/lit/ - Literature

>>9570078
that pynchon chart should probably be updated.

Anyone interested in making some new charts? I was thinking about making one about some edgy, disturbing books but I'd like some help.

>>9570135
get that fake shit out of here.

>>9570109
awful. this as an informative picture, holds no meaning or sense at all. it is fully engulfed in the meme. awful.

Anyone have the Kierkegaard chart?

>>9570135
>Holy Bible so high
Anyone have an ACTUAL /lit/ list?

>>9570135
>"Foucalt's Pendulum"

Holy shit

>>9570987
The one I have from a few years back is pretty much the same thing.

>>9570987
Last proper one

>>9570225
>>9570109

ughh... just read both authors in chronological order.

Camus in particular intended MoS/The Stranger/Caligula as a combined effort and The Rebel/The Plague/The Just Assassins as another.

Nietzsche chart anyone?

>>9572458

Just start with Kaufmann's biography and go anywhere from there.

>>9570987
>>9570987
>>9571016

>bible is high
>2016 has bible in top 10 too

are you retarded? go back to r/books newfag.

pretty much >>9571015

/lit/ reads the same 100 books with slight variation.

>>9570262
I'm down

>>9571016
>jerusalem

>>9570078
http://imgur.com/gallery/U4OHY

There you go boys

Is there any Philosophy related ones? (apart from >>9570272)

Where should I start with Nietzsche? Just ordered Thus Spoke Zarathustra

There's a whole website dedicated to these so we don't have to post and repost them here.

http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki//lit/_Wiki

>>9572819
Justine – Marquis De Sade
Blasted – Sarah Kane
Titus Andronicus – William Shakespeare
Platform - Michel Houellebecq
A Modest Proposal – Jonathan Swift
The Complete Manual Of Suicide - Wataru Tsurumi
American Psycho – Bret Easton Ellis
Selfish, Little: The Annotated Lesley Ann Downey / Lazy / Tool – Peter Sotos
Child Of God – Cormac McCarthy
The Maimed – Hermann Ungar
Eden Eden Eden – Pierre Guyotat
The Obscene Bird of Night – Jose Donoso
The Eyes – Jesus Ignacio Aldapuerta
Notice – Heather Lewis
Last Exit to Brooklin – Hulbert Selby Jr.
Mygale – Thierry Jonquet
The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things – JT Leroy
This Way for the Gas, Ladies and Gentlemen - Tadeusz Borowski
Steps – Jerzy Kosinski
The Tunnel – William Gass
Off Season – Jack Ketchum
Tampa – Alissa Nutting
S.: A Novel about the Balkans / The Taste Of A Man - Slavenka Drakulić
Rape: A Love Story – Joyce Carol Oates
Cancer Ward – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
The Conspiracy Against The Human Race – Thomas Ligotti
Journey To The End Of The Night / Death On The Installment Plan – Celine
Les Chants de Maldoror - Comte de Lautréamont
Geek Love – Katherine Dunn
Bastard Out Of Carolina – Dorothy Allison
A Small Corner of Hell - Anna Politkovskaya
Atrocity Exhibition – JG Ballard
Cows – Matthew Stokoe
Tampa – Alissa Nutting
Babyfucker – Urs Allemann
The Wasp Factory – Iain Banks
Hogg – Samuel Delany
Frisk – Dennis Cooper
The Consumer – Michael Gira
Story Of The Eye – Georges Bataille
In The Miso Soup – Ryu Murakami
The Piano Teacher – Elfriede Jelinek
The End of Alice – AM Homes
Torture Garden – Octave Mirbeau
Down There – JK Huysmans
A Sentimental Novel – Alain Robbe Grillet


That's what I have so far. Something I should add? Something I should remove? I've read the majority of it but not all of them, so some of them could not qualify. Suggestions and comentaries are welcome.

>>9573130

Geek Love is good? Dismissed it because of the title.

>>9573192
Yes. It's quite freaky and well written. Not a masterpiece but it's an interesting read.

