>>>/b/

[Anonymous No.22361468]

>>22361447
It's fine to reply in a thread just don't reply with religious nonsense.

[Anonymous No.22361469]

>>22361437
What do you mean by "all"? Because I said a lot of different stuff? I'm not ok with race swapping, if that's what you're asking. But I do understand that there are cases where finding talent is difficult, so you just got to hire someone who doesn't fit perfectly.

I'm ok with Asian parents pressuring their children to go into successful fields. Because that's not necessarily bad. Just different.

I don't know what you want me to say. I'm just laying out how I see the world, in order to explain how things come to be.

[Anonymous No.22361470]

>>22361468
Take your own advice, midwit.

[Anonymous No.22361481]

>>22361447
>Thanks for the reminder that generals are cancer.
They really are, these retards want a subplebbit echo chamber chatroom. They'll bring up a topic and be wrong, get corrected, then cry like black people who get endless welfare handouts but still think they're owed reparations.

[Anonymous No.22361489]

>>22358944
It’s been a long time, /sffg/.
I’m keen to get a techno-thriller novel chart made some day, since the mega doesn’t have much. I don’t just want to repeat Wikipedia, but I do think the MGS novelisations and Project Itoh’s Genocidal Organ belongs on it. It’s a shame there’s not more guides on techno-thriller, or just science fiction mixed with espionage.

[Anonymous No.22361503]

>>22361434
Based on its wordcount that's definitely a novel. I'll keep it mind though for October, but I don't guarantee that I'll read it.

[Anonymous No.22361524]

>>22361489
The mega is a very specific way of presenting information. There isn't much about technothrillers, or most anything else there, but lists exist elsewhere, in the archives here, Goodreads and various sites. You can use those, but what may be better is you reading a ton and deciding for yourself.

The books folder has over 1,100 images and there's additional images in the lit folder. I don't know how many look outside the specifically linked folder in the OP.

[Anonymous No.22361588]

went to the library yesterday and found out sue burke has a new book out, pretty excited. i love semiosis but i didn't read the last one bc i didn't feel like reading a book about a plague epidemic

also picked up nophek gloss, anyone read that?

[Anonymous No.22361609]

>>22359054
>>22361220
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.22361672]

>>22361293
Matt is a little retarded to be honest.

[Anonymous No.22361692]

>>22360968
>What can be considered a good representative for the "harem fantasy" genre anyway? Aside from WoT ofc.
There are different strains and ideas about a solid harem book, but I believe Bruce Sentar might be an example of an author more or less writing solid harem series. Dragon Justice, Dungeon Delving 101, Saving Supervillains...all of those are decent, albeit in a 'very average fantasy book with harem' way decent.

[Anonymous No.22361705]

>>22361268
Stop the cope, There's literally natives being muh genocided by the whites and not to mention that giant ugly canon tranny character,plus the entire pacifism is epic cucked premise.
As fuckin libtarded as it gets

[Anonymous No.22361714]

>>22361692
Yeah, I've been reading some of his stuff lately. It's not stellar by any means, but he's at least consistently 'capable'. It does feel like he tends to just kind of re-use the same character archetypes though.
And his protagonists all basically seem to be the same guy.

[Anonymous No.22361730]

>>22359259
I don't care unless she's the one MC is supposed to get together with at the end - in which case I drop the book in disgust because the author is a cuck.

[Anonymous No.22361742]

>>22360157
anyone attempting to take a 4chan thread and migrate it offsite is an offsite invader to begin with. if the offsite happens to be discord he's probably a troon to boot. and discord servers based on anything tend to converge to the same degenerate shithole populated mainly by a couple of powertripping failed normalfags simply due to the attention-energy tradeoffs that predominate there

if you want a place with a 4chan vibe you can only ever find it on 4chan, because the format of the website is ultimately what constrains and selects for the culture.

[Anonymous No.22361761]

>>22361705
Consider touching grass.

[Anonymous No.22361772]

>>22361714
You're right on the money. Bruce takes the same cast of characters and sticks them in different haremlit fads. I feel like that's common for harem authors but he's at least competent enough to keep it entertaining.

[Anonymous No.22361794]

>>22361742
Is that a yes or a no?

[Anonymous No.22361799]

Only when those who read the words of the revered writer known as Bakker (pbuh) and act upon these sublime inscriptions, will they be rewarded to rule supreme over those who read the miserable creation known as sandi and his clownish words spat over paper and screens read by those soi fed hordes of half men and women, in awe of sandi and his snotty nose. If the prophet supreme had wanted to slay the sandi hordes and put a halt to their filth he could have, but as is the lot of mankind sandi does not know the ways of the prophet supreme, and so his followers are left to follow along as the world spins in its eternal motion. Do you think you are part of that spinning world sandi? Because that is what you are doing, spinnin’ for the prophet supreme as you go, or is it a little too soon for you to know and see this? To see that you are not really doing anything at all? And all the while you think you are doing something.
“The world moves in circles and the prophet supreme knows it”

[Anonymous No.22361803]

Will /sffg/ read my literary novel about inmigrant miners in love with electrical dragons

[Anonymous No.22361815]

>>22361772
Like, they seem to be mixed up somewhat, at least, so the 'first girl' isn't always the same type, but they're pretty basic characters even then. You get the hypersexual flirty one, the more reserved down-to-earth one, the shy one, the worryingly obsessed one, etc. At least some of those traits seem to be mix 'n matched. Though honestly my main issue is how quickly the girls turn around as characters once they actually start being in a relationship with the protagonist. Some go from horrendously antagonistic to hopelessly in love in the span of a few pages.
Also each of his series I've read has had a Rachel in it (only one of those was a harem member though) and I'm wondering if that's just a coincidence or what.

[Anonymous No.22361830]

>>22361799
Hail Bakker!
Praise Bakker!

