/lit/ - Literature

>>9021336

Chekhov, Ibsen, Kafka and Proust would like to take your opinion, throw it away, and shit down your retarded gullet.

>>9021336
Cuck

>>9021336
If by atheist philosophy you mean directly atheistic philosophy then yeah you're right. It's pretty hard to write essay after essay about the stuff you're not doing.

However there's great atheistic literature/philosophy about the void that not believing in god creates especially as to how it relates to meaning

>>9021377
>Kakfa
>athiest

Dude, all he had a problem with was authority within religious systems, not the deities themselves.

muh mufuggin diary deshita

The poetry of Wallace Stevens

>>9021336
Diderot, J.S. Mill, Marx, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Dewey, Russell, Carnap, Quine, Davidson, Sartre, Beauvoir, Camus, Foucault, Derrida. Ring any fucking bells?

>>9021377

Kafka wasn't an athiest, you dingo, nor did he write "atheist literature".

>>9021336
>mfw you don't understand that leagues of writers use religion for aesthetics, but otherwise are completely atheistic

>>9021377
All awful.
>>9021991
Nietzsche isn't an atheist. The rest are awful.

>>9022065
how is quine awful

Douglas Adams

>>9022078
>analytic
Platonism is bad philosophy.

>>9022083
>Douglas Adams
>literature

Pick one.

>>9022065
>awful

How does it feel to be mentally handicapped anon

>>9022065
>Nietzsche isn't an atheist.
Say what? The philosopher is exclaims "God is Dead", rejects universal values, denies the noumenal realm, abhors teleological explanations, repudiates freedom of the will, and purports the view that all truth is really just an expression of power -- is not an atheist?

>>9022116
>God is dead
you misread that passage if that's your interpretation.

>>9021377
Chekhov didn't write atheist literature

>>9022088
what a convincing argument

There's tons of atheist philosophy. It used to be called natural philosophy, but it's more commonly known these days under the name science.

>>9022122
Please enlighten us plebs as to the correct interpretation of "God is dead."

>>9022065
This is bait (too lazy to post fancy picture)

>>9022122
Nietzsche doesn't believe in anything transcendent buddy. The purpose of that passage was to convey that the will to truth had turned on itself and that the consequence was inexorably nihilism. It's primarily historical/sociological musing but it does tacitly indicate Nietzsche's atheistic metaphysical picture.

>>9022065
>>9022122
>I do not by any means know atheism as a result; even less as an event; it is a matter of course with me, from instinct. I am too inquisitive, too questionable, too exuberant to stand for any gross answer. God is a gross answer, an indelicacy against us thinkers -- at bottom merely a gross prohibition for us: you shall not think!
-- Ecce Homo, "Why I Am So Clever,' section 1

>>9022154
The guy was such a talented writer, why didnt he write any fiction?

>>9022166
Zarathustra is sort of close to fiction in its presentation (it's a bit excruciating, though). He did write a bunch of poetry, maybe check that out?

>>9022154
But didnt he belive human beings can transcent by creating art?

>>9022116
N. has problems with specific conceptions and usage of god(s), but this only means he suggests we have to create new, better ones, and not scrapping them entirely.

>>9022159
>>9022154
>It's primarily historical/sociological musing but it does tacitly indicate Nietzsche's atheistic metaphysical picture.

Agreed, but as there is nuance is all of his writings and thoughts, this position is no exception because he isn't an atheist in the 'anti-' or 'desire-to-be-free-of' -religion sense.

Not that other anon, btw.

>>9022183
Maybe metaphorically speaking but not in the technical sense of transcendent I was referring to.

>>9022193
And what would be the technical way of expressing that idea (trascent by creating art) without metaphors?

>>9022183
I think art would be one of the pursuits he deems detrimental to the coming of the overmen.
Writing is too.

>>9022214
I'm not exactly sure. I think the underlying importance of it is that Nietzsche valorizes creation, i.e. an active engagement with the world, whether it be value systems or works of art.

>I say X can't be great and my whole fucking argument is when a great X is pointed out to say "no, that's not great because I say so, or it's not X because I say so."
Yawn. Fuck off with your no true Scotsman nonsense.

>>9021991
>Camus, Foucault, Derrida
>good
>in any way

>>9021336
Stupid Western gaijin!

India has the greatest atheist literature.

Check out the Carvaka/Lokayata school of philosophy.

>>9022631
>(You)
>reading any of their books
>ever

>>9022755
>slurping up whatever shit is put in front of you without thinking for yourself

>>9022849
>Being religious
>thinking for yourself

>>9022903
This isn't about the OP at all. Camus, Foucault, and Derrida are absolute garbage.

