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>current year
>still parroting generic edgy atheist opinions

I hope you're young OP, because if not you're going to have a shit life

>>8983806
>>8983798
you're both blebs

>>8983806
>it's a meme so it must be false
The reason atheists seem so disproportionately numerous on the Internet is because they constantly BTFO Christfags.

>he believes in belief
what a gaff

Panendeism masterrace reporting in

>>8983816
this picture literally made me euphoric

science is so epik xd thats why Einstein needed Kant to make his autistic GR theory work

not to mention that science wouldn't be able to find the cat if the cat wasn't observable or reproducible

>>8983835
1/10 for effort, but nobody can be this retarded and still know how to breathe

>>8983816

thats a shit analogy

>>8983816
Except that science is actually really looking for a cat, the rest are looking for the meaning of life. EH??

Couldn't agree more OP

>>8983816
>not just saying "here kitty kitty"


Sometimes science just overcomplicates simple matters. Don't be so insistent on finding the "true" way of things

>>8983854

>Universe just began XDDDDDD
>just randomly popped into existence pham :D:DDD:D:D
>even though everything within the universe has a cause, Universe itself just booped and started lel :)))))))
Atheists, everyone

>>8983897
>we don't know how the universe started therefore god exists
wew

>>8983905
We don't know how the universe began so god might exist

This is the rational perspective.

>>8983911
Anything *might* exist. A rational person needs a reason to believe in something before he believes in it.

>>8983886
>>not just saying "here kitty kitty"
Supposing truth is a kitty — what then?

>>8983919
Then no rational person would be an atheist since it would be irrational to hold an affirmative belief that nothing created the universe

Also rationality and reason is based on faith in first premises

>>8983926
You pet it of course

>>8983896
ok. let's pretend for a moment that you really are a retard. a cat that can't be observed isn't a cat. stupid fuck.

>>8983930
Define atheist please.

>>8983930
It's not an affirmative belief. It's the LACK of belief. In the same way that I don't believe that there is a planet of giant sea-monsters halfway across the universe, I don't believe in god.

>>8983879
>tfw Humanism was only possible because of incarnation theology
>tfw 21st century "humanists" hate on Christianity even though without it their entire worldview would never have developed

>>8983933
>a cat that can't be observed isn't a cat
A cat that can't be observed is simultaneously a cat and not a cat.

>>8983940
That's agnostic.

I actually think it's pretty likely such a planet exists somewhere in the universe.

>>8983798
back off, leaf
we can sense your kind even without flags enabled

>>8983933
Because you have a faith based belief of what constitutes a cat

>>8983935
>A rational person needs a reason to believe in something before he believes in it.

What is your rational reason for believing in this axiom?

>>8983951
No, that's atheism. "a-" meaning not "-theism" meaning belief in god. Nobody identifies as agnostic for any other unprovable claim.

>all these edgy Christfags denying basic arguments when the catholic church has agreed with the theory of evolution and big bang


parrot Christians is what y'all are.

>>8983961
So what should you call someone who affirmatively believes that the Universe has no creator?

I guess none of the self-proclaimed atheists in this thread believe that.

>>8983947
you grossly misunderstand schrodinger's cat

>>8983963
>implying everyone that argues against the fallacies of atheism are Christian
>implying the Catholic church represents all Christians

>>8983958
Rationality doesn't have to be objective to be useful.
>>8983964
Why does it matter? What's the practical difference between someone who lacks a belief in Santa Claus and someone who affirmatively believes that Santa Claus doesn't exist?

>>8983958
No, I use a language that defines a cat as having observable characteristics.

>>8983961
Atheism is "there is no god". Agnosticism is "lol idk".

Is there a planet where a creature that looks like Cthulu exists? lol idk

Does a creature that looks like Cthulu exist on this planet? no because if there was we'd expect evidence but there isn't any.

Same thing with "does God exist" vs "does YHWH exist".

Double slit experiment clearly shows that the universe on a quantum level has intelligent design behind it.
Get rekt atheists

>>8983942
Hey man, with love comes hate and with cars comes break. I'll let you figure out the rest.

>>8983965
I was just shitepoasting.

>>8983963
Big Bang theory was actually developed by a Catholic.

>>8983977
I did that expirement with your mom and your sister and my dick went in both lmao

>>8983979
thank goodness

>>8983974
Agnosticism is a meme. Someone who says "lol idk" and someone who says "no it doesn't exist" don't really differ much in practice, except the first guy is an indecisive cuck.

>>8983990
And they're both wrong haha

>>8983970
> What's the practical difference between someone who lacks a belief in Santa Claus and someone who affirmatively believes that Santa Claus doesn't exist?

Under your pragmatic axiom of rationality, the former is rational while the latter is irrational, and apparently "rationality" matters to you since your criticism of religion is the irrationality of it

>Rationality doesn't have to be objective to be useful.
Surely you can understand that when you make declarative claims, readers would assume you are making truth-value statements rather than just statements that could be useful to achieving ends if held as self-evident

>>8983971
Yet you have faith in an axiom of consistency that cat consistently means the same thing. Yet you have faith that empirical observations are reliable. Yet you have faith a cat exists and is not just in your brain.

>>8983990
The other way they differ is that the atheist is a lazy, deceitful pseud who preys on the implications that are reasonable for a trusting reader to assume from the atheist's lack of description and idiosyncrasies where the agnostic takes a second to further clarify his position.

>>8983982
No wonder it's so shit

>>8983995
It takes a special kind of delusion to be religious in the current year

>>8984004
damn thats a solid argument

>>8983990
Not taking a side in an unprovable question isn't indecisive.