Bakker is strength!
Bakker is righteousness!
Bakker is victory!

[Anonymous No.22361839]

>>22361803
Is that you, K. K. Wing? Wait no there's actual fantasy in there it can't be Wing

[Anonymous No.22361855]

>>22361803
do miners kiss electric dragons? (Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?)

[Anonymous No.22361871]

>>22358978
Does it sound interesting?

[Anonymous No.22361890]

>>22359068
>the tragedy of Leto II
>the reveal of the narrator at the end of Book of the Long Sun
>Ikurei Xerius going to finger his mother only to stick his hand down her pants and feel an erection
>ride of the Rohirrim
>Hiro Protagonist delivering a pizza

[Anonymous No.22361910]

>>22359068
Ending of Stainless Steel Rat Saves the World.
Book's not the best in the series but the final joke is so fucking good

[Anonymous No.22361930]

>>22361910
Never even heard of the series, what is it?

[Anonymous No.22361938]

>>22361930
>Never even heard of the series,
The absolute state of /sffg/
I fucking hate zoomies

[Anonymous No.22361947]

>>22361938
90% of people in this thread read webnovel chink ai shit. You seriously think they would know what that is?

[Anonymous No.22361956]

>>22361930
>>22361947
Zoomers be like
>Critically acclaimed and influential scifi series
Never heard of it bruh
>Chinklit with 5 monthly Reader's
Yeah dude "retarded chink kills god" is a GREAT series ONG and it's like reading anime frfr

[Anonymous No.22361959]

>>22361930
Scifi comic capers, kinda like Dortmunder but in space

[Anonymous No.22361976]

>>22361956
yeah chill out grandpa

[Anonymous No.22361983]

I've never read it either, but mostly because 90% of science-fiction is boring. Dunsany is king.

[Anonymous No.22361987]

>>22361976

[Anonymous No.22361994]

Will /sffg/ read my sci fi intrigue/espionage Military novel?
1/6

[Anonymous No.22362000]

2/6

[Anonymous No.22362006]

[Anonymous No.22362010]

4/6

[Anonymous No.22362014]

>>22361692
I'm yet to read a good harem with old man protag that isn't arrogant

[Anonymous No.22362015]

5/6

[Anonymous No.22362023]

6/6

[Anonymous No.22362044]

>>22361994
>>22362000
Does it has no-nonsense military milf? This is important

[Anonymous No.22362053]

I'm starting to think you guys don't actually read.
Anyway, I read Between Two Fires, pretty good until the ending wobbled a bit.

Now I'm reading The Only Good Indian and it's been kinda garbage until a weird twist happened halfway through, so now I feel invested to see where it leads.
I've been trying to find horror stuff thats Scifi/Fantasy, any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.22362062]

>>22362053
You should unironically read George RR Martin, before ASOIAF took off that was his wheelhouse. Fevre Dream is real good

[Anonymous No.22362069]

>>22362053
Also read Adam Nevill stuff cause I saw he was getting movies made from his shit. Pretty ok, kinda shoots too far when trying to hit the sweet spot of exposition.
Also read The Deep by Nick Cutter, kinda fell flat when the final twist completely made the infinitely more interesting beginning and premise moot.

[Anonymous No.22362079]

>>22362062
I'll have to check that out, thank you anon. I have ASOIAF in both ebook and audio, but it seems I'm cursed to never take up the task of reading it just like I never watched the show lol

[Anonymous No.22362081]

>>22362062
>The Deep by Nick Cutter,
read The Deep by John Crowley instead

[Anonymous No.22362098]

I find 50's science fiction to be too sentimental.

[Anonymous No.22362124]

>>22361959
Like he's going to know Dortmunder.

[Anonymous No.22362132]

House Thenn will probably ule Winterfell at the end of the series while Jon goes into exile with The Others through marriage pact, Rickon stays on Skagos uniting the Stark/Skagosis for the first time in years while Bran rules Westeros from his Weirwood throne in the cave with a trusted council keeping things in order. Arya is more than likely sailing west while Sansa will potentially gain Harrenhall

>>22362098

Too sincere

[Anonymous No.22362135]

>>22362098
That's a good thing!

[Anonymous No.22362139]

>>22362053
everything I read is fantasyslop so I'm embarrassed to talk about it

[Anonymous No.22362142]

>>22362098
post WWII was a weird time

[Anonymous No.22362159]

>>22362139
Tell me anon, tell me all of it. I exclusively read Warhammer/Black Library stuff until this year. Only know am I branching out and broadening my horizons. Still only like /sffg/ though

[Anonymous No.22362187]

>no one wants to write erotica the way I want
>writing my own thing is mind numbingly difficult
I kneel to writers. They're a bunch of talented people.

[Anonymous No.22362201]

>>22362053
Gap cycle, if you like rape and Cronenberg body horror. Metro 2033 for otherly darkness horror. Both are sf primarily, it's just that they have a horror aesthetic in them.

[Anonymous No.22362234]

>>22362187
It's hard work for everyone. The key is to practice practice practice.

[Anonymous No.22362238]

>>22362187
I feel you anon, I get daydream/shower thoughts and I feel so inspired to create something, then I feel like I'm worthless when I attempt to follow through.

[Anonymous No.22362272]

>>22362201
I couldn't find gap cycle, but I played metro and I've been interested grabbing the books

[Anonymous No.22362302]

>>22361314

I think most people recommend Player of Games, Consider Phlebas is both earlier on in his career but also really wants you to be invested in an outside take on a faction you don't really get; its not interesting to be against The Culture when you didn't really meet them at that point.

[Anonymous No.22362308]

>>22361959
Oh, I just generally know very little of sci-fi except the incredibly big names. Just not a series that's familiar to me.

[Anonymous No.22362359]

Science fiction is supposed to be read as short fiction. Support the magazines!

