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Recommend me great literature that is not from a country in red.

>> No.9986777

100 years of solitude

>> No.9986788

The Shahnameh

>> No.9986803

The Spoonfeeder

>> No.9986819

Doctor Glas by Hjalmar Söderberg

>> No.9986822

Anything by Strindberg

>> No.9986827
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>>9986773
Gogol was Ukrainian even if it was part of the Russian empire at the time.

>> No.9986830

>>9986773
The evenings, by Gerard Reve

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>>9986773
South American and Mexican lit from 1955-2000 is fantastic, and if you arent aware I cant help you.

Here is Sudan because hardmode.

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>>9986773
>colors India and not South America

>> No.9986845

Anyone know any good Mongolian literature?

>> No.9986852

>>9986773
https://openseadragon.github.io/openseadragonizer/?img=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redditmedia.com%2FyeQNM8SNh9VCLdMKdr59kGQ47xjRn-g_g-cqqYzbMlI.jpg%3Fs%3Dff9c748083a2048cd367eb41a1d25cb0&encoded=true


"Best" books by country (I do not really agree, but it is funny to see Disgrace in S. Africa)

>> No.9986858

>>9986838
Hi, Cliff.

>> No.9986861

>>9986838
2nd tayeb salih good write

>> No.9986864

>>9986858
I am not Cliff, but it sounds as though he has good taste in books.

>> No.9986873

Portugal: Book of Disquiet, /lit/ loves it

Netherland: Nescio's Amsterdam Stories

Nigeria: My Life in the Bush of Ghosts

South Korea: Shadow of Arms

>> No.9986895

Belgium : Verhaeren
Netherlands : Vondel
Portugal : Camoes
wtf you left Austria ?? Broch
Poland : Potocki (even if written in French)
Yugoslavia : Pavic
Persia : Rumi

>> No.9986927

Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie - Half of a Yellow Sun

>> No.9986930

Things Fall Apart

>> No.9986938

A N D O R R A
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>> No.9986943

savage detectives

my diary senpai

>> No.9986955

>>9986773
Portugal:
The Maias by Eça de Queiroz
Lucio's Confession by Mario Sa-Carneiro
The Keeper of Sheep by Fernando Pessoa

>> No.9986966

>>9986955
Os Lusíadas

>> No.9986969

>>9986930
OP specifically asked for great literature, not affirmative action YA lit

>> No.9986972

>>9986845

Alastalon Salissa

>> No.9986981

Is there any good African literature? Especially anything written in the Zulu language?

>> No.9986983

Skylark
Borges
The Feast of the Goat
The Kingdom if this World

>> No.9986990

>>9986983
*the kingdom of this world

>> No.9986992

Erik Gustaf Geijer
Esaias Tegnér
>Emanuel Swedenborg
Strindberg
>Selma Lagerlöf

>> No.9986993

>>9986773
Muh Chad Algerian goalkeeper

>> No.9987193

>>9986864
>I am not Cliff, but it sounds as though he has good taste in books.
You are fooling no one, /Cliff/.

>> No.9987197

Thomas Bernhard
Peter Handke
Max Frisch
Friedrich Dürrenmatt

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New Zealand

Recommendation by proxy (was told about her, haven't read her but want to)

>> No.9987230

>>9986773
Anything by Willem Frederik Hermans.
A few things by Harry Mulisch.
Quite a lot (especially the essays) that Simon Vestdijk wrote.
A lot by Hugo Klaus.

>> No.9987252

>>9986969
:^/

>> No.9987263

>>9986773
Poetic Edda

>> No.9987266

>>9987252
>:^DDDDD

>> No.9987268
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Memoirs of a Lithuanian intellectual imprisoned in a Nazi concetration camp. Very ironic, pokes fun both at Nazis and Commies.

>> No.9987291

Bible

>> No.9987311

>>9986981
The lost empire of wiwuz by King N. Chit

>> No.9987327

>>9986983
>>9986990
>The Kingdom of This World

I was a little underwhelmed by this. Have you read any other Carpentier, and how would you compare them to Kingdom?

>> No.9987343

>>9986773

Poland:
-Adam Mickiewicz
-Bruno Schulz
-Witold Gombrowicz
-Czesław Miłosz
-Henryk Sienkiewicz
-Bolesław Prus
-Stanisław Ignacy Witkiewicz
-Stanisław Lem
-Tadeusz Borowski
(for starters)

>> No.9987357

>>9986969
Things Fall Apart is actually a proto-fascist novel

>> No.9987362

>>9987357
It really is.

