/lit/ - Literature

>>9885879
How is this literature?

>reality as it presents itself

Hmmmmmm I wonder what this unpresented reality is that you hint at

>>9885879
what happened before the big bang?

>>9885879
>we have the empirical answer to questions like "what is the meaning of life?", "why are we here?", "what happens after we die?" and "where do we come from?"


Ayy lmbo no we don't

>>9885879
>For example, we have the empirical answer to questions like "what is the meaning of life?", "why are we here?", "what happens after we die?" and "where do we come from?", but the second you actually give these people the answer they claim to be looking for, they mumble "b-but..."
B-But what? All you say is that they then argue against what you believe - which seems to be what you take issue with, rather than any of their arguments being faulty. It appears you have one received view of the world, which you have placed emotional stock in, and find other peoples' challenges offensive. You are so intellectually insulated that you consider, exceptionally stubbornly and rarely, that empiricism has answered all of those questions. I can't think of many other empiricists who would agree.

You come to us with the assumption that your correctness is a given, and simply ask why other people persist in being wrong, instead of presenting your own views, and why you believe them, and then asking what it is that makes others disagree.

>>9885897
Azathoth pulled Nyarlathotep's finger

>>9885968
And you think philosophy can ever hope to answer those questions? Philosophy is the study of representations. To be more precise it is the study of language since everything you and say do is grounded in words and symbols. No exceptions. And if you think that language, ideas, are not physically bounded, think again. Language can disappear through the burning of books and libraries.

>>9885983
Non sequitur. I never said it could answer questions. A lack of faith in language for those reasons undermines empiricism, too.

>>9885983
science is also the study of representations. science is just one out of many ways we can experience reality. And there will always be a remnant, those aspects of reality that remain mysterious and inaccessible to experience. positivist fedora tippers are idolaters who worship static representations of reality forgetting that the world is activity.

>>9885879
we have empirical evidence of none of those questions, which is the fundamental argument... you can't empirically come to conclusions on ontological, or other metaphysical questions. you sound like you've never picked up a philosophy book in your life

because doctors were invented by a legendary fisherman. hes said to have fed every family in his town. young people would sit beside him and he would utter timeless wisdom on wind patterns, the prophetic flight of birds and cloud formations telling of cosmology. one day a sick elderly woman approached him. worried of her health she asked the fisherman of what could be the cause of her sudden illness, as a test of wits. the fisherman asked if she had eaten anything unusual. the womans eyes widen. with heaving breath and a pounding heart she begins to dread the fishermans presence. is everything alright asked the fisherman, but she couldnt speak. and in an instant the woman collapses on the fishermans lap she dips her hand onto the sand and writes in a scribbly manner with her middle finger: 'rot cod'.
the woman breathes her last... the fisherman closes the womans eyes and stares at the writing. rot cod. rot cod. rotten cod! overwhelmed by anguish, he was paralyzed. he spent many a day staring at the writing on the sand with the woman decaying on his lap, consumed by maggots, plucked by birds. rotten cod rot cod. rotcod. ortcod. trocdo. doctor. Doctor. DOCTOR! he proclaimed. as the wind rattled the womans skeleton DOCTOR! as the crashing waves wash off the carnage DOCTOR! as the birds excrement hits the pavement DOCTOR! as the lightning strikes in the cold dark night DOCTOR! the sun peeks over in golden fury over all of humankind to bear witness to a sole man who would change the course of history forever.
The Doctor.

Because they aren't materialists you moron.

>>9885879
> For example, we have the empirical answer to questions like "what is the meaning of life?", "why are we here?", "what happens after we die?" and "where do we come from?"
We can answer some of those to an extent but not fully, others are completely unanswerable using empirical evidence.
Do you believe that mathematics arrives at truth or has utility? It isn't grounded in empirical evidence or observation.

>>9885879
Inductive reasoning, Plato proves the soul. Why is it worse than empirical reasoning?

For example, we have the empirical answer to questions like "what is the meaning of life?", "why are we here?", "what happens after we die?" and "where do we come from?"
Sure

>>9885879
Science show us how, philosophy answers why.

For example, why does an electron oppose a proton? A scientist will explain based on theory etc (I actually haven't a clue myself), but why does this happen? Why does the "empirical" world adhere to these rules, when it could adhere to so many other rules, where it could be that a proton and an electron don't oppose?