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Is music anti-lit?

What did the great philosophers say about music? Did they agree that it is pleb?

>> No.8894348

>>8894345
Yea

>> No.8894357

>>8894345

Schopenhauer considered it the purest form of art.

>> No.8894359

Schopey thought it in a league of its own. The language of the will

>> No.8894369

>>8894357
>>8894359
Schopenhauer was a racist mysogonist

>> No.8894381

>>8894369

And?

>> No.8894388

>>8894381
So he's only fit for virgin anime watching pseuds

>> No.8894415

>>8894357
why do i consider music impure and bestial
it is sublime for an imperceptible moment and then becomes irritating, feverish and infectious - to me the experience of all music undergoes a painful refractory period like that of a shameful orgasm
a good book or film becomes better the more it rests in ones mind.

>> No.8894416

>>8894369
>>8894388
Don't matter, Schopenhauer is right about music.
It's the purest form of art. In the end it's all about communicating sensation direct through sound, no need to use images or words.

>> No.8894419

>>8894416
but they do use words. What evidence does he provide

>> No.8894429

>>8894345
Classical music is /lit/, anything else, shit

>> No.8894430
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8894430

>>8894416
The fuck? How does that make any sense, we communicate in words not sounds

>> No.8894438
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8894438

>>8894429
>classical music

Pic related
Jazz is the real /lit/ genre

>> No.8894440

>>8894430
0/10 bait

>> No.8894443

>>8894438
Your pic is literally mr. Jazz-Meistro27

>> No.8894447

>>8894443
Only to a pleb who still thinks of Jazz in cartoon 50s beatnik stereotypes

>> No.8894453
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8894453

>>8894430
>>8894419
It's just sound, for fuck's sake.
No other form of art can truly reproduce the song of a bird, but music can.
There's no need to paint a sad man or write about how sad this thing is, just play a fucking sad melody and the person will feel sad.

Music is pure, do you hear me?
PURE!
P-U-R-E!

>> No.8894456

>>8894447
Post a related modern Jazz meistro then

>> No.8894458

Read the Birth of Tragedy plebbits

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8894467

>>8894456

>> No.8894472

>>8894467
Hmm... I accept Jazz now. This is from that drumming movie isn't it

>> No.8894609

>>8894472
Yeah Whiplash

>> No.8894622

SJWs will tell you that Rihanna and Beyonce have made bigger contributions to 21st century intellectual discourse than anyone discussed here

>> No.8894638

Opera is /lit/ music. Also classical. Anything imagined to be well-regarded by the elite is /lit/.

>> No.8894689

>>8894638

its rly gross how much this board craves the validation of others

>> No.8894695

>>8894689
I validate you for that cool assertion

>> No.8894698

>>8894345
No and who cares?

>> No.8894701

>>8894415
I agree anon

>> No.8894713

>>8894698
I do

>> No.8894723

>>8894453
colossal bait.
>>8894430 is right and >>8894416 is a complete shitpost
>no need to use images or words
so what? literature doesn't need to use images or sounds, visual arts don't need to use sounds or words. your point doesn't make any sense, idiot

>> No.8894763

>>8894723
It's not. It's a difference between apollinian and dionysius art

>> No.8894778

>>8894763
Bullshit dichotomy. Is Taxi Driver Apollonian or Dionysian?

>> No.8895232

>>8894778
?

>> No.8895655

>>8894345
As far as I remember, Nabokov said that music is something animal-tier.

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8895664

>>8894357
Anime is the purest form of art

>> No.8895675

>>8894723

Music is the only artform that is consistently non-mimetic.

Suck on that.

>> No.8895685

I listen to music less and less since i started reading.

>> No.8895690

>>8895655
Nabokov was infamous for having bad opinions

>> No.8895713

>>8895675
>vocals and lyrics aren't mimetic

>> No.8895722

>>8895713

Vocals and lyrics are, like opera, not real music, but music marred to make it more palatable for unmusical minds.

>> No.8895724

>>8895713
>listening to music with vocals and lyrics

>> No.8895729

>>8895675
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

You've been cucked hard, son

>> No.8895733

>>8894345
Not being able to appreciate other art forms is pleb

>> No.8895751

>I'm intellectually superior to other people because I lack the emotional capacity to be touched by a particular art form
The Thread

>> No.8895758

>>8895751

>I'm intellectually superior to other people because I lack the emotional capacity to be touched by a particular book

The Board.

>> No.8895761

>>8894345
Reading Hesse atm, and he faps to Mozart and Bach on every page

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8895769

>>8894345
We literature now.

>> No.8895789

>>8895758
>I'm intellectually superior to other people because I lack the emotional capacity to be touched by a particular aspect of reality

The Website

>> No.8895808

>>8895789
>I'm intellectually superior to other people because I lack the emotional capacity to stop busting balls to everyone by saying tons of horseshit

The Dickhead

>> No.8895855

>>8895808
>I'm intellectually superior to other people because I lack the emotional capacity to take a harmless joke

The You

>> No.8896062

>>8895808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJzNUydlQ4I

>> No.8896314

>>8895685

This

>> No.8896811

>>8894416
Why is communicating "directly" throgh sound somehow purer than through images?

>> No.8896873

>>8894345
>music
>pleb
>¿¿¿
>OP is pleb

>> No.8896880

>>8894357
and he did it again, the absolute madman
how is he always right?

>> No.8896925

>>8895655
Nabokov had amusia

>> No.8896937

If all the philosophers said music is pleb would you stop listening to it?

>> No.8896953

>>8894345

Jean-Jacques Rousseau was literally a composer himself.

>> No.8896972

>>8896811
Because you consider images °rationally°, but music you feel. The trick is the music, not sounds.

>> No.8896976

>>8896811
Images don't have the power to influence memories and emotions as quickly as sound, this is why music therapy is a thing and literature therapy or painting therapy isn't.

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>>8895722
>Vocals and lyrics are, like opera, not real music, but music marred to make it more palatable for unmusical minds.
w e w l a d

>> No.8897055

>>8895733
This.