>> No.9987365

>>9987199
NZ is coloured in though

>> No.9987375

Bolano, Marquez, Vargas Llosa, Borges, Donoso, Saramago, Pessoa, Antunes, Jansson, Paasilinna

>> No.9987386

>>9987362
I know, that's why I wrote it.

>> No.9987400

>>9986983
The Feast of the Goat was pretty good

>> No.9987455
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Goethe, Mann, Milton, Cervantes, Dante, Homer, Virgil

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The Philippines: Noli Me Tangere by Jose Rizal
There are very few novels which carry as much importance to a single society as this. You'd be hard put to travel through a Filipino city without seeing this author popping up somewhere. I live in Montreal, Canada and even here there's a whole park devoted to him. Definately check it out.

>> No.9987467

>>9987455
did you even read OP's post?

>> No.9987474

>>9987467
None of them were born in those countries

>> No.9987520

>>9987474
All of them were born in the red countries.What the fuck anon?

>> No.9987522

>>9987386
You're Chinua Achebe!?!?

>> No.9987523

>>9986773

>Colors India and China but not Latin America

The Aleph
Ficciones
Hopscotch
Southern Highway
100 Years of Solitud
Sunstone
Pedro Paramo
The Tunnel
The Feast of Goats
2666
The Savage Detectives

>> No.9987553

>>9987520
A lot of those countries weren't countries when those authors were born. Vergil was born in the Roman Empire not Italy for example

>> No.9987606

>>9987553
Fucking autism

>> No.9987615

>>9986773
The Arabian Nights

>> No.9987617

>>9987606
Jokes on you I was only pretending to be Autism.

>> No.9987630

>>9986773
but that's all of civilization anon...

>> No.9987639

>>9986981
Most Sub-Saharan African lit is in English or French for obvious reasons
Try Wole Soyinka, Death and the King's Horseman is pretty good

>> No.9987658
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The Cairo Trilogy by Naguib Mahfouz.

>> No.9987698
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Read this boys

>> No.9987706

>>9986773
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Viaje a la Semilla by Carpentier, La Noche Boca Arriba by Cortázar, and most stuff by Jorge Luis Borges

>> No.9987714

>>9986773
Alamut by Vladimir Bartol (Slovenian author)

>> No.9987760

>>9987327
Not the same guy but this>>9987706

>> No.9987790

>>9986927
Came here to recommend this. Long live Biafra.

>> No.9987798

Afrikaans authors are good. Too lazy to name them.

>> No.9987825

>>9987798
Because you're a pleb and couldn't name one if you tried

>> No.9987841

A Bend in the River
A Brief History of Seven Killings

>> No.9987847

>>9987327
The only other Carpentier I've read was The Chase. I didn't like it as much as The Kingdom of this World to be desu.

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>>9986773
>great literature
>Slovakia

>> No.9988053

>>9988016
That's the Czech Republic you dumb burger

>> No.9988079

>>9988053

To quote op "Recommend me great literature that is not from a country in red."
The Czech Republic is a country in red and next to it, not in red, is Slovakia.
I'm a fucking Czech dude so I'm pretty aware of what is and where is the Czech Republic.

>> No.9988094

>>9986773
Africa has nothing of valuable literature that the masses should read and know about

>> No.9988217

>>9988094
>who is coetzee

>> No.9988251

>>9987230
Permission to add Cees Nooteboom.

>> No.9988319

Harry Martinsson

>> No.9988325

Kallocain

>> No.9988814

Portugal: Eça de Queiróz, Camões, Fernando Pessoa, Bocage and Padre Antônio Vieira

Brazil: João Guimarães Rosa, Machado de Assis, João Cabral de Melo Neto, Carlos Drummond de Andrade and Clarice Lispector

>> No.9988826

>>9987455
>can't read
>talks about literarure

yup, I'm on /lit/

>> No.9988858

>>9986773
at least we can apologize
anything by borges
the day lasts more than a hundred years
the buru quartet
things fall apart
my name is red
a bend in the river

>> No.9988890

>>9986773
why are australia and canada highlighted when even brazil isnt?

>> No.9988898

Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe

>> No.9990134

stuff by Roberto Bolano
like
savage detectives
or 2666

>> No.9990140

Borges

>> No.9990164

The Qur'an.
The Bible.
The Egyptian "Book of the Dead."

Also: Octavio Paz, Borges, and Muammar Ghaddaffi.

>> No.9990168

>>9988890
come to brasil

>> No.9990171

>Canada is in red

I can name more Latin American writers than Canadian writers. How many great Canadian writers can you name? Are they comparable to the literature of Latin America or the Middle East?

