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>Dostoievskii.
>Dostoevski.
>Tolstoi.
>Tolstoj.

Why do people purposely butcher the names of great Russian authors?

>> No.8721582

For a good solid year I went around saying Mitt Romskj. No one bothered to correct me

>> No.8721585

Seems silly.
Anyone know why?
Guess not...
Everyone cares.

>> No.8721586

>>8721575
All attempts at romanization of Russian/Cyrillic have been unsatisfying.

>> No.8721588

>>8721582
kek

>> No.8721593

Дocтoéвcкий, [dəstɐˈjɛfskʲJj] or don't bother desu

>> No.8721595

>>8721575
>Tolstoj
It's literally Tolstoj, you retard.

t. Russian citizen

>> No.8721599

>/lit/ doesn't spell Dostoyevsky with the y

this always triggered me, but i never bothered to mention it

>> No.8721600

>>8721575
because the j and the w make a different sound in english. it's better than having idiots walking around saying dostodgooski and tolstodg

>> No.8721601

>>8721593
I am studying Cyrillic to learn Persian-Tajik and that is literally Daastaayevski

>> No.8721607

>>8721601
The double As being the long a vowel like in car.

>> No.8721611

>>8721601
pretty sure you're trolling and that's a finnish word without the umlauts

>> No.8721614

>>8721575
>Toлcтóй
TOLSTOJ

>Toлcтoи
TOLSTOI

He was actually called Tolstoj, you bydlo.

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8721615

>>8721595
Wrong.

>> No.8721621

>>8721614
What are you talking about? Й just makes it the diphthong Oy like when you guys say oy vey or the diphthong in oil.

>> No.8721623 [DELETED] 

>>8721611
He's writing it like it is pronounced. The "O" is only pronounced as an "O" if it is a tonic syllable and since the tonic syllable is in the YE in DostoYEskij.

>> No.8721626

>>8721611
No, I am just trying to phonetically spell it out. Daa-staa-yev-ski

>> No.8721632 [DELETED] 

>>8721615
>>8721621
Let me tell you about your language.png

Also, one of you retards really stand out.

The letter Й is soft vowel that exists in certain conditions.

>diphthong
Just leave.

>> No.8721636

>>8721626
That's what I said. You're writing the word as it is pronounced correctly. Also, I don't get the double "a". Are you trying to be funny?

>> No.8721637

>>8721601
>>8721607
Learning IPA would be worthwhile as it will stop you being wrong at times like this. The first o in Дocтoéвcкий is [ə], the a in car is [ɑ].

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8721639

>>8721575

hearing people bitch about their shitty countries language or names being mispronounced by English speakers is so fun given that the anglozone has adapted to the spat of foreigners so much that you could get every vowel and consonant wrong and we'll still understand you

native english speakers correct foreign words more than english ones not just because of political correctness but also because they've forgotten how to pronounce their own proper nouns and vowels

>> No.8721641

>>8721575
Blame the subhuman Portuguese

>> No.8721645

>>8721639
aboo hoo hoo my culture is becoming obsolete.

>> No.8721647

>>8721639
He's an anglo, you dipshit. He's just trying to be a pretentious twat who thinks he's above the rest of /lit/.

>> No.8721656

>>8721636
No, when I latinize Persian vowels I use double a for long and one a for short. Sorry, just the way I use to remember.

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>>8721641
Someone got butthurt. Pic related, bitch.

>> No.8721665

>>8721575
>makes one of these dumbass threads over differences in romanization
a more worthy thread died for this

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>>8721656
Yeah, but this is Russian we're talking about.

>> No.8721677

>>8721641
Also, after me demolishing you in these posts:

>>8721661
>>8721668

I hope never seeing you bitching around again.

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>>8721575

>> No.8721688

>>8721668
Dude, I have been studying this alphabet for two weeks now, I can't believe you have the gall to correct me on a language I'm not even learning.

>> No.8721691

>>8721677
did my shitpost just get protoshitposted?

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>>8721691
>I was merely pretending to be retarded
Sure you were.

>> No.8721699

>>8721696
good luck, I'm behind seven layers of irony

>> No.8722086

It's Dostojevskij and Tolstoj you plebs, 'y' should be reserved for 'ы'.

>> No.8722132

>>8722086
What about ю?

>> No.8722275

>>8722132
ю = ju

>> No.8722354

>fjodor dostojevski
>leo tolstoi

there

>> No.8722365

>>8722354
No, you spergmachine. It's Fjodor Dostojevskij and Ljev Tolstoj.

>> No.8722386

>not being a cool kid and calling him Dosto

>> No.8722636

I've been reading crime and punishment and it's making me feel stupid. Is it supposed to be a critique of the ubermensch theory?
In that men retain human limitations as raskolnikov struggles with his fever and emotional hubris, and cannot attain full autonomy of his actions and ideas.

>> No.8723343

>>8722275
Oh yeah mean it's pronounced exactly like the word "you"? With y as a consonant and a long ooo sound? Fuck of, J is the same as Y. Why else would Sarajevo be pronounced as Sarayevo?

>> No.8723432

>not Dostoievski

>> No.8723476

its Dostejewski you idiots like
Do sto yee vski

>> No.8723486

>>8721575
Because it's not Latin script and there are different ways to transliterate it

>Ἀριστοτέλης
>Aristotle
>Aristoteles
>Aristotelis