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What philosophers have you read, /lit/?

>> No.9210413
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>> No.9210436

>>9210413
wheres Maximum Stirner?

>> No.9210444

>not having Thoreau checked off
That's the first thing you read. Walden is essential litcore

Also,
>Pythagoras
>no Archimedes, Eudoxus, Eutocius, Apollonius, or Euclid!

No Euclid? Seriously?

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>>9210406
You are like little babby

Watch this

>> No.9210458

>>9210451
>NOT HAVING THOREAU CHECKED OFF

>> No.9210462

>>9210458
Thor-who?

>> No.9210468

>>9210406
Deleuze.

>> No.9210472

Most of Pythagoras' work is lost, so if you check off Pythagoras you're basically saying you've read Elements, where a lot of his teachings find home with Eudoxus.

Apollonius did the same thing with other mathematicians, just parroted their findings in his work. The first couple books of On Conics aren't even Apollonius at all, they are other people.

I just know this shit because I read the fucking texts. Primary Greek mathematical texts man. Dry stuff, very challenging and dense. But rewarding.

>> No.9210475

>not having Nietzsche checked

That's babbytier /lit/, what the hell OP?

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>>9210406
>Freud
>philosopher

>> No.9210491

>>9210406
Where's Sam Harris?

>> No.9210497

>>9210489
Occult writers aren't Philosophers mate

>> No.9210498

>>9210475
I've read the birth of tragedy and other bits and pieces, but i'm studying philosophy chronologically for the most part. Currently studying Christianity and theology, and I want to read Kant and Schop before I dive into Nietzsche

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>>9210497
Try actually reading him first.

>> No.9210510

>>9210503
Sorry haven't finished my background reading on Aleister Crowley yet

>> No.9210515

>>9210406
Which two of that list would make the best comedy duo?

>> No.9210517

>>9210515
Jesus & Nietzsche

>> No.9210519

>>9210515
Diogenes and Schopenhauer

>> No.9210522

>>9210515
Machiavelli and Singer

>> No.9210523

>>9210515
I'm gonna take a risk here and say Hobbes and Foucault

>> No.9210527

>Jesus was a philosopher
>Jesus existing

Nice joke, OP

>> No.9210532

>>9210510
At least you admit that you haven't read him, which was my point. Case closed.

>> No.9210533

>>9210527
nigga turned water to wine, if that isn't advanced natural philosophy then get outta my face

>> No.9210536

>>9210527
There are loads on this list that didn't exist desu

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sorry lit im still starting with the greeks

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>>9210539
>hasn't even read aristotle

>> No.9210552

>>9210413
Where is Jeremy Bentham?

>> No.9210607

>>9210552
Where is Lacan?

>> No.9211110

>>9210451

If real, then very good

Read some Hedi

>> No.9211124

>>9211110
I will, I'm actually in the middle of Kant in detail and intend to go through Husserl first

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>>9210406

Outline = read excerpts or secondhand

Check = Read

Double Check = Read and worked with significantly

Also this needs the Chinese lol

>> No.9211146

>>9211124

Good on you, Kant and Husserl are really ideal for proceeding forward.

>> No.9211151

>>9210523
>not Calvin and Hobbes
Or Luther and Hobbes maybe..

>> No.9211157

>>9210436
he's not important and no academic takes his ideas seriously

>> No.9211171

>>9210436
>>9211157

True in my experience

>> No.9211186

>>9210515
Hume and Russell

>> No.9211189

>>9210515

Frege and Husserl

Leibniz and Spinoza

Or, ofc.

Socrates and Hemlock

>> No.9211238

>>9210527
>the rapid expanse of Christianity
>extra-biblical sources
>not pointing to a historical Jesus
embarrassing tbqhwy

>> No.9211258

>>9210406
>heraclitus but no parmenides
>zeno with the romans
>darwin hayek and freud

really makes you think

>> No.9211411

Voltaire?
Camus?

>> No.9211428

>>9211151
Neither Calvin nor Luther are on the chart. Anyway, I think Hobbes' stodgy rationalism would contrast well with Foucault's radical opposition to any form of systemization. At the same time, they share a common disdain for and pessimism towards mankind as a whole.

>> No.9211454

Emerson, Fichte, Bachelard...

>> No.9211630

What quantity of material would you feel you needed to read to feel like you have legitimately "read" anyone on this list?

How many times would you need to re-read that body of work?

Does /lit/ even reread things?

>> No.9211640

>>9210406

Only Derrida

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>>9211157
>>9211171
To me that shows how correct he was. Academics are content to parrot Marx's criticism despite the fact it is literalist, vapid, and vaults to the heights of autism.

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>>9210406
Add Gramsci.

>> No.9212186

It requires Anaxagoras
Also: it requires Zygmunt Bauman

>> No.9212287

>>9210406
Darwin is not a philosopher. Stop being Euphoric.

>> No.9212306

>>9210406
I thought there wasn't anything written by the pre-socratic philosophers?

>> No.9212315

>>9210472
How so? I fucking hate maths, is there any other reason I should read it?

>> No.9212335

>>9212140
Stop forcing your marxist bullshit, pizza nigger.

>> No.9212337

>>9211411
Pleb

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only stirner

>> No.9212369

>>9210406
Someone please update and correct that stupid list already.

>> No.9212378

>>9210406
none. i have vague ideas on most and i come here to practice how to strategically crush people who have more knowledge than me. although in reality i'm guessing most are probably doing the same.

>> No.9212401

>>9210406
Where is Chomsky?

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>>9212401

>> No.9212800

>>9210406
what do you mean by ticking diogenes, socrates etc? how have you 'read' them? dialogues etc?

