/lit/ - Literature

>>9669565
Has the reddit invasion already begun?

not really. As a sympathetic white man i kinda think it's safer to just let them figure it out. I'm listening but I think there's a lot of naivete coming from a lot of these justice-seekers.
The real world isn't so pretty, with most of it being pretty sad and indifferent outside of numbers and bureaucracy. When those sorts of things become more clear I have a feeling most of any revolution will probably die out.

>>9669565
at least they arent in the streets robbing and raping white women

I've read some of it and didn't particularly love it. I really didn't like in BtWaM when Coates said he didn't feel anything for the cops and firefighters who died on 9/11. Cops I get but firefighters? What the fuck?

>>9669565
Torah

>>9669578
Are you serious?

>>9669616
yeah. I just think most minorities don't realize the numbers problem.

I'll be interested in reading about current events in a few decades when there are fewer partisans.

you ever notice that most dog pounds are full of chihuahuas and pitbulls?
lol

>>9669594
Coates is a stupid ape, we've known this.

In interested in reading the books that inform mainstream progressives even if I'm not exactly fond of the ideas themselves.

>reading derrick bell
>wondering how anyone could base a whole theory off of such a horrid string of tenuous arguments
>hurr durr cuz we made restaurants take down "no blacks allowed" signs that means the first amendment is less important than my race whinging

>>9669617
what do you mean by the "numbers problem" ?

>>9669577
>already
We're living in the Post-Reddit era.

>>9669665
Disproportionate education in their populations.
Like we should deny there's a inclination to crime in that circumstance. Most of it is dishonest but noble writing (perhaps selfishly so) that is written by people with a privilege they don't even fully know. It's kind of the trick of the thing.
When that gets addressed I'll be more concerned with making real action to help i guess.
Right now I think we're heading in that direction. It all starts with lip service.

>>9669648
It's pretty easy to understand once you realize the ideology of the contemporary zeitgeist is following the jewish "permanent revolution" model, wherein anything considered traditional or historically normal is inverted, deemed "progress" by the entrenched establishment, and socially enforced by the strict hand of institutions and talking heads that browbeat anyone opposed to these new policies as being "against progress" and therefore immoral and evil, because that's what you have to be if you're impeding what is, obviously, "progress," even though those policies are literally destroying western civilization.

>>9669685
If you're referring to The New Jim Crow, Michelle Alexander is a black woman. She is not writing from a position of privelege.

And in regards to "disproportionate education in their populations," I would argue that that is a direct result of institutional discrimination. Saying that we should not advocate for the marginalized because they lack education is absurd.

>>9669698
>>>9669698
I'm also interested in why you call the writing "dishonest." It is well research and supported by pages of citations.

>>9669698
Not all black women are made the same. She was likely very educated, which is kinda my point. Educated black people speaking for a black population that on the whole tends to not value education. We as white people have been doing our job to repair the institutional discrimination in giving a voice to these select few but it's not our responsibility to just give them things. It doesn't solve the problem.
Notice that their very own institutions do very little to help themselves. We need to be good examples not just a social-crutch.

>>9669710
It's all factual I'm sure but there is so much crucial bullshit that is ignored in these sorts of things.

>>9669713
You clearly have not read the book and have no more than a child's level of understanding of sociology

>>9669713
Aren't black women the most academically credentialed as a percentage of their demographic cohort in the US? That says more about our joke of an education system than anything else, and most of those black women are dying childless due to the criminality of their counterparts.

Anyway, it's never going to work. The gap is too big between blacks and whites, and whites have wasted trillions on blacks with little to no progress. A separation is needed.

>>9669719
What "crucial bullshit" is ignored?

You seem to be arguing that white people have done their part to help the minorities and so they need not do more. You fail to understand that "white people" as an institution is the reason that minorities (especially black males) are in such a terrible position in society. If you actually believe that "white people have been doing [their] job to repair the institutional discrimination" you are completely misinformed and ignorant

>>9669565
>it's the man's fault I commit crimes

>>9669736
lol you're trolling me. I'm out

>>9669746
I really wasn't, but all right.

>>9669741
>You fail to understand that "white people" as an institution
What does even mean?
I never anything to black people. I don't owe then a damn thing.

