/lit/ - Literature

i read superior genres.
well, actually, i don't read genres at all, i just read superior books.

>>935822
but are those superior books, sci-fi?

I read SF, but not exclusively.

genre literature is for teens.

>>935840
u mad cuz u don't read sci-fi

>>935819
No genre is better than any other. Works of high quality can be found everywhere, but 90% of everything is shit. Especially sci fi. Get over your inferiority complex.

I was once in a conversation with a guy who was badmouthing science fiction, and I said, "Typically when people start bashing some literary genre or another, they have no idea what they're talking about. They aren't well-read in the genre, and usually lack any fair basis for comparison."

He replied, "I don't know anyone who's well-read in every genre." I think he was setting me up to claim that I was.

Instead, I said, "You don't have to be well-read in every genre. You just ought to be well-read in the genres you're going to bash."

There's a really unfortunate thing that occurs with science fiction fans (and writers!). Somewhere along the line they get offended by the superior standing of literary fiction within academic and critical circles, and they feel as though they have to defend science fiction by attacking everything else.

Pretty small of you, OP.

>>935853
>No genre is better than any other.
lol, you must be a Liberal. Hint: your lunacy is bullshit.
>but 90% of everything is shit.
90% of sci-fi may be shit, but 100% of everything else IS shit.

Best scifi books are the ones that seem less like scifi.

>>935853
>90% of everything is shit. Especially sci fi.
>All genres are equal, but some are more equal than others

Thanks, Napoleon.

OP, that's OK, eventually you will grow up.

>>935819

I read sci fi almost exclusively but I don't bash other genres.

What are you going to do now?

>>935890
kill you
>>935877
haha nope
>>935887
not everyone is a delusional fool, you go back to reading your faggot fancy novels about romance and leave the big boys to talk about real books

I like scifi, fantasy, and a few scattered other genres I can't be bothered to classify. Sci-fi is the majority though.
Something about being set in the future with the focus on technology just makes the story more interesting.

>>935912
sci-fi is about the mastery over nature and life, and the triumph of our will to succeed.

last week, at a conference: admit i'd written some novels.

others (interested) o rly? what about?

me: (ashamed) .. SF...

they: (immediately pretend interest in anything other than me for the rest of the week)

The only sci-fi I've read is Ender's game.

>>935915
they are just jealous
>>935917
thats shitty sci-fi

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>>935914
I've yet to read anything with a heavy focus on nanotech, authors seem to be afraid of it because it's so powerful.

Any recommendations?

>>935920
The first book was decent enough, although it's pretty obviously aimed at a younger audience.

The books that followed were utter shit.

>>935929
ya i kinda liked the bean/ender thing where it's fighting aliens and blowing up planets n shit.

But then it got into politics and im like ehh no thanks.

>>935927
I dunno anything in particular. I read this one series where it's like a fantasy series, and then at the end it turns out all the magic is just a product of nano-machines which was kinda cool.

Fuck yeah I read sci-fi . . . why wouldn't you? Shit is just fun.

Yeah, I have always been a fan of Sci Fi. Larry Niven is a God. Footfall was win. The Ringworld series was win. All of it is win.

>>935927
Metal gear

>>935945
Sounds interesting, what's it called?

>>935975
I don't really remember.

>>935927
pirates of the universe is about a disney park in space that went horribly wrong.
there's also some interdimenional bubble hunting.

Sci-Fi is straight up aspie lit. I like the concept quite a bit, but I have yet to find an author who actually can write a meaningful story, most of these guys put the science center stage. That is never enough, a piece of literature is more than its setting.

>>935974
Best be trolling

The Metal Gear games are, without a doubt, amazing (the plot I think is one of the best I've experienced). But if you're referring to the novels based on the games, they're... well, they're what happens when a game is novelised. I need say no more.

>>936008
meet >>935853

>>935875
>lol, you must be a Liberal

Idiot.

>>935994
I think I already have this somewhere, thanks.

I read a few Sci-Fi-novels as child but since I have grown up I only read one "Starhsip Troopers". I'm more into the classics now or hipsterstuff like novels by Murakami and John dies at the end.

>>936082
Have you read The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect? I thought it was rather good, and it's one of those edgy online novels like JDATE.

I was extremely skeptical about Sci-Fi until I read this.

>>936015
Nah, not really. My brief foray into the sci-fi world consisted of authors widely regarded to be the best at what they do. Alaistair reynolds, Asimov, and Heinlein are continuously praised, both on this board and elsewhere. I don't think its an invalid assumption to make that, if better sci-fi exists, it is not exceedingly better. So I tried, and was disappointed. These authors are just not in the same league as literary fiction writers.

>>936166
In your opinion. It's just preference.

>>936287

>>936013
Book of the New Sun is the only SF novel that transcends the genre, for me, imo. And that's coming from a guy who loves SF.

>>936155
Hell yeah! Best Sci-Fi book ever.

>>935840
seconding this. but there are some decent sci-fi books out there.

>>935819
>Are you part of the sci-fi reading master race, or do you read inferior genre's ?
>or do you read inferior genre's
>inferior genre's
>genre's
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Welcome to /lit/, where your opinion on literature is not taken seriously if you cannot work grammar correctly.

>>936627
proper grammar is for losers

I read anything that I find interesting no matter the genre. I tend toward sci-fi and fantasy but all in all I just love a good story.