[Anonymous No.22362377]

>>22362359
They're so inconvenient to keep track of

[Anonymous No.22362406]

>>22362377
Most of them are fully online now with free stories every month. August issue of Clarkesworld had stories that are fresh and good sci fi. Here’s some shorter ones, not like the novelettes.
https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/case_08_23/
https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/ha_08_23/

[Anonymous No.22362589]

Does anyone know of any works similar to Ted Chiang's "Tower of Babylon" and "Hell is the Absence of God"? Really enjoyed the uncanny religious elements in them.

Also if there's a lot of other work like that, what is the genre called? God-fiction?

[Anonymous No.22362650]

>>22362589
Unsong?

[Anonymous No.22362823]

>>22359068
>Throw the book at him, Carrot
>Right, sir.
- Guards! Guards!

[Anonymous No.22363006]

>>22359359
Blood song is alright in the first couple books but falls off at the end. Covenant of Steel is pretty good across the three books the last one was published like 2-3 months ago. All in all I enjoy his writing style, but if you don’t like the first book in a the series don’t continue cause the style is consistent throughout the series.

[Anonymous No.22363032]

>>22359068
Dresden finding out he's been mind fucked by Mab in Small Favor hit me too hard for a series that's so mediocre. It probably the tensest I've ever felt reading a book
Umbral Diplomacy in The Wandering Inn
Baby Shields in Overlord
Arthur Dent and Fenchurch flying in So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish
Th ending of Konosuba had a smile plastered on my face

[Anonymous No.22363300]

>>22358944
worth reading even if I already saw the show and the books are incomplete?

[Anonymous No.22363359]

>>22359098
Completely and totally filtered

[Anonymous No.22363408]

>>22363300
yes

[Anonymous No.22363417]

>>22363300
no

[Anonymous No.22363572]

>>22363300
Definitely a different experience reading via the book povs
Makes Theon even more annoying to put up with as he fucks up all the time but makes other stuff more interesting.
Also in the later books the shows cut some of the more interesting things

[Anonymous No.22363749]

>>22363300
The series having 9-30 different narrators is a nightmare for me.

[Anonymous No.22363886]

>>22360731
I remember those books being pretty good when I read them as a kid. Idk how the writing holds up but the world building is fun.
As for girls dressing up as boys. Monstrous Regiment is good and fun.

[Anonymous No.22363904]

>>22363300
Yes, a good part of the story and characters had to be adapted or cut off for TV. As long as you understand that the last 2 books will probably never be published it's all good. Then you can move on to theorycrafting,

[Anonymous No.22363986]

Twitter is tracking shirt sales WSJ x Beams. Ranking:
>One Piece
>My Hero Academia
>Jujutsu Kaisen
>Sakamoto Days
>Blue Box
Nothing special but Nue is in fucking 7th place, how tf is it possible? It's literally a generic harem series of the heisei era.

[Anonymous No.22364047]

>>22359359
Blood Song is good, then from book 2 onwards its cuck shit.

[Anonymous No.22364050]

>>22363986
Imagine if you've been inundated with foreign fantasy for years, only getting a small drop of native folklore-inspired fantasy in obscure LNs and poorly written novels (which ironically usually have worse prose than those LNs) and then you're treated to something like this? Series like 鵺の陰陽師 and 呪術回戦 are a breath a fresh air for a Japan that's almost always been constantly focused on aping western fantasy. Now the exotic appeal has worn off, and they're hungry for something more familiar. None of this is to say that those more familiar concepts haven't met with great success in the past, but never anywhere near what we're seeing with 呪術回戦 now. Of course, it helps that it has an anime that is usually well drawn and animated, but the ugly ass manga is what pulled people in.

[Anonymous No.22364113]

>>22362359
>Science fiction is supposed to be read as short fiction.
I agree. Mainly because not all ideas have to be spun into full length novels and actually end up hurting because of that.

[Anonymous No.22364118]

>>22364110
Well?

[Anonymous No.22364123]

>>22359068
The conclusion and the final scene in The Revival (Steven King) was unexpected.

Getting into power fantasy and webnovels was one hell of a trip. Started with Cradle (which at the time was awesome) then moved onto chinese novels which were also fun with their never ending battles, powerups, cultivation etc. Then finally read Reverend Insanity. The most memorable thing about it was that main character was not saving the world for some woman, was not sacrificing himself for a woman or for anyone else. Man living freely, living for himself and no one else. This concept to me as westerner was totally foreign, a completely new way of thinking, at first I could not even understand it, my brain nearly shutdown for a second when I finally understood it, it was such an eye opener.

[Anonymous No.22364160]

>>22364123
>Revival
The only King novel that I've read as an adult. I loved it just as much as reading my father's King omnibus (containing Misery, Carrie, and The Shining) as an early teenager. You're right about the ending, also. Great stuff.

[Anonymous No.22364168]

>>22364050
Don't know about the first title you mentioned, the search on google comes up with some harem shit cover so we can safely skip it, but jujutsu kaisen is average at best, animation is ok because in this day and age it's standard to have good animation (artists are often outsourced/cheap, many new tools and technology make it easier and faster to produce good animation) but the important thing is that directing and story is average at best, the appeal is that it's new and from few episodes that I have watched characters mannerisms and speech is that of zoomers, I guess it's new and heavily promoted therefore it's popular.

[Anonymous No.22364180]

Board is too passive agressive today. Sticking to /sffg/ for now.

[Anonymous No.22364184]

>>22364180
>Board is too passive agressive today. Sticking to /sffg/ for now.
You are safe in the arms of /sffg/ now.

