/lit/ - Literature

>>9409005

At least provide people with the template...

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>>9409067
even though I love both GRRM and Tolkien, I have to agree with this - Especially after reading the Silmarillion.

The complexity of Tolkien's world is far superior.

>>9409005

nah

>>9409180
kek

>>9409180
>acting like you made it through that crap completely

Never been meme'd harder.

>>9409191
post-modern AF bro

>>9409005

Someone on here recommended this to me when I said I was new here. Expected some cool shit but it was just a complete meme fest with like philosophical boring stuff. I thought /lit/ read good books? Thank god for GRRM, Douglas Adams and Jon Scalzi, they may not be as deep as this Kafka guy or whatever but its atleast fun to read their books.

Is this the kind of boring shit you guys read in general?

fresh from the press

>>9409345
no you got trolled, we only read young adult and genre fiction here

>>9409370
It still hurts

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>>9409345
you should try out my diary desu

>>9409005
Read this shit last year of high school. Went in with the same expectations, had the same reaction when I finished it. Good shit.

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>>9409179
damn, I was thinking exactly the same right now

Are you me from future or something?

>>9409191
really makes you think

>>9409522
I'm the spic version of you who's writing a short story about a shitty writer who ascribes his failure to the success of this kind of literature.

>>9409688
wait, I am argie...

you are me and we are Borges?

>>9409447
you recommend it?

>>9409709
I live in La Plata. I am Bioy though

>>9409759
well, I am from Caseros. I am Sabato.

Let's stop this before it end like some gay thing

>>9409129
You know what they say - the best meme pictures are the ones that have half an essay in them.

>>9409773
I'm a woman

>>9409777
I'm not

>>9409778
Wait what

>>9409777
get out

>>9409777
too gay then

>>9409785

?

>>9409260
good one

>>9409818
Thanks

>>9409500
The best things stay the best things no matter how old they are. Bros truly are the best of all things.

please does anyone have the one about my struggle with the cleaning

>>9409067
Add some tax policy to the middle box, and it's golden.

>>9409778
Top kek

>>9409005
I don't usually judge the book by its cover but a good cover art plenty of times made me want to read the book and this one is top notch.

>>9409091
I don't get it

>>9409058
nice one
>>9409065
I mean, who really expects LotF to be a happy novel at this point?
>>9409179
Ok, I feel no need to read it anymore now

>>9409260
I mean...he still wanted to go to work, right? He was all eager, taking his suitcase and everything. It's not so much Bukowski's lack of motivation as it's just that the world itself beats back, even if the will is there.

>>9409447
So it's basically the Ecclesiastes?

>>9409345
See you feel that way because you didn't start with the Greeks, whoever gave you that recommendation was a pseud.

>>9409216
t. embryo

>>9409260
This is perfect

>>9410363
The whole point I got from the book was that he, due to being forced by society and his parents to be "productive", was secretly depressed the whole time and never felt any self worth or self actualization. The little bit of self esteem he has comes from him being able to earn money for his family even if he hates his job. Add to this that he is treated like crap by his family from the very start (for example his parents testing on him what food is still edible), being physical ill (the itchy spots on his exoskelleton) and being sexually frustrated and longing for human contact (the picture of the woman he has on his wall). Even if Gregor isnt conciously aware of this or even in actively in denial he is subconciously feeling terrible because of this and the book itself tells us these things subtely. One day Gregor breaks under this pressure and is no longer able to function, if he really turns into an insect is left vague intentionally. Keep in mind that the original german word for him is "Ungeziefer" which tanslates to "vermin" more than it does to bug or insect or whatever is used in the english version.

>>9410566
Thanks, I appreciate this a lot more than you might think. I got the idea with the fly from me being a kid and reading an ad about a local play of the metamorphisis where more or less only the premise was explained probably because people older than me were expected to know what it was roughly about. The imagery of a man turning into an insect stuck with me.