>>936627

>>939087

Who stole my card?

OP here i have to admit i read fantasy sometimes too, mostly the sword n sorcery kind of stuff. Swashbuckling, that sort of thing. But fantasy is basically sci-fi anyways.

>Star Trek books

>Star wars books

>Warhammer shit

>Shadowrun shit

>Ender's Game series

>Hammer's Slammers series

>Old Man's War series

>Hammer's Slammers series

>Whatever John Ringo or David Weber crapped out for Baen this month

>Other overrated shit

>Superior genre

Fuck, I lol'd

>>939093
I had to mention Hammer's Slammers twice because of how total shit it was.

>>939091
I have a bunch of these. They are so much fun to use.

>>939093
star trek and star wars is awful.
wh40k is p. fking awesome.
Hammers Slammers is great stuff
I've read everything in the baen free library and every single book is good quality.

>>936627

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>>939114
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>>939128

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Rofl.

>>939162
You lost me

>>935927

Nano

Reads more like an action movie than any other scifi book I've read. The technology seems almost too fantastic part way through the book. Touches slightly on AI, and transhumanism. The settings seemed believable. The medium the protagonist used to deploy the nanites seemed silly in my opinion.

>>935927

Nano

Heavy focus on nanotech and it's potential capabilities. Reads more like an action movie than any other scifi book I've read. The technology seems almost too fantastic part way through the book. Touches slightly on AI, and transhumanism. The settings seemed believable. The medium the protagonist used to deploy the nanites seemed silly in my opinion. I loved the book though, and thought it would make a good summer blockbuster movie.

it seems as if the best scifi died with asimov

I'm actually part of the Godlike Sci-Phi race.

Kneel, plebeian.

I read either sci-fi or fantasy, depending on my mood. But lately I have been reading a lot of military sci-fi such as the classic Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein and the Confederation Valor series by Tanya Huff.

>>939250
Strong words from another prole. You can count yourself among the Gods when you read from the Psy-Phi canon.

>>936008
I think the major appeal to most scifi fans is the technology. With that being said, check out ghost in the shell.

>>939297
having said that check out this overrated piece of shit anime

>see scifi thread on lit
>no mention of dick or gibson
>remember it is summertime

>>939353
see
>>927475

>>939357
>visit other thread
>read that OP did not like neuromancer
>OP is a faggot

Have read every single Ben Bova and Arthur C Clarke book. So I suppose I fall in this category

>>939370
What the fuck!? Why does /lit/ not have basic reading comprehension? I said I liked the book.

>I liked it, but it wasn't really what I was looking for.


Goddammit. Yes, I mad.

>>939400
you liked the themes from ghost in the shell and matrix, but the book neuromancer 'wasn't really what I was looking for'. if you are so concerned with the superficiality of theme then you are a faggot

I do read sci-fi. I enjoy it so I don't see any reason not to.

>>939457
More importantly, you should read sci-fi because sci-fi is the best genre.

garret you cant read

I'm catching onto sci-fi like a muthafucka. Just finished Stranger in a Strange Land. I'm working on The Children of Men right now, and I'm going to be readin' The Man in the High Castle when my library ships it in from some other library.

>>935840
>genre literature is for teens.
It always amuses me when people think that there is such as thing as non-genre literature, or film.

Genres are simply categories, and subjective ones at that. Everything can be described as belonging in a category, and every story can be described as fitting one or more genres.

No matter how many people insist that there is such a thing as "genre fiction" which is somehow distinct from serious literature which is unbound by such petty concepts as genre, or how they organize themselves to take each other seriously, they will still be a bunch of pretentious jackasses.

>>936627
I thought " its' " meant belonging to it.

>>940208
I dunno, maybe i put an extra ' in there. But who cares.

>>940167

In that case, could you help me classify something? What genre would you put 2666 in? Bildungsroman, noir, police procedural, parody, romance, historical?

>>940247
I'd classify it as "non-sci-fi"

>>935914
Actually, sci-fi is a type of fiction called speculative fiction. In other words, it is an expression of what the author thinks MIGHT happen, usually in terms of technological or scientific progress, in the near to distant future.

>>940510
yes, the realization of our dreams. Of struggling hard and winning.
Sci-fi is the epitome of literature.

>>940510
Science fiction must be understood on three distinct levels: on the level of genre, on the critical level, and on the cultural level. It is simultaneously a cultural entity, a collection of tropes and a fandom; a subfield of literature defined by speculation and unreality; and a genre defined in terms of marketing and sales.

>>940655
Well said, Anon.

Scientific Romance is a fantastic genre, and my personal favourite. However I also believe that other genres have merit.

>>940711
>he likes romance and thinks anyone else is going to take his opinions as valid

>>940728
>implying Romance is the same as Scientific Romance

>implying Romance doesn't have two distinct definitions

>>940737
I don't care what shit you add to it, romance is garbage.
Leftist feminist bullshit.

>>940741
Scientific romance often has zero women or romantic subplots involved.

It's romantic in the sense that it's about the romantic dream of building cool new gadgets that do awesome stuff.

>>940741
retard

>>940743
oh, you mean like space opera? I dunno why you had to confuse me with the romance tag.

>>940749
Scientific romance is what Edgar Rice Burroughs', Jules Vernes' and H.G. Wells' writing would have been classified as back in their day.

>>940749
Lurk moar.