>>9669759
*did

>>9669760
"as an institution"

"I never did anything to black people"

There is a massive difference between the individual and the institution

I'm not saying you personally did anything

Read the book and you'll know what I mean. It's really a good book and worth reading, whether or not you agree with it (although you haven't read it yet so how could you know whether you agree with it)

>>9669770
It's on pirate bay so you don't even have to pay for it

>>9669770
what is her prescribed solution?

>>9669770
Look at this Vietnamese namefag, or whoever he is, trying to put the collective blame for things like slavery on whites. Do you know less than 3% of whites owned slaves and that jewish merchants had way more of a hand in bringing blacks to America than whites ever did? No, of course not. Lehman Brothers and the Monsanto family (both jewish) got their start as slavers, and now their descendants are pushing all the blame on whites. But this is merely one example of despicable jewish behavior.

>>9669741
>"white people" as an institution is the reason that minorities (especially black males) are in such a terrible position in society
It's a cultural problem. You need to aggressively impose white cultural values (not superficial shit like food and clothes, but things like goals in life, problem solving, responsibility, etc) on blacks for them to perform adequately in a society built on white cultural values. It's not like any amount of affirmative action will help if the whole society is tailored for people who think like whites. And changing society won't work either, because I've yet to see examples of highly organised black societies.

>>9669782

By the way, if it means anything to you, Noam Chomsky recommends the book as one that any and every American who takes any sort of interest in their cultural history needs to read. I sent him an email about it and he answered with a suggestion of a criticism to read.

"Seems to me generally convincing. There are some criticisms that seem worth considering, e.g., James Forman’s work on black community support for stern measure of policing and incarceration (not surprising, since they are often the victims of criminal activity)." - Noam

Since you have not read it, here is a very brief summary:

She explains that the current US criminal justice system, fueled by the War on Drugs, serves to oppress minorities - black men, especially - in a way similar to the old Jim Crow system. It is simply the latest evolution, she argues, of a system of racism and discrimination in the US which is constantly evolving against threats of social reform. The common belief in the US, as fortified by propaganda (see: high school), is to believe that racism and discrimination were resolved with the Civil Rights Movement. It is clear, however, that that is not the case, given, for example, the widespread support for the current administration, which is obviously racist. Alexander argues that because the criminal justice system is legally and constitutionally “colorblind,” it is difficult to notice, and almost impossible to prove, that it is essentially racist. However, if one looks closely, as she did, one discovers weak points that are being exploited to an astonishing degree to funnel minorities into the penal system and keep them locked, even after their release, in a system which limits their potential for employment, housing, and social services. It is a sneaky and dangerous continuation of the United States's tradition of racial oppression, and it is largely unnoticed.

Potential solutions are prison reform and addressing the deeper issues that underlie criminal activity (e.g. education, child rearing, home life, etc)

>>9669795
>which is obviously racist.
No?

>>9669784
Do you have a source? Or are you just vomiting racist rhetoric?

And are jews not white?

spongebob

>>9669796

Not even debatable

>>9669801
>are jews not white
They are white when it suits them, and minorities when it suits them.

>>9669795
>(((chomsky)))
>(((froman)))
Listen up, Charlie. There are already enough jews trying to push anti-white jewish propaganda on here. We don't need slopes jumping in and trying to do the same. Got it?

>>9669795
prison reform I'll agree with to some extent. I believe in a more rehabilitative process.
The other shit, as i've been saying since the beginning is compounded with a bunch of "crucial bullshit" in their culture that is just as easy to ignore as our so-called institutional racism. Truth is, life isn't fair and has some very ugly undercurrents and you just gotta deal with it.
There are a lot of myths about slavery as well. The real root problem probably began more than 1000 years ago.

>>9669810
"Just gotta deal with it" Easy to say when you're fucking white. I feel like I'm arguing with a 14 year old

Of course the problem began a long time ago. How does that make any of this better?

>>9669805
Name one anti-black thing Trump has done.

>>9669801
"Racism" is a fake word used to browbeat whites. You need to check yourself, Hanoi Bob, and stop regurgitating jewish propaganda here.

>>9669807
lol but the jews have been continually persecuted since the beginning of civilization. I have a hard time blaming them for anything

>>9669812
It's not like you really have a choice.
There is actually a lot of wisdom in basic teenage revelations. Especially when it comes to issues that are way out of our control.
From the beginning i've said, let them figure it out. We'll be here listening but don't expect us to bend over backwards.

>>9669817
b8

Go home everybody, he gave himself away.