>>9410702
>if he really turns into an insect is left vague intentionally.
No, he does, the reaction of others pretty much confirms it. But it's a metaphor of course.
But yes, I think you may be onto something.
I thought it was simply a metaphor for the absurdity of the world but your interpretation is more specific and interesting.

>>9409811
hu?

>>9410720
wat

>>9409370
On point

>>9410725
Who?

>>9410707
I thought the reaction of the others might come from him looking really awful due to his stress and him most likely not taking care of himself anymore. One thing that bugged me about him possibly still being a human is the apple scene which might not be impossible due to brittle skin or something, Im no expert, but I would find it a lot less unsettling if he would be a bug. Its a metaphor either way though. On a side note I once read that that the sort of bug he is descripted as in the book would be able to fly (pic not related). Its kind of sad to imagine that he was able to escape the whole time but did not chose to do so or wasnt aware of it being a possibility. Also works pretty well as a metaphor I think. Since the only contact he has is his family and his work and he gets his self worth from providing for his family he doesnt acknowledge just running away and having a fresh start as an option even when his family leaves him to die.

>>9410941
Switch it around for my experience.

>>9409487
I don't think a novel has ever given me quite the same level of feels.

>Cry, the beloved country, for the unborn child that is the inheritor of our fear. Let him not love the earth too deeply. Let him not laugh too gladly when the water runs through his fingers, nor stand too silent when the setting sun makes red the veld with fire. Let him not be too moved when the birds of his land are singing, nor give too much of his heart to a mountain or a valley. For fear will rob him of all if he gives too much.

Plus this cunt's writing is next level.

>>9410085
Yeah do it m8. CTBC is definitely in my top 5 novels ever. And yeah some of those vintage Penguin covers are super good. The ones for The Trial and Faulkner's novels are nice.

>>9409777

pls move to Washington DC

>>9409774
thnx

Is this really the best Africa has to offer?

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>>9411141
This one is good.

>>9409129
The writing in that quote makes me despise this book. It's literally saturated to the utmost possible level with vapid, pseudo-intellectual and blindingly foggy language.

>>9411137
what

>>9409808
ftfy

>>9411116
>Is this really the best Africa has to offer?

NO NIGGA.

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>>9411137
I've never read this but British people say corn referring to wheat, so a British person probably translated it. Corn is from the Americas.

>>9409005
OC here

>>9409047
Lost like fuck

>>9411157
t. brainlet who is probably still steeped in cold scientism

>>9410453
Topkek

>>9411137
I'm absolutely laughing my ass off at the absurdity of this image. Anyone with even the faintest knowledge of history would know that the "corn" that Caesar speaks of in Commentaries On The Gallic War is not the corn that we in the west are familiar with, but is rather a poor translation for the word "grain" which in Latin is "Frumentum"

Myself and many others who have read the commentaries would know what you're trying to refer to with your image but it's wrong. Unless of course you were already aware of this and you are posting this ironically. In which case I commend you for your post but it's still blatantly wrong. I would have gone with a collage of images of wheat instead.

7/10

>>9411141
Now that's good

>>9411157
>>9411280
scientism can be cool (cf. Quine) but that poster is retarded, that's not even very elevated or obscure language

>>9409110
Would you recommend the Silmarillion? I've had it sitting on my shelf, collecting dust since 10th grade (5 years). I've mead most of Tolkien's other works, save for the children of Hurin (pardon my spelling), and enjoyed them back then.

>>9411336
Is this part of the J e s t ?

Says a lot that this board doesn't sperg the fuck out if multiple images are used, unlike /v/

>>9411480
The Silmarillion is beautiful.

>>9411480
Easily Tolkien's best work

>>9411689
I wouldn't go that far but it's definitely better than the other stuff of his that I've read.

>>9411166
check'd

>>9409345
You better be pretending to be retarded. Do you at least like Orwell and Huxley?

>>9411840
Huxley didn't write too well. Generic prose.

>>9411480
the Silmarillion is literally the best Tolkien, even if incomplete. there's an entire world you barely glance at in LOTR

>>9411157
It's really not that confusing. The quote says that instead of a strict hierarchy of predator and prey in the food system, a more accurate representation would be an interconnected flat network. The prey relies on the predator just as the latter relies on the former.