>> No.9990179

>>9990171
come to brasil

>> No.9990192

>>9986773

Maldoror. French-language tradition but Uruguayan through and through.

>> No.9990195

>>9990171

It's not fair to compare a country with a smaller population than California to an entire continent/region.

>> No.9990234

>>9987311
I almost googled it

>> No.9990322

>>9990171
Margaret Atwood
Alice Munro
Saul Bellow
William Gibson

>> No.9990351

>>9986773
There're some from my 3 million population country that are worth a read, but there's no chance those will ever get translated into English. Especially because of the culture-specific items.

>> No.9990460

>>9988079
The implication was clearly that Slovakia wad in red.

>> No.9990655

The Day Lasts More Than a Hundred Years - Kyrgyzstan

>> No.9990984

>>9986827
>Gogol
he wrote in Russian, so you'll have to account him as a Russian author.

>> No.9991076

Sadly, not many Finnish authors have been translated. For example, Volter Kilpi's masterpiece, "Alastalon salissa" (In the Hall of Alatalo), is considered to be the Finnish counterpart to Joyce's Ulysses but it is basically untranslatable because of the complex language and distinct dialect it is written in (it is set in the Turku archipelago with most characters being sea captains). I personally like Kjell Westö, who actually writes in Swedish (he's a Finnish-Swede). Many of his books tell stories of ordinary people living in Helsinki (the capital of Finland) during the recent history of the city. I don't think Westö's books are available in English, either.

Of course, Mika Waltari with his "Egyptian" and other books should be available in most Western countries with translations into English, German and French. Waltari is worth reading. Ilmari Kianto's "The Red Line" should also be available in English, it is about the first parliamentary elections with universal suffrage in Finland (1907) and about the hopes and dreams of the poor people.

In the non-fiction department, and if you are interested in philosophy, I can recommend Georg Henrik von Wright's books. He was a friend and student of Ludwig Wittgenstein and a Cambridge professor inheriting Wittgenstein's chair. His early works mostly concern analytical philosophy and logic, his later works are more social criticism and Spenglerian philosophy of history.

P.S. Seeing that Austria isn't painted red, I strongly suggest you check out Thomas Bernhard and Peter Handke. They're both brilliant Austrian authors and should be available in English.

>> No.9991092

>>9986773

J.M Coetzee is technically an African writer, isn't he? And he's the only author in history to receive 3 Man Booker Awards alongside a Nobel.

Read:

Disgrace
Life and Times of Michael K
Slow Man

for a good entry point. He's phenomenal.

>> No.9991174

>>9986773
>including Australia
Is this bait?

>> No.9991178
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>> No.9991185

>>9988319
stfu pontus

>> No.9991217

>>9991076
Any info you could share about Asko Sahlberg?
There is a translation of one of his books, Herodes, and I've read a somewhat praising review for it.

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>> No.9991303

Czech Republic: Bohumil Hrabal, especially "Too loud a solitude"

>> No.9991313

>>9987311
You're a twat, but I like you.

>> No.9991320

There is a good selection of lit in Romania, but a good majority of it has not been translated.

>> No.9991322

>>9990322
Literally outskilled

>> No.9991422

mein kampf

>> No.9991664

What I'd rec from Finland that are not yet been mentioned:
>Leena Krohn: Tainaron
>Tove Jansson: The Summer Book
>Aki Ollikainen: White Hunger

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>>9991174
Take that back.

>> No.9991720

>>9988890
Um fuck off anon, you know very well Aus and Can have more literary value to the world than Braz, moreso than say India. But in hindsight he should have included Brazil too, maybe OP isn't well versed in Latin Lit?

>> No.9991749

>>9986773
Han Kang - "The Vegetarian"

>> No.9991751

>>9991720
>Australia
>Canada
>Having more literary value than any country

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For Pakistan, anything by Allama Iqbal, Saadat Hassan Manto or Faiz Ahmad Faiz.

For Nigeria, Chinua Achebe. There are a lot of great south American guys too, like Pablo Neruda and Luis Borges. Also, for Portugal, there's The Book of Disquiet by Pessoa. I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.

>> No.9991810

>>9991751
Why don't you use Wikipedia yourself you fucking shitskin since you're under the belief that Third World countries have more influence on Western Literature than First World ones? Nice bait and shitpost subpar even for /lit/

>> No.9991826

>>9987523
>The Tunnel
Good light read. Reminded me a lot of notes from underground

>> No.9991828

>>9991751
This. Canada and Australia could disappear entirely and no one would notice.

>> No.9991831

>>9988826
Its an autistic answer but it's still true.

