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What are some good lit forums that aren't swamped with

>muh right wing philosophy
>muh confederate literature
>muh white identity

Inb4 >>>Reddit

>> No.9897808

If we knew we wouldn't be here, retard.

>> No.9897815

sounds like someone needs a safespace because he's fucking triggered af

>> No.9897836

>>9897792
8ch /leftypol/ was a direct exodus of functional human beings from /lit/

>> No.9897837
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>>9897792
Well, sorry, but reddit is where you belong. Where do you think you are, chief?

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>help, help! the culture I identify with is being displaced by stupid and violent newcomers!
>>>/pol/

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>>9897836
>leftypol
>functional human beings
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.9897871

>>9897845
>implying bob marley the orthodox christian singer of religious songs wasn't a right winger
he wouldn't even allow his wife to wear make up and dress immodestly. he was anti-fags, anti-degeneracy, anti-drugs except for the herb and would have been very much opposed to all kinds of trans and commie bullshit

take the weedpill

>> No.9897963

4chan pre-2015

>> No.9897986

>>9897871
I don't think you can begin to understand how socially conservative real communists are/were.

>> No.9897991

>>9897963
>it was cool when I first came here
no it was always shit newfag

>> No.9897997

>>9897991
I've been here since 2007 m8.

>> No.9897998

>>9897792
Define "swamped". /lit/ hardly seems swamped with it, unless you're pathologically sensitive to this sort of thing.

>> No.9898004

>>9897792
if you've seen a lot of those threads, you're a troll feeder who thinks the troll is the problem. please never get pets

>> No.9898019

>>9897986
>deny divine rule of kings
>deny aristocracy
>deny property
>atheist
>egalitarian

wew lad real conservative

>> No.9898020

>>9897792
Sorry but right-wing politics isn't going anywhere. If you really want a lefty safe space where someone occasionally makes a good post then >>9897836.

>> No.9898021

I really, really don't understand why certain anons have become so enamoured with racist right-wing politics and white supremacy.

I understand why Trump was voted in, I sorta understand why Trump is the lesser of two evils. I understand why regular working-class people have certain prejudices against certain people. I have a handle on that.

But I don't understand the rage and bile that comes from /pol/tards. Like anons are (actual) nerds, geeks, dorks etc, i.e. underdogs, so why so much hate and lining with people who would shit on them if the dream of a white nation came into being? Unless post-2014 anons are Chads.

>> No.9898023

>>9897808
/thread

>> No.9898030

>>9897997
no you haven't

>> No.9898035

>>9897836
Fuck 8chn. Bunch of literal homosexual white supremacists who hate women.

>> No.9898063

>>9898021
The vision of the world your side promises is so wretched that they'd easily rather live in white Chad's world. It's not even a contest.

>> No.9898078

>>9898020
>>9897836
>start a thread complaining about 4chan and racists
>shill your shitty board of neet degenerates who only gather to raid /lit/ because they are scared of pol
>your board is so slow it has 8 month old threads on it because everyone knows it's shit
like clockwork

>> No.9898081

>>9898063
What "side" you gaylord?

>> No.9898082

>>9898019
That's not conservative, it's just plain classcucked Feudalism.

You people are the white equivalent of "we wuz kangs n sheeit"
I bet you're a britbongoloid too

>> No.9898093

>>9898078
He asked a question and I answered. If you had a different answer, you could have posted that. You didn't, because you're a sissy faggot with no actual intellectual credibility.

>> No.9898095

>>9898035
How is that any different than here.

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>>9898093
stay mad pinko
>mfw communism will never ever happen and you jerk off to woulda coulda shoulda beens of a dead ideology

>> No.9898111

>>9898093
first you reply with propaganda junk and then you conclude it with a nice little ad hominem. ahh yes i am sure /leftypol/ is full of the so-called "functional human beings" such as yourself

>> No.9898112
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>>9898082
>monarchism isn't conservative but communism is

>> No.9898123

>>9898081
You've diametrically cast yourself against everything the right stands for. What do YOU think your side is?

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>>9898108
>lol y u mad tho

Thrillingly engaging. Watson, hold my pipe so I can really focus on this Moriarty of a man, not just my match, but my obvious better

>> No.9898147

>>9898137
dont forget to read my reply stupid >>9898111

>> No.9898159

>>9898112
Here's a different way to look at it: do you think Marx, Lenin, Stalin or Mao, or Tito, any of those titans of the east, you think any of them thought good things about Trannies and fags and all that? Do you think they were anti-marriage, or anti-monogamy?
Do you think they were for affirmative action and welfare?
Well, it seems you do.

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>>9898137
I would love to take your for a helicopter ride someday soon friendo

>> No.9898163

>>9898159
>titans of the east

You have to go back.

>> No.9898165

>>9897792
worldliteratureforum

>> No.9898171

>>9898095
No anon here holds the belief of white supremacy, putting women in their place and being a literal faggot on the same board.

>> No.9898178

>>9898021

white nationalism and other right-wing ideologies =/= white supremacy

back you go

>> No.9898180

>>9898159
Of course they didn't, but merely hating fags doesn't make you a conservative.

They were all revolutionary leftists drunk on revolution and the enlightenment and modernism.

>> No.9898190

>>9898123
I don't stand for identity politics if that's what you're trying to say faggot.

>>9898178
Oh lord 4chan is truly dead and nerds actually think they have a part in their imagined utopia.

>> No.9898197

>>9898021
>Like anons are (actual) nerds, geeks, dorks etc, i.e. underdogs, so why so much hate and lining with people who would shit on them if the dream of a white nation came into being?

do you honestly think the average nigger wouldn't treat the average 4chan user even worse than chad?

>> No.9898209

>>9898190
You also don't respect your opponents beliefs and talking points enough to not refer to them as "prejudice", so why even engage with them at all?

>> No.9898214

>/lit/ irl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYY8-mDNwMs

>> No.9898222

>>9898021
Whites in America have gone from 90% of the population to a projected minority by 2040, and have you seen how what these brown/black people feel about us? If you don't understand what's going on, that's on you. Those of us with some sense and long-term perspective are the ones out here trying to warn the fluff-brained deracinated whites still unwise to the situation.

>> No.9898231

>right and left /pol/ assume they're welcome here
>americans assume they're welcome here
>the internet will not communicate the discerning crisp readjustment of my broadsheet which indicates my barely restrained disdain for their upbringing, mothers, and souls
can't we range ban these boring monolingual fucks? australia shitposts less than the US/UK on this board. all they do is make /soc/ threads and /tv/ and /news/ threads. fucking harry potter posters would be better.

>> No.9898260

>>9898231
Why did you write that in english? Considerate of you, really.

>> No.9898264

>>9898222
>have you seen how what these brown/black people feel about us
you're no a victim

>> No.9898266

>>9898231
t. australia

stay made kangaroo kuck

>> No.9898277

>>9898264
Neither were the folks who fled burning Chicago and Detroit in the 60s, amirite?

>> No.9898280

>>9898264
Whites are the only ones don't play the victim game, Paco, I'm just trying to get these people out of the country my ancestors built.

>> No.9898285

>>9897792
Are you searching for an echo chamber?

>> No.9898485

>>9898197
No.

>>9898209
You're an idiot who doesn't want to talk.

