/lit/ - Literature

Plato ain't nothing.

ever heard of Sisyphus tho?

>>8960903

That's the best complete works of Plato though.

>>8960903
What did he mean by this?

nf (not funny)

>>8960907
Isn't that what Al Capone died of?

>>8960903
Is Plato the biggest hack?

I'm an intellectual and well-versed in the history of Western Thought and Idea, and it feels like Whitehead's observation "all of western philosophy is a footnote to Plato" would be more accurately formulated as "all of western philosophy is a continuous BTFOing of Plato."

Plato is like the pseud who comes on /lit/ to samefag his own arguments and false flag his "opponents." By fortuitous happenstance Plato's writings survived in greater volume and quantity than other more insightful and coherent thinkers.

Now, Plato is essentially something for people who aren't intellectuals to read on the subway, and even Black folk have started to realize this. When are we going to collectively stop focusing our philosophical efforts on BTFOing the non-entity that is Plato and instead start spending our time and effort on more worthwhile endeavours?

Pic related.

>>8960903
That's a great book OP. Let me explain why I'd recommend this book to everyone: Plato is stupid.

Seriously.

And it's important that you all understand that Western society is based on the fallacy-ridden ramblings of an idiot. Read this, understand that he is not joking, and understand that Plato is well and truly fucked in the head.

Every single one of his works goes like this:

SOCRATES: "Hello, I will now prove this theory!"
STRAWMAN: "Surely you are wrong!"
SOCRATES: "Nonsense. Listen, Strawman: can we agree to the following wildly presumptive statement that is at the core of my argument?" {Insert wildly presumptive statement here— this time, it's "There is such a thing as Perfect Justice" and "There is such a thing as Perfect Beauty", among others.}
STRAWMAN: "Yes, of course, that is obvious."
SOCRATES: "Good! Now that we have conveniently skipped over all of the logically-necessary debate, because my off-the-wall crazy ideas surely wouldn't stand up to any real scrutiny, let me tell you an intolerably long hypothetical story."
{Insert intolerably long hypothetical story.}
STRAWMAN: "My God, Socrates! You have completely won me over! That is brilliant! Your woefully simplistic theories should become the basis for future Western civilization! That would be great!"
SOCRATES: "Ha ha! My simple rhetorical device has duped them all! I will now go celebrate by drinking hemlock and scoring a cameo in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure!"

The moral of the story is: Plato is stupid.

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>>8960936

"And so the oblivion of being thrives on its not understanding what it purportedly overcomes: Platonism and its ground"

you'd do well to think about that for another decade or so

>>8960933
so who or what are more worthwhile than Plato? genuinely interested

>>8960936
WHITEHEAD ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>8960957

read plato. that guy literally calls himself an intellectual and doesn't understand the value of plato

>>8960957
but if plato isn't worthwhile why should i waste time reading him? who should i be reading instead?

>>8960957
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>>8960966
it's pasta you redditors

>>8961002
Hey reddit

The quickest way to impress your parents is to call Plato an idiot

>>8961092
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