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9314837 No.9314837 [Reply] [Original]

Convince me that the self is real or this lamb dies.

>> No.9314841

>>9314837
You think, therefore you are.

Literally that simple.

>> No.9314844

>>9314837

Cogito ergo OP is a faggot.

>> No.9314847

Self is evident for I percieve myself as such. Therefore the evidence of the opposite is on you, lamb-killer

>> No.9314850

>>9314841
But you don't know for sure that it's the self that is thinking.

>> No.9314856

>>9314841
>>9314844
Cogito-ergo-sum proves existence, not self, faggots

>> No.9314857

>>9314837
it is real

>> No.9314864

>>9314850
If you're able to conjure up a concept of "self" to begin with in your predefined parameters and static definition of what the self might be, and you are capable of applying "self" to your own being, then, regardless of how abstract your existence is, there is still a "self" able to identify its own existence.

Therefore, there is a self if it is capable of thinking.

>> No.9314869

>>9314864
(not true btw)

>> No.9314884

>>9314869
Nice counter-argument.

>> No.9314887
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9314887

>>9314864
>open MS Word
>type "I think therefore I am"
>save the file
>the proposition, which was induced by me, now exists as it's own entity, and can be conjured separately and at random by a souless, unthinking machine
Love it when modern technology and progress B philosophers of the old TFO

>> No.9314892

>>9314884
I don't want to reply to you seriously, encourage you to post more, and further lower the quality of the thread.

>> No.9314908

>>9314887
>graffiti on a building wall "I think therefore I am"
>BTFO my argument

You're basically arguing that the self can't exist because an inanimate thing can be produced, which is . . . interesting?

But you're a frogposter so I guess this is just bait.

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9314909

Belief is the lifeblood of lies. Truth requires none.

>> No.9314914

>>9314892
A convenient excuse to use in order to justify not posting your own thoughts or countering any argument.

Well done, pseud!

>> No.9314926

>>9314914
Says the genius who claims that because a concept maps onto reality in a useful way that the concept represents an existing thing lmao

>> No.9314944

who is in the right, my brain or me?

>> No.9314953

>>9314856

Proves the existence of the self famalamadingdong.

Alternatively, try Kant's first Critique and Fichte.

>> No.9314958

>>9314850

Except it is, per definition.

If you disagree, go on ahead and provide a definition of self.

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9314961

/thread

>> No.9315303

>>9314961
kek I love this