/lit/ - Literature

It's just the musings of an immature damaged individual.

Even his own mother recognizes this.

>>8688054
There is nothing more pathetic than an ugly sexually undesirable male.

They are utterly vile and disgusting. Are there any books that go to great length to ridicule and berate the pathetic nature of the kind of people who browse /r9k/?

>>8688062
>women
>capable of having valid opinions

>>8688070
>t. unloved frog man

>>8688054
Time for sexy communism

Houellebecq is not as ugly as he makes out, certainly not when he was young. I get the feeling that photographers began to play it up and now that he's 60 he is finally becoming a old French uggo. Houellebecq argues that now that sexuality exists in a liberal market, like money, it has a tendency toward inequality, as markets always do. This is to some degree borne out by statistics (the one about 20% of guys on OkCupid being contacted by 80% of women comes to mind), but naturally one can read it as the moanings of an r9k-dweller.

>>8688078
Even just making adultery illegal again would solve the problem. But it won't happen, we can't go backwards, only forwards until the entire degenerate system collapses in on itself. The only problem is human civilization will not survive this collapse and there are not enough easily accessible resources left on the world to re-industrialize to the degree which is required for making the move to an interplanetary civilization.

>>8688133
Thank god, end the suffering

>>8688054
>I really don't have anything interesting to say.

t. le upset frog

>>8688062
>ad hominem when the message can't be refuted

classic sjw

>>8688135
No, I want to take human suffering to new heights. Given that Earth is quite close to the upper limit of planetary mass which can be escaped by chemical propulsion driven rockets it is quite likely that we will be among the most physically powerful sapient races in the galaxy which is probably why aliens come to check out our DNA all of the time. They're just 'mirin our sick gainz.

>>8688133
Acceleration time, come on!

>>8688146
>faggot conman

I think he is right but I think without economic liberalism people would have the time and means to improve themselves to a degree that makes them sexually desirable.

>>8688054
>sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money
false. sex an money are tied, especially through
-lifting for average men
-surgery for average women and men

>>8688181
>Face and neck different colours.
>Attractive.
Fucking kek.

To be clear, it is very difficult for a woman to create characteristics on a man wrt a promise of good sex.
The size of the cock matters to women through
-the small size, which clearly no woman loves
-the thick cock, which women loves
A woman also knows that men loving to perform, men love be complimented on their performances as well as to hear that they have bigger cocks than her previous lovers
-the long cocks, which women loves to think that they could handle and seems exotic

The clues coming with a man about financial wealth are more deterministic than the size of the cock, because the size is clearly and advantage, but there is no evidence, through the size, about the ability of the man to make the woman cum without effort.

So yeah. women have easier access to sex, but most men are not much endowed and even the few who have thick cocks do not perform well, in short or mid term, because they think a fat cock is enough. Thank god for women
-that most women get orgasms from their clitoris
-that most men, irrespective of their physique or social background, love to eat pussy

>>8688054

its obvious that some people are much better socially than others and enjoy the benefits of that, which there are ,compared to not being good socially

>>8688202
this post is trash

>>8688269

Nicely disguised roll anon. Unlucky on the result, though.

>>8688133
>Even just making adultery illegal again would solve the problem. But it won't happen, we can't go backwards, only forwards until the entire degenerate system collapses in on itself.

I don't see any reason why we're locked into an inevitable collapse and that we can't "go backwards" when we clearly have on some other things, at least socially if not legally. I've read feminist arguments for the elimination of no-fault divorce, critical race theory arguments for the segregation of different races, and of course you can look at how the right to privacy has been eroded by governments (and now big data companies) since the highpoint of liberal individualism in the 60s and early 70s.

>>8688181
Is the second pic meant to be more attractive than the first? Good god what is wrong with Americans?

>>8688202
Roll

>>8688218
Yeah. Most people don't really argue against it, they just say that it's pathetic to be a sexual failure or to talk about this stuff. A few may disagree, if they're young, well connected, and browse only tamer parts of the internet, but it's readily apparent that some people are funnier, smarter, more confident, and more attractive than others.

>>8688150
Kek

>>8688202
In fact, to determine which men are good in bad, instead of just being good entertainer outside of bed, women rely on gossip with other women. This is their strength and they cannot stop talking about sex and size of cocks.

also rolling

>>8688181
he shouldn't have skipped leg day.

houellebecq is right about everything

>>8688054
Seems like a fairly uncontroversial statement, and I'm one of those fags with women hanging all over me. The world would be better off if we went back to marriage.

He is totally right. The proponents of liberal sexuality are no different than boogeyman capitalists of the left. They are on top of the pile (or at the very least have made it) and they want to make sure they keep their position and keep those they think of as undeserving out.

>>8688459
>and I'm one of those fags with women hanging all over me.
what women talk about when they are around you?

>>8688054
He meant that his writing is garbage to the point that it's so compartmentalized that you could pick any point up and read it like a twitter feed

bump

>>8692000
>SwedishPhotographer
Holy kek, the memes are true.

>>8688169
Dangerous Faggot conman and first apostle of the church of Harambe. Use our lord and Savior's full title.

>>8688202
rollan

>>8688320
>>8688350
ah losers

>>8690604
Depends on the woman. Most women, like most men, are dumb and have dumb, superficial interests and perspectives on just about everything. But there's a sliding scale and the higher intelligent women have genuine original thoughts. The biggest insight I've had though from flirting with women is that they're basically the same as men except that's they are weaker, more entitled, more in need of socialization and approval and therefore more insecure, and more responsible/rule following than men.

>>8688202
roollin

>>8688181
First pic is far more attractive. I say this as a bisex.

>>8688150
Wouldn't that just mean we're tiny assholes? Like you'd grow taller, on a smaller planet. Avatar did it.

>>8688054
He meant "I've spent so much time struggling to get laid that i've put entirely too much thought into it."

>>8692437
Maybe he did exactly that, but is also right.

>>8688054
I'm not someone who browses /lit/ very often, but what that quote seems perfectly understandable and agreeable. There's more to the "sexual liberalism" or "sexual system" that he discusses. It's a fair base to work from though.

>>8692636

>>8694286

>>8688202
a long cock is good for anal, which women love when done right

>>8688202

>>8688202

The importance of dick size is such a meme. You can have a slightly smaller than average dick and still "get away with it". They will notice, of course, but won't have any problems with fucking you. When it comes to making women cum, your hands and tongue are way more important.

The only people I pity because of their dick size are men with micropenis, because to them, vaginal/anal sex is basically impossible.

>>8688202
Rorr

>>8695887
>dicklets actually believe this
I hope you're into being demeaned by women if your member is under 7".

>>8688131
>Houellebecq is not as ugly as he makes out
Yes he is.

Keep in mind that in a sexually liberal/female selection society, any man that is not 8/10 or above is ugly.

>>8696993
>Lookism.com
How much of an uggo do you have to ne to create such a website?

>>8697027
sub-8.

>>8697041
Either I'm way more sexy that I think, either you are really retarded

>>8697078
post pics, I am expert

>>8688070
>opinions
>capable of being valid

>>8697078
phone isn't working, sorry lad.
My point still stands ; Most of the