>> No.9898494

>>9898021
literally immigrants from reddit and stormfront

>> No.9898499

You run into the Eternal September problem where any large forum will eventually turn to shit.

The only worthwhile places are very small and very niche, which makes it hard to find and recommend them.

>> No.9898502

>>9898494
>stormfront

I vaguely remember 4chan having an issue with stormfront back in the early days.

>> No.9898510

>>9898502
no you dont. you probably read something about it on ED or reddit

>> No.9898515

>>9898502
Back with /n/ and /new/ yeah. When moot left any hope of regulating that was lost, and the 2016 election cycle spun it into hell.

>>9898499
True but for a long time even when getting bigger 4chan's niche interest boards remained good. Although it's much newer than most /lit/ is actually one of those, and even threads like this usually have actual discussion over memes.

>> No.9898523

>>9898030
>>9898510
Is this le famed "controlling the narrative"?

>> No.9898528

>>9898523
no it's le famed "calling bullshit what it is"

>> No.9898531

>>9898515
>stormfront is what caused millions and millions of Americans to support white identity politics
Stormfront is a symptom of multiculturalism's failure, not its cause

>> No.9898543

>>9898528
Why do you think either of those statements are bullshit?

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>>9898165
Thank you anon. Why are you still here?

>> No.9898550

>>9898531
That's 1) not what I said and 2) citation fucking needed. Am I to assume that citation will be "the userbase of /pol/ is in the millions"?

It's true that both /n/ and /new/ and subsequently /pol/ suffered from mass immigration from stormfront. That's the statement you should be arguing against if you dispute it - not the one you've invented.

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>>9898531

>> No.9898556

>>9898021
It's a kind of irony, the thinking is 'well why is it not legitimate' aka 'prove me wrong' thinking which is the real downfall of civilization -- it even features in their critiques (everyone is an ideologue except for me)

>> No.9898566

>>9898554
t. leftypol recruiter still hanging around the thread after getting BTFO

your evil capitalist boogeyman is just as fictional as the secret jew boogeyman

>> No.9898569

>>9898566
If you're going to post like a /pol/ nigger and reference your meme conspiracies, please keep it to /pol/.

>> No.9898572

>>9898021
I was an edgelord alt right trump shitposter last year. something about sjw/leftist culture just provoked a visceral reaction in me, even though i'm a half spic mongrel. now i just feel depressed hopeless and sick to my guts about everything. The world i grew up in is gone and it seems like there is a long dark road ahead of us. nothing even remotely resembling a future. If i could just live in an universe frozen forever somewhere during the 00s , become a writer of some sort... I must sound awfully melodramatic.

>> No.9898575

>>9898554
This is a pretty retarded image that could only appeal to a 19 year-old who has done zero critical thinking about why Neo-Nazis even exist. Neo-Nazis are not only more collectivist than most self-identified socialists, they are also far more likely to express antipathy toward capitalist institutions than Jacobin-reading Chapo-listening 110 IQ fuckwits

>> No.9898580

>>9897836

It's okay. Some threads are disgustingly liberal though, and I mean that in the actual sense of the word and not the American sense.

I do enjoy some discussion on there, though.

>> No.9898582

>>9898572
You sound like an illiterate NEET 2bh

>> No.9898586

>>9898572
>I was an edgelord alt right trump shitposter last year. something about sjw/leftist culture just provoked a visceral reaction in me, even though i'm a half spic mongrel.
>now i just feel depressed hopeless and sick to my guts about everything.
lol

>> No.9898587

>>9898550
He's absolutely right, it's a symptom, and you seem pretty clueless in general. Stormfront? The reason you may be behind on the times and not understanding much is because you're stuck in 2011, bud.

>> No.9898595

>>9897815
Or bored.

Not him.

Just bored.

Not even with the subject. Just with the level of analysis that accompanies certain types of threads, you know who you are. Well, actually, no you probably don't do much self reflection, more so self negation.

Now I know most of (you) have stopped reading, but that's also your problem too. If I see another fucking post complaining about the length of another post inside a fucking thread you probably started, I'm going lose my shit and purposely spend six months copying your writing style just to use it to say all the things you don't want, like, I'm concerned for you anon, I love you, and I'm hoping you're alright little buddy, hang in there kid, you're going to be alright, I believe in you.

And,

do you all think in tiny sentences because you're used to being talked over and regularly dominated in conversations? Can you only offer stunted quips? Are you dickless in spirit as well as body? Where is the love anon?

Most of you write posts with the weight of a feather pillow swung by a feeble ten year old girl - which, if the posts weren't so callous and irreverent, I could picture you as ... probably even more so than you do.

Did you read the part about how much I love you?

>> No.9898599

>>9898595
tldr?

>> No.9898601

>>9898595
Pretty sure you could've fit all that into one paragraph instead of 18 lines.

>> No.9898604

>>9898586
to be fair I was depressed back then too.

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>>9898566
>>9898575

uh huh

>> No.9898609

>>9898587
That again isn't actually a response to anything in my posts.

>> No.9898617

>>9898515
>Back with /n/ and /new/ yeah.
What exactly was it?

>> No.9898624

>>9898599
Exactly. Top-tier.

>> No.9898627

>>9898606
so called socialists care more about 'white supremacy' than about capitalism. sad! they will side with bankers and corporations over american workers all the fucking time. they will openly feel schnadenfreude when white american workers die from drug overdoses, after all they are privileged racists who couldn't adapt to the diverse globalised high tech economy ha ha. The great majority of white american workers see you as the enemy.

>> No.9898628

>>9898601
I

Like

To

Own

Land

But

I

Don't

Have

Any

Money

For

His

Books.

>> No.9898631

>>9897792
Uh, /lit/?

>> No.9898636

Sage

>> No.9898639

>>9897862
That woman frontleft looks like she wants to be anywhere else.

>> No.9898646

>>9898627
This is how you know the modern day, self-declared communist/anti-capitalist/anti-racist is the biggest stooge on the planet. They are literally the useful idiot of the globalist system. It's hilarious.

>> No.9898647

Who are these newfags who don't think Stormfront invaded during the election?
/pol/ around 2012 was libertarian and loved Ron Paul. The only constant in /pol/ is jew hating.

>> No.9898651

>>9898609
My apologies. I wanted to agree with what he said and was clearly under the impression that the greentext was yours, but I just saw that it was not.

>> No.9898658

>>9898647
Dude, everyone knows about the jewish issue these days. I mean, I've never even posted on pol or been to stormfront and I know all about it. Not sure you have the stormfront part right though. Stormfront is literally an FBI honeypot.

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>>9898627
willful ignorance is p cool t b q h f a m

>> No.9898662

>>9898627
>so called socialists

Yeah they're not socialists.

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>>9897792
It's 2017, there's is no facet of life that isn't inundated with politics and posturing anymore. Your best bet is to learn to dismiss and ignore it.

>> No.9898665

>>9898658
>Stormfront is literally an FBI honeypot.
Not him but since when?

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>>9898664

>> No.9898669

>>9898171
>>>/fit/ would beg to differ.

>> No.9898671

>>9898502
I've been here since 2006. There was always racist and Nazi shit all over this site, but it wasn't coming from a political perspective, it was because people thought it was funny. It didn't become politicized for years. /pol/ and earlier /new/ were always full of Nazi shit and didn't have a problem with Stormfront until people from Stormfront started spamming shit here constantly to try and politically mobilize people.

