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Finally reading Notes from Underground. I've been avoiding it out of fear for some time, knowing the general premise and the Dostoevsky's characterization of the underground man. I just started Apropos of west Snow, and there's me, on the page, staring back. It's scary, /lit/. Anyone else share this feel? What hope is there for me if I identify with the narrator 100%? I'd like to think that my persistent desire not to be like him (like me) is what will (hopefully) allow me to change. I'm optimistic, but I have my doubts.

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>>8814194

>But enough; I don't want to write more from "Underground."
>[The notes of this paradoxalist do not end here, however. He could not refrain from going on with them, but it seems to us that we may stop here.]

>> No.8814219

>>8814194
Considering many people in the world are similar to the narrator you will probably be fine.

>> No.8814316

>>8814207

So the solution is to just stop thinking about it?

>> No.8814325

>>8814316
the solution is to give yourself wholly to the christian god

>> No.8814346

>>8814325

I desperately want to, but how is that anything else but a self-deception? I recognize that there's a sort of religious longing inherent in my personality, but I was raised in a secular family. Can people like this ever authentically adopt a religion?

>> No.8814403

>>8814346
You can be spiritual without being religious anon. That's the truly rational way.

Samharris.jpg :^)

>> No.8814466

>>8814403
Sam Harris is a fucking moron. Especially when it comes to his retarded form of """"""""""""""""spirituality"""""""""""

And before you say it, no I'm not religious.

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>>8814316
The solution is to read Ego and his Own. The underground man was caught in a paradox between his self interest and his spooky ideals. He badly needed Stirner to deconstruct his shit.

>> No.8815674

>>8814194
Hold up, is P&V translation of Notes from Underground actually good?

Let's settles this thing once and for all.

>> No.8815911

>>8815674
I think it's been generally accepted that whatever you decide to spend your time and/or money on is completely up to you; but from what I've gleaned from these threads, the Penguin and Oxford Russian translations are fairly competent and enjoyable, the P&V series is popular but clunky, Garnett and her enclave of revisionists and followers are pretty if a bit flawed.

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>>8814346
>but how is that anything else but a self-deception

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pic related

>> No.8816601

>>8814207
it continues in our diaries desu

>> No.8816623

Why is this work of Dostoevsky so discussed here? Is it only that popular on /lit/ or in the West in general? Idiot is far more popular where I live than Notes from the Underground.

>> No.8816634

>>8814194
Honestly. Pure shit.
No offense fag.