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>>9411336
I hate this fucking pasta, the corn he refers to is a metaphor you fucking retard. Julius Caesar was using the corn as an image of sociopolitical change against the backdrop of the procession of time, for the Gallic tribes, his army, and Roman society at large. An army marches on its stomach, just as a besieged city will waste its food stores away. The corn keeps growing, and the army keeps marching, and the walls keep coming down. The Gallic tribes would fight together and against each other as the seasons changed, just like political factions in Rome. Caesar was able to comment on this by using the universal truth of this important-for-war commodity as the idealized image of constancy in an ever changing world. Its a literary masterpiece.

Does anyone have one of Yuval's Sapiens that has Stirner in "what I got"? I really need it.

>>9411336
This is actually a misconception. He was referring to old-world corn, which went extinct after a massive crop failure c. 200 CE. It was very similar in appearance to new-world corn.

>>9409803
kek

>>9410752
say what now?

>>9410762
Where would be fly from? He barely fits through the door, no way he can fit through a window.

>>9412325
going to have to read it now

>>9411157
What? It's very simple language.

>>9411137
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>>9412072
kek. the old jokes are the best!

>>9411160
>being new

>>9412325
nice

>>9412348
would recommend

>>9409058
Conrad somewhat acknowledges the mistreatment of native Africans by European settlers

>le white apologist, Joseph (Stalin?) Conrad is (le)iterally a SJW tumblarina. DAE Evola, feminism is dumb, MGTOW, Hitler was le misunderstood genius?

>>9410104
so is this supernatural or what?

>>9409155
>>9411141
great one
>>9412705
HAHAHAHA

>>9412705
genuinely lol'd at this

>>9410941

>>9409744
Accurate

>>9413015

best itt

>>9413015
my new favorite

>>9411051
intradasting. I kind of wrote it off as didactic writing but this thread will make me give it a go

>>9413015
damn, this is good

>>9411465
elaborate

>>9412328
That's what he thought too I guess

>>9412440
>getting angry in a joke thread
How lefty of you lol

OC

>>9413015
Gold shit anon

Anyone got the one for A Canticle for Leibowitz?

>>9409179
fucking hell, I thought it was just me

so many people praise that shitty book here

>>9409777
Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.

>mfw thinking of you hurting

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>>9413723
accurate, but could use some Goethe

>>9413487
Arlt wrote badly, not because of the colloquialism of his lexicon and speech formulas; but because his lack of mastery of verb tenses and grammar, and his irregularity regarding literary devices.

>>9413533
I'm not mad, you fucking white trash shitlord cis-male scumbag.

>>9409091
i dont get it

>>9409500
what i got should be a family tree

>>9410453
what you expected is really retarded anon. because thats the point. caracter is not questioning things

>>9413716
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>>9411480
Damn dude, go with both. Children of Hurin is brilliant. And Silmarillion is a bit fractured masterpiece.

>>9413487

Alrt never had a formal education, and he basically learned how to read by himself, so his use of the language was pretty poor.

Still, Los Lanzallamas is one of my favourite works of fiction.

>>9409179
THIS
finishing the book. Turned out to be away bellow my expectations

>>9413461
So.. you recommend it?

>>9415322
Ay, I wasn't alone after all

>>9415473
wtf

Requesting the one about The Republic. All I remember is socrates calling glaucon a stupid faggot or something like that

>>9415335
Damn yeah

>>9415501
Ignatius J. Reilly is the incarnation of /lit/.

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>>9415634
The "what I got" looks more appealing than the expected, tee bee aitch

>>9415651
Should have included an epilogue.

>>9410536
man if this ain't spot on, I don't know what is

>>9415651
heard about this book. it any good?

>>9411480
Faenor did literally nothing wrong.

>>9415534
nvm I found it

>>9415642
Evola was no slouch.

>>9409389
Better than expected

>>9409179
Kek. This is so true.

