/lit/ - Literature

>>8759693
Is this an attempt at a koan? Like you haven't read one so it isn't real?

>>8759693
>I have never read my immortal
Kek

No motivation to. They can receive love, resources and validation simply by existing

does she have a penis?

>>8759698
Are there any?

>>8759700
Hardly a masterpiece.

Flannery O'Connor is the greatest short story writer of the last century, so.

Would also argue To the Lighthouse is pretty gud

>>8759693
>Why hasn't a woman written a masterpiece yet?

their inferior

>>8759714
>>8759725
Please stop trolling. You think these books are comparable to Ulysses?

>>8759739

Is Ulysses the only masterpiece? Is the thread meant to be "why hasn't a woman written Ulysses"?

>>8759743
No there are a few others, all written by men.

>>8759701
this desu, just a plain simple fact, not any burger whining. The world is how it is.

>>8759693
It might already be out there, but no one will notice.

>>8759693
Jane Eyre?
Pride and Prejudice?
Wuthering Heights?

>>8759767
Get real.

>>8759739
>morale-less prose wankfest, perhaps save for "life is an advebture"
I legit thought Joyce was a women until I lurked here.

>>8759773
I'm not arguing about the quality of the books. But they are considered classics.

Also, Middlemarch.

>>8759787
Did I ask for undergraduate tripe or for masterpieces?

>>8759693
Anon there is a reason why we have
NBA and WNBA,
Chess Championship and Women's Chess Championship.
So on and so forth with every aspect of competitions and life.

All the libcucks get pissed about women not being able to compete so we have to create all these fake leagues where women can compete with eachother at their own level.
Women were made from a rib.

Having a vagina excuse you of ever working hard and try to be the best at something

>>8759784
>I thought a man named James was a woman

>>8759791
"Only the books I consider to be masterpieces are masterpieces."

Spoken like a true pleb.

>>8759809
Harry Potter is a masterpiece. Congrats, a woman has written a masterpiece.

You can leave this thread now, idiot.

>>8759800
The very fact you had to put "a man named" there feeds into his point.

Jamie/Seamie is a v common nongendered name in Ireland, plus Ashleigh's like a boy's name!!!!!

>>8759750

Tell me why To the Lighthouse or The Waves isn't a masterpiece, then. For reasons other than ironic? misogyny

>>8759739
Middlemarch is better than Ulysses, objectively.
The Waves is better than Ulysses, in my opinion

>>8759784
>>8759800
I actually thought this too.
I think my brain just got the wires crossed with Joyce Carol Oates.

>>8759816
>>8759784
You need to go back

>>8759814
Dude, honestly, suck my dick. The novels I listed are largely considered classics by the world community and are taught at universities all around the world.

Also, did I mention you can suck my dick?

>>8759822
To where you're from?

>>8759823
>can't name a masterpiece written by a woman
>s-suck my dick univeristies cover these books!

>>8759700
underrated

>>8759829
>can't name a masterpiece written by a woman
I did. I mentioned like 4 novels and could've gone on.

women are too busy enjoying themselves then marrying some man who love to please them

>>8759834
You mentioned 4 mediocre "classics" that undergraduates drool over.

>>8759829
>univeristies
Can't even spell right. Do you even English language, bro?

>>8759843
>that undergraduates drool over
I think you're confusing like with study. They're regularly assigned texts in academic settings.

>>8759843
>You mentioned 4 mediocre "classics" that undergraduates drool over
>unlike ULYSSES
hearty fuk'n kek

Well, Ume-sensei wrote Hidamari Sketch.

>>8759850
Fuck off I studied English in collage

>>8759843
Who says they're mediocre? You?

In that case, I think I should mention that I don't two shits about your opinion.

They count as classics, deal with it, cuck.

Can someone with a grad degree in trolling explain to me the effectiveness of these threads?

>>8759859
You fuck off. I liked Martin Luther's ass crack after John Calvin blew me.

See how easy this is?

>>8759859
Also:
>"collage"
>kek

>>8759866
Thanks for sharing.

>>8759861
To Kill a Mockingbird is a "classic" with hardly any literary merit, like the books you listed.

Stop posting anytime honey, you are embarrassing yourself.

but only staceys manage to pull it off

Flannery O'Connor is as another anon said, the greatest short story writer in the last century. If anyone thinks Dubliners is a masterpiece, well, then a woman has written one as it's better than Dubliners.

The only good thing about ironic women hate threads is that Flannery O'Connor is slowly becoming very popular here. Thank you, based women haters.

>>8759877
Oh, shit, I forgot: are you now the arbiter of what has literary merit? Did the Flying Spaghetti Monster appoint you as such and I just didn't get the memo?

