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Hey /lit/
Would you rather be an author known for writing something immensely popular but also immensely crap. Or be known for writing something rather obscure and unknown but is a literary masterpiece.

Bonus questions. What's your favourite obscure book that the general public has probably never heard of (so a sizable minority of /lit/ probably has heard of it)?

Pic very much related.

>> No.898823

Immensely popular probably, rather obscure authors hardly make enough money to live on.

>> No.898832

Immensely popular for the shit book. Then, once I'm financially secure, I can write what ever the fuck I want.

>> No.898839

>>898823
>>898832

>> No.898856
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898856

In this country, you gotta make the money first.

>> No.898857

>>898823

Sadly this. Remember that writing is very much a business and like any business the popularity with the crap that you do allows you the scope to do your own thing.

>> No.898859

I want money for hookers and cocaine

>> No.898868 [DELETED] 

An average author is lucky to make about 40-60k if they pump out at least a book a year. A block buster author can make millions just selling the movie rights alone which will then sell a fuckton more books thus making them millions more.

>> No.899171

An average author is lucky to make about 40-60k if they pump out at least a book a year. A block buster author can make millions just selling the movie rights alone which will then sell a fuckton more books thus making them millions more.

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>>898814
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>> No.899203

How can you be known for being unknown?

>> No.899227

all you greedy mofos.... I would rather not be considered a writer or make it my profession, then write whatever I want and hope it gains a cult following.

>> No.899236

>>899227
You would rather work your ass off to be under-appreciated and under-paid then coast your way to millions?

>> No.899272

>>899236

I'm sure he would be OK with working for a little bit and THEN coasting his way to millions.

Did you mean to say THAN? You dumb fuck.

>> No.899277

>>899272
Yes because grammatical errors on an informal imageboard without an edit function are a clear indicator of stupidity.

>> No.899288

I'd rather write something good as a hobby, and make a bit of money off of that to add to what I get from doing a real job. That way, I get to write quality work and not have to worry about my popularity.

>> No.899328

I'd rather go through a lifetime of torture than submit to public opinion, yes.

>> No.899337

Not a single book. The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever series by Stephen R. Donaldson.

Pure epic legendry.

>> No.899388

Honestly the latter. In my silly little dreams I imagine actually being able to have a conversation with someone about my work that actually appreciates it. I'd be amazed by the insight the would give me and in return they could approach me as a person.

I could do without the rock star status and the MINDLESS people that follow mindless books. I could do without people telling me they want to fuck such and such character.

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>>899388
>>899388
>>899388

>> No.899406

I'd rather be rich so I would choose the first option. But then again, I'm very vain and want to sit around eating chocolates.

>> No.899408

>>899288
>Writing isn't a real job.
>Writers don't contribute anything to society.
>They are not worth shit.

>> No.899421

>>899408

...

/slap with a trout

>> No.899434

My plan: Become a millionaire by other means of work instead of writing a shitty book that little girls can fap to, then write a literary masterpiece. Use my money to promote the book, and maybe it will get noticed. But I refuse to lower my standards to crap like Twilight and make a living off of it.

>> No.899444

ITT fucking faggots who will never be good writers nor popular.

>> No.899447

>>899408
It's only a real job if it can be outsourced.

>> No.899460

Neither, I'd rather have a well know book that is considered a great work of literature. I think if my book got as popular as the Twilight series or Harry Potter I'd end up killing myself from all of the haters

>> No.899467

I would honestly be happy self publishing like 20 copies and handing them out to hipsters around my area, odds are they would enjoy it and talk to me about it. I would fucking love people to enjoy my work.

>> No.899473

>>899467
>>899460

Agreed. I mean, who would want a shitload of haters bitching about your book nonstop when you can have one that isn't as famous but is also very well-written. Also I wouldn't want all that pressure to write more for the fans and turn it into a movie, bla bla bla.

>> No.899477

>>899473
Exactly. If my book ends up as great as I'd like it to be I don't think fans the like of twifags would understand or appreciate it for what it really is. I hate that.

>> No.899492

>>899477

Yeah. They don't appreciate Twilight because of how it is written, but because of the cliche' romance, "hot" guys, and that retarded Bella. The actual book isn't anything amazing, and I'd rather write a book that I can be proud of and let others enjoy it, too. On top of that, I'm not good with too much criticism, so I would be very careful about how I would write it.

>> No.899501

>>899492
Me too. I mean it would be nice to have it on the shelf at books a million but if I had to write a shit book about guys fighting for a girl to get there it wouldn't be worth it.

I think what I'm going to do is send the manuscript to companies for around a year while I revise and if no one bites I'll self publish it XD

>> No.899503

To be perfectly honest, i'd take the popularity and then money. Life sucks without money.