>> No.9898673

>>9898660
seriously al those so call leftists seem more interested in indoctrinating our kids with white guilt and queer theory than about ending capitalism. it's all about the PoCs the WoCs the safe spaces and the lgbtsjwbbqpedophile crowd. white people are always spoken with disdain. believe me im a white worker, coal miner's son, im not a hook nosed kike from brooklyn

>> No.9898675

>>9898658
Barely anyone outside of /pol/ talked about it back then though.
And yeah, stormfront is highly compromised, which is why they made an active and concerted effort at moving to an anonymous image board instead.
I distinctly remember /pol/ in the old days disliking stormfront. They would say "stormfront detected" and all that.

>> No.9898677

>>9898665
I've been hearing that for the last 2-3 years or so. I obviously can't confirm it is but that's just one of those things people seem to say quite frequently.

>> No.9898680

>>9898675
>I distinctly remember /pol/ in the old days disliking stormfront. They would say "stormfront detected" and all that.
And yet the board was more overtly Nazi-sympathetic than it is now.

>> No.9898684

>>9898673
this, im a steelworker from alabama, and i believe the alt right is the only hope for workers and our people.

>> No.9898687

>>9898673
>so call leftists
Emphasis on the "so called" part dude.

>>9898675
I'm guessing the stormfront invasion is 90% successful.

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>>9898673
That shit is Identitarianism, and it's capitalist.
Liberals are not leftists. They are capitalists.
Capitalism with welfare is not the same as an actual socialist system.

>> No.9898691

>>9898684
>im a steelworker from alabama

Lol fuck off. You're a cashier at my local Co-op.

>> No.9898695

>>9898689
>That shit is Identitarianism, and it's capitalist.
No it isn't.

>> No.9898696

>>9898689
Finally someone gets it.

>> No.9898697

>>9898680
Yes that's true. They always loved Hitler and hated Jews. But they still didn't like stormfront and hailed people like Ron Paul (who they would just call a cuck now).

>> No.9898701

>>9898671
>There was always racist and Nazi shit all over this site, but it wasn't coming from a political perspective, it was because people thought it was funny.
This. I mean some people were probably sincere but now those retards outnumber everyone else. Poe's Law is real.

>> No.9898706

>>9898684
Then you're retarded.

>> No.9898713

>>9898691
> further proof leftists actually hate the working class
im a white worker i've worked at the plant all my life, i like to have a cold one at the tavern with the boys, i pay taxes, unlike the criminal blacks leftists want to let loose on the streets

>> No.9898719

>>9898701
Do you have a legitimate excuse for not understanding the issue? People aren't just making this stuff up. Are you jewish?

>> No.9898722

>>9898675
Now that I think about it, it was probably Project Chanology's fault.

>> No.9898723
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>>9898695
It's called lifestyle commodification.
Why get people convinced that they aren't what they ought to be? That they are really some other thing?
Because cutting your cock off is a SURGERY, and SURGERY costs lots and lots of MONEY.
And even if they don't get THAT out of you, they can sell you LGBT pins and shirts and media centered on the lifestyle, and it's the same with the white workers so-called-- Duck Dynasty is white trash theatre for fuck's sake, or was when it was relevant.
Trucknutz don't sell themselves, and you gotta go to the gay bar to buy gay drinks and get a gay lover to get gay married to, and all the money involved in the wedding industry.
And you go to college so you can learn about how to properly be gay, and you can go to a christian college to learn how to be that commodified lifestyle. You can buy Christian Rock albums and send your kids to Christian Events and so on and so forth.

It's all about ME, and if it's all about ME, there will never be an US to stand up to Capital.

>> No.9898733

>>9898689
>>9898660
>maybe if I spam leftypol propoganda people will forget that communism doesn't work

>> No.9898740

>>9898713
The working class are MY people. I don't like how the conservative are fucking them in the ass. The working class are the life blood of the left.

>> No.9898741

>>9897837
those woman are ugly tho

>> No.9898743

>>9898733
Communism doesn't work. But that doesn't mean we can't put certain policies into place to protect the poor.

>> No.9898752

>>9898722
And that ties into the point in >>9898723
I am making--
All this distracts from alienation, which is caused by the oligarchic inequality of Private Ownership, wealth inequality.
And how do we handle that?
A CULT, like Scientology, and it's sanctioned, and it's legal, and it's legally empowered to medicate you and lock you away if you don't play ball.
It's Psychology/iatry.
Priest=Auditor=Therapist
Ritual=Techs=Therapy/Medicine
Demons=Thetans=Issues
Heretic=SP=Toxic Person

And so on.

And therapy costs MONEY, and that keeps you medicated and mindfucked and going to work or getting welfare like a good boy.
And if you still won't play ball, they lock you up and dope you by force.

>> No.9898760

>>9898740
>The working class are the life blood of the left.
Nope, they've replaced you with brown people.

>> No.9898767

>>9898760
No they haven't. Those are neoliberal fucks.

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>>9898733
>>9898743
Capitalism doesn't work either.
I'm not talking about instituting Stalinism or some other authoritarian bullshit, I mean Libertarian-Socialism.

>> No.9898776

>>9898740
it is the blacks and the homosexuals that are fucking us in the ass, my working class white brother. the left wants to replace us with third worlders. they want us dead. to them, a black billionaire like obama is more oppressed than all the poor whites.

>> No.9898780

>>9898772
'libertarian socialism' is just stalinism+ dildos and blue haired transpocwoc commissars

>> No.9898781

>>9898776
Capital wants to replace us with machines, with drones, and to kill us off with some GMO disease they THINK they can control.
But I want to fuck Joan from Mad Men, and that's not going to happen either.

>> No.9898783

>>9897792
Well, about 90% of the posters on /lit/ seem to be Marxist commies, so...

>> No.9898789

>>9898740
>The working class are the life blood of the left.

So that's why Hillary largely ignored the midwest, which is a hotbed of working class voters?

>> No.9898791

>>9898767
Yes, they have, dude. It's time to wake up now, we're in a new century and this isn't your parents generation or their scam-crafted lefty politics anymore.

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>>9898780
You have a real hard time understanding that liberals and socialists are not the same thing.
I feel bad for you, the bait would be more challenging if you actually cracked a fucking book now and then.
Read The Philosophy of Social Ecology, or even just the wikiquotes page on Murray Bookchin, and git gud, faggot.

>> No.9898794

>>9898789
Cos Hillary is a neoliberal whore of wall street.

>> No.9898808

I wonder how many of these communist autodidacts have ever read an econ textbook?

or did they just watch a couple youtube videos? what seems more likely?

>> No.9898820

>>9898781
She has a BIG ass

>> No.9898824

I need to go bed. Please keep this thread alive.

>> No.9898830

>>9898808
Yeah, and those Texas Schoolbooks that have Jesus riding a dinosaur, those are legit as well.
>appeal to authority
>authority in question is Austrian Economics taught in Privately Owned (by Capitalist Oligarchs) Colleges

anon pls

>> No.9898832

>>9898222
This man gets it. Why would I be happy that whites will be a minority in the future, considering how minorities have historically been treated in most countries? It's not even about me, it's my children, grand children or grand grand children that might face the greatest dangers. Why risk it?

>> No.9898834

>>9897837
>can't fuck 16 year olds in most American states
fuck this gay country

>> No.9898838

>>9898832
Because someone might call you a racist or something.