>>9669816
Watch spongebob retard

>>9669818
oh my god you are 14. fuck off

>>9669817
There's a reason why jews have been kicked out of 100+ countries, and it's because of their behavior, not because other people have persecuted them.

>>9669823
the paradox of this post made my head hurt.
>>9669817
I love the jews and consider many to be heroes but you gotta understand they're not necessarily any better than anyone else. They have their own issues stemming from their religion just like all the others.

>>9669826
Granted, they have been acting like cunts recently. But the fact is that they have been the victims for most of history. Which makes it all the more ironic

>>9669828
>I love the jews and consider many to be heroes
wew my good lad

>>9669824
I'm 14 because I'm realistic and believe in self-reliance and practical utilitarianism. Okay.

>>9669828
Where did I say they were better than anyone else?

>>9669830
LOL
you are a child right?
nothing fucking changed you moron.

>>9669838
you said you had a hard time blaming them for anything.
I'd blame them for just about everything bad you can say about capitalism. They essentially created it.
smart people, dont get me wrong but they play a large role in all of this.

>>9669837
Your entire philosophy is "pick yourself up by your bootstraps," a belief system has been the butt of the joke for the last 50 years

>>9669828
>I love the jews and consider many to be heroes
Stop being a cuck. Jews hate you and view you as a member of their cattle. You're what they call a "shabbos goy." Wise up to the JQ, bud.

>>9669830
It's nothing recent, Ho Chi Minh. They've been doing the same shit since Egyptian times.

>>9669848
watch spongebob retard

>>9669847
there are degrees to it but I think this blanket lie has some truth in it has led to some of our country's great successes over the years, the same successes that even enable you to give a shit about these sorts of things youre concerned with

>>9669855
The exception that proves the rule. Please educate yourself

>>9669848
I know a lot of good jewish people. I know a lot of good black people too.
Am I going to say I don't see the problems with their populations in society? No, but i dont blame them all for it.
Dumb kids like OP have probably never met an authentic "hood" citizen and are just kinda naive to the issue.

>>9669862
you're naive bud.
Your whole stance is paradoxical by that same logic. It's kinda why I stand where I do. Youre fighting an endless fight.

>>9669865
OP here. I work daily with "hood" citizens. I am not arguing that the individual is not responsible to a degree - if I did blame all their problems on society I would be robbing them of their agency as human beings. I am arguing that there are social issues at the root of criminal activity and that we need to address those issues for the sake of society as a whole. It is in all and each of our best interests

>>9669866
Explain

>>9669865
Your lens to reality is skewed because you're a European man who views people individually, and assume they think the same as you, when they don't. Jews are known as "the tribe." They are semites and their actions are determined solely by what's best for their tribe. Read the Culture of Critique before you rush to defend jews online please. It's a very important book that will assist you in understanding the issue here.

>>9669870
ugh then youre only into this for some ego career shit.
fuck off you predatory love-seeking leech.

>>9669877
What do you do for work? Best Buy?

book is garbage, people in the african-american community asked for those harsh sentences on drug dealers, then when it back fired they blamed it all on whitey

>>9669876
I actually read the book in high school and thought it was interesting but didnt understand parts of it at the time.
But no, I am european but i have some jewish characteristics and know some very powerful jewish people who just dont fit into the stereotype (they are rich but culturally progressive anti-zionists)

>>9669878
I'm a lawyer.

it's funny how jews can be both blamed for communism and capitalism at the same time.

>>9669884
What kind of lawyer

>>9669878
>70 / 1 / 15 / 1
lmfao

why are you talking to yourself

>>9669889
well it's true.
Jews are smart and were frequently associated with money and politics.

>>9669893
you're like a black guy who blames everything on the whites

>>9669890
if i said criminal defense would you be triggered?

>>9669847
>a belief system has been the butt of the joke for the last 50 years
Ah, I now see what's the key problem of our culture of the last 50 years. Seriously, relying on oneself first and foremost, and taking responsibility for one's life, is what being an adult is about.

>>9669897
I'm not blaming them. I'm just stating the facts.
they're both good ideas that can easily go wrong. It's not a coincidence the jews are involved is all I'm saying,

>>9669900
>muh boostraps

but what about da jooz? they keepin a strong white brotha down!

>>9669902
Feeling the personal responsibility for your life is a prerequisite for opposing the jews. Same applies for the black-white relationship, in fact.

>>9669883
Jewish characteristics? Meaning jewish blood?