>> No.9991835

>>9991810
Fucking Salman Rushdie is better and more influential (his early work desu) than any Aus or Cancuck. Maybe (((Saul Bellow))) is a contender. Also, The Mahabharata is of more cultural importance to the entire world than anything to come out of those two combined. LOL

>> No.9991844

>>9991835
Don't even respond to him, its obviously he is a Canadian and or Australian.

>> No.9991848

>>9991810
weak bait 2/10

>> No.9991850

>>9990984
So did this guy >>9990655 is he Russian too. And what about Kafka? Was he not Czech because he wrote in German?

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>>9991720
>Australia
>literary value

>> No.9991934

>>9990984
Guess we have to include all of South America as either Portuguese or Spanish.

>> No.9991946

>>9991882
More literary value than Canada at least

>> No.9991962

>>9986773
The History of the Siege of Lisbon

>> No.9991989

From Switzerland Max Frisch (Homo Faber, Biedermann und die Brandstifter, Stiller, to name a few works), Gottfried Keller, Friedrich Dürrenmatt

>> No.9992040
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>>9986773
The Age of the Fish by Ödön von Horváth

(Why the fuck is the translation not called "Youth without God"? Holy fucking shit.)

>> No.9992048

>>9991882
>its nuttin time
No one even talks like this. It'd be better to say "absolute ripper of a wank" or something

>> No.9992255

>>9992048
>absolute ripper of a wank
And they said Australia had no literary value

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Anyone read Nawal El Saadawi from Egypt?

>> No.9992878

>>9986773
>Mexico
Pedro Páramo, The Burning Plain (Rulfo)
Aura, The death of Artemio Cruz, Where the Air is Clear (Fuentes)
Women with Big Eyes (Mastretta)
El libro salvaje (Villoro)
The Mangy Parrot (Fernández de Lizardi)
Battles in the Deser (Pacheco)
>Colombia
Chronicle of a Death Foretold, Strange Pilgrims, 100 Years of Solitude, Of Love and other demons, Love in the times of Cholera (García Márquez)
The rats rebellion (Soto Aparicio)
Delirium (Restrepo)
The Vortex/La Vorágine (Rivera)
La casa grande (Cepeda Samudio)
Gaspar's Prose (De Greiff)
Oblivion (Abad Faciolince)
Buda Blues, Satanás, La importancia de morir a tiempo (Mendoza)
El buen salvaje (Caballero Calderón)
Liveforever (Caicedo, I hate him, but he's a good writer, i cannot lie)
>Perú
The Black Messengers (Vallejo)
The Time of the Hero, Conversation in the Cathedral, The Feast of the Goat (Vargas Llosa)
Crónica de San Gabriel (Ribeyro)
The House of the Spirits, Paula (Allende)
>Chile
Harvesting, Lagar, Despair (Mistral)
2666, The savage detectives, Nazi Literature in the Americas, By Night in Chile (Bolaño, this guy is great)
Twenty Love Poems and a Song of Despair (Neruda)
>Argentina
The slaughterhouse (Echeverría)
A Universal History of Infamy, Ficciones, El Aleph (Borges)
Historias de cronopios y de famas (Cortázar)
The Tunnel, On Heroes and Tombs (Sábato)
The Invention of Morel (Bioy Casares)

>> No.9993120

The Icelandic sagas!

>> No.9993138

>>9986773
Robert Musil? Why is Austria not red?

>> No.9993287

>>9991826
If you enjoyed it, you might like to read his two other novels. They're way more ambitious and better books in general.

>> No.9993327

>>9986773

This is a troll, nice shitpost /pol/, you knew there wasn't any so you were just trying to trick us into being racist by making us realize that there isn't any. Brown people just have more important things to do than creating art, architecture, culture, or science, like fighting not to starve due to the dead colonialist white men who force them to mismanage their countries from beyond the grave with intangible tendrils of privilege and bigotry.

>> No.9993365

>>9993327
I know this is bait, but just try checking out any author from the hundreds posted in this thread

>> No.9993385

The Devil to Pay in the Badlands

>> No.9994015
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Machado de Assis is really one of the greatest novelists of world literature.

Do I say that because I'm a hue hue br? Well yes, but I honestly don't think he's at all inferior to Balzac, Joyce, Proust, Tolstoy, Stendhal, Goethe, or whatever great masters of fiction from countries with a more prestigious literary tradition. And I do believe that he'd be held as an equal to them, had he written in French or English, instead of in a language which no one really cares about.

>> No.9994054

>>9986773

If some guy decides to forfeit his native citizenship and live on Antarctica outside any nation's territory and writes a book there, would it be considered Antarctic literature?