[Anonymous No.22364310]

>>22364050
>only getting a small drop of native folklore-inspired fantasy in obscure LNs and poorly written novels (which ironically usually have worse prose than those LNs)
>usually have worse prose than those LNs
Do the JP youths genuinely think like this? Nowadays all scifi/fantasy series selling in Japan are LNs pandering to horny teens not the actual literary books. But I don't speak the language and the Japanese literary equivalent of Shakespeare (also the world's first novel) is a fucking grooming harem and it was written by a woman so what do I know. Maybe it's deeply ingrained in their DNA.
You arguments at least make sense because Demon Slayer was a huge success despite being a mediocre fantasy compared to a typical western fantasy series.

[Anonymous No.22364345]

>>22364180
It's why I only use this thread
don't need to see a bunch of people getting really aggro over books half of them haven't read

[Anonymous No.22364369]

>>22364123
>The most memorable thing about it was that main character was not saving the world for some woman, was not sacrificing himself for a woman or for anyone else. Man living freely, living for himself and no one else. This concept to me as westerner was totally foreign, a completely new way of thinking, at first I could not even understand it, my brain nearly shutdown for a second when I finally understood it, it was such an eye opener.
Fang Yuan is a unique one of a kind MC indeed.
Is there any western novel featuring an MC like him (mentally stable but having no moral code)? Also the author should have a neutral stand, does not try to portray the protag as someone to be condemned from our ethics POV. I cannot find any.

[Anonymous No.22364370]

>>22364180
Couple of threads notwithstanding /lit/ is beyond useless most of the time. I mistakenly assumed people would get tired of smelling their own farts at some point.

[Anonymous No.22364401]

Guys i'm going back to wageslaving so i can buy folio editions of classic fantasy novels.

[Anonymous No.22364429]

>>22364401
What classic fantasy novels are available in Folio?

[Anonymous No.22364446]

>>22363048
SO true.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.22364456]

>>22358944
Rose/House - Arkady Martine (2023)

At the end of the 22nd century in China Lake, California, there's an AI called Rose House, which is a literal house in the desert, a desert rose. I don't mean that there's an AI installed in the house, I mean the house itself, and maybe more than that, is the AI. That's what it says right away and several times afterwards. There's a few attempts to play up the creepiness of the house basically being alive, but not nearly enough in terms of intensity or frequency. That sums up everything overall as well, there's not enough substance. This lack isn't merely because of its length, but rather seems to be a conscious choice, or at least I hope that it is.

The story could be construed as a murder mystery, but I think that would be misleading. There's a murder, but only minimal mystery. The real mystery is what Martine is going for. Instead, this is a story about unrequited desire, anxiety of influence, and a few less important things. It's possible that everything that happens is an allegory, but I'd only be guessing about what. There's a lot of rose symbolism, though I don't know much of it is intentional or coincidental references.

As for characters there's Selen(ite), which is a mineral also called desert rose. She's the only one the house will allow inside. Detective Maritza investigates the mystery, though that's describing it charitably. She's mostly just there to have the story told at her. There are other viewpoint characters, which function as plot devices, though not very effective ones. If the other characters have symbolic meanings they weren't readily apparent to me. At times it felt more like a performance that was being put on because its conductor wanted to amuse itself. Everyone else was merely a prop to be used for its play. That's a fine meta idea, but doesn't make for that entertaining of a story, for me at least.

I don't really any see reason for it to be set when it is, aside from trying to make the premise a bit more plausible. The only other indications of it not being contemporary are that people are casually mentioned to be regularly killed for their water rations and that there have been various police reforms. Nothing is seen of the former and the latter is mostly for plot convenience.

The ending is unsatisfying, not for its lack of resolution, because I think that's one of its primary themes, but because it's basically an antihumor joke that I'm unable to appreciate. There are multiple times where a characters tells you that the story is mocking noir tropes, though it didn't really have that many of them.

Overall, this is inoffensive and well-enough written. I feel that it needs to either be considerably shorter or longer, probably shorter. At least them it could be entirely about its gimmick and nothing else. Despite all that I've written above, I didn't dislike it. That's just how feelings work. Maybe it's me imagining what this could've been.

Rating: 3/5

[Anonymous No.22364516]

>>22364429
Almost all of them

[Anonymous No.22364524]

>>22364180
I only come to /lit/ for /sffg/, the rest of the board doesnt even seem like they talk about books

[Anonymous No.22364527]

>>22359068
>Severian taking off his shoes because he realizes everything is holy
>Severian denying polytheism and telling the man at the end of Urth of the New Sun that there is only one God and everything else is his creation
>the last page of The Unholy Consult

[Anonymous No.22364540]

>>22364456
>Arkady Martine (AnnaLinden Weller)
>russian jew
>dyke, lives with her wife
>Hugo/Nebula winner/finalist
>climate activist
the absolute state

[Anonymous No.22364547]

>>22364123
>The most memorable thing about it was that main character was not saving the world for some woman, was not sacrificing himself for a woman or for anyone else. Man living freely, living for himself and no one else. This concept to me as westerner was totally foreign, a completely new way of thinking
It's not a new way of thinking at all; it's the default. Most cultures, East and West, put a lot of effort into stopping people from thinking that way so that society can function.

[Anonymous No.22364557]

Why is every book a 3/5 lmao

[Anonymous No.22364572]

>>22364557
>why is the the median rating the most common?

[Anonymous No.22364575]

[Anonymous No.22364579]

>>22364540
I know, the absolute state of being on 4chan and caring about personal identity.

[Anonymous No.22364612]

>>22364579
Should I care about her book instead? From that retarded review it sounded like it's book was specifically written for lesbians by lesbian? The book always at least partially reflect the views of the author. I am a straight male, I don't read or care about roastie books, I definitely not gonna care about some lesbian jew hugo winner climate activist book or it's ideas.

[Anonymous No.22364650]

>>22364612
>The purpose of fiction is to be an echo chamber and only present experiences personally relevant to me because I'm unable to relate to anything that isn't part of my personal identity or beliefs.