I'm impressed that you tried to read it in high school, I really am. You should give it another go and try to understand that this is not about anecdotes from your personal life or individual jews you know; if that's how you perceive reality you'll never understand much of anything. The debate about the JQ regards group dynamics and strategy. Jews are so successful because they utilize a group strategy, but this comes at the expense of whites who think individualistically and are therefore unable to comprehend that jews are using that group strategy against them, against us. Jews are actively opposed to your interests. Try not to allow the nice jew down the street to blind you from seeing this.

Does anyone else really hate books about and by niggers and women?

>>9669917
I just look kinda jewy I guess. No Jewish blood as far as i'm aware. I am good with money however.
And yeah i read it based on an r9k recommendation way back in like 2008 in a similar thread.
I don't knock their social strategy, I actually think it's what the blacks should do, it works and I could see how it could be mutually beneficial if approached properly (an inevitability i think).

>>9669594

>he didn't feel anything for the cops and firefighters who died on 9/11.

Well I guess he'll understand if I feel nothing when random black criminals get shot dead by the police.

>>9669917
you think italians don't do the same shit? italians are another tribal people who wage war on everyone else. deal with it.

>>9669933
Italians are like more wholesome and human Jews, I like them
Sicilians are Moorish nigger mongrels though

>>9669900
That's not what the expression means. Because you obviously don't understand it, "Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" is ironic because it's physically impossible to bend down and lift on your bootstraps and lift yourself off the ground. It's a metaphor.

>>9669935
they just seem greasy and obnoxious

>>9669883
>(they are rich but culturally progressive anti-zionists)
What does their anti-zionism boil down to?
Do they give money to Palestinian charities, for example?
Does their cultural progressiveness include marrying non-Jewish women or encouraging Jewish women to marry men of a dark complexion?

>>9669889
It's funny how arguments can pass through one ear and out the other, producing a tickling sensation.

They work behind desks and maintain solidarity behind closed doors. That's all it boils down to. No master plan, just a general scramble to get to positions of authority and to assist their kin in the same. They'll support anything that lets them get a leg up.

The naivety of the whole "hurr both capitalism and communism" argument is almost touching. People who make it literally cannot imagine being habitually insincere and two-faced.

>>9669936
>subscribing holistically to a loose-fitting metaphor/analogy to discredit a totally rational opinion
ok.

>>9669930
I think you should delve back into understanding the jewish problem. There's a lot more too it than I'm inclined to believe you think there is, and a lot of work has been done on it since the CofC came out, which was actually a long time ago. Kevin Macdonald, the author, runs the website theoccidentalobserver.net , that's a good source of information.

>>9669933
It's quite a bit different. Italians are Europeans, and they aren't running our banks, NGOs, major govt lobbying groups, our media, Hollywood, and the porn industry, etc., and using those things to subvert western society.

>>9669945
That's exactly what you are doing

>>9669949
get the fuck out of my board you stupid namefag cunt.

>>9669943
If anything my jewish associates have euro-fetishes. They love beautiful white women and make sensitive, self-aware and biting racial jokes at blacks and their own expenses.
They dont give to palestinians in order to maintain complete neutrality (btw the palestinians take it as an insult.
They just avoid zionist pressures from their peers I guess. They dont actively support that country in any way.

>>9669945
Read some books, volunteer, graduate high school. Your opinions will change, I guarantee it. For now, take comfort in the fact that you don't have to pay rent or work to survive

>>9669948
>Italians are Europeans, and they aren't running our banks, NGOs, major govt lobbying groups, our media, Hollywood, and the porn industry, etc., and using those things to subvert western society.

white people would argue they are "Mediterraneans" who are undermining free countries with their authoritarian ideology of "catholicism" which is more oriental than european, also italians control many industries like construction, waste management, shipping, etc. there's a reason every city with a critical mass of italians is corrupt as all hell

>>9669959
actually the opposite happened.
My friend is black and super poor and he pays 50 dollars for his rent and practically gets his education for free from the city college.

He's still in school I graduated in half the time using my middle-class advantage and am now living comfortably and fully employed in a meaningful profession. I'm sure he'll catch up but in a way I kinda see how it evens out.