You're the one who's embarrasing yourself, kiddo.

>>8759886
Wow this really made me think. Maybe I am too dumb to understand the subtle brilliance of Harry Potter, after all my malformed male brain could never grasp the genius of womyn writers.

>>8759894
We're not talking about Harry Potter.

Try again, sweetie. Even a broken clock is eventually right twice a day.

>>8759902

NOT IF THE HANDS ARE OFF THE FACE YOU FUCKING NIMROD

>>8759864
What's the source ? Random graphics are useless without a proper source. Also lmaoing at 'general intelligence'

Masterpiece by what metric?

Harry Potter is the most sold book series of all time, and it's written by a woman.

Don't tell me having a net worth of 1 billion dollars doesn't mean anything.

>>8759902
Harper Lee is no more talented than JK Rowling, as >>8759914 points out she is significantly worse by his metric.

>>8759914
>Don't tell me having a net worth of 1 billion dollars doesn't mean anything.

It doesn't. It just means she started a successful franchise

Harry Potter is decent but that isn't a metric of masterpiece. Otherwise schoppys mum would still be famous

>>8759930
>It just means she started a successful franchise
>It just means

Yeah, lets see you do it. You make it sound like creating a billion dollar franchise requires zero artistic or literary merit.

because when women try to be independent, males always try to make them miserable

>>8759939

Please tell me where in what I wrote that I said anyone could do it or that it was easy? I merely stated the fact that she created a billion dollar franchise.

illiterate trash

Middlemarch
The Waves

>posting in a bait thread

Oh you guys!

>>8759930
>>Don't tell me having a net worth of 1 billion dollars doesn't mean anything.
>She made a billion dollars
>UHNUH LETS SEE YOU DO IT IF YOU THINK ITS THAT EASY

Woolf>Joyce

Only an uncultured swine would claim that no woman has ever written a masterpiece. Read more, then come back.

>>8760029
Me and Pepe disagrees!

>>8759960
>>8759930
>>8759914
>>8759939
Harry Potter... a masterpiece? I hope you die slow and in agony.
The guy who created Minecraft is worth a billion. Is Minecraft a masterpiece?
Harry Potter is one of the worst books ever written. This is not opinion, either. Objectively, this is truth.

What the fuck does money have to do with anything? Many authors died in poverty, you stupid fuck.

Why are you even on this board?

>>8760091
>This is not opinion, either. Objectively, this is truth.

>>8760097
bet your a woman who thinks with her feels fact is women are inferior. disagree, and you disagree with objective reality but that's what contienental leftist cultural marxist talmudic satanic frankist lizardian communist computer-God globalist Judaic socialist liberals ACTUALLY think.

>>8760097
Nice meme, mate. Come back when you have anything worthwhile to contribute at all. In the meantime, you should seriously think about killing yourself.

>>8760104
This is obviously bait, but women are genuinely inferior when it comes to producing masterful works of art.
Or was it all because "they were held down for like, so long, dude"

>>8760111
It wasn't bait, I agree. Women have never been 'held down', they've been held in accordance with their nature in the home where they belong. They shouldn't be included in art but stay in the kitchen and take care of their man

>>8760111
Of course dude, that's why the Russians never made any good literature, centuries of poverty and oppressive serfdom

>>8759714
Yeah not at all
She's mediocre

>>8760091

sup memelord
maybe you should read what you are quoting

>>8759841
>ketch rig
Disgusting

>>8760116
Yes, this was my point.

>>8760125
I know, I replied to all of you fucks discussing Harry Potter and the Pile Of Shit to open up the discussion. There was no memeing

>>8759693
Not many people have written "objective" masterpieces.

But there are quite great female writers out there. Dickinson is good (inb4 meme) H.D. is one of my favourite poets, and I cant help but admire the cartographic mastery of Bishop.

>>8760147
Pepe says 'no'

>>8760154
I love the frog from the bottom of my squalid heard, but this is not his place to be.

>>8759693
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein

>>8759734
nice one

>>8760168
Written by her husband

Pepe confirms

>>8759693
Mansfield Park
Yes, is on par with Ulysses.

>>8759693
Yuru Yuri is written by a woman tho

>>8760091
>Is Minecraft a masterpiece?
Yes.

>>8760237
This Pepe is not amused by your roastwhore opinion

>>8759693

Neither for music, nor for poetry, nor for fine art have they any real or true sense and susceptibility, and it is mere mockery on their part, in their desire to please, if they affect any such thing.