>> No.9898840

>>9897862
I want to save second from the left. She looks like a QT latina who didn't know what she was getting herself into

>> No.9898841

>>9898572
You sound like a fagwad and a melodramatic woman who blogs about how she totally wants to commit suicide but never actually attempts it.

>> No.9898842

>>9898830
but anon, at least capitalists dont want to impose sharia law and turn our children into trannies. Hans Herman Hoppe is pretty redpilled fashygoy when he talks about phisically removing democrats and communists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TncilnIdiLk

>> No.9898876

>>9898838
I think one of the major reasons most whites cannot imagine the catastrophic (and not impossible in my opinion) scenario of their white descendants being strongly discriminated against or worst (i.e. ethnic cleansed) in the future is due to their belief that whites will always stay on top. I do not have this false belief of superiority, I can easily see, when we are weaker and less numerous, how resentful ethnic people could take over. Another reason is their naivety, they do not think that it is possible that ethnic people would do something like that, even though human history is full of conquests, forced displacements, ethnic cleansing, mass rapes, slaves raids, etc.

>> No.9898936

>>9898876
Yes. And we have to remember that ideology is at the center of this. We lost control long ago and let ourselves get blinded by this jewish equality narrative where we aren't allowed to think that other people are different than us, that it's our fault if they they under achieve, commit crime, etc., that our own history is evil, and that we are immoral if we question any of this. It's very simple though. We didn't make ourselves believe this nonsense and collapse into a state of self-loathing, we've been conditioned to think this way. By both jewish Christianity and the post-Christian religion of liberalism. These alien people have hacked into our moral mainframe and taken over to the point where they can control most people by labeling them a racist, this fake fucking word. The future looks bright though, whites are waking up, but have lost complete institutional control. The next step is figuring out how to physically remove these sick kikes from power and then from every nation in the west to make sure this never happens again, and then create a new narrative that burns into every white child's brain the destruction that will come upon them if these people are ever allowed back in the gates again. Final solution doesn't seem extreme at all to those of us who understand the depth of the problem.

>> No.9898947

>>9898760
>thinking that the oligarchy cares about skin color

The people who are running things are simply selecting cheaper cogs for their profit machine. Just so happens that the cheaper cogs are working remotely from India. The only way to fight back is to stop participating in consumer culture.

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9898958

>>9898947
the left and the oligarchy literally want to guilt white people out of existence. they agree in what matters that is, chasing down every last white person. I've never heard leftists talk about workers with anything other than content. workers are too white and not trans enough.

>> No.9898965

>>9898947
Other poster is right, get up to speed on the JQ.

>> No.9898974

>>9898832
It won't matter, because by the time your children will be your age all of humanity will be enslaved and rendered completely harmless to one another by the oligarchs who are currently running the show. People are being primed to be worker/consumers. The only way to resist this future is by consuming as little as possible of corporate-produced goods.

>> No.9898983

>>9898841
Eat a bullet

>> No.9898984

>>9898792
That's pretty good, how have I never heard of this Bookchin fellow before. It's applicable but a little bit dated, it seems to fail to mention the conversion of truth itself into a commodified non-entity. Today things are effectively true purely because people believe them, and that's deeply disturbing. We live in the logical consequence of the ends justify the means, where the two are so intertwined together and anything is permissible and both nature and logic are powerless to object.

>> No.9898985

>>9898974
i' take the oligarchy over a white oligarch to a polyamorous transwocpoc commisar with blue hair shrieking white male!!! in my face for all eternity thanks. and im working class.

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>>9898572
>I must sound awfully melodramatic.
You sound like a failed normie, volunteering their thoughts and experience as if it's interesting or relevant when it couldn't be more explicable, ideas so obvious and typical it's laughable to think anyone feels the need to further contribute to their 'outing'. Even your reaction to your 'experience' is half a commercial away from endorsing all-bran cereal for young adults.

>> No.9899007

>>9898936
The only way to create a better situation for yourself is by making yourself better than others in some regard. Even if whites are/will continue to dominate, do you really think you will be handed a comfy existence on a silver platter? Fucking get a grip and do something constructive for yourself or kill yourself. Clean up your room you miserable faggot.

>> No.9899019

>>9899007
But it's the government's duty to get rid of all those fucking communists and fix my life, I'll just petition them with constant posturing.

Wait a minute...

>> No.9899020

>>9898830
you're right anon, it's the whole worlds fault you're a loser who works at walmart and lives in your moms basement

>> No.9899022

>>9898984
There are interviews and such of Bookchin all over YT.
Here's a short one making clear that left libertarianism and IDPOL aka pinkhair screeching trannies, have no business with each other.

https://youtu.be/C1rvIRtb1AM

>> No.9899030

>>9898078
>/lefftypol/ raids /lit/
yeah it's not that this board is about books and has a lower level of poltards, it must be a "raid" because there's only one board you may visit

>> No.9899032

>>9897815
No dude im just tired of /you/
Doing
/THIS/

Fucks sake. I don't want the board to be swamped with leftism and black identity politics either. I don't want identity politics of any sort being so foregrounded in the boards culture
Because
Its fucking boring
And not anything i give a shit about at all

And moreover, i wanna be able to express that distaste without having /pol/llack brand buzzwords like "beta cuck" slewn in my direction for not caring about your boring sociopolitical bullshit at all times on a fucking literature board.

>> No.9899036

>>9899030
4chan has always been the hate machine of the internets, it's about opposing the establishment, not being a politically correct leftoid cuck who wants mass immigration and mass transgenderisation of white children

>> No.9899039

>>9897836
Leftypol is shit and absolutely not a literature board

>> No.9899053

>>9899036
>4chan has always been the hate machine of the internets, it's about opposing the establishment
It used to be about being funny and (non-politically) contrarian. The politicization of everything is recent.

>> No.9899057

>>9899036
>it's about opposing the establishment
ah yes, their transgressive support for big business
the truth is that the only opposition to establishment edgelords on pol are willing to commit to is the one thing that's half-decent: public anti-racism (not private of course, the establishment will regularly vote to fuck minorities)
because all the rest of it they like

>> No.9899065

>>9898719
I just
Don't
Care

>> No.9899066

>>9899057
i didn't get any victimhood scholarships for being white/straight, though

>> No.9899071

>>9899057
the cultural marxist agenda is supported by huge corporations like google and

>> No.9899077

>>9899053
But the politicization was a direct response to the left's ramping the narrative up during the second term of the Obama administration. That's really how these things work, it doesn't just happen on what side.

>> No.9899081

>>9899053
>The politicization of everything is recent.
it was leftist sjws that were responsible, the right is just reaction against the destruction of western culture and the cult of the shrieking, ths snivelling, the pathetic wheelchair bound pink haired trangendered victim. the leftist hates all that is strong and wholesome. the leftist worships weakness, disease and perversion

>> No.9899092

>>9899081

Ah.

>> No.9899093

>>9899077
>>9899081
None of your "reasons" or blame placing will change what you faggots took away from me.

>> No.9899100

>>9899093
woah sorry for oppressing you noble, snivelling pink hair victim. sorry for being white..

>> No.9899101

>>9897836
I got banned from there for being imperialist. I'm an anarchist.

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9899103

>>9899032
to be fair, I am trying to talk about good non-rightwing books.

