/lit/ - Literature

are you telling me when were actors?

>>9609510
>try to imagine infinite Jest as a film
>literally can't even
Can you imagine pages upon pages being translated into just a bunch of regular scenes with no backstories/descriptions?

It is. /lit/fags are autistic embarrassing marxists, and /tv/ is that chill guy down the street

>>9609516
Yeah you can you literal retard. An image (+accompanying audio) at 1080p can communicate more than a sentence, no matter what that sentence is. Are we really gonna have this basic ass argument?

>>9609526
Nice meme.
>le one sinlge sentence is the same as a picture

>>9609526

>>9609518
I don't believe anyone above the age of 15 and of sound mind can bear /tv/

>>9609510
I am a film nerd and no film is not superior to literature, only art form superior to literature is music.

>>9609542
But film incorporates music you fool.

>>9609542
music isn't art.

>>9609546

>>9609547
Qualiy dissertation proving that m8.

They're both shit. Novels are for women.

You know your medium is shit when humans are its main focus.

>>9609549
Yes?

>>9609555
>when humans are its main focus

As opposed to...?

Film theory student here. No, it's not.

Films are interesting, probably the most important art form of the XXth century ; Godard even states that without films, the XXth century is nothing. But it's nothing compared to literature. Literature is vast, complex, rich, full of paradoxes, of important books that shaped the History of mankind. Films are great, yeah, but it's just not on the same level.

I think what is interesting about films is that they can convey interesting ideas to a large audience, they shape the way a lot of people see the world.

>>9609599
Negroes, Orientals, Terrorists, etc...

>>9609602
>Films are great, yeah, but it's just not on the same level.
But they are.
Films combine writing, photography, and music.

It only takes one person to write a story.

>>9609611
They combine it, and so what? It doesn't mean they add up, it means they overlap. They work together. Nothing more.

>>9609638
>Nothing more.
Source?

>>9609639
Just watch Godard's Histoire(s) du cinéma man.

>>9609658
Does he give his opinion or is there some kind of objective proof involved?

>>9609599
>As opposed to...?
Anything other than humans doing stuff. Poetry comes close to providing this, but is ruined by it's focus on phonaesthetics and rhythmic.

>>9609664
He tries to demonstrate how editing different sounds, pictures and texts together create different meanings and how cinema is not an art form but more of what he calls a "thinking form". I think it's a beautiful demonstration. I'm not sure you would call it an "objective proof" tho.

Bump

>>9609516
>trying to imagine a shit book as a film

>>9609611
Eh, so do Operas. With live orchestration, and sans electronics.

There is nothing inherent to either and if you were really a fan of kino I mean a real moviegoing fanatic you would never pigeon hole such a huge accomplishment on the human scale into vague comparisons with another medium. Have you ever watched a film? I mean really watched it frame-for-frame with your eyes wide open? Shaking so badly from swallowing benzedrex with your Mountain Dew to revive yourself from the previous night's prolonged debauch including black tar heroin and nitrous oxide, fucking the wrinkled asshole of a woman you met drinking beer in her storage unit/ apartment; clinging to a shard of consciousness while the 10th hour of Satantango collides with every belief you ever had about your own Ego? I don't think you have ever watched a film. I don't think you even know what a film is.

>>9609779
It's easy to call the giant a "sinking ship" when you ignore the scale of the giants and the money they pull.

Have you never heard the phrase "a picture is worth a thousand words?" It doesn't matter how many pictures you have and how fast you play them back, words will always have the upper hand.

>>9609547
Wrong. Music is the only art that matters. Idiot.

>>9609925
music is cheesecake of the brain.
It's the most enjoyable but in terms of understanding the world its probably one of the weakest arts

>>9609674
>>9609674
>ruined by it's focus on phonaesthetics and rhythmic

take that back!

>>9609510
>post yfw you realized performing analingus was the only true art form.

>>9609526
Wew, we're getting desperate with the bait aren't we?

>>9609928
Well who the fuck gives a fuck about "understanding the world" when you're already deriving gratification from a single thing without yearning for anything else.

You're put in a room with only your "cheesecake", and someone else is put in a room which provides "understanding the world." The latter is literally worthless if it doesn't overlap with "cheesecake" content since without enjoyment there is anhedonia, which leads to depression (failing as a human), or even suicide.

>>9610024
replace cheesecake with masturbation and you'll see the issue.
the real world is not anything like the pleasant ego-bubble that music and other more commercial entertainments provide.
It supports an unhealthy relationship with reality.

I hate music.

>>9609516
voiceover narration hello

>passive engagement artforms better than active engagement artforms
>ever

>>9610245
>reading is an active engagement

Lmao the writer did everything you just have to read the shit. This is not active by any chance.

>>9610258
>he doesn't read actively
So just audio erotica then?