/lit/ - Literature

>>9024603
normies

he didn't like it. he just said he likes it so you won't assume he was a lonely faggot with autism

most normies are low energy when it comes to idea type stuff so they get boring pretty quick but they're still there interrupting you from your reading and writing so it's better for them to just go
he's also big on friendship though which can be cool if you wanna go out in the boat or something like that

>>9024656
but muh ubermensch

>>9024656
This. If you read his correspondence he's desperate for friendship and love to the point of driving people away.

>>9024731
does "supreme gentleman" ring a bell for you?

He was a school shooter without a gun or school

>>9024738
i feel sorry for him. and all the people reaching out for companionship and in the same move shoo people away. humans are awefully defective

>>9024751
Well we suffer a lot, but as a species we're pretty effective.

>>9024649
/thread

most losers pretend to actually enjoy their solitude, it's basically a protection mechanism

>>9024806
effective but not satisfying

>>9024833
Checked

>>9024830

>>9024833
Inherently unsatisfactory desu.

>>9024860
kinda big ears desu


what would be needed to make it effective AND satisfying?

>>9024884
>what would be needed to make it effective AND satisfying?
I don't think that's possible because lack of satisfaction is what drives our propagation and adaptation as a species.

Why do anything if you're satisfied?

>>9024907
>Why do anything if you're satisfied?
Is the sea hungry? Are the clouds afraid?

Why do you think...

he didnt. He talks about how solitude makes one profound but also miserable in beyond good and evil.

>>9026902
But it's also one of the 4 cardinal virtues listed in the same book.

>>9026909
hey no one said that virtues are without suffering. Nietzsche was basically a suffering advocate.

>>9026914
true. now that i think about it, for nietzsche, like you say, a virtue would not be a virtue if it didn't entail suffering. he was a bit of a masochist, in a healthy way

>>9024656
>>9024738
he suffered from loneliness but he enjoyed suffering so essentially he liked loneliness
>>9026914
this

>>9024603
Probably didn't. He was ostracised because he didn't have the natural authority/charisma to assert his ideals.

>>9027245
you're a fucking retard, he's not a masoschist

Deep down, he hated everybody.

Why do YOU enjoy solitude so much?

everyone here feels like they have the authority to speak on nietzsche's behalf. A social life is a life of ressentiment and bad conscience, which are expressions of reactive forces: slave-morality.

>>9024603
resentment

>>9027638
I'm just giving one perspective of why neitzsche was such a school shooter.

>>9027638
>A social life is a life of ressentiment and bad conscience, which are expressions of reactive forces: slave-morality.
Then build a different type of social life, you quitter. Such übermensch, can't even learn how to manipulate others and has to pout alone in his room like a 10yo. It's funny how the "sheep" are "superficial" enough that you get your panties in a knot whenever they put a word on your great projects but you're still completely powerless against their "basicness".

>Swimming is an activity of drowning and getting wet, which are expressions of reactive forces: fish-morality. It's not apt for Real Humans.

>>9024603
I dont know, but I like it too. I can only read and get creative when I'm alone, when I'm not alone I feel like I'm acting and I'm not really free to be myself.
>>9027791
But he did have a social life, just not a really big and active one

Why does this place care so much about Freddy's personal life instead of his work?

Maybe because he was secretly black?

I wish he liked me instead.

>>9027835
Are you the antifa girl?

>>9027814
>Why does this place care so much about Freddy's personal life instead of his work?
Because the zeitgeist is obsessed with personal life and this place has none, so they look up to great writers to validate themselves. Alternatively, the discourse habits on this place are terrible and most people can't bother to change them because they feel they'd rather be somewhere else. moot should have put on a character requirement not a character limit.

>>9027791
rofl what are you talking about? "build a different type of social life", he percieved the vast majority of people as slaves, why would he want to "manipulate" them, ,and btw, it seems like you've misunderstood his doctrine of the will to power, like so many other people on this board. He's not powerless against their "basicness", he doesn't care for them. there's a difference here.

>>9027900
I'm not talking about Nietzsche.

>He's not powerless against their "basicness", he doesn't care for them. there's a difference here.
Mm-hmm.

>>9024649
fpbp

>>9027791
A social life most of the time involves people where you do social activities with them such as conversing, drinking and other leisure activities which instead of actually energizing us leaves us drained (incessant chatter, gossip etc.).

Rarely it is what you actually are interested in. Building a social life of your taste doesn't always work out. If someone's style of socializing is not the same as people they live with, there's nothing you can do (unless you want to change the order of your life, which you don't want to change).

This is where one enjoys solitude the most; acceptance. Nobody cares about other's opinions anyway. At the end of the day you are what you have.

>>9028214
Society isn't an unmovable, stupid object; it's made of people just like you and me, and if it weren't, then what are you trying to do here? Social custom is changing all the time, and if it can change unconsciously, there's no reason why it can't change consciously. Thinking one's way of socializing can't change (which is not the same as saying it shall change in some way in particular) is like thinking any other part of them will not change--which is ridiculous because everything about and around them is changing all the time.

>conversing, drinking and other leisure activities which instead of actually energizing us leaves us drained
All "activities" leave us "drained". Why you think this is bad, when it's what activities are, is beyond me.

>Nobody cares about other's opinions anyway.
Why are you talking to me then? Please don't appeal to some third party "idea" or something, that's no different.

>This is where one enjoys solitude the most; acceptance.
Rocks, books and trees can't "accept" you. The neurosis you have when you're among others is mostly your own.

>>9024603

time is a belgian waffle

>>9028730
Hah, I should see it no surprise to see this reply here. Is this Sebastian?

You really are a kid you know that? A weak little pussy faggot dilettante who likes to hear himself speak, who knows nothing about anything, and who first and for most would like to be respected and regarded as a well read intellectual without actually being a well read intellectual.

In all honesty, as I have pointed out, I really am not that intellectual. It is only that the masses, even on this board, are, in a word, idiots. If you read the complete works of the following you should be well on your way to becoming an intellectual. Yes, even you if it is you, Sebastian.

Epic of Gilgamesh
Homer
Plato
Virgil
The Bible (I almost wanted to not put this on the list, but it is important to know what's wrong to know what's right - see what Derrida says about Blue and Red, et al)
Dante
Kant
Schopenhauer
Kierkegaard
Nietzsche (also an underrated composer)
Dostoyevsky (the greatest writer since Socrates)
Joyce
Proust
Camus
Sartre
Barthes
Derrida
Wallace

I hardly think that any of these names need introducing or explaining. As for the rest of you imbeciles, it is your prerogative not mine to expand your narrow vocabularies. I'm going to go read now and you nimrods should too. You're a literary weakling, you don't know who you're up against.

-A

>>9028739

>The greatest writer since Socrates