>> No.9899106

>>9899081
>right is just reaction

well, you got that right

>> No.9899107

>>9899066

Start your own fellowship for disadvantaged white youth, if you really care so much about that 'injustice'.

>> No.9899111

>>9899065
And why would you when you're about to take your third journey into magical Harry Potter land? Fucking neets.

>> No.9899112

>>9899039
Yeah? Then how come there's tons of good books posted there all the god damn time, including a stickied suggested reading list full of pdfs?
Just because poltards raid it constantly due to deep briny butt pain, doesn't make it not a place to talk about literature.

>> No.9899116

>>9899107
the leftists would shut it down. so much for the working class. they don't give a fuck about the working class unless they are muslims or pink haired shriekers.

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9899126

>>9899101
I got banned for saying that bitcoin and tor are honeypots.
Bans aren't always permanent.

>> No.9899130

>>9899116

No one can shut it down. You are allowed to raise and distribute money entirely as you see fit as long as you did so within the limits of the law. It is not illegal to give scholarships to poor white kids.

>> No.9899134

>>9897998
Dude
Look at this thread
Notice the overwhelming opinion
Notice the vitriol OP received for the question

Its damn near swamped.

>> No.9899138

>>9899130
its about to be illegal. seriously i walk by the leftists in college everyday, i dont even see them as people but as a shrieking mass of aids and victimhood

>> No.9899139

>>9899116
It's impressive how you can create such grandiose and flimsy strawmen to invest your whole identity into. You seemed cucked by your own fears.

>> No.9899142

>>9899126

Recommend an uncompromised onion router?

>> No.9899144

>>9899134
woah white people are standing up for themselves! stop! stop! im literally cryin!

>> No.9899147
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9899147

>>9899116
You keep saying "leftists" when you mean "bourgeois democrat neoliberals" which, really, "neoliberals" or "liberals" or "democrats" would be fine.

We aren't them. We HATE them.

>> No.9899149

>>9899126
Mine was only a week but I figured the board was getting too reactionary anyways.

>> No.9899151

>>9899139
don't leftists do the same with 'muh white men'? besides you have power over all the media and major corporations.

>> No.9899161

>>9899142
i2p or something similar, MAYBE.
Honestly no system is going to work until the internet itself is reconstituted, reimplemented.
IPFS over microwave, basically, if we can get internet to work on a meshnet instead of on centralized government/business controlled infrastructure.

Best you can really do is use a live-cd on a laptop using a series of random public wifi hotspots.
And STILL, it's like the invisible man in your kitchen: once you know he is in there, you throw flower around and watch for footprints.

>> No.9899167

>>9899147
you're the faggot children of neoliberals and you will all grow up to become neoliberals though

>> No.9899173

>>9899149
It goes in ebbs and flows.
I got all kinds of shit for things like knowing damn good and well Russia is a capitalist country that is totally capable of trying to destabilize the west, and we have a ton of real proof out there that Tillerson and the rest of Trump's cabinet are long time Putin business partners.
They loved banning me for saying that.
I have a pet theory that the right wing site owners force those kinds of bans on the mods.

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>>9899147
anyone read this shit yet? i'm waiting to pirate the audiobook

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9899177

>>9899167
Maybe YOU will, queermo
Don't tell me what the fuck I can be or do

>> No.9899180

There's something funny about how tankies have been scrambling to rebrand themselves since the alt-right happened. You rarely, if ever, heard such talk circa 2011.

>> No.9899185

>>9899173
Are you an Israeli shill or really this retarded? You aren't white are you?

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9899190

>>9899175
I haven't yet. Looks good by the title though.
Currently reading Peter Heather's
"The Fall of the Roman Empire"
Zizek's "First as tragedy, then as farce"
and
Bookchin's "Our Synthetic Environment" atm.

>> No.9899192

>>9899173
I have an easier theory. They immersed themselves deeply in right wing propaganda and then fell victim to it because everyone who even tries left.

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9899195

read this if you didn't, even tho michaels is a literary theorist who often writes books with words like "signifier" in the title, this is very readable and blows shitty bourgeois diversity politics out

>> No.9899201

>>9898021
>I sorta understand why Trump is the lesser of two evils
he's not though
if you took the time to actually compare Clinton to other liberals you'd see a lot of it is lip service or meeting them halfway, not actually being overly liberal
also you'd have to be suicidal to start a war with Russia (but apparently provoking China at every turn is alright? great logic)
Trump is proof if there ever was any that the president can't unilaterally ruin the country/world, so Hillary could not have done any worse
>muh rights
we got a republican fucking house of representatives
there's also the supreme court in the way, even the most liberal and "legislating" judges are very wary of taking away rights
your rights are never going anywhere and anyone that says otherwise is trying to scare you into voting for them
this has been the case ever since World War II ended, and the biggest threat since then came from the republicans in the form of the Patriot Act and other domestic spying laws

sorry, I got a bit carried away

>I really, really don't understand why certain anons have become so enamoured with racist right-wing politics and white supremacy.
/pol/ has always been like that, and /new/ before it was almost always like that, part of it is just being edgy to troll, part of it is being legitimately edgy and bringing in other edgy people, part of it is being outcasts and relying on anonymity for safety, part of it is the echo chamber effect
if you want to see a demonstration of these, especially the last one, you should look at 8/pol/
>I understand why regular working-class people have certain prejudices against certain people. I have a handle on that.
good
>But I don't understand the rage and bile that comes from /pol/tards. Like anons are (actual) nerds, geeks, dorks etc, i.e. underdogs, so why so much hate and lining with people who would shit on them if the dream of a white nation came into being? Unless post-2014 anons are Chads.
because they believe they *are* the Chads, the superiors, the ones who would be welcomed
they think if you participate in the Day of the Rope that no one will turn on you, despite that being a deeply revolutionary and destabilizing action
they believe that they're smart enough, strong enough, and prepared enough to weather any storm
some of them probably believe that even if they are purged they'll be OK with it because they did the right thing
most of /pol/ is not on board with this, they're shitposting or they're more moderate, but the more extreme ones, who often don't even go to /pol/ itself very much, are pretty fucked up, and it's hard to understand them

>> No.9899204

Use the filter dumbass

You guys seriously waste your time on this shit.
It's pointless, it's all pointless.

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>>9899185
I'm a working class Dutch-Irish white man, 34, and I live in flyover country where they keep the fucking corn. Well, actually, right out my window is Sorghum but you know.

>> No.9899211

>>9898021
Because white people are necessarily obligated to feel bad for racism in the past and unless you aren't screeching your hatred for your own race every waking second then you are CIS white scum who needs to check his privilege ASAP.

>> No.9899217

>>9899192
Rightest propaganda is literally dudes talking on the internet; leftist propaganda has a multi-billion dollar infrastructure and comes by default on your brain like windows. Which one do you think is more powerful and more difficult to break into/out of? Seriously, you are the pawn here.

>> No.9899218

>>9899211
I've never been called out for racism. I think it's because I don't say racist things in public.

>> No.9899220

>tfw fascist but not 'right-wing'
I just think that power is art. Why do libruls hate me so?