>>9573130
Irene's Cunt - Aragon
Songs of a dead dreamer and grim scribe - Ligotti
A clockwork orange - Burgess
Steps - Kosinsky
Grotesque - Kirino

Nice list so far, if I remember any more I'll post them

>>9573244
Great. Noted (Steps is already inside)

>>9570109
hey fuck you i'll make a thread about it when i eventually read it if i want to

>>9573192

it's actually great even if the title sounds YA and every cover I've seen is repulsive. disarmingly good considering how shoddily it's presented

>>9573316
I noticed after I sent that, my bad bro

Does anyone have that Nabokov flow chart?

Can someone make a chart chart please? I need a flowchart to see which chart to start.

>>9573192
Its written by a woman and being shilled by Redditors.

>>9573506
Start with the Greeks

>>9571016
>Jerusalem
>29

Anyone have a Bible translation chart?

>>9573130
nice list. i think someone should also make a chart of ambivalent young men finding their way/making fun of shit, passively going through a story like the existential novels

Evola guide or 'pre-reading' for Nietzsche guides?

>Come on dostoyevsky
>You can't just use 3 names for one person, how will we follow the plot.
>You said it was about murder, it took 200 pages to get to it.

pls no bully

>>9574419
Unless this is opposition research you are a fucking idiot.

Pfft, get on my level.
Here's the chart.
>My taste
>Books read by me
>Your taste
>Books read by you

Sci-Fi/Cyberpunk chart?

>>9574461
bit mean desu

>>9574419
Drown yourself kike

>>9574485
lmao

>>9574479
It's a bit one-sided. I wonder if the propaganda traumatized you as a child.

>>9574524
i never read any of the listed books

>>9574545
>i never read
well this is /lit/ after all

>>9574419
>all that Adorno
We New School naow

>>9570078
What's V. about?

>>9575318
It's an English version of Mr. Robot.

>>9575332
That show was a meme. I gave up after a few episodes.

>>9573130
You a freak nigger

>>9575731
What, why?

>>9574419

>>9571016
>bottoms dream
when will this meme die

>>9574485
Keep your political right/left dichotomy bullshit the fuck out of /lit/.

Is there a chart for "fun" reading, like books that are just wonderful page-turners

>>9575781
Do people really need to read all those books to be selfish?

>>9575974
No just to justify it.

>>9575958
There should be a chart with a gradual difficulty. Some of the classics are easy and some are more difficult. For those of us just starting out it can be difficult to get back into reading with a /lit/ mindset.

>>9570124
>Kafka
>surreal
Fuck off with this meme, there's hardly anything surreal about Kafka.

>>9575982
Oh that'd be good, casual to pro.

I'll start the template if people want to recommend some books, and I'll make a chart.

>Light Reading Tier (Entertaining and easy reads for people who just want a good story)

Harry Potter
Lord of the Rings
The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
A Moveable Feast

>Moderate Tier (Mostly straightforward reads that have more unique styles of presentation)

Slaughterhouse 5
Catch-22
The Stranger
Kafka On The Shore

>Challenging Tier (Books that are complex in terms of narrative and language, offering a challening read for experienced readers)

The Crying of Lot 49
The Brothers Karamazov
Moby-Dick

>Grandmaster Tier (In both scope and theme, these books are sprawling and intricate reads that require constant focus and critical interpretation. For seasoned readers only)
Ulysses
Gravity's Rainbow
Infinite Jest
War & Peace

>>9575978
kekd

>>9573127
Holy shit, there's Marilynne Robinson chart.

>>9573130
>the Tunnel
>disturbing
Whew lad.

>>9571016
These lists should just be banned desu.

>>9570272
I mean I'm a philosophy major but do people on this subreddit really read this stuff if they're not interested in analytic philosophy?

I mean it's fine it's just the exact opposite of literature. It's very...well, analytic and mathematical. Reducing language to it's most basic terms

I'm thinking of a book I read like halfway through as a kid. The Nazis had won the war and the protag is an English Jew who is in domestic slavery to a government official and the official's wife forces the Jew to fuck her and the official beats the guy with piano wire and the Jew escapes to join the resisatance with a Polish whore.