>>8984001
>first year philosophy student: the post
Agnostics are stupid because it's perfectly reasonable to take a negative stance on something you have no reason to believe in. Is the agnostic agnostic about all unprovable claims or just god?

Do you believe in either of the following
>courage
>love
>passion
>dreaming
>brotherhood
>aspiration
>compassion
>morality
>etc
None of these things can be proven with science. In fact, most of human existence is quite baseless

>>8984011
>unprovable question
Unprovable questions are worthless.

Prove me wrong.

gorgonbungalo is the only real god because he is defined as being able to eat all other gods and absorb their powers. the reason you don't see much evidence of him is because he's smart and doesn't leave a trail that leads back to his godly den. the other religions are his traps he uses to catch and eat other gods.

>>8984019
>disbelieving in something you can't experience = disbelieving in your own emotions
And yes, emotions can be shown to have a scientific/evolutionary cause. And atheism != positivism.

>>8984019
Therefore god exists? What a legitimately retarded thought.

Those are all social constructs by the way.

>>8984021
Your life is an unprovable question

>>8984008
He's right. Even a cursory look at how the major religions came to be shows that it's artifice stacked upon artifice.

It's all fake.

>>8984001
you have an extreme confirmation bias regarding the subject of faith.

>>8984028
So?

whynot.jpeg

>>8984036
This is the most retarded argument ever
>if a god exist it must be the Judeo-Christian god
>there is no other possible god

>>8984028
Damn...... This caused great cognition on my part

>>8984036
because of integrity and the desire to have a fully functioning brain etc

>>8984021
Subjective worth does not determine truthfulness or lack thereof.

>>8984017
I have no reason to believe in your statement of
>"it's perfectly reasonable to take a negative stance on something you have no reason to believe in"
therefore it's perfectly reasonable for me to take a negative stance on it.

>>8984030
Again, here we see the ever euphoric New atheist conflating all beliefs in creators and deities with traditional, orthodox religion as well as having an undutable faith in empiricism

>>8984033
You have no argument

>>8984050
*tips*

>>8984036
What if god punishes those who believed in him and rewards those who didn't?

>>8983798
If you don't believe in God you're an SJW.

>>8984003
if you're talking about the show that was probably developed by Jews.

>>8984052
You're being obtuse. It's not retarded to disbelieve in something for which there is no real evidence for
>inb4 but why do you need evidence rationality is a spook
Because otherwise I'm deluding myself

>>8984068
>It's not retarded to disbelieve in something for which there is no real evidence for

You keep spouting this premise without proving it using evidence

If you were truly rational, you would require evidence for this claim and you wouldn't delude yourself with this faith based belief

>>8984052
You had no argument first, bro. "You have faith in consistency," isn't a sensible argument. As long as the definition of a cat is consistent, my discernment of cats will remain consistent. Yes. I'm sane. You caught me.

>>8984022
Are you a prophet of gorgonbungalo?

>>8984081
I never said I was rational. All thought is ad-hoc, that doesn't make it invalid.

>>8983982
Yes and thats why the church accepts it. But tell that to any hardline follower and suddenly Georges Lemaître is a devil worshipping homosexual.

>>8983942
>tfw Christianity is only possible because of Judaic monotheism
>tfw "Christians" hate on Judaism even though without it their entire worldview would never have developed

>tfw Judaism is only possible because of Semitic polytheism
>tfw "Jews" hate on Paganism even though without it their entire worldview would never have developed

Nice logic

>>8984088
I only posted it here because nobody will believe you. He doesn't really want to be known.

>>8984019
>None of these things can be proven with science.
Of course they can you dolt

>>8983942
>>8984098
All this proves is that hate is irrational :^)

>>8984086
Your faith in an external world and faith in the validity of your senses are not rational.

>>8984089
Then surely you have no problem with religious people

>>8984131
things don't become irrational just because you say so. you have too much faith in your "faith" buzzword.

>>8983798
it's overwhelming sometimes, i have to be candid with god when i pray, i mean, the guy knows me. he knows how hypocritical i am all the time, how i wonder if he even exists, but in the end, i ask for forgiveness for my stupidity, ask him to wash away my sin, and pray for the safety and care of my loved ones. in the end, it feels good, it feels like in some ways i've missed it in my life, and that it's good to come home.

>>8984173
Things are "rational" just because you say so

You do not have objective a priori knowledge of reality. You ASSUME a priori knowledge to make conclusions based off of. All knowledge is predicated on faith.

>>8983798
How does it feel to be a frogposter?

>>8984186
aren't*

>>8984186
Why do you have faith in Yaweh and not Zeus or Ganesh?

>>8984193
I'm not Christian. Jewish or Muslim

>>8984186
no, things are rational if they are based on or in accordance with reason or logic. what you don't seem to understand is that these are things that exist in human minds, and not just mystical abstractions from another dimension.

>>8983963
>Catholic Church
On Sunday we go to an old building that used to be a Winn Dixie. The church bought it and made a stage with JESUS in big light up letters in the background. Up on stage the band plays songs using guitars, bass, and drums. Before and afterwards we talk with members of the community and exchange hugs out in the lobby.
>Meanwhile atheist-anon is laughing alone somewhere. He wonders why sometimes he is stricken with a sharp and deep pain. Deep in the core of his body, as if in his very essence he hurts.

>>8983816
>>8984004
>>8984050
pic

>>8984036
Not an argument

>>8984217
I'm that poster but I'm not euphoric. I just don't think that kind of cognitive dissonance is healthy.