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Malfoy was a good guy because he was mean to that faggot Potter.

Who the fuck needs redeeming qualities?

Yeah, and why didn't the Eagles just fly Frodo to Mt. Doom?

Rowling's a biased bitch.

>>903788
That made me smile. How is he a faggot, lol?

>>903793

He's all "Oh look at me I'm the chosen one I'm here to fix everything but oh it's so hard and I'm so depressed because I know some people who died, boo hoo well guess I better go on adventures"

>>903794
Oh, goddamn you. Never again, not the books, not the fucking movies. And I tried so hard not to look for plotholes...

Most of the other houses were filled with one dimensional cardboard cut-outs. What the fuck is a hufflepuff for instance? also, I wish ravenclaw had been the protagonists, but I am a /lit/ after all.

>>903804
Hufflepuff is for honest and hard working folk, but they have a bad rep because people think that's where the lame kids go.

>>903794
I never got this objection, tbh

The Eagles fly to Mount Doom only after everything blows the fuck up, I always assumed that Sauron or the Nazgul or somebody would have seen them and killed their shit, up until the shit hit the fan

I don't know, in the first book they made pretty clear that the only difference between Gryffindor and Slytherin was choice. Like Hary could've easily been in either house, but he chose Gryffindor.

>>903802
>>903794

Well, he had the Nazgul flying around didn't he? I mean I'm sure if Frodo just flew right over on an eagle, Sauron would have some shit prepared just in case.

it all comes down to snape and slughorn, really

slughorn's more nootch to the snootch but snape was actually the one planned to kill voldemort. probably because he was the most powerful one of the bunch

>>903794
They are creatures of divinity and can't bear the crushing dark power of the ring.

Plus they would have gotten mauled by a typhoon of arrows the second they flew over the black gates.

This is well established.

>>903809

No that was just him choosing. Slytherin is all about personal greed, not necessarily in a bad way. Griffindor was all about glory.

>>903817
No it isn't. There is not a single good in-world reason why they couldn't have flown in. There's a truck load of excuses but nothing more.

>>903842
>No that was just him choosing.
...Which was exactly my point.

>>903848

>Have not read Simarillion

Lockhart is a bad guy?

>>903778
Like anon said, JKR was biased. Which is why for my own entertainment I sketch out fan fic which sets the record straight from the other three houses point of view.

There's no need to think about Slytherin in negative terms just because the main character from that house is totally engaged with the 'bad guys' due to family influence.

For what it is worth the Sorting Hat is a king troll since he makes people believe that he is making considered decisions whereas he's really just random.

Hermione and Ron in Gryfinndor? Please.

>>903813
Sauron didn't even have guards or fortifications at the entrance to Mount Doom. I'm not sure if he was capable of planning for eagles.

The most people in Slytherin are egoist and purebloods, so why should they fight? They are not in danger since they are pure blooded and so their egoism tells them not to fight. Nothing is wrong with not fighting when you are not in danger.

Let's stick to the truth, most of us wouldn't fight either, /lit/ is full of Ravenclaws which are desribed to go away in big numbers too. Only Gryffindors and Hufflepuffs fighted really in big numbers.

>>903861
Remember in Chamber of Secrets where he tried to obliviate Harry and Ron's memories so HE could claim credit for rescuing Ginny and closing the Chamber? Yeah.

But after it backfired he becomes pretty harmless. He was never really BAD, per se, just stupid.

>>903899
I don't think Lockhart was stupid. He just got screwed over because he didn't know Ron's wand was on the fritz. I actually think he was pretty cunning to get to where he was in life.

>>903899
Sure, he may have tried but he didn't get anywhere, did he?
He was never threatening to begin with and he was basically a comic relief character with a running schtict that he was in love with himself.

>>903868
Where should Ron go instead? He's natural lazy so not Hufflepuff, he's not smart either so Ravenclaw is no option aswell and he's is not smart enough to be a Slytherin. Lazy idiots go to Gryffindor, he belongs there perfectly.

long story short ... terry pratchett rules, that woman is an idiot.

>>903908
He may have failed with Harry and Ron, but he did obliviate the memories of other people; he wrote books about "his" adventures in defeating dark magic, which were actually just him finding people, interviewing them and erasing their memories. That's how he got the post of DADA teacher in the first place- people thought he had actually done these things himself.

But he isn't LOLVOLDY evil, if that's what your definition of evil in Harry Potter is.

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Because it's a black and white children's book.

Moral ambiguity would only confuse little children.