>>9021377
>Kafka

"To be absolutely honest, although I don't believe in anything too fervently, I do tend to believe in some kind of mind behind the cosmos. I don't like calling it God, because God to most people means a grouchy old man sitting on a cloud, counting all the kids who are masturbating so he can put them in hell later on."
- robert anton wilson

>>9021336

OP sufflavit in perpetuum foras

Ummm, technically all literature is atheistic? That you don't believe one thing is real doesn't make it so you won't like the story, that's like the basis of fiction. Philosophy is more or less the same, that an idea is "outdated" doesn't make it so it's not worth pondering over or reinterpreting.

You would have had a point if said there's no great Militant atheist stuff, because militant atheism is based on taking a negative as proof when the whole reason atheism happens is because theists can't prove God.

Oh, and let's not forget all religion isn't necessarily theistic and "atheism" really doesn't work outside Abrahamic religions, okay? So the vast majority of stuff coming from East Asian or Buddhist countries also is "atheistic".

>>9023426
>the vast majority of stuff coming from East Asian or Buddhist countries also is "atheistic"
top meme westerner

>>9022116
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_in_the_Earth

>>9023320
>mfw I'm converted into Christianity by this pic

>>9023428
>It's a gaijin don't understand mysticar orientar thought post
Smelly, dumb, exoticist scum.

>>9023439
why not voodoo

>>9021991
my god that's a bad list of names

>>9022143
hey leddit hows it going

>>9022122
What do you think atheist literature even means? It's meaningless, you can smack that sort of arbitrary categorizing on anyone you want.
Is it simply the lack of God in a story, or what?

>>9021336
All philosophy that doesn't invoke god or religion is atheist literature.

Atheistic just means 'not religious'.

>>9023540
Why do you mess up the entire question even further by getting it wrong? Atheism is the position that there's not sufficient evidence for a deity (any deity, that is), and thus not believing in that deity. It coincides with religion, but the mere abstract stance of "atheism" doesn't even touch upon religion.

>>9023540
>words dont mean what general consensus define, words mean what i want them to mean

>>9023533
Irreligious literature written by atheist authors, I would assume.

>>9021336
Percy Bysshe Shelly my nigga.

>>9021377
>Chekhov, Ibsen, Kafka and Proust
>Masturbatory authors/playwrights for narcissists
Figures.

>>9023547
Terribly odd, though, that categorization. Very little to do with literature as well, seeing an atheist could very well write a literary text that involves christianity or other religious dogmas, just as a christian (or others) could write an entirely atheistic literary text.. ?

>There is no great atheist writer
>someone names renowned authors who wrote about atheism or were atheist
>lol they're bad
Your is circular. If you think atheist authors are bad for being atheist, no amount of namedropping is going to make you chancge your mind, you dogmatic faggot.

>>9023816
>renowned iff not bad

>>9022065

>Awful

>Sartre

>>9022192
>create new, better ones,

If you are creating Gods you are an atheist

>>9021336
>Implying

>>9023555

Nice shitpost, but if you want to troll, you need to make people actually doubt whether you've (mis)read the authors in question, not implicitly admit that you have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about.

>>9022658
>"atheism" really doesn't work outside Abrahamic religions

>>9022127
>argument
Platonism is a bad philosophy.
>>9022106
Ask yourself.
>>9022116
>I've only read Wikipedia articles of Nietzsche
>>9022153
>anything i dont like is bait
>>9022159
Not atheistic. I don't think you understand what atheism is, or what religion is.

Atheism is a step away from nihilism. It's an irrelevant category.
>>9023816
You're the dogmatist.
>>9024994
The worst, even.

Teenage philosophy.

>people ITT arguing that Nietzsche wasn't an atheist

>>9022088
Are you trying to imply that all analytic philosophy is some form of Platonism? If so, stating that in response to fucking Quine is extra lulz. If not, I have no idea what you're asserting.

>>9026127
>I don't understand Platonism
The very concept of 'analytic philosophy' is Platonic.

>>9022903

>>9023682
>a christian (or others) could write an entirely atheistic literary text

Atheists would disagree

>>9021336
*tips fedora*

>>9022065
*tips fedora*

>>9022088
>analytic philosophy is platonist

you're fucking retarded

>>9026133
Assertions are not arguments; for that reason, your posting is dumb and bad.

>>9022116
>>9022065
epic troll attempt, sure baited lots of people with this hot meme

>>9026052
>Atheism is a step away from nihilism. It's an irrelevant category.
*tips fedora*

>it's yet another episode of fedora christians make stupid shitposts about shit nobody cares about

>>9026179
It's inherently Platonist.
>>9026180
>arguments are good
Platonism isn't good philosophy.
>>9026181
anything i dont like is le bait

>>9026238
>It's inherently Platonist.
No, it's not. It's really just not. You have no idea what you're even talking about.

>>9026242
Yes I do, you're just terribly stupid.

>>9026258
>says really retarded thing
>"you're retarded"
>no, you're retarded

k, closing the thread now, thanks for the kek moron

>>9026346
your stupid because i said so haha

>>9021336
shit thread. why did you post this

>>9026386
because christposters are two steps below bronys by this point.