>>9669735
>child's level of understanding sociology
Don't pretend the social sciences are taught for anyone beyond the level of comprehension for over-privileged children.
Social justice "literature" is a joke and you arguing with idiots ITT is the big fucking punchline

>>9669982
NI HOY MINOY

>>9669565
I had no choice but to read this book because of uni. It is bullshit propaganda aimed at white upper middle class libtards. The worst part was the trite and obnoxious historical account. It was filled with some of the most truly delusional analysis I have ever seen, pure ideology. I would have dropped it after this section if I was just reading for myself. I have to admit it was at some points quite amusing, I found particularly funny the part where she seemed about to advocate for making felons a protected class. She might have actually done so, I read it a year ago and cant remember.

Its clear you are from reddit so I'll let you know /lit/ is a reactionary board. We despise all fashionable liberal social movements. You should go back where you came from.

>>9669965
What white people? One can be both Mediterranean and European, obviously. But your representation of Italians seems outdated and based on the Sopranos. Few are catholic these days and many of the formerly Italian industries and neighborhoods in the northeast have been taken over by non whites. It's true that Christianity is an "oriental" religion, though, if oriental means jewish.

>>9669965
>white people would argue
whom
>italians control many industries like construction, waste management, shipping
where
>every city with a critical mass of italians is corrupt as all hell
when

>>9670009
Judaism is hardly oriental. That's actually its main issue.

>>9670006
Not from reddit but true i did not realize until tonight that /lit/ is so far right. Pretty disappointed. Fuck you all

>>9670014
I'm actually an ultra-liberal.
Just not a pleb like you.

>>9670014
Go to reddit you stupid nigger loving tripfaggot. Thats where you belong no one wants you here.

>>9670020
lol so butthurt

>>9670017
To the extremist ideologue, all other people are all the way to the other side of the spectrum until they submit

>>9670011
>Judaism is hardly oriental.

are you retarded?

>>9670011
He said Christianity is oriental; I was only agreeing if 'oriental' loosely meant 'jewish.' Christianity is a semitic desert religion, as is judaism, obviously.

>>9670026
Maybe you dont understand oriental...
there are sort of eastern-religious elements in judaism but for the most part their relationship with God is too close and entrenched in history.
The catholic idea has a tenant of sort of "letting go" that differentiates it.

>>9670009
>Few are catholic these days

are you fucking retarded?

>>9670009
>many of the formerly Italian industries and neighborhoods in the northeast have been taken over by non whites

yeah, due to low immigration from italy, they have had to branch out and let hispanic catholics get a piece

you claim jews want to "undermine white nationalism via open boarders" etc. but the biggest open border advocates are italians because they hope they can get a majority of catholics to bum rush the borders and then take control of the government from the protestants and jews, probably won't work, but they're sure trying

>>9670014
the problem isn't a WHOLE board being right wing
the issues is that criminal justice reform is never going to happen in the United States and idiots like you think we should feel bad about it
black men deserve everything coming to them
go cry somewhere else

>>9670029
well fuck it if judaism is "european" then so is islam so what's the big deal if france becomes islamic, it's all "european heritage" right

>>9670024
Just trying to send you home. Wish I could do the same thing for all the niggers you love so much.

>>9670014
/lit/ isn't that far-right, there's basically one dude with no life who rants about jews 24/7 and then some redpill teen who watched too much youtube, pretty much everyone else is leftist or neutral, personally i'm an american capitalist, in that i believe the american capitalist project is "the end of history" it's just a matter of time until everyone catches up to us, and people like isis etc. are the death spasms of the old order, feels p nice to be on the right side of history to be honest famalam, try it

>>9670031
Your post is insane, I'm having trouble figuring out how to respond.

For instance:

>the biggest open border advocates are italians because they hope they can get a majority of catholics to bum rush the borders and then take control of the government from the protestants and jews

Do you actually believe that?

>>9670036
this board reeks of redpill and incest

>>9670033
Lol ... I don't think anyone is saying that. I sure didn't. I want immediate kebab removal in France, but more importantly, I want to see the destruction of jewish organizations like the LICRA and CRIC (I think it is), and for jewish families like the Sassoons and Dreyfus' run the fuck out. Jews are the main problem here, as always.

>>9669741
> You fail to understand that "white people" as an institution is the reason that minorities (especially black males) are in such a terrible position in society.

Ah yes, if only the "minorities" in our country could live life like those isolated tribes in the amazon who don't have to deal with privileged white people stealing their culture and inoculating their children from disease.

>>9670036
USA will follow the EU, falling apart

>>9670042
man thats what society really smells like.
we're mostly just disillusioned liberals.
catch up pleb.