I sort of think that by book 7, Rowling wasn't even trying.

What's always bothered me is the insane amount of bias that sits around the houses. Where you're sorted defines the way people see you for the rest of your life.

If you get sorted Slytherin, you're pretty much viewed as a Nazi your entire life and have to live with scorn and stereotypes being propagated about you.
If you're a Hufflepuff, have fun spending your entire life trying to gain success against people who assume you're callow and easy to take advantage of.
If you're Ravenclaw, people will pretty much treat you like a walking encyclopedia and only really acknowledge or care about you if you can answer stupid questions and make things easy for idiots.
If you're Gryffindor, fuck you. You get all the attention and praise by default and will never have to struggle for anything in your life because the goddamn school and ministry favour you. Even if you're a shitty Gryffindor people will still love you because you're still *good at heart*.

>>904004
Someone screencap this for me or tell me how to!

>>904119
>Print screen button
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>>904133
My button has two functions, should I use shift as well or what?

Regulus Black redeemed himself a little. He wasn't a complete dick to Kreature and he was able to give Voldemort the finger before he died.

I like how JKR just didn't give a fuck about the last book.
So much shit that doesn't make sense in that book at all. Fucking Snape arguably the 2nd strongest wizard in the world at the time getting killed by the strongest wizard in the world with a fucked up wand that shouldn't of been able to do shit? the fuck?

He didn't even put up a fight, he just sat there and died. Fuck JKR seriously.

>>905213
I also like how harry trained harder for the tri wizard tournament than he did when he was fighting for his life.
Every time they were fucking laying around in their tent saying "im bored Ron what should we do" "IDK harry im bored too!" I RAGED SO HARD
FUCKING TRAIN FAGGOTS YOUR FIGHTING FOR YOUR LIFE.

shit author is shit

>>903999

This.

>>905228
correct answer is, "tell that rawlings to write the next fuckign chapter already. "

Rowling got a bit of bloodlust going by the end, killing off characters left, right and centre.

Sirius and Snape were the only god tier characters to die.

>>905261
And Tonks and Lupin.

Dumbledor had a friend who was a good Slytherine
but Snape was a BAMF, so wuteva

>I hate how their is no benign or redeeming factor to those in Slytherin house.

Welcome to Harry Potter, where all the antagonists are silly, one-dimensional caricatures of evil.

Shit like this always pisses me off. Writer creates a great setting with big potential but how she uses it is shit tier.

About the eagles in LotR. Obviously the biggest reason they couldn't have just flown in to Mt Doom is because Orcs actually like watch the borders of Mordor and would either shoot hat shit down or have a Nazgul tear it to pieces. However, I'm pretty sure in Fellowship (the book) theres a bit where Frodo specifically brings up having the eagles fly it to Mt Doom to Gandalf and Gandalf said the Eagles have decided the war doesn't concern them since its about saving man and have just said fuck it and won't help. Thats why its such a big deal when the Eagles show up, because they were playing Switzerland not but five minutes ago.

Bump for them eagles.

>>905341
>War doesn't concern them
>Sauron with his ring would cover the land in darkness and probably kill everything that the Eagles eat if not the Eagles themselves

Yeah, okay Tolkien.

>Orcs actually like watch the borders of Mordor and would either shoot hat shit down or have a Nazgul tear it to pieces.

The Nazgul didn't have their flying mounts in the first book and Mordor is surrounding by MOUNTAINS. The Eagles could just fly over - they don't have to pass through the Black Gate.

>>905585
The Nazgul did have the Fellbeasts in the first book they just didn't want to use them to alert the enemy they did have them.

Sauron had outposts and fortifications all around his realm watching for people trying to sneak in.

Sauron could would have detected the eagle with his all seeing eye and blasted them out of the sky.

READ THE BOOK.

>>905619
>Sauron could would have detected the eagle with his all seeing eye and blasted them out of the sky.
>blasted them out of the sky

>>905619
Even if they couldn't get them all the way to Mordor, they could have brought them a long fucking way without losing anyone or running into Golem.

Next question, why didn't Aragon make a bargain with the ghosts for two battles and wipe out everything in Mordor? He had all the chips, I would have kept them around.

>>905663
>good character
>using all the chips

Heh.

>>905663

>without losing anyone or running into Golem
>or running into Golem
>Golem

>>905710
Are you referring to Aragon as the "good character"? Like going back on his bargain by keeping the ghosts around would be worse than preventing the end of the world?

>>905746
I wouldn't want to run into this motherfucker.