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12925844 No.12925844 [Reply] [Original]

Okay I'm 10 pages in and this nigga is still describing the feeling of stretching his legs on a bed. Is this some kind of a joke?

>> No.12925857

I think you may find you have picked up a copy of Harry Potter by mistake!

>> No.12925896

>>12925844
Maybe try Dan Brown if it's action you're looking for.

>> No.12925897

>>12925844
Sounds like Oblomov

>> No.12925929

>>12925896

Not him, but Proust exaggerates on the digressions, there’s no doubt about it.

I remember Tolstoy saying something like: “Turgenev’s opinion that one can’t spend ten pages describing what N.N. did with his hand helped me very much”, and that’s very true. If a writer lets his pleasure with playing with language take hold of him and can’t cut material because he is in love with everything he writes than in the end there’s going to be a lot of problems with the flow of the work. It’s no wonder that few people read Proust in contrast with Tolstoy, even when both writers were very good and worked with vast panoramas.

>> No.12925936

>>12925897

I just finished reading The Precipice and I think it's his greatest work. Last week I was shitting on Goncharov because I'd read The Same Old Story & Oblomov and figured he was a one trick pony but I was quite pleasantly surprised.

>> No.12925943

>>12925844
The firs 70 pages are the most annoying part of Swann’s Way, he never stops with the descriptions but I started to like them better after about 70 pages in because more things start happening

>> No.12925979

>>12925857
kek

>> No.12926016

>>12925943
This was my experience too. Once Odette and Swann start it's absolutely amazing.

>> No.12926700

>>12925844
You gotta be in a state of having nothing else to do to read Proust, I don't mean that as criticism I just feel like approaching it with a zen attitude is necessary for enjoyment .

>> No.12926765

>>12926700
>you have to be bored out of your mind to enjoy Proust
That's a terrible recommendation, anon.

>> No.12926783

>>12926016
thiss. i'm currently reading sodom and gomorrah and it just keeps getting better bois

>> No.12926813

>>12926765
No not bored, maybe bad phrasing on my part but I meant being completely free of other priorities (at least mentally).

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12926825

Took me a few attempts to get through early Swann's Way but ISOLT turned into one of my favorites of all time

>> No.12926982

>>12925844
Just wait till you get to the cathedral part.

>> No.12926993

>>12925844
I think the book is a meme. I have tried reading it at least four times and never managed to even get to the last quarter. There is no plot, no over theme (unless you toss the word recollection) no development no struggle no philosophy (it's so vague that you can see whatever you want in it). There is no symbolism, a few "oh that is a very interesting way to phrase it like that"s. If someone wrote those books now they would be laughed at. On the other hand people say the very same things about James Joyce's Portrait of An Artist As a Young Man and I have actually liked that.

>> No.12927001

>>12926993
It's the greatest brainlet filter ever put to paper.

>> No.12927026

>>12927001
You prove my point. I think it is written so that people who think of themselves as superior can brag about it. It is basically empreror is naked trick

>> No.12927033

>>12925929
The difference being a Tolstoy could have spent ten pages on that and still made it worth while, though a paragraph would have been too much for a Turgenev.

>> No.12927034

Did you know that Western civilization once descended into isolated barbarism because it forgot the language that, coincidentally, contained the words used for philosophical discourse?

>> No.12927044

>>12927034
Isn't that the idea of Tower of Babel story? It's also why people from both right and left ideologies fight over the control of language.

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12927248

>>12925844
>be brainlet
>hear that Proust is formidable to brainlets
>read Proust
>find him formidable

>> No.12927275

>>12925844
it's difficult to read and requires a certain state of mind, but when it clicks it REALLY clicks

>> No.12928305

>>12926993
Good if bait

>> No.12928326

>>12926993
>book is bad because it doesn't play along with my failed author english teacher's demands of a novel he needs to work his parasitic craft