>> No.9899223

>>9899173
dude, the reason the dnc constructed the ridiculous russia story is to make it impossible for trump to investigate the clintons selling out uranium to russia for foundation donations...sort of like how the rnc attacked obama on his birth certificate so no one would notice that mccain was born in panama and might not have even qualified to be president, anyone who's old enough to remember karl rove knows these tactics, attack them on your weak point so even if they manage to defend the attack they'll never be able to get to your vulnerability

>> No.9899231

>>9899220
read Bertrand de Jouvenel's On Power

>> No.9899236

>>9898876
>oh no people are going to be dicks
they always were, they always will be
why should I care who's on the receiving end of the dicking if I'll be dead?
>muh chillens
I plan to leave them smart, strong, and wealthy, and people like that can always have a life somewhere

>> No.9899239

>>9899217
Can you explain to me the how of how all those poor anti-capitalists were able to afford a multi-billion dollar propaganda empire?

>> No.9899240

>>9899207
Nice, but you're too old for this leftist kiddie shit and I know that Amsterdam looked like Mozambique a decade ago so you should be able to at a minimum think about what it will look like in 20-50 years if Europeans don't get their shit together.

>> No.9899247

>>9899239
>inb4 jews

>> No.9899248

>>9899240
You have to wonder though, what the point is in caring about something like that.

>> No.9899253

what was /lit/ like when it was good? any epic threads?

>> No.9899257

>>9899239
Anti-capitalists? What do you think you're living in 1880? This is a jewish propaganda empire, capitalism isn't relevant because the problem is ethnic.

>> No.9899258

>>9899211
>>9899218
this
where do you even get this from?
aside from certain parts of social media, Tumblr, and certain college campuses, I've never encountered this

>> No.9899259

>>9899240
even Varg agrees communism is the only hope for the white race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93cO8Dxtkkc

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>>9897862
Why they so upset

Like, nigga, it just a revolution.
Ain't like gonna die or sum shit.

smdh

>> No.9899266

>>9899253
sort of but it was mostly marxist infighting bullshit that seems all stimulating because you get to throw a lot of jargon around and solve all the worlds problems, but are actually wastes of time, so basically the same

>> No.9899267

>>9899248
Perhaps because generations of men more manly than you lived there and fought and died for it so...you could... what? Hand it over to Africans?

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9899271

>>9899220
Fascist means Nazi, everyone knows that. Despite the fact that America has many many many many many many many fascist policies and positions and are understood as antithetical to Nazism.

>> No.9899272

>>9899257
Okay, so if capitalist "whites" we're in charge of media, not "jews", then what would the media landscape look like? I imagine the same thing because more accepted nice groups equals more markets and more revenue. That's why there are corporate sponsors for Gay Pride parades because now that homosexuality is acceptable they can sell shit to that demographic.

>> No.9899274

>>9899266
so like infinite jest was still a meme?

>> No.9899280

>>9899259
Communism is now ancient jewish ideology responsible for the deaths of countless millions of white men. That you think it's still some kind of ideal means you need to take a step back and reassess your priorities.

>> No.9899283

facism is the convergence of state and corporate power. so like nsa being in bed with google and apple.

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9899285

>>9899257
t. brainlet

everything is a capitalist equilibrium

there is no system outside of market forces

communist states are ruled by capitalist powers

popular politics are dictated by capitalist tendencies

and so on and so forth

you think what you think because someone sold it to you

>> No.9899286

>>9899274
i don't know, dfw threads are like banner ads for online poker to me, my mind just automatically filters them out so i couldn't say

there wasn't as much stirner but there was more rand, oh and there were none of these redpill youtube clowns, i think that's what shitted up /lit/

>> No.9899288

>>9899231
>fr*g
No thanks

>> No.9899289

>>9899267
You're asking me to value a whole lot of things without any real reason except that some dead people went through some pain.

>> No.9899290

>>9899272
Not full of jewish propaganda attacking white people. Jews and whites are different and the fruit of their labor are not going to have the same results.

>> No.9899292

>>9899285
Where do you idiots even get these ideas? Who the fuck has told you that there is a cybernetic capitalist machine loose on its own terrorizing the planet? Surely you have more common sense than this...

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9899299

>>9899258
>>9899211
Nice downplay. Here's what I saw today on Facebook - a huge neo-leftist on my feed shared it ostensibly in response to Charlottesville. I saw a picture of a Nazi being cold-cocked for doing the salute with a snarky caption telling us how to properly punch Nazis.

Funnily enough, at the same time they shared a picture of a black protester who was injured in the riots and demanded that the perp be brought to justice for such a heinous act. Anyone calling out the hypocrisy in these pictures and articles being passed around are /immediately/ written off as Nazi sympathizers and their opinions should be immediately ignored.

It's socially acceptable to be a black nationalist, Mexican nationalist, etc etc. The only type of nationalist you cannot be in this country is a white one.

>> No.9899301

>>9899289
Actually, yeah, I change my mind. If that's how you feel about your own heritage it's probably best that your genes aren't passed along.

>> No.9899312

>>9899147
I want you to know I agree with most of your principles and ideals but I could never be one of you (I almost was for a while) because your end goals and your means of achieving them are too extreme, they're too extreme to achieve, too extreme to be worth it, too extreme to be productive and enjoyable to a majority of people, and too extreme to be stable

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9899314

>>9898021
The "racist right-wing" is a natural response to the accumulation of racial taboos in public dialogue over the past few decades juxtaposed with knowledge of racial IQ statistics.

For example, decades of research has consistently shown that the average African American IQ is about 85. The nature of a variety of social problems becomes obvious when this simple fact is taken into account, and individuals with psychological dispositions that value debate and the exchange of ideas over social cohesion (e.g. 4chan users) are naturally frustrated that the dominant socio-political paradigm deems their views heretical.

>> No.9899318

>>9899301
Why do you care about those things though? For what reason?

>> No.9899319

I've never heard a human speak of another human with as much contempt as people do for the new rightists. There's no attempt to understand here, only to diagnose.

>> No.9899324

>>9899299
From what I've seen on zuckerbook, most people see white nationalism as a source of hate and oppression while other nationalists are fighting for a fair, equal society. White nationalism is also heavily linked to Nazism and the echos of WWII are still present in today's society. It's not cool to be a Nazi but it's cool to fight against them. Either way, promoting violence on either side isn't going to make civil discourse any simpler.

>> No.9899326

>>9899319
Seek out any community of self identified incels. This is baby tier.

>> No.9899330

>>9899223
>to investigate the clintons selling out uranium to russia for foundation donations
for what purpose?
Russia has plenty of uranium, why would they need to be sold more?
if they're already selling them stuff, why would there be donations on top of it?
these donations are presumably not done in the clear, so why even have them donate?
it doesn't make any sense

>> No.9899334

>>9899326
The hatred they have for women, you mean?

>> No.9899335

>>9899318
Because it's under attack by outsiders who in days of yore conditioned me to think similarly to yourself and be a selfish, passive observer to my own genetic destruction with no connection to my own past.

>> No.9899339

>>9899319
just listen to how people use to talk about the old left? people absolutely hated communists, and the most hated president of all time until trump was fdr, most hated in the press i should say, like trump he enjoyed popular support

>> No.9899351

>>9899330
wait, are you actually unaware that the clintons unloaded our uraniam to the russians in exchange for bill giving a couple $500,000 speeches to russian oligarchs? wow

>> No.9899356

>>9899330
even your own holy nytimes had to report it, although i'm sure it was on the frontpage for all of 20 seconds:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

>> No.9899360

>>9899339
FDR also tried to do wiley shit too like the court packing scandal and creating unconstitutional federal agencies left and right. FDR at least seemed competent and came out of it as one of best regarded Presidents.