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Whete is Sam Harris?

>> No.9213405

>>9210515
Lenin and Plato

>> No.9213983

>>9210406
>>9210413
>>9210451
>>9210539
>>9211136
>>9212140
why are there no philosophers of color?

>> No.9213997

Plato, Aristotle, Marcus Aurelius, Nietzsche.

>> No.9213999

>>9213983
Jesus is there

>> No.9214005

>>9213997
>Marcus Aurelius

Who? I don't see him on the graph

>> No.9214021

>>9213983
Avicenna

>> No.9214035

>>9213999
jesus was white

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I really hate this chart.
>Thales, Heraclitus, Pythagoras, Diogens, Democritus, Zeno. What is? The party of fragments?
>Jesus? I'm going to buy a fedora!
>Avicenna, Why not Averroè?
>Petrarch? Why not Dante?
>Hobbes? Where is Calvin (and Luther)? And isn't Bacon a little girl?
>D'alambert and Diderot JesuisMontesquieu(andVoltaire)
>I wanna fug Simone
>WHERE IS CROCE?
>WHERE IS BENEDETTO CROCE?

>> No.9214414

I started reading philosophy almost 2 years ago and only read Hegel, Plato and the pre-socratics in this time.

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>>9210406
>socrates
>read
do you even lift bruh?

>> No.9215820

>>9210527
He definitely existed, the question is was he holy?

>> No.9216002

>>9212315
Logic.

>> No.9216021

>>9214035
>

>> No.9216131

>>9210406
>marx vs bakunin
>not marx vs stirner
come on, marx literally wrote a 200 page ad hominem on stirner

>> No.9216155

>>9210451
bullshit

>> No.9216172

>>9210451
>not reading Cicero
Literally a pleb

>> No.9216185 [DELETED] 

He definitely was holy, the question is was he the son of God?

>> No.9216205

>>9216155
Thats not particularly hard for someone who is a Phil major

>> No.9216206

>>9215820
He definitely was holy, the question is was he the son of God?

>> No.9216324

>>9216205
Yeah you're right if they haven't read the complete works of the author in question

>> No.9216360

>>9210406
Where's Voltaire? Did I miss him?

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>>9210406

>> No.9216522

>>9210406
I've read all Socrates and had many a torrential orgasm, but I really don't give a shit about Plato.

>> No.9216528

>>9210413
>Image not titled "fsjalsophers"

>> No.9217112

>>9210451
>Derrida without heidegger
wat

>> No.9217316

No Peterson?

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>> No.9217331

>>9210451
pure bullshit

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>>9217329
also Ghazali, Khoja Akhmet Yassawi, Rumi, Omar Khayyam, Sheyh Galib (he's more like a fantasy writer tho)... most eastern

>> No.9217343

>>9217329
also Ghazali, Khoja Akhmet Yassawi, Rumi, Omar Khayyam, Sheyh Galib (he's more like a fantasy writer tho)... mostly eastern

>> No.9218245

>>9210406
>no black woman philosopher
DROPPED

>> No.9218277

rather than make my own thread
Could someone post the google doc about how to into philosophy?

>> No.9218318

Why did you check off people like Thales, Socrates or Jesus when there's nothing written by them? Are you one of those shitters who think reading an article on Wikipedia about them is the same as reading them ?

>> No.9218368

>>9218277
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/pub

>> No.9218390

This chart doesn't have a philosopher I know of. WTF OP? This is why philosophy is dying.

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>>9210406
phil grad student reporting in
>red Xs indicate philosophers who didn't write anything

>> No.9218445

>>9218436
>>9218318
Regarding Thales, I assumed he had fragments in the Fragments of the Presocratics. I just checked and the only extant fragment is called "a late forgery." My bad.

>> No.9218459

>>9218436
Are you enjoying it?

>> No.9218476

>>9218459
Yeah, for the most part. It's really hard, though. Not a fan of standard contemporary analytic style philosophy, but there's enough variety to get around that. I don't really want to do anything else, so it'd take a lot to make me regret going to grad school for philosophy. Maybe if it was a worse school or if I had to pay for it. It's very nice to be paid to study philosophy, despite the onerous workload.

>> No.9218497

>>9218476
How did you manage to be paid?

>> No.9218504

>>9218476
Most good PhD programs will give you a stipend, presumably so you don't need to work on the side. They'll make you TA or teach eventually, though. Mine lets you just take classes for the first two years, though (I'm just wrapping up the second year).

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>>9210406
>claiming to have read Socrates or Diogenes
HUGE meme

>> No.9218538

>>9218504
So you are either a genius or a good rhetorician and probably from the US?

I'm a poor man who wants to study philosophy but I'm bad at unprepared speaking.

>> No.9218548

>>9218526
Ah damn, wasn't thinking w/r/t Jesus

Now I'm the meme

>> No.9218555

>>9218538
I'm not particularly good at speaking extemporaneously. I am very good at writing, though, which I assume is what got me into the program. From the US and going to school there.

>> No.9218567

>>9218555
Ok guy. Good luck with your phd.

>> No.9218692

>>9218555
Thanks, man.

>> No.9218728

>>9218368
thanks bud

>> No.9218922

>>9210515
Diogenes and Zizek

>> No.9219214

>>9218368
Thanks for this

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>>9210406
Love the chart. It's funny.

>> No.9219474

>>9212401
He's a linguist, not a philosopher.

>> No.9219488

What do you guys think of Robert S. Corrington and his Ecstatic Naturalism?

It's overly mystical for my tastes, but I find it interesting.

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