/lit/ - Literature

No. I'm not a mentally ill NEET weeb though, so there you go.

>>8797199
I read the savage detectives imagining everyone as animu characters
totally worth it desu

>>8797201
So you imagine 1:1 reality?

No, I imagine them as real humans, and I say this as someone who's seen 300+ animes

>>8797199
Its hard for me since when I watch cartoons I only see real people, I need to be reminded by friends which shows are live action or not

>>8797199
I do that whenever I read shitty Murakami because the characters are anime as fuck

>>8797199
>that op image
He'll show up any minute now...

>>>/irc/

>>8797356
Who?

>>8797383
>he doesn't know Barneyfag
dude's obsessed

I can imagine people just fine, but I really struggle to make environments that they fit into and make sense.

>>8797404
Completely wrong board and also not his thread.

>>8797404
I doubt he reads.

I imagine almost everything in black in white

>Not imagining characters as sock puppets
Plebs, the lot of you.

I only read light novels, so...

>>8797199
It's embarrassing to admit but I do

>>8797558
this

But sometimes I also imagine characters as animes and it sometimes works

Read moar. I found that, after the early experience of reading Shakespeare and the Nighttown section of Ulysses, it became very difficult to visualize things as anything other than a sort of enhanced stage play--the kind filmed for a wide release, where one may observe the action from several different angles, but it's still on a stage. And of course for poetry there is no strict way of visualizing it, because the imagery must shift with the sound of it. But I cannot fathom having a good book seem like a cartoon show to me.

I don't imagine much of anything.

>>8797199
Never in cartoons.

I do imagine rewrites or whole other stories going parallel.
Sometimes I make the character lesbian, imagine a romance with another perhaps. If the real story contradicts it, so what. It vanishes as easily as it came.

The parallel stories lately have been about a history professor. Sometimes she's teaching by reading from the book I am, sometimes she's narrating an educational film. In 2008 she became a character I invented to run for president in 2016. As this real 2016 unfolded, I kind of saw Sanders doing some of the things she had done. I wish I had been able to write it.
Hell, I wish it were real. She won of course. You'd like her.

>>8797558
The only book where this happened to me was Virgil's Aeneid. But that may have been because I was already exposed to the source epics, and Virgil's writing is relatively dull compared to homer.

>>8797199

I'm really bad at seeing characters basd on their description, so I always end up picturing an actor or a cartoon character that kinda looks like them (or doesn't look like them at all). For example, I imagine every protagonist from Doestovsky novels as either Keenu Reives or Adrian Brody.
as a side note:
>He still hasn't showed up
Barneyfag confirmed as illiterate

>>8797697

About midway though City of Theives I started imagining awful early 90's yaoi designs for the main characters.

Out of curiosity i looked up fanart of the two main characters...I wasnt disapointed.

When I read, I have to imagine characters as people from my life or from movies, pictures ect. I can't imagine a person based of words. Is this normal?

>>8799075
Etc. Not ect.

It's normal. You can make the characters look like anything you want.

>>8797199
I imagined the Iliad as anime-esque desu

>>8797199
Reading books for me is basically just imagining films. I cast the characters, I imagine the camera angles and the theatrical speech patterns

I don't really visualise them much at all. The characters are more like ideas than people in my head.

>>8797199

What do you mean by "imagining" when you read? I thought imagination was just a metaphor, do you actually have visual hallucinations? Am I the only one who doesn't see visual hallucinations when reading?

>>8797199
It depends on the tone of the story and whether the cover art depicts the characters in a certain way. I imagined the Great Gatsby in a very 1920's pin up artstyle and Of Mice and Men in watercolor.

>>8799113
>visual hallucinations
Visualizing something in your head does not mean you are having a hallucination, it just means you have a functioning brain. Do you honestly not try to visualize a scene in your head when you read? Like, if the author is describing some majestic landscape, or a character's bedroom, or some fortified military installation, do you just let the words wash over you without trying to visualize the scene?

I'm genuinely asking, and I was also trying to not use the word "imagine" since you yourself said you don't know what it means.

>>8799151

How is "visualizing" not the same as having a hallucination? You're describing an act of seeing things that you aren't really seeing in objective reality.

>try to visualize a scene in your head

I don't see how that's possible. You would either have a hallucination or you wouldn't, and I don't have hallucinations.

>Like, if the author is describing some majestic landscape, or a character's bedroom, or some fortified military installation, do you just let the words wash over you

What do you mean by "wash over you?" If I read words that tell me information like the size of a landscape and its color or whatever then I'll remember that information. I don't magically see a landscape in front of me by reading words about a landscape though.

>>8799184
>How is "visualizing" not the same as having a hallucination?
Honest question:
Do you have aspergers?

>>8799206

>Do you have aspergers?

No, although psychiatry is bullshit anyway and their diagnoses aren't really indicative of anything other than the fact someone showed up to a psychiatrist's office and talked about the latest big pharma commercial they saw on TV.

>>8799206
>>8799217

Also, answer the question. How is it different?

I've started imagining Achilleus Peleides as looking like Oscar François de Jarjayes.

>>8797199
Most of my interaction comes through video games and anime, so picturing my mental avatars of characters in anime style is only natural.

>>8799224
In short its an experiencial illusion not a visual illusion. You have the emotional and mental response to the sights without actually seeing anything

>>8799224
A hallucination is usually onset by drugs or mental illness, visualization is is kind of like imagining it. Not him, but that's what my take is on it.

>>8799289

>You have the emotional and mental response to the sights without actually seeing anything

That's what I thought originally, that it's just a metaphor and people don't really see things when they read.

>>8799292
A hallucination is when you think you're seeing through your eyes something that isn't there.
A visualization is when you think in your mind of what something you aren't seeing would look like.

I imagine the main character as myself and immediately drop the book whenever he does something that I wouldn't do because its breaking character.

>>8797199
Not really, but one time i could not stop imagining Cathy from Eden of Eden as pic related

>>8799151
I do not visualize when I read, and I get stronger emotional response from written fiction than live action movies (but not as strong as anime).

>>8799151
>>8799292
>>8799289

Guys, it's possible >>8799113 lacks the ability to visualize images, and so is confusing imagining with hallucinations.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-34039054

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia

I like to read Blood Meridian and imagine all the characters as care bears

>>8797199
Yeah, I try to mix it up with different painting styles and with photo realism. Whatever sparks your imagination.

>>8799941

lol, that must be one of the shittiest living situations possible. I would kill myself if I didn't have the ability to imagine things desu.

>>8797199
It happened to me when I was reading the Iliad

Now I want an Iliad jap cartoon

>>8799113
I don't visualize either. I don't find it helps. Descriptions are never enough so anything i come up with never actually seems to fit the text. Just takes me out of it.