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>be me
>read picrel
>become unable to read anything other than picrel
What do? Literally all other novels are just descriptions of "X launched attack on Y", "L fell in love with M", "E betrayed F", "B recieved salvation through C" etc without any new imput or insight. Philosophical and/or religious "works" just verbalise the common and obvious patterns of causation in inadequate statements in the lines of "X causes Y", "L can be percieved through M" ect without any deeper insight either.
Picrel, however, attributes to ordinary and extraordinary events completely new qualities which transcends the ordinary human experience, making any second-hand description of those qualities impossible and useless.
Is there any possibility (or even necessity) to read and enjoy inferiour literature ever again?

>> No.21864191

>>21864154
This will trick a few. Nice strategy

>> No.21864192

100 Years of Lonelines

Mason & Dixon

Magic Mountain

The Master and Margarita

Read those.

>> No.21864269

now I want to read it and own a tin drum and beat the shit out of it

>> No.21864308

>>21864154
>Picrel, however, attributes to ordinary and extraordinary events completely new qualities which transcends the ordinary human experience
Can you give an example? Kinda hard to understand

>> No.21864335

>>21864191
I know you'll laugh at me anon but i'm completely serious
>>21864192
>transcendent qualities
>recommends american authors
ishygddt

>> No.21864347

>>21864308
One can't give you an example, that's the whole point
The book describes reality in way that has never been described before, you can't get that experience unless reading it

>> No.21864358

>>21864269
I actually did buy a tin drum after finishing the book, as the urge got too strong eventually
Worth every penny even though none of us can get on Oskar's level

>> No.21864369

>>21864347
Uhh how about an excerpt

>> No.21864372

>>21864154
Rushdie explicitly drew on Blechtrommel for Midnight's Children. Protagonist as metaphor for national history. MC also slaps and in some cases exceeds the Tin Drum, would be curious what you think of it if you like Grass so much

>> No.21864388

>>21864369
It's literally just allegory. A 3 year old boy decides to stop growing and goes through life during world war 2. The book is his memoir from the asylum. It is German Magical realism. Anon is just badly read so it is completely new for him.

>> No.21864404

>>21864154
Go read Borges

>> No.21864409

I read Gunter Grass's The Rat and vowed to never read another book by him. The Rat is one of the worst novels I have ever read.

>> No.21864450

>>21864154
Read the first 100 pages but got filtered because my German wasn't good enough to enjoy. But you and MRR have convinced me, I'll try again

>> No.21864462

>>21864409
Is it about a rat?

>> No.21864489

>>21864308
He means magical realism, probably.
>>21864335
>filtered by Thoreau

>> No.21864650

>>21864369
Just read it you lazy fuck
Excerpts from my native language translation won't help you
>>21864388
On the contrary my dear friend, i have read enough to notice writings that are out of the ordinary
>>21864372
Haven't dared to pick it up properly, as some say it's just a cheap rip-off of The Tin Drum, and on superficial thumbing through it didn't seem as interesting. In which way do you feel it exceeds Grass? Might consider picking it up again

>> No.21864662

>>21864450
Good luck m8, you're in for a ride
It won't be easy though, as some germans even are said to struggle with the book's dense text

>> No.21864687

>>21864462
No. It's a navel-gazing novel about how successful his novel The Tin Drum was, oddly intercut with short chapters about a doomsday scenario where superintelligent rats take over the world after mankind's extinction. Then there were some really shitty bits about "dude save the forests! If you don't you kill muh Fairy Tales and muh Brothers Grimm". The Brothers Grimm stuff was really fucking stupid. The dude couldn't ever get over the success of the Tin Drum and forever lived in its shadow.

>> No.21864738

>>21864650
>Just read it you lazy fuck
>Excerpts from my native language translation won't help you
I'm a kraut though. Just post an excerpt

>> No.21864767

>>21864687
still thousands times better than ein weites Feld

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>>21864738
You better be grateful you lazy nigger
Long time since i have looked at it in it's original krauttongue
My local library has a german copy of it, i'd admire it everytime when going there and dream of reading it someday

>> No.21865016

>>21864874
Hey that's good shit. Reminds me of a passage from McCarthy Suttree also describing a moth, though the syntax here is more complex. Might actually pick up this novel

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>>21865016
>Might actually pick up this novel
Do yourself a favour
Yeah the moth is an important character here, as they were the first creatures that Oskar ever heard

>> No.21865592

>>21864154
>I write too! who are your influences?
>Gunter Grass...
>Oh my God! The first time I read the tin drum it was a celebration. I mean, I celebrated and yet I wept. I wanted to dance myself into oblivion.
I heard a pseud say this at a college bar.

>> No.21865821

>>21864191
The ">be me" gives it away immediately unfortunately.