I can't make images on my phone really but I'd like
>infinite jest
>Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy
>tennis, tennis, tennis, and DARE logo

>>9412966
>Please move over
Damn I have to read this again.

>>9411157
Youre literally a brainlet if that seemed pseudo-intellectual to you. I know the word literally is overused, but in this case i meme you not you are literally retarded if you read that quote and think its unclear.

>>9413451
I just watched Apocalypse now last night. It's such a good film.

>>9410941
fuck this is the damn truth

>>9415380
This looks pretty good. Does anyone recommend? I mean, just look at that cover!

>>9415752

Maybe you should use a computer to post instead of a phone did you ever think of that you filthy millennial

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>>9409777
dejame ser el mangieri de tu mumi wacha

>>9409709
>>9409759
me los cojo a los dos y a sus viejas
salu2

>>9412325
kek, it's still a good book

oc

>>9416158

Should be considered literature if not already.

>>9416228
Delete this

>>9409777
LONDON
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>>9412030
>The prey relies on the predator just as the latter relies on the former.

Sounds like pseudoscience.

>>9416479
>what is population density

I don't think 'rely' is the best term though.

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>>9412325
how fucking hard is it to crop your goddamn images shit

>>9411174
They/we don't. 'Corn' is any type of grain, not just corn (maize) or wheat.

>>9415478
Those maps are really useful though, especially when he gets to the Persian invasions.

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>>9416622
Poor old Alan Moore. Thought he was getting the rights back once it fell out of print, only to find DC had screwed him and they're never letting it out of print.

>>9414249
sounds good, is it?

>>9416953
I almost vomited at the killing part.
The more Japanese literature I read,the less I understand it. This is true in general, when it comes to my understanding of the Japanese.

>>9409179
More like the alchemist is a cheap copy of siddhartha.

>>9409180
Accurate. Also, it is what makes the book charming.

>>9409777
BUENOS AIRES
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>>9415501
Same here kek

>>9409110
>The complexity of Tolkien's world is far superior.
that's hilarious, since asoiaf is based on real life historical events.

>>9409777
D Ü S S E L D O R F
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>>9416199
Is it good?

>>9409155
holy mother of kek underrated post, nice one anon

>>9409777

I'm just here to dog pile.

>>9415641

Couldn't bring myself finish that tome of nostalgia-wank and dogshit. Very accurate.

>>9409180
Anon, be honest here. Is it reallly that bad?

>>9416082
jaja salu2

>>9415345
That book is for hippies with money and a lot of tattoos that have that want to travel around latinamerica in kombi but goes to london every year. Cortazar hated Hesse too. You're not alone, girl (male).

>>9415634
why does anyone entertain him? is it just edge teenagers?

>>9409777
BURNLEY
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>>9411116
Put a yam in the "what I got" and it's accurate

>>9417164
Both are iterations of the same core disgusting kitsch shit.

>>9409777
I AM NOT REALLY A WOMAN

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>>9417477
Did you listen to the letter-tape he sent to Ricardo Bada?

>>9415791
>h-how dare you disagree with m-me!
>>>/reddit/

>>9409005

This joke is too easy not to make

>>9417229
So was fucking Lord of the Rings.

>>9409370
Is TPK better than IJ?

>>9417446
I made the image and it's very true but I love the book. You should read it

>>9417229
ASOIAF manages to be even more boring than the historical events it's based on.

>>9417905
Middle Earth isn't real, anon

>>9418217
Perfect. I read it a couple of months ago and it was fantastic, exactly like your described. Democracy is truly a horrendous system, and since society has been democratized for decades, the fallacy of "My ignorance is as important as your knowledge" fits more than ever.

>>9418303
Westeros is also not real.

>>9413034
this is good

>>9412705
Don't get it

>>9418412
Think about all those times the characters elongated a certain part of their anatomy

No wait

>>9415641
who would even consider reading a book with that title?

>>9409180
Pessoa is a poet. Read his poetry

>>9410686
War is only on something like 1/4 of it. Finish the damn book fgt

>>9417229
I actually hope you're baiting. This hurt to read.