>> No.899512

>>899501

The popularity WOULD be nice, but I wouldn't want my fans to be raving girls and soccer moms. I'd want intelligent fans who could appreciate my book in more ways than just the characters.

I would polish my book to completion and send it around to publishers, maybe post my other works on websites to promote myself as a writer, etc. Too bad I'm too lazy to finish that damn book. Good luck with yours though!

>> No.899517

>>899503
Yeah but what if decades from now you're realized as a literary genius and you start making metric shit tons of money for a book you didn't have to stoop down to a near retarded level for? Sounds good eh?

>> No.899534

>>899408
Writers contribute plenty. Upton Sinclair's writing raised awareness of important issues and got him into politics even if his views weren't "mainstream" enough at the time to be taken seriously even by others on the left.

Jonathan Swift's writing raised an awareness of the plight of the Irish poor

Thomas Paine's writing inspired the revolutionaries who liberated the colonies from British tyranny

Hunter S. Thompson and Carlos Castaneda inspired a lot of people to do acid

H.P. Lovecraft inspired the people who Thompson and Castaneda inspired to take drugs to kill themselves

>> No.899537

>>899512
You seem like a pretty O.K. person lol if you want i could read like the first page or something XD my email is in the email field

>> No.899538

>>899517
No, it would still be better to take the money from writing a bestseller and then starting penning my literary masterpiece since I don't have to worry about things like paying my bills anymore, letting me write/perfect it to the fullest.

>> No.899542

>>899538
yeah but you'll always have that shitty obviously pandering to specific audience book on your record

>> No.899545

>>899537

Well unfortunately it's turning out a bit retarded at the moment and I need to re-edit it like there's no tomorrow, so maybe some other time? :P

>> No.899548

It all depends I guess. If I had a stable job and shit, I would rather be an obscure writer. Though, if it came to a "Alright now's the time to follow your dreams" situation, I would write the fuck out of paranormal romance and make a shitload of money.

>> No.899554

>>899542
So what? Haters are gonna hate. If a writer lets the opinions of others shackle him so tightly they should have never of became a writer.

>> No.899562

>>899554
Chances are what you REALLY think is pretty unlikely to get published when mainstream opinion is taken into account.

>> No.899570

In terms of popular but crap, well shit ton of money is a shit ton of money.

Personally I'd much rather create something obscure, but well written. It'd pay a lot less, if anything, but at least I could be proud of it, which is more than Meyer can say for herself.

Then again, she probably is proud of it, being the soulless hack that she is.

>> No.899572

>>899554
I was actually talking about the internal turmoil and shame of doing that when you know you only did it for the money

>> No.899579

>>899570
I am now going to watch an interview with meyer and see what she thinks about this shit. I'll let you guys know if I ragequit

>> No.899591

>>899408

>Writers don't contribute anything to society.

Shakespeare and Chaucer would like a word.

If you're going to troll, then troll. But at least do it intelligently.

>> No.899592

>>899572
I have no shame because I will most likely enjoy writing it. People act like you can only enjoy "literary" works or genre/popular works. If I was writing something as ridiculous as Twilight I would enjoy every fucking second of it.

>> No.899593

>>899591
What exactly have Shakespeare and Chaucer contributed to society?

An excuse for the lazier faggots in society to not work because they want to pretend to be medieval people in a fucking renfair play. Totally fucking meaningful.

>> No.899597

I'd rather have the money.

>> No.899634

>>899593

Shakespeare: influenced countless generations of writers (Dickens, Hardy etc), expanded the dramatic potential of writing, and most importantly, helped shape modern english. He's partially responsible for watch you're currently writing.

Chaucer had less effect on society, not including the rumour that he helped form the London dialect, but he was still a classic poet, and brought huge innovations in poetry.

>> No.899657

>>899593
You probably use at least some words which Shakespeare invented each day. Also justifying art from a practical standpoint is a fucking idiotic proposition and if you don't understand the value of art and aesthetic, then you should probably head your ass over to /k/ or whatever....

>> No.899661

I'd rather have the obscure kind of notariety...

>> No.899666

To answer your second question, OP:

My favourite obscure books would probably be House of Leaves, John DIES at the End, and Let the right one in.

I... don't really know about the first question.

>> No.899671

I plan on appealing to a very small demographic.

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>>899272

>> No.901751

>>899666
No offense but those books aren't very obscure, at least not around here. We're using the word obscure to convey the status of being generally unknown

>> No.901778

Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell

I found it to be a wonderful read but I hardly ever hear people talk about it even here on /lit/.

>> No.902480

I just want people to enjoy my books and writings.

If there are people out there that honestly like my work, I will be happy.

>> No.902484

>>901778

that book was fucking awesome man. slow, though. maybe too slow.