>> No.9994072

>>9994054
Pretty sure you can't get Antartic citizenship buddy. And literary traditions are delineated more by language than by national borders.

>> No.9994081

2666, Roberto Bolaño, Chile.

>> No.9994085

>>9986773
100 years of solitude
death and the kings horseman
mickey mouse in hell

>> No.9994092

>>9987639
someone else read death and the kings horseman? nice, although it was required reading for me. great tragedy. best post colonial literature for sure

>> No.9994468

>>9986773
If you want to go icelandic then any of Halldór's Laxness book will do.

>> No.9994485

>>9986773

Read Midaq Alley by Naguib Mahfouz (Egypt).

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>>9994015
really, putting assis next to jayce and proust? for me, guimarães rosa is way superior, and if there is one brazilian writer to compare to these 2 guys, its obviously Rosa. given, I dislike realism and romance, after reading the realist trilogy, reading Grande sertão: veredas was a fucking relief, seriously. love me some modernism.

>> No.9994984

Gabriel Zaid's poetry, Juan Rulfo, María Dueñas, Salvador Elizondo, José Emilio Pacheco.

>> No.9994992

>>9994972
Do you think a spanish translation of Veredas could be good enough? I'm going to learn portuguese eventually (now i'm stuck with french and italian), but i keep hearing amazing things about Veredas and Rosa. I've seen him being called the brazilian Joyce more than once

>> No.9995104

>>9994992
>I've seen him being called the brazilian Joyce more than once
yeah, he can compare. he was very intelligent, he was a diplomat and a very important member of the brazilian academy of letters. He also spoke several languages

>"I speak: Portuguese, German, French, English, Spanish, Italian, Esperanto, some Russian; I read: Swedish, Dutch, Latin and Greek (but with the dictionary right next to me); I understand some German dialects; I studied the grammar of: Hungarian, Arabic, Sanskrit, Lithuanian, Polish, Tupi, Hebrew, Japanese, Czech, Finnish, Danish; I dabbled in others. But all at a very basic level. And I think that studying the spirit and the mechanism of other languages helps greatly to more deeply understand the national language [of Brazil]. In general, however, I studied for pleasure, desire, distraction".

Veredas was also considered one of the 100 best books of all times in a 2002 poll.

>Do you think a spanish translation of Veredas could be good enough?
I believe so. There are quite a bit of colloquial portuguese language and neologisms, specially from the 'backlands' of brazil (the sertão, far north of brazil), but yea, I think a spanish translation would be good enough, given how similar it is to portuguese, and I think if you pretend to read it in portuguese in the future, reading it translated would very likely help. And about the colloquialism and neologism, even being brazilian myself, is out of my "culture", living in the south, never had contact with it besides other authors (like Euclides da Cunha's Os Sertões which goes extensively on the culture of the backlands [by the way, quite a few brazilian writers clearly had hardons for the backlands]), so you shouldn't worry much about it.
Anyway, its one of my very favorite books, very, very worth it, and I strongly believe he would have much more credit if it was written in a more "popular" language.

>(now i'm stuck with french and italian)
nice, I am on italian myself. Any specific books you plan on reading in italian? for me the divine comedy and orlando furioso by ludovico ariosto.

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>>9994972
Rosa is obviously more comparable to Joyce and Proust, because he's a modernist par excellence. And he is also incredible, certainly one of the great modernists. But I believe the depth of Machado's achievement make him a titan, something I can only call him and those ones I mentioned, plus Kafka and maybe others I'm yet to read (that's as far as fiction goes, I would make a separate list for poets, which would include João Cabral de Melo Neto and Pessoa). Although Rosa, for me, isn't quite on that level, he's among the best latin-american authors and probably the best prose stylist in Portuguese along with Machado.

>>9988814
>Padre Antônio Vieira
>Portugal

He may have been born in Portugal, but his literature belongs to the Brazilian canon.

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>>9995113
what have you read by machado? as I said, I only read the realist trilogy, posthumous memoirs was my favorite by far. also read o alienista when I was a kid, probably the first /lit book I read.

have a volume of his plays on my shelf too. do you have any recs of his other novels, maybe some less realist?

what is your favorite work by him?

>> No.9995208

ficciones
seriously how could you rule out latin america

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>>9986773
>Bridge on the Drina River- Ivo Andric (Yugoslav)
>My Name is Red- Orhan Pamuk (Turkey)

>> No.9997519

Not OP, but thanks to those who've contributed. I'm looking forward to reading outside of my comfort zone.