This makes them incapable of taking a purely objective interest in anything, and the reason for it is, I fancy, as follows. A man strives to get direct mastery over things either by understanding them or by compulsion. But a woman is always and everywhere driven to indirect mastery, namely through a man; all her direct mastery being limited to him alone. Therefore it lies in woman’s nature to look upon everything only as a means for winning man, and her interest in anything else is always a simulated one, a mere roundabout way to gain her ends, consisting of coquetry and pretence. Hence Rousseau said, "Les femmes, en général, n’aiment aucun art, ne se connoissent à aucun et n’ont aucun génie" (Lettre à d’Alembert, note xx.).

Nothing different can be expected of women if it is borne in mind that the most eminent of the whole sex have never accomplished anything in the fine arts that is really great, genuine, and original, or given to the world any kind of work of permanent value.

And Huarte, in his book which has been famous for three hundred years, Examen de ingenios para las scienzias, contends that women do not possess the higher capacities. Individual and partial exceptions do not alter the matter; women are and remain, taken altogether, the most thorough and incurable philistines; and because of the extremely absurd arrangement which allows them to share the position and title of their husbands they are a constant stimulus to his ignoble ambitions. And further, it is because they are philistines that modern society, to which they give the tone and where they have sway, has become corrupted. As regards their position, one should be guided by Napoleon’s maxim, Les femmes n’ont pas de rang; and regarding them in other things, Chamfort says very truly: Elles sont faites pour commercer avec nos faiblesses avec notre folie, mais non avec notre raison. Il existe entre elles et les hommes des sympathies d’épiderme et très-peu de sympathies d’esprit d’âme et de caractère. They are the sexus sequior, the second sex in every respect.

>>8760250
Yeah yeah, but it isn't.

>>8759816
>Jamie/Seamie is a common non gendered name

Where the fuck might I ask are you from in Ireland spouting that horseshit

>>8759767
This would prove that women are incapable of crafting a masterpiece, if anything.

>>8759866
are you actually this dense?

>>8759947
A white knights armour shouldn't be this blinding

>>8759693
I respect Guin Saga as a solid piece of literature.

>>8760268
and this opinion is why we have to put up with bullshit lesbo writers instead of paying attention to heteros that probably write miles more relatable stuff to most readers.

Sasha gray been there done that.

>>8760285
>angry Irish roleplayer appears
Come on now. Jamie isn't even specific to Ireland.

>>8759822
We're in /lit/ bruh, I think you might have missclicked.

>>8760120
Found the salty protestant. Don't worry, you'll have your moment of divine grace one day.

>>8760111
>"This is obviously bait"
>gos on to to bait obviously

>>8760474
It wasn't bait. Prove me wrong if you believe otherwise.

>>8760255
I understand that you pretending to hate women is funny but can you stop fucking the corpse of /lit/?
The board's been rotting for a while so your cock is probably smothered in weird necro-born stds. it's not healthy.

>>8760484
'genuinely' is just as fedora tippy a word as 'objectively', and so your post was just a nicer flavor of edgy, 'enlightened,' le-ebin-redditor bait. it's also subtler bait than the memelord you were replying too, but that's why you replied to it, to make your bait seem more bite-able through comparison.

>>8759693
>Who is J.K Rowling?

>>8759700
The song is pretty good

>>8760029
Woolf is good but not better than Joyce

>>8759773
>dumb frogposter

>>8760519
Oh yes, you're so enlightened. Genuinely is most definitely a "meme" word now. An anonymous virgin on the internet confirmed it. If you use it, you're automatically wear a fedora, don't you know?

Fucking kill yourself, you insufferable cunt.

>>8760582
>Woolf is good

cuck

>>8759883
Am I suposed to be laughing at her?
>try row across the pacific
>instead of trying my luck against adverse weather conditions I do the sensible thing and call for rescue
Seems like a level-headed course of action, I mean her idea was completely bogus from the get go but she had enough sense to call it off when she had to

Shocking lack of Le Guin in here. Sci-fi wouldn't be what it is now without her.

Forgetting someone?

>>8759693

Women don't pursue goals, they are goals themselves.

>>8759817
Woolf is so middle-brow.

>>8759700
>https://youtu.be/cu7QvOQKcKk
more like masterpiss innit

>>8760208
He wrote some shitty, shitty letter that bookend a great novel, but otherwise no.
>>8761770
lol, there is maybe three writer that are high brow then.

>>8759784
>FEMALES
>ARE
>LITERALLY
>RAAAAAAAAAAPED

>moral

>>8759818
Middlemarch is awful,

>>8759851
Academia is a joke.

>>8761781
>lol, there is maybe three writer that are high brow then.
Her own definition of middle-brow perfectly describes her work. I don't think I've ever seen a better case of projection.

>>8761790

>>8761800
No, but dickens is.