>>9413034

>the expected and got are switched
>thats the joke?
>stoner was still great though
>even if there was no bud

>>9417830
Yes, but I read it in diario de andres fava first and I felt more close to that guy after that.

>>9419485
I've always liked that about him, like Bolaño thrashing different people.

>>9412325
kek
Elliott Rodgers here en la estancia.

Not a bad book, however.

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>>9414289
I guess he was expecting a space opera but got a soap opera.

>>9417899
It was the 100 times it's been made on /lit/.

>>9409180
Hey, is that crying tomb angel from a cemetery in Rome? I think I saw it.

>>9411122
>sibelius
>one of these things is not like the others

>>9417272

It's amazing. My all time favorite fiction novel.

>>9411116
>not filling the What I Got with yams

>>9417872

Interesting...

>>9418303
Cædmon's hymn, which is the oldest extant poem in English, describes the domain of men as "Middle Earth" (middingard), as opposed to heaven. Tolkien was an Old English scholar.

>>9416479
bitch do you even attractors?

>>9417849
>directing people to reddit
>>>/out/

>>9411840
>Orwell
please be joking

>>9419879
>Being this new
You have to go back.

>>9409345
>Die Verwandlung
>Mr. Verwandlung dies at the... "hands" of a monstrous cockroach
I wish there were Germans here; the autism would be delicious.

Anyway, Kafka was smiles af, just look at that original photograph.

>tfw you will never trigger a philosophical giant into shitposting about you for pages

OC

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>>9415473

i appreciated these even if no one else did

Had to read this for a class; far exceeded my expectations.

Here's some OC fresh of the presses.

>>9411195
Underrated

>>9422799
I am continually amazed by the popular perception of this book, because my dad put me to sleep every night reading it to me.

>>9409777
tfw noone has commented on these sick trips

>>9409389
>Guy Debord
>picture of Lenin
m8...

>>9409777
i honestly dont care one way or another but the sight of a post having millions of replies is always funny to me

>>9417872
THIS! hah!

>>9418275
What exactly are the historical events ASOIAF is based on? Because I really don't see it. Sure, each particular house seems to be based off a real world counterpart, but some of them didn't even exist in the same century.

>>9424572
The War of the Roses, mainly

>>9415335
Fucking twisted

fresh oc

>>9419126
I read it all. Got that and the next book that cunt wrote on sale. I didn't know anything about them before I read them besides that people like them. I should have been more careful. Now he has some of my money. I wish I could take it all back.

>>9425722
I fucked up

>>9409031
This sums up lit pretty well

>>9412705
hehehehe

>>9411137
>>9411336

Good to see that this golden meme is still alive

>>9421984
Damn

>>9409777
I writhe in pleasure knowing that some poor sap in their basement might include me in the screencap.

>>9425132
>reads his own suicide
are you one of those "everything is a text" derridalets?

But also what I expected.

>>9409110
>tried reading LOTR (+ Hobbit) when I was younger
>couldn't even get halfway through the second book
>no idea what happened

The no action parts bored me to bits, so I skipped ahead to the action, but of course had no idea what was going on. Should I try them again?

>>9415719
Really good pic, too bad sophist is a useless hitpiece.

>>9409777
wow

>>9422043
gotchu senpai

>>9409005
Pretty misleading title but found it very visual
with its presentation and prose

10/10 would recommend

>>9409500
Not inaccurate.

>>9409777
BOO TO A GOOSE
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>>9409500
>have to pay for Homer's works
>even for an ebook
Why

>>9426628
Don't reply to me ever again.

>>9426558
Good one but I would put Charlie Day's mail freakout in the What I Got section too since that is the majority of the book.

>>9426731
Baited for this exact response.

>>9426749
ok but did u read the post tho? baka fahm

Does anyone have the malazan one?

>>9409179
Holy Mother of Keks

>>9413015
wew

>>9426715
This book is obviously about communism

>>9412705
>Draco/Harry

what

>>9426487
my suicide is the only text.