[Anonymous No.22364662]

Hey guys I'm trying to remember a book I read but can't remember the title or author.
It's a female protagonist in the distant future. Earth society has been wrecked by a virus that was transmitted through radio from some kind of alien machine race which is building a massive device in space somewhere in the solar system. Radios are basically banned on Earth and in all systems. She has a suit that can transform based on her thoughts to suit her combat, space, and dress needs. Any help? Thanks

[Anonymous No.22364663]

>>22364650
I am okay with new experiences as long as they aren't liberal post modern trash.

[Anonymous No.22364666]

>>22364123
>the concept of being self-centered was totally foreign to me
top kek

[Anonymous No.22364668]

>>22364662
>It's a female protagonist
Stopped reading there.

[Anonymous No.22364671]

>>22364612
That seems shallow as fuck.

[Anonymous No.22364674]

>>22364540
>she has described herself as an "assimilated American Jew" and noted that, in the 1930s, Jews who moved to the United States from Europe "were basically playing classical music and inventing the Anglophone discipline of science fiction at the same time".
>inventing the Anglophone discipline of science fiction
Huh? Who is she referring to here? American science-fiction goes back to Hawthorne and Poe, neither of which were Jews. Of course, leaving America, "the Anglophone discipline of science fiction" has a history dating back even further, to names like Shakespeare, Bacon, Defoe, then Shelly of course, and H.G. Wells. So, which group of Jews pioneered Anglophone science fiction? I can think of one standout name and that's just Bloch. Perhaps she's only vaguely referring to publications here, not authors, in which case, she should make an effort to make herself clear.

[Anonymous No.22364675]

>>22364668
Spoilers she gets pregnant. It's heckin' wholesome.

[Anonymous No.22364688]

>>22364369
>I cannot find any.
Isn't this basically every "grimdark" fantasy book?

[Anonymous No.22364689]

>>22364675
Or maybe it was my dream. Pretty sure she got pregnant.

[Anonymous No.22364697]

>>22364666
I was taught to always be helpful, help those in need, and in general care about others and help them with their issues whenever I can. I have realized now how shitty my upbringing was.

[Anonymous No.22364711]

>>22364697
>meanwhile anon constantly posts about how much he hates n******, because they're so rude and selfish
>meanwhile anon constantly posts about chinese people being bugmen with no souls
Lol.

[Anonymous No.22364721]

>>22364697
>I was raised to be a good Christian
>That was the worst so now I'm an amoral sociopathic atheist nihilist
>Thanks Chinese web fiction! I owe everything I am today to you.

[Anonymous No.22364727]

>>22364697
>nooooo my parents telling me to be a decent person was a shitty upbringing
>what, people can be selfish? I never considered this and only recently encountered the concept in some xianxia webnovel
seriously anon?

[Anonymous No.22364732]

>>22364688
Western grimderp is usually about a washed up alcoholic ptsded ex hero who "doesn't care anymore" (secretly cares) but at a crucial moment he does the right thing and sacrifices himself to save others.

[Anonymous No.22364781]

>>22364732
Like what? Grimdark makes me think of stuff like Abercrombie's First Law where only the worst people get to win anything and any character that ever changes for the better loses and dies in some shitty way.

[Anonymous No.22364783]

>>22364711
You have a weird understanding of moral teaching to children. Not even Plato thought you could teach real morality to the youth, since they’re either naive or incapable of true thinking altogether. Most societies have a degree of telling children golden lies to get them to be manageable and follow something akin to social convention, but we’re not dumb enough to think a child will have a real moral compass.
This brings me to the next thing. We tell kids that they won’t discriminate another based on the colour of the skin, since racism is taught rather than learned. But I’d be hard pressed to think of a single child who ever took that to heart, since they either do not have a clue how to empathise with another child of any colour, or they will even participate in forms of cruelty (even racist kinds) if it suits them in situations, even short lived ones. As underdeveloped people, children cannot think of others. They cannot think of abstractions like good or bad. They cannot think of anything, other than what suits them; they don a lot of sweetness and faux niceness since it benefits them. They are rewarded for being cute or sweet or well mannered. But as soon as they could get immediate gratification or fulfil a desire, however short lived or meaningless, they would. That’s why kids fight their siblings or friends over playing with a toy, or even become nasty due to a need to inflate their egocentric whims. They can’t think.
This brings me to the next thing. People on 4chan are by and large children. Big digital babies who get to sate any single whim they want. They jack off on the “dedicated” hentai board or /gif/; they endlessly argue about some media franchise empire on /tv/, /co/, /a/, /v/, and /lit/; they live out life in a prison of their own ego, since one can wallow in self-pity or form little war bands of identity on /r9k/, /soc/, /fit/, and more; further, one can even become a supposed crusader and construct a hero character to live out in a game on /pol/, /his/, /lit/… the same goes for a “baddie” persona. We are all playing cops and robbers here, crying about infringements and basically living fully not even in the moment, but within this false delusion of a digital “me” that will never grow into a moral human being. We are a website of children and each board is yet another childish playground for full nappies and delusions and outbursts and tears and selfishness.
The rules on 4chan aren’t real rules. They’re golden lies told to us, in the hopes we might one day survive to become adults. But we won’t. Everyone knows that. The only rule is… Rule 34. Because we’re babies. Crying. Shitting. Laughing. Raging.

[Anonymous No.22364796]

4chan is not a person. Stop trying to "get" an anon website. You'll just end up reflecting on your own sensibilities.

[Anonymous No.22364817]

>>22364711
it subjective, I can apply reason and logic or I can choose not to.
I am selfish but that does not stop me from hating rude and selfish n*ggers.

[Anonymous No.22364830]

Do you have a reply for everything? Shut up for once.