What's the title pls? It's been driving me crazy.

>>9575982
>>9576052
this is the stupidest idea i've ever heard

DFW guide anyone?

>>9576052
>Infinite Jest

>>9576670
It's fucking easy just read it pussy

>>9570078

2017 picks

>>9577162
>infinite jest
>down 39 points

kek

>>9577162
I wish it included preferred translations/versions too, especially for Homer, Divine Comedy..

>>9576190
>"Your cunt tastes like the third reich"
>Not edgy

>>9577251
>edgy
>disturbing
Pick one.

>>9577162
Fuck off

>>9576052
Never recommend anything ever again, you plebbit-tier retard

>>9575982

There's already a chart like that.

>>9577681
>The dead as a separate piece

>>9577166
we cant agree on translations senpai

>>9577911
Well maybe not a BEST translation but "this translation is good for X, this is for y" and then maybe "this version of the book include/differs/has got something extra included"
mmaybe i o it when im bored

>>9577916
the ebook file has multiple translations for some of the big name entries for you to choose from.

also last time tried to make a "recommended translations" chart it was an unmitigated disaster that created a reddit-tier pleb chart

>>9577162
>preferring Gass' The Tunnel over Sabato's The Tunnel

wew lad

>>9574419
Zizek, Luxemburg and Wilde are meme authors. There's also too much Adorno. Besides that, this is surprisingly ok

>>9578290
go home pablo

>>9573127
>Arse Full of Farts
>former meme
>former

>>9577835
>proust
>ultimate

I think agree with Cormac McCarthy on Proust.

>>9578636
if you haven't read all of those before you're ~18, 20 at the latest, you're a dilettante pseud who should just kys

>>9578545
>agreeing with corncobs tortillaman yecarthy

amazing faggotry anon, go back to r/books

>>9578642
>Starting with the Republic
This entire list is stupid.

>>9578694
It's fine enough. Plato was a very clear writer. It is not optimal to start Plato wit Republic but it's okay to start the aim of the list with it (and others)

>>9578694
>>9578698
Fuck where do I start then there's to many memes. I'm just a fictionfag trying to fit in

>>9578648
Couldn't find Varange and Degrelle from libgen/bookzz.. this must be some weird shti lmfao

Post Poetry one pls

>>9578643
Fuck off.

>>9578961
you have to go back. -spits-

Ye.

>>9578739
Varange is a pen name for Francis Parker Yockey. Try searching that.

>>9579151
thank you friend

>>9577162
>Fake manipulated chart
Stop

>>9574475
That's in the scifi thread.

>>9576663
>>9577821
I don't see why a chart like this would be a bad idea. There's plenty of people on /lit/ that want to read the more difficult books but have to work there way up to it. Not all of us have been reading for our entire lives. Its a learned skill, just like anything else. People would like to know they are going to enjoy what they spend money or bandwidth on. /fit/ has noobie gain guides, the drawing board has introductory materials, /tv/ has introductory suggestions. etc. Yet, /lit/ has a top 100 book list and a start with the greeks meme. I understand you want your super special media consumption to be superior, but really, it should be just as easy or welcoming to new people, except you call them a faggot and imply they have shit taste, but at least give them a chance and the resources to catch up.

>>9570325
>>9572819

What program do people use to make charts?

Does anyone have the Christian/lit/ chart?

Can someone post the greeks

>>9580002

>>9580002
>>9580044
If you're just getting into Christian reading, I would recommend Mere Christianity (it's the most entry level and it doesn't have bias towards any particular branch of Christianity).

The Everlasting Man, or any GK Chesterton is good to read after that. And once you know the basics of theology, I would highly recommend The Spirit of Mediaeval Philosophy.

Also, read City of God once you have a good understanding of the course of events in the Bible. City of God isn't actually that hard to read or understand.