>> No.9899366

>>9899335
"Because it's under attack by outsiders" isn't a very good reason to value it. We attack cancer cells too, and trees.

>> No.9899367

>>9899339
You guys gleefully shit on McCarthy's legacy all the time. Now you're pretending to be upset about it.

>> No.9899368

>>9899299
>I've only seen this on-line
>hah, shows what you know, here's this picture from Facebook
what are you even doing?
but lets ignore that for now, where was this picture taken? who made this flyer? what is it for?
most importantly, how is this even extreme? it's not condoning violence, it's not using any buzzwords (other than "privilege") like they're normal vocabulary, it's not saying we should give up our rights, it's not saying to get rid of any established systems, what exactly is your problem beyond this person being a whiny bitch?
as for the other pictures, of the black guy and the nazi, you can fucking post them and pictures of your feed or get out

>> No.9899369

>>9898792
people have been offering goats for marriage for thousands of years. theres always an exchange in human relationships.

>> No.9899370

>>9899360
trump might too, he's just getting started, if 7 years from now all these pissed off neonazis are working in factories and watching football on the weekends again instead of spartan larping, isis down to a couple guys hiding in a mountain top somewhere, and heroin and human trafficking down to a trickle thanks to a big beautiful wall i'll say he was damn successful, and just wait till democrats win back some seats in the midterms, then trump can ally with them to fix shitty ass obamacare since the establishment republicans were too inept to get it done, too much winning t b h phammy

>> No.9899373

>>9899314
you're going on easy mode, that's not enough
anybody can google "IQ by race"
where are the papers on how much intelligence is inherited and how much is learned?

>> No.9899375

>>9899367
who's "you guys"? i was a marxist until somewhere in the middle of the obama administration, fuck mccarthy, and i love trump, deal with it fag

>> No.9899378

>>9899370
Yo, that's demand not supply. I can make you fentanyl without heroin as a bachelors in chemistry. The issue is how damn good it is and how many people want to do it.

>> No.9899385
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9899385

>>9897792
If you already know you belong on reddit then why do you ask?

>> No.9899386

>>9899366
If your culture and civilization being under attack does not make you view it as valuable and want to protect it from those trying to destroy it, like I said, best your genes be culled from the rest of ours. Enjoy your life fighting the phantom capitalist machine.

>> No.9899389

>>9897792
rhizzone.net

>> No.9899394
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9899394

I can abide by certain far right augments that are in effect racist. Like that a society is an expression of the genes of its population, and that IQ distributions differ by race. But I can't for the life of me think in those terms when it comes interpersonal relationships. If you would't date a beautiful women because she's brown or mixed-race, you're gay as fuck. If you wouldn't be friends with someone who's smart and interesting just because they're Asian, then you're a socially retarded lunatic. A person's individual humanity is what draws you to them, not their identity.

Do people on the alt-right actually act out their politics in person?

>> No.9899396

>>9899378
well meth is the same, any meth head can cook meth, but the majority of meth in the united states is made in mexico with ingredients sourced from china where they are legal, and then shipped over the border

>> No.9899397

>>9899335
so, revenge then? that's kind of petty
if you people to have a connection to their past, that's great, I support that
you don't need to not have other people around to do that, though
>but muh influence
nigger everyone influences everyone
hell, a lot of white supremacist groups influence people to ignore their own particular history in favor of the idea that all white history is the same, when it isn't, there's a rich and storied history for every country, principality, dukedom, republic, and confederation of Europe and the Americas, but I don't see people like you talking about any parts of it other than basic bitch level American history, even when you claim to want to protect it
what events are important to you? what achievements are important to you? what people, places, and things are important you? do you even know? will you talk about them or will you go back to ideological mudslinging? do you even realize how much I'm helping you by letting you know this? I don't really want to help you make your argument, it just pisses me off when someone is this wrong

>> No.9899400

>>9899386
Why do you identify with historical cultures? They're certainly not mine.

>> No.9899401

>>9899394
What's the alt right? Isn't that a made up scapegoat Shillary used to describe people with common sense?

>> No.9899406

>>9899397
don't act like europeans being replaced by non-europeans doesn't have an effect. north african used to be christian and would still be considered "white" if it hadn't been conquered by muslims arabs, do you suppose egypt is better off under the yolk of islamic arabs than it would have been if it just stayed a greek orthodox country? or how about turkey? do you suppose if turkey was still white there would be so much povery and rampant human rights violations? maybe but probably not as bad

>> No.9899407

>>9899401
People who take Richard Spencer seriously and unironically complain about Jews under their beds at night

>> No.9899408

>>9899401
It's what /pol/ and reddit self described as until five seconds ago.

>> No.9899411
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9899411

>>9899400
Why are you trying to convince people to act against their self interest?

>> No.9899413

>>9899394
if a society is an expression of the genes of its population and iq distributions differ by race then yes, that would apply interpersonally. non-white women would have a completely alien genetic, iq, and psychological expression to a white man.

>> No.9899420

>>9899411
Why is it my self interest to suddenly care about other people and meaningless abstractions?

>> No.9899421

>>9899400
that is the ultimate privilege response, as a bourgeois your "culture" feels like it is everywhere, because of every capital city has the same gucci stores, artisinal coffee shops that charge 20 bucks for a slice of toast, the same bmw's and volvo's etc, but if you leave the wealthy enclave you'll find backwater turkey is very different from even the most hillbilly place in germany or kentucky

>> No.9899422

>>9899356
OK actually that sounds familiar
>>9899351
"our" uranium? it looks like it was mining rights, we still have our own mining rights and reserves
I mean what are they going to do, build nukes? they still have enough nukes to turn every town in America into a microwave burrito
but yes, this does sound kind of investigation-worthy
now why did I not see many people pushing for said investigation, even here? I mean yeah there were some, but most people would just say "she's a criminal" with no elaboration; do you really expect people to believe that with no details and no evidence?

>> No.9899426

>>9899397
>so, revenge then?
Defense. These are words with simple definitions.

>>9899400
That's clear, man, and it won't be yours ever again. Not something I'd be proud of if I were you, though, the broken link in the chain.

>> No.9899428

>>9899411
If one doesn't identify with historical cultures and thinks the only relevant culture is the one they live in, what is against their self interest to disregard white nationalism if they are not interested in it or do not think it's important?

>> No.9899429

>>9899421
I'm lumpen faget, I have no reason to identify or act like I have some connection with viking fish farmers or whatever else.

>> No.9899431
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9899431

>>9899407
The Jews are actually a pretty big problem, they're in positions of power and are always working against their host society, they're always sowing division and hate, perverting the culture.

>> No.9899435
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9899435

>>9899407
Reminder to post this picture whenever jeff the mong comes on here to attack white people.

>> No.9899437

>>9899413
There's a huge distinction between population averages and individual people. I don't select for people based on my knowledge of the average intelligence of their ethnic group. That's autism.