[Anonymous No.22364837]

>>22364796
It’s not an “anon website” since we all know everyone here is the fat slob from pic related. Everyone else who wanders in is either 1) underage or 2) lost woman/tranny.

[Anonymous No.22364841]

>>22364796
4chan was an ethos.
Now it's a manifesto.

[Anonymous No.22364869]

>>22364727
Assuming you are white and grew up in decent white family, were you not brought up like that? of course I have done several selfish things myself over the years but they were small things and I have always felt guilty about them later on, it was not a right thing to do and so on. Today I ask myself why I cared and worried about any of it.
This type of mentality was imposed on me from young age and it shaped and formed my character for a long time, my way of thinking. Thanks to some shitty chinese webnovel I have finally realized whats going on. Change is never easy but I have taken the first step.

[Anonymous No.22364883]

>>22364783
Provide some examples of moral human beings please.

[Anonymous No.22364888]

>>22364841
>4chan was an ethos.
It was a teenage moot ripping literally all of the 2chan code and adding some translation plug-in he didn’t make, so he go post 2D porn and then, wait for it boys, repost that oh so raunchy and ribald humour from Something Awful.
This site exists by and large to fuel maladjusted yet gutless young men’s need for risqué content. It’s like those old erotic wood blocks from feudal Japan, except it’s for the scum of a failed future earth instead of the buck-toothed nobility of Honshu.

[Anonymous No.22364904]

>>22364888
Reductive, dismissive, and misguided.

[Anonymous No.22364905]

>>22364711
>>22364817
Why do people act like hypocrisy is a bad thing or irrational? It's the most rational, most natural, and most intuitive standpoint.
Criticizing someone for being irrational is like criticizing a soldier for wanting the enemy to die and himself to live.
I want to eat cows, I don't want them to eat me. I want lots of money, I don't want people I don't like to have lots of money.
You could say that a society can't be built on hypocrisy, but that's only using a naive and unrealistic static balance, whereas in reality a shifting dynamic balance is always the case. The entire history of civilization has been founded on hypocrisy, a continuous spiral of each segment of the population oppressing some other segment until they either turn the tables or die out. And whenever you find a group of enlightened souls living in perfect harmony, they're accomplishing it by group hypocrisy to everyone NOT in their group!

[Anonymous No.22364911]

>>22364905
You seem to have conflated hypocrisy and double standards.

[Anonymous No.22364916]

>>22364783
Doesn't this imply morality itself is just a delusion?
If the natural state is to be without morals, almost everyone acts without them at all times, and the only "morals" even taught or understood to the vast majority of people are simply blatant lies meant to control and cow them so they can be ruled more easily, then why would "morality" be a desirable thing?

[Anonymous No.22364919]

I'm trying to find a book I previously read. Science fiction, there is some spray or medicine or something which makes the antagonist super intelligent. The antagonist is able to change his body to produce pheromones and can also analyze people so well that he can just determine the exact correct sentence to tell them so they someone will just die from the brain imploding. The story involves the protagonist trying to find and stop the super intelligent guy. I think it was a philip dick book but I'm not sure. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

[Anonymous No.22364922]

>>22364919
Understand - Ted Chiang

[Anonymous No.22364948]

>>22364922
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.22364955]

>>22364905
Hypocrisy: Do as I say, not as I do
Double standard: x isn't treated the same as y for an arbitrary reason

Hypocrisy: Everyone should be a vegan, which I will never be.

Double standard: We can eat cows and pigs, but not cats and dogs!?

[Anonymous No.22364990]

>>22364456
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.22364996]

>>22359448
At least the reviews are *something*, and not just some Malazan and Reverend Insanity shitposts :]

But that's just me

[Anonymous No.22365001]

>>22364904
>freedoms
This place is heavily moderated, even like some subreddits are. Discussion is always stagnated by some Hall Monitor type sperg who used to force you to stack chairs a certain way. There is a widespread refusal to deviate from autistic and prescriptive dicta. This either comes from the users’ passivity, or our entire lack of interest in life altogether. The laws of autism are not even established by the majority anyway, but a loud and perpetually unemployed minority who get upset if you interact naturally with another human being. If we ever did anything to liberate anyone or anything, it was totally trumped by other communities. Wow. We hacked Palin’s email a decade or more ago? One Discord server had some of the most dramatic military leaks recently, and it was more than anything we did here. 4chan has not ever stood up for freedom. If Anonymous did, we shunned them. We just sit in malaise like the mentally ill shut-ins we are.
>internet subculture
This becomes utterly boring after you turn 20. But 4chan didn’t ever have a distinct subculture, especially since early to 2016 /lit/ was just millennial college age dorks being sarcastic and milquetoast. Now /lit/
>memes
It’s all forced and reposted to death, especially anything that might be picked up people who aren’t even sole users of the holy land, since most memes are going to just be used by r/4chan or Twitter or iFunny or KiwiFarms or whatever. We are all just the same customers, dying slowly on some shitty sites. Wait a minute! Wait until YouTube gets a whiff of this meme from this side of Tumblr.
>>22364916
There is a supreme being, who is perfect. It is desirable to be moral, for the supreme being is infinitely good (morally speaking). It just isn’t obvious to everyone, since they have stuff to learn or are just totally lost souls. A true philosopher like Socrates or Plato can align with the good of this supreme being; he then teaches a class of virtuous people about morality. The rest of us are just told golden lies, since they don’t truly understand what is good or what is bad. Haven’t you heard all those people who shrug their shoulders and say everything is morally grey, that all beauty is arbitrary, that all variations of an art form are equally valid? They cannot reason their way out of a paper bag. They will behave in a society if they’re told the golden lie and given institutions to support them on their merry way in what must otherwise be a totally confusing life of “nothing but grey”

[Anonymous No.22365025]

>>22364905
>We should be nice and kind (to the people we care about)
> Ah ha, yet you exploit others! What a hypocrite!
>No, you weren't aware of the implications. We don't have to be nice or kind to people we don't care about.
>That's not fair! You didn't make that qualification explicit!
>Deal with it

[Anonymous No.22365040]

>completey dead thread
>post thoughts about a book
>off-topic spam ensues

[Anonymous No.22365048]

>>22365040
It’s the hall monitor! Hi, hall monitor! Maybe it’s time to go to a fucking book club! You know, the place where people actually have read the same book as you at the same time so you can discuss it while the thoughts are fresh and hot to go!

