/lit/ - Literature

Depends on what you mean by "fuck with your mind." Are you asking for something that's abstract and difficult to actually comprehend or are you looking for something that's more concrete but will deeply challenge your preconceptions?

>>8886226

>>8886226
What exactly do you want?
For example
Guns, Germs, and Steel - Will make you realise that people with 0 idea of what they are talking about publish books and influence the world enough to destroy the greatest civilization.

>>8886226
Bataille's Accursed Share

Occult and spiritual books.

>>8886244
epic meme my redpilled sir

>>8886226
The Bible

I do not say this from an atheistic perspective

Infinite Jest

1984 is a good start, it's really quite terrifying

>>8886238
something abstract and difficult to understand

>>8886241
Nah. As I Lay Dying did it better, I think. Then again, that's probably because I'm American.

>>8886367
The Dead Father by Donald Barthelme
The Blind Owl by Sadegh Hedayat
The Red Book by Carl Jung

>>8886226
Man's Search for Meaning

The Phenomenology of Spirit.

>>8886668
Hi Dav. Nobody is going to buy your book.

Finnegan's Wake

Hardcore Zen

>>8886226
anything by wittgenstein

Philip K Dick

>>8886244
I got that book from Christmas. I still smiled and said it's very interesting since it actually supports the point of our civilization being the greatest

>>8886416
The blind owl. What are you trying to do make him off himself

>>8886226
Sex and Character

>>8887623
site:reddit.com

>>8887623
top post in every single one of these is "House of Leaves"

>>8886241
How did it fuck with your mind? I thought its strenght lay in its relatability

>>8886244
>Will make you realise that people with 0 idea of what they are talking about publish books and influence the world enough to destroy the greatest civilizatio
For those who haven't read it, this statement is 100% true. The fact that people take this book as gospel and as a reason I should feel white guilt need to be slaughtered.

>>8886327
>terrifying
Why?

Solaris

>>8886238
I'll take the latter

>>8888082
>Dude, what if like, controlling the media makes you the controller of truth
>What if, like, that describes our civilization
>WOOAAAH

>>8886226

>>8888082
because it shows how people could become completely enslaved and dehumanized forever by not even a conscious human, but an idea that can never die.

>>8887623
There's nothing wrong with reddit.

>>8886367
>>8886226
1000 Plateaus is one of those books whose chapters can be read in any order. It's like hitting your mind with a stick, which has thousands of tiny holes in it, into which your mind seeps.

>>8888657
Orwell's thesis in 1984 is really more centered around the idea that an individual's cognition and perceptions can be manipulated through the strategic augmentation of the language which necessarily frames their every conscious thought. He just speculated on that concept's application as a form of covert political oppression on a large-scale alongside some other ancillary strategies that naturally follow from that core idea. So it's really not so much "lol government put fake news on the tv" as it is "lol government literally made it impossible for an individual to actively conceive of a worldview that deviates from the orthodox narrative"

>>8889948
Basically
>Dude, what if like, controlling the media makes you the controller of truth
>What if, like, that describes our civilization
>WOOAAAH

>>8889976
can you actually read the book? It's not supposed to be a criticism of contemporary society, if anything it's drawing parallels to the soviets. If anything it's thought provoking on how bad tyranny can possibly get, and that you should therefore be very wary of authoritarians, not matter how good their intentions seem.

>>8889986
Again,
>Dude, what if like, controlling the media makes you the controller of truth
>What if, like, that describes our civilization
>WOOAAAH

>Let's be wary

Yeah not exactly that thought provoking

>>8887633
SOME OF HTE TEXT IS UPSIDE DOWN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>8887623
"The Last Question"

>>8889976
>>8889998
No, you fucking idiot, it's:
>Dude, what if like, controlling the language makes you the controller of truth
The transmission of Ingsoc's narrative through media outlets is dependent on the manipulation of the language. The idea is that if an authoritarian power can properly frame the very vehicle by which one's own thoughts are produced (language), the false media narrative cannot even be questioned privately, it is not possible for an individual's mind to even generate the notion that the political power could be lying to them, much less formulate an alternative to the narrative. Additionally, it's purely speculative, it's not meant to describe our civilization. The issue isn't even that you're oversimplifying the book, you're entirely misinterpreting its core premise.

And you're right, it isn't that complex or wildly thought-provoking. That's precisely the reason why the fact that it flew over your head is so fucking baffling.

>>8890025
Cool, I was just quoting some guy, but thanks for the explanation.

The Notebook, the Proof, the Third Lie

>>8889986
Thing is we already call democracies to our representative republics, and many socialist parties are just social-democratic, and we call everything that we dislike nazi, etc

>>8886226

>>8887623

>>8890090

looks spoopy

>>8890090
The Green Face, too, is immersive and mind-bending.

>>8887544

Valis really fucked with me. Being a fellow schizo it was simultaneously frightening and comforting.

>>8888079
I have not read this and don't intend to. It is a rehash of history I know.

The only history you really need to know is the history of ancient Greece. If you read Herodotus on the war with Persia and Thucydides on the Peloponnesian war, everything else in history is simply a repetition of the same events with different actors.

The Median Dialogue is probably the single most rousing, concise and effective argument about international politics ever formed with two sides with genuine points a expressed philosophies.

"the strong take what they can and the weak endure what they must." There is no need for any further consideration in international affairs.

>>8886226
You'll either feel overwhelmingly empathetic or get your mind fucked. Perhaps, both.

Try "Entropy: A New World View" by Jeremy Rifkin and Ted Howard. It will make you feel sorry for the poor creatures whose universe is ruled by such cruel laws.
The mindfuck is that the poor creatures are the human race and the book is non-fiction, so you may feel a bit down after reading it. Exept if you don't dislike the idea to live a frugal life in the sticks, with fire as the most advanced technology.
It also offers an interesting perspective on society and history in general.

>>8886226
second and third critique

not memeing read it all