>>9670037

i don't remember any jews volunteering to provide sanctuary for from ice for illegals in synagogues ever, but i cannot say the same for catholics

look at the supreme court, protestants despite being the majority in america and the founders of america are a minority on their own court! it's packed with jews and catholics. italians are just "the other jews". and no, i've never seen sopraos but i live in new jersey and i've worked in the bronx.

personally i don't even care that much, but it's just stupid when people act like the jews are the only tribal group with an agenda

>>9670049
and interfering with their economic and political structure to keep them from ever developing into a first world country

>>9670042
cool character assassination
if you don't like it , I recommend you leave and never come back
you're obviously not interested in serious discourse

>>9670036
>someone posted this unironically

>>9670055
how has your mortal enemy, Le Ebil White Man, interfered with the economic and political structure of Asia and African hermit-tribes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples

>>9670055
I would blame capitalism for that and merely as a unavoidable consequence. Somone has to lose, someone has to be born at the bottom. Africa just happened to suck and so some bad deals were struck. It will get better over time, it's just and adjustment period.

>>9670057
Are you so threatened by people with different opinions

>>9670054
Jews are the main ones with the tribal agenda here and the source of the problems. Everyone has a tribal sense, but we're talking about a spectrum here. The Catholic Church is little more than an arm of jewish power these days and its goals are indistinguishable from liberalism. Both the protestant and catholic churches have caved to jewish interests and were never very disconnected from them anyway because Christianity is itself jewish. It's a universalist ideology.

Why are you retards arguing about white and black identity politics in the US when you don't even understand justice?

>>9670068
your opinions are hardly threatening.
I feel like you haven't even been spoon-fed enough Bill Maher to have this conversation.

>>9670074
If we employed original position as Rawls suggested this book / thread would not exist

>>9670061
life is always better when you live in the world as it is rather than wasting your life being angsty because the world isn't the way you think it ought to be

>>9670075
>Bill Maher
literally never watched

>>9670055
If you want to know why a country is still a shit hole look at what all the first world country have that they don't. White people.

>>9670079
it's an impossible ideal to achieve.
the fact that you dont see the issue with that statement only further exposes your false-footing and naivete.

>>9670084
America and every other first world nation was built on the backs of slaves

>>9669812
>>9669853
comfirmed 20 yo american retard

>>9670088
africans had slaves too dummy. They likely even started it.
They practically invited white people to join.

>>9670074

because race and class are ~*~inextricably linked~*~

> except for all the immigrants of different Asian backgrounds who come to the US from successful, stable societies with established social hierarchies and 3 digit IQs do quite well for themselves, and are generally total bros

>>9670088
Every civilization in history was built on the backs of slaves

America wasn't built on cotton and south was always poor even with slave labor

>>9670088
absolutely false
America isn't even a first world country

>>9670088
To bad they cant do anything useful without a white man to whip them huh? Couldn't even whip each other into doing something useful when they enslaved each other. Just too dumb.

>>9670088
I know a family in africa that actually still has slaves in a way.
I imagine that not all historical US slaves were treated like complete shit and yet this modern-age african family absolutely does. They call them servants but i can assure you that's not what they are.

>>9670095
You're right. Ever since Trump was elected

>>9670068
what the fuck is wrong with you?
you can't claim to have a different opinion if you don't know that mine is to begin with
these ill-founded presuppositions are exactly why people are attacking you
perhaps I agree with you that prison reform is desperately needed in this country but can't stand your attitude to bring down the collective level of discourse on /lit/ by your shitposting

>>9670088
holy...i want more

>>9670105
How could i possible bring down the level of discourse on a board populated by apes

>>9670111
that's not a very friendly way to talk about us blacks, OP

we prefer "NEETbux americans"

>>9670103
never was and slaves had no predomonant role in European economy/society, never needed them they were just another trade product with no other redeeming quality

>>9669565
I would hope this thread would teach you someone can be intelligent and not share your values. Seems you're too close minded to think anyone could disagree with you without being inbred and uneducated. Typical "open minded" liberal.

>>9670084
>>9670088
Singapore, Japan, Hong Kong, and Taiwan would like to have a word with you.

>>9670103
They'll love you on r/politics

>>9670126
diplomacy doesn't register in OP's vocabulary

>>9670126
All white.

A thread died for this.

>>9670111
see
>>9669995
>>9669853

ironic shitposting is still shitposting

Stop being anti-white