[Anonymous No.22365055]

>>22364516
Be more specific

[Anonymous No.22365058]

>>22364996
His *reviews* aren't really about books, he pretends to review some book but then goes off on a tangent in the first paragraph and talks some irrelevant and unrelated nonsense.

[Anonymous No.22365061]

The absolute state of this fucking thread.

[Anonymous No.22365062]

>>22365001
You seriously, no joke, being completely honest here, need to go outside.

[Anonymous No.22365068]

>>22365040
>thinking people actually read books here

[Anonymous No.22365071]

>>22365062
You can talk about cha cha?
Jump in the line.
Okay! I believe you!
Rock ya body!!!!! Shake shake shake senora

[Anonymous No.22365072]

>>22365058
I don't claim they're reviews. I usually call them write-ups or similar. I have no control over the expectations of anons or them believing what they want to believe in contradiction to what I state they are. They serve the purpose I want to them regardless of what others believe their purpose ought to be.

[Anonymous No.22365078]

>>22365001
Turn off the wi-fi for an hour everyday.

[Anonymous No.22365080]

>>22365072
>They serve the purpose
What purpose?

[Anonymous No.22365082]

>>22365055
All the good ones

[Anonymous No.22365089]

So, books?

[Anonymous No.22365102]

>>22365080
There is this very personal idea that everything is a waste of time unless something comes out of it. In this case he's being productive by posting a review. But unlike youtubers he does it for free.
I could be wrong though.

[Anonymous No.22365103]

>>22365001
>There is a supreme being, who is perfect. It is desirable to be moral, for the supreme being is infinitely good
The supreme being is also infinitely evil, and infinitely amoral. We all embody the supreme being and our collective nature is the nature of that being.

[Anonymous No.22365105]

>>22364837
>tfw this was this year
lol. People really feel they are anonymous here?
The alphabet agencies allow us to operate because all the ducks are houses in a known location.

[Anonymous No.22365117]

>>22365078
Woah. Okay buddy. I didn’t realise you had a life! I’m embarrassed now! Little old me… I just never seemed to work that life thing out. I’m sure the guy (you) who contributes to that grand discussion of saying the same shit over and over about Bakker and cucks and webnovels and how you must read the charts and how Dunsany BTFO Sandersneed and how Lovecraft kameheemed Jack Vance with the help of Conan the Siberian himself who leapt from the page and personally beheaded the Cradle poster sneed Chuck weed n seed n ritual poster oh that guy!!! Woke! Woke! Woke! Omg! World fantasy award is woke! I don’t know why!

[Anonymous No.22365125]

>>22365117
You are overdosing on memes.

[Anonymous No.22365136]

>>22365080
Of being a way to express my personal thoughts about I read. The tripcode is to make them easier to find on the archive. I didn't use one at all first. They're also on Goodreads.

>>22365102
Nah, I do lot of stuff where nothing comes of it, delete a lot, and otherwise be unproductive. I mean technically receiving free books that haven't been published yet isn't free, but close enough. I'm not against monetization, but I don't think that would go well.

[Anonymous No.22365138]

>>22365105
Most big websites are just honey traps of surveillance, both for institutions of Big Brother and also just to shill the latest Product on our pages, as we scroll through more slop.

[Anonymous No.22365142]

>>22365089
For me? It's Hothouse.

[Anonymous No.22365152]

>>22365117
Who the fuck has ever compared Dunsany with Sandersoi

[Anonymous No.22365155]

>>22365103
Not quite. That amoral and evil part is the false son known as Belial. He has crept into your life. Did you choose him? The true transmission comes from outside the universe.

[Anonymous No.22365162]

OMG there is a Pomona Communications graduate without a basic understanding of statistics or algebra preparing a powerpoint presentation for his boss at a local startup that sells male underwear.
Nothing could protect us from that. We are literally helpless

[Anonymous No.22365170]

>>22365155
>dualism
You're deluded, there is no separation or opposition to unity.

[Anonymous No.22365186]

>>22365136
>Of being a way to express my personal thoughts about I read
I can understand that, it's too bad that your personal thoughts are those of a cuck

[Anonymous No.22365190]

>>22365155
The same Asperger’s addled gargoyle who tries to control the actions of faceless strangers in the /sffg/ also ritualistically posts about the evil Sanderson as opposed to his chosen head canon heroes: Dunsany being one of the most powerful of these Marvel Avengers.
>>22365162
Am I supposed to know what those made up North American Great Satan namesakes are? Down with your empire of sin and filth. Let it fucking burn. Us non-American chads shall form a Fellowship of Cyborg Ninjas in the ashes.

[Anonymous No.22365210]

>>22365186
Fortunately for me that has no effect on anything whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.22365227]

>>22365138
>he thinks it hasn't been like this since the start

[Anonymous No.22365233]

>>22365190
Top 10 favorite sf/f authors?

[Anonymous No.22365234]

>>22365227
It was designed that way… the perfect system of control…

[Anonymous No.22365235]

>>22365210
You are the worst type of a person. You know your deficiencies yet you do nothing to fix them, you do not want to fix them because you don't care about them and probably even enjoy being that way.

[Anonymous No.22365237]

>>22365190
>oh no nobody discusses the actual books anymore
Well done proving your own point by posting an essay worth of giant meaningless off-topic schizoposts.