>>9570272
no Hume? No Popper?

>>9577835
is crime and punishment really that easy?

>>9578787
Every. Senior. Citizen. Should. Have. Life alert.

>>9580106
It's "harder" than everything else on its tier but not as bad as Lolita, IJ, Pynchon or Dubliners.
To put it with Vonnegut, 1984 and Kerouac is a little disrespectful though.

>>9580044
>Orthodox lit
>Doesnt have Everyday Saints

>>9571016
Infinite jest isn't an ironic meme? Should I really read it?

>>9580488
It's a great book that honestly isn't very hard to read at all. I don't know why it gets lumped in with Ulysses and gravity's rainbow at

Do you guys have a chart for Historical books?

I'm looking to buy Heart of Europe a history of the holy Roman Empire.

I've got a few books on Augustus Caser, the war of the roses.

I'm looking to expand my knowledge of European history. I like to know about dynasties and individuals.

>>9580014

>>9574419
Not enough Marx desu.

>>9570095
>4.48 psychosis

I had to watch a friends's uni performance of this and it put me off for life.

>>9580097
>Hume is empirical
>Popper is anti logical positivism
wot

>>9581317
hume IS empirical mate

>>9573244
naked lunch my dude

>>9576052
all of these are plenty easy to read, i'm not even being elitist you've pretty much described the fundaments of the canon

>>9573130
>The Consumer
>Frisk
>Hogg
>Story Of The Eye
>Atrocity Exhibition
>Torture Garden

my melanin enriched friend

>>9578639
~14 I would say

charts are cancer.

the best thing about literature is the idiosyncratic ways in which you are led from book to book.

>books you must read
get fucked

>>9583137
go back to r/books friendo

>>9583202
cop-out

i haven't been breast-fed since i was a baby.

can you tie your own shoelaces?

>>9577835
Moby-Dick isn't hard at all. It's only tedious for people who don't find it interesting,

>>9570272
>Introduction to mathematical philosophy

What the fuck? Why?

>>9581317
Oh, I didn't see it was analytic philosophy

>>9576565
why would they read it if they weren't interested?

>>9571016
>Ulysses
>69 votes
>69

Teehee.

>>9571016

Can we stop memeing Lolita onto these charts please

>>9576052
i like the idea

these faglords will always be pedantic about whatever is put where tho

Does anyone have a Nietzsche chart?

>>9578722

>War and Peace
>implying tryhards would read a 1300+ book that wasn't written by J.K. Rowling

Is there a short novels chart?
Books around 100~200 pages, easy to carry around in public transportation with a sigle hand are really useful.
Not short story collections, i never really feel committed to those desu.

>>9587857
Use a kindle or a big smartphone.

>>9573502

>>9586845
I don't, but it's often recommended to start with The Portable Nietzsche, and then read Genealogy of Morals or The Gay Science.

>>9570105
>No Ligotti

>>9587804
Keyword is namedropped, not read

>>9581288
Do you prefer this one?

we've got alright leftists suggestions, but does anyone have something decent for the more libertarian side?

>>9590268
see>>9575781>>9578648

>>9578648
>Atlas Shrugged
into the trash it goes

>>9584040
No IQs below 130 allowed.

>>9574485
kek

>>9570140
>no necronomicon

Shiihihit taste m80, do you even worship the old ones

>>9577162
>Don Quixote that low

>>9590464
What's the history of the Tiger meme anyway?
Who found it? Why's it so good?

>>9574461
>rightfag
>calling anyone else an idiot

Is there a chart for children's literature floating around or would someone have to make one?

>>9570095

Yeah, this "Depressing /lit/" chart should be updated as well.

>>9573316

"The painted bird" and "Blind date" are truly disturbing novels as well.

>>9578042

Great work so far but the images seem a little off and that "no capital letter" font is horrible.

>>9571016
>Orlando isn't on the list
>no Junichiro Tanizaki
>no Ernst Juenger
/lit/ is officially shit.

>>9578787