>> No.9899439

>>9899431
to be fair white people destroyed native americans

>> No.9899445

>>9899431
did you see george soros is now shorting the russell 2000 index? is he right? idk

>> No.9899447

>>9899314

The Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study concluded that the IQs of black children adopted by white families did not differ significantly from the IQs of black children raised by their birth parents. There are other studies that come to the similar conclusions but the Minnesota study is one of the most well-known. There's obviously still a huge environmental component to intelligence and the exact nature-nurture ratio still isn't clear to my knowledge, but the fact that a sizable chunk is attributed to genetics has been well established experimentally.

>> No.9899449

>>9899406
I think you replied to the wrong person
what does that have to do with what I said? do you really some other country or tribal group is going to conquer the US?

>> No.9899453

>>9899439
but like you say cultures are just "abstractions" so nothing of value was lost when the native americans got replaced amirite

>> No.9899454

>>9899373
I replied to myself on accident, see: >>9899447

>> No.9899456

>>9899426
but you want to get rid of them, that's more than defense

>> No.9899460

idk. german here but my gf gave up one of his son for mere selfishness and it cascaded generations so i dont feel like its a jew fault or that i owe my race anything

>> No.9899462

>>9899431
You mean the Jews with their IQ that's more than a standard deviation higher than that of whites? If white success is at least partially due to an inherent intelligence, Jewish over-representation in positions of power likely has the same explanation.

>> No.9899468

>>9899456
No, it's not. They were let in under false pretenses by jews and traitors, I merely want to send them back to where they came from.

>> No.9899470

>>9899449
>do you really some other country or tribal group is going to conquer the US?

have you looked at the population stats at all lately? look at the education stats for hispanics, they go to college at much lower rates than whites, if we want to be able to compete with china which churns out 100,000s of engineers a year we're not going to be able to do that with a bunch of people that are content to do labor jobs and supplemental gibs, ok sure it will keep the price of avacados low and take pressure off walmart wages for a while but there's a reason america is america and mexico is mexico

>> No.9899471

>>9899439
[Citation needed]
>"white" people
>implications that they didn't die out of wars against one another and a plague
>implying that "whites" should let themselves be genocided because indians pretty much disappeared
They are actually a pretty good example what awaits Europeans if they don't get their shit together, not how they died out but the result.

>> No.9899473

>>9899447
I'd contend that IQ differences are largely negligible as most professions rely on trained skills, work ethic, and social interaction and every society has had idiots going to the ballot box/making decisions. If the average IQ of an African American is 85 that's still average enough to operate within society and learn the necessary skills to survive. The muh IQ argument seems pretty superfluous in context.

>> No.9899474

>>9899292
Capitalism isn't a conscious effort, retard. It is not effected by some particular agent or entity, it is the very nature of nature itself.

>> No.9899477

>>9899283
>facism is the convergence of state and corporate power
So communism?

>> No.9899483

>>9899474
What a metaphysically and profoundly retarded statement.

>> No.9899488

>>9899483
>What a metaphysically and profoundly retarded statement.
Oh, the ironing.

>> No.9899492

>>9899473
Now that there are major industries where intellectual competence is a major advantage (tech, academia, business) you're starting to see a form of social stratification based on IQ. Back in the day when everyone was a farmer the economic benefits of having a high IQ were relatively minimal, but that's not the case today.

>> No.9899496
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>>9899462
You don't get it, it's fine that they are successful but the question is what they do with that success. It would even be fine if they just stuck to helping other kikes and had a strong in group preference like whites should but the thing that they do is to wreck the nation, turn it's people against one another and try to fuck as much as they can up. This makes them parasites.

>> No.9899504

>>9899492
>Now that there are major industries where intellectual competence is a major advantage (tech, academia, business)
You don't really believe this do you?

>> No.9899508

>>9899496
I don't really see it personally. I think societies do a good job of fucking themselves up (entropy applies to culture), and because Jewish IQ is so high they're over-represented among the group of elites who fucked everything up. I mean, you see Jews all over the political spectrum. They're not all leftist destabilizers.

>> No.9899510

>>9899394
Go back to /mu/ or take off your trip. /pol/ exists as a means to role play and act edgy in a world that wants to stifle any pro-White sentiments.

>> No.9899514

>>9899492
There are plenty of non-soon-to-be-automated positions and industries where anything above average intelligence is essentially negligible or can't be covered up with other character traits. Someone can be dumb as a rock but be a damn good, personable plumber or be average intelligence and a competent security guard.

>> No.9899521

>>9899504
It's not about belief. When people talk about The Bell Curve they only mention the chapter on racial differences in intelligence. But the real thesis of that book is that there's a cognitive elite being formed now that there are more and better opportunities for people to exploit their inherent intelligence for capital gain. We have a caste system where IQ is one of the main variables.

>> No.9899530

>>9899514
I'm not arguing that low-IQ people aren't valuable or that they're inherently inferior to me (I've never tested my IQ; it could be average). I'm arguing that it's a very important factor when it comes to understanding the income disparities between populations, but the Left would never take it into account.

>> No.9899533

A decade old article that is only even more accurate today:
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/10/age-of-white-masochism.html

Here's the final paragraph and the gist for those who don't want to read the entire thing:
>I believe whites in the 21st century should desire a room of our own where we can prosper, live in a major Western city without having to fear violence because of our race, and without being stripped of our heritage in order to placate people who moved to our countries out of their own free will. We have the right to preserve our heritage and are under no obligation to commit collective suicide or serve as a dumping ground for other countries. It has nothing to do with animosity towards others. For my part, I am being entirely honest if I say that I still love visiting other cultures, but I will love this even more if I know I can also return to my own.

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9899536

>>9897862
tfw /pol/ meetup is more diverse.

>> No.9899540
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9899540

>>9899508
You're just uninformed, the history of Jews working against their host nation and her people is a long one. They always do this and they're always at the forefront of the subversive forces, the vanguard. I'm not a fool and I don't blame all my problems on the Jews but most of them are the enemy, especially the cryptokikes.

>> No.9899546

>>9899510
I know that's a factor. A lot of these fags aren't even white (see>>9899536). But the number of serious arguments I've gotten into about "Jewish influence" and "white genocide" give me the impression that a significant percentage of these people are being serious. It started off as a joke, and then it attracted the real Nazis.

>> No.9899554

>>9899536
Yet autism seeps through both photos at the same level. Meetups will never not look autistic.

>> No.9899555

>>9899470
conquering is a planned and deliberate thing
who do you planned this?
also we're sure as fuck not going to have more white engineers if we get rid of the Mexicans doing menial jobs, because they still need to be done
maybe once we get robots that can sweep, mop, clean toilets, and do some other things, but that's taking its sweet fucking time to get here

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9899556

>>9899546
You don't have to be white to be redpilled about the Jews and what they're up to. If anything non-whites know better than to trust the kikes.

>> No.9899559

>>9899474
I think you mean human nature, not nature itself

>> No.9899583

>>9899521
The deciding factor remains education and economic background.

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9899587

>>9899555
>who do you think planned this
also pic related

>> No.9899597

>>9899583
This is misleading. IQ is highly heritable, and people who grew up rich tend to have parents with a higher-than-average IQ. And now that the SATs are taken seriously you have many more poor people with higher IQs receiving scholarships to good universities. So it's hard to disentangle education and economic background from the IQ factor.

>> No.9899600

>>9899559
Everything in nature strives for the utmost gain.

>> No.9899620

>>9899600
again, I think you mean animal nature
physics does not give a shit about winners and losers