[Anonymous No.22365250]

>>22365190
kek pic related was my post from a few months ago
it was said in earnest anon, I don't know why you're so upset

[Anonymous No.22365286]

>>22365235
That's true.

[Anonymous No.22365300]

This seems like a relevant enough time to state a few of my reasons for doing stuff again.

Reading: entertainment

Writing: Personal thoughts. The main success in the thread has been others also writing about books more. It's easier to see on Goodreads because I can tell by how many have marked a book as to-read after I post about it rather easily.

Goodreads group: Make it easier for anons to find similar anons and what they've read and liked. Have at least a flawed way to see what the consensus of ratings and how popular books are here due to often a few anons pushing the same few books over and over again or otherwise creating false impressions. This seems to have been somewhat successful.

Mega: I disliked how the same few charts were posted in every thread and I didn't like individual ones being included in the OP. It's also an interesting thing to do. This has been very successful in terms of there being less chart spam, but maybe those who stopped did so for other reasons.

Warosu: the shortened archive link is because I didn't like having all the current threads linked in the OP, which was sometimes 5 or more. I don't think the previous thread needs to be linked even. This has been successful overall.

I created the threads for a long time to establish the standard or at least habituate the following thread creators to go along with it. This has been surprisingly successful as there as been minimal disruption to the template.

If there's anything you want to ask, then ought to do so.

[Anonymous No.22365319]

>>22365233
1. Philip K Dick—love VALIS the most; it’s better than most literature to me. Very aligned with my paranoid and religious outlook, and I somewhat copied him as a person throughout my first year of college. Really enjoy his early short stories like “Wub” and the gun one, which I read recently. But he’s obviously more adept when he’s in a novel, since he’s said the speed just made him write like a maniac non stop until the novel was complete, even after he sobered and quit speed.
2. H.P. Lovecraft—read most of his stuff but working through ghostwritten works and some stuff brought out posthumously; he was superb at sonnets and a genius of short fiction, just a shame he never got to see people enjoy his long form stuff like Kadath, Dexter, and Mountains since he never knew he could soar in a novel
3. Poul Anderson—Broken Sword opened me up to Fantasy once more, but I also really like his broader approach to life and fiction with a sort of free formal outlook. I’ve enjoyed Star Fox immensely, and want to get into the Flandry stuff as well as the early short stories, but just missed some cheap editions of these on eBay sadly
4. REH—Conan and Solomon can have the most satisfying form and prose in short form fiction. I particularly like Tower of the Elephant
4. Wu Cheng’en—mixing gods and demons fiction into a comedy and satire of broader social movements is genius, while remaining some of my earliest exposure to fantasy tropes as a kid. Just makes me happy going through the memorable adventures of Monkey.
5. Terry Pratchett—childhood favourite of mine and smart enough to poke fun at the way spec fic was going with cookie cutter characters and even gamification
6. Ligotti—he’s fantasy to me. I really enjoy the prose.
7. Lord Dunsany—love his prose and get mesmerised when reading his stories and mythopoeia. It feels like a song of an alien heaven.
8. Steven Erikson—love the layered prose and the novel approach to plot that doesn’t hold the reader’s hand nor use exposition
9. C.L. Moore—one of the best weird fiction writers to mix with S&S, but she also had some pretty cool approaches to prose overall
10. I could put many here, but I really enjoy Gene Wolfe’s short prose. His novels are interesting too but I think they’re a little too overpraised compared to his novellas and short stories. I know he’s usually characterised as a puzzle maker but I find some of his stories to be more like a poem expanded into a tale or picture, while it has many moving parts.
>>22365237
I don’t discuss books with strangers on the internet usually. Even reading groups are tedious because many people just don’t actually know what’s going on in a paragraph. Reading is almost fundamentally solitary. I often just come here to shill my views and those I feel are aligned with my mission.

[Anonymous No.22365353]

>>22365319
Nice blogpost faggot. Nobody cares

[Anonymous No.22365366]

>>22365353
Don’t care? But you seem pretty upset. You sitting there reading through my posts. Trembling perhaps? I’m intrigued.

[Anonymous No.22365367]

Was this guy a Jonas reference?

[Anonymous No.22365389]

1. Bakker-sick battles, good words and sentencesetc , truth that shines

[Anonymous No.22365397]

>>22365389
That’s pretty funny. Are you going to be here all night? You can’t waste this good talent on these schmucks. Come on man. I’m talking about taking it to the big leagues. Maybe you can get some likes on some comments section!

[Anonymous No.22365429]

>>22364922
Do mine now, faggot. What the fuck!
>>22364662

[Anonymous No.22365464]

>>22365429
I would if I had any idea what it was.

[Anonymous No.22365555]

Guys, i made a question.

[Anonymous No.22365567]

>>22365555
My question is… why are you adept in the Jack of Spades Warren but not sucking up my BBC’s jizzum right now? I need to cum down your throat as I merge with your mind and absorb you for my magic.
>t. Quick Ben

[Anonymous No.22365594]

>>22365555
based

[Anonymous No.22365793]

>>22365367
I'm gonna go with no, but it's possible and hilarious to think about.

[Anonymous No.22365805]

>>22365464
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I'm hosed.

[Anonymous No.22365989]

So that twist I mentioned earlier in The Only Good Indian successfully got me interested in commiting to finishing it. I picked up the book cause it's a Native American author writing a horror novel about a Wendigo going after a group of friends. At this point in the book I would recommend for others to read it but it does take its time to get the ball rolling.

[Anonymous No.22366031]

>>22362053
Library at Mount Char

[Anonymous No.22366137]

Make a new one, you fags.

[Anonymous No.22366161]

>>22366137
Only page 9

[Anonymous No.22366192]

May the rest of the board die so that we may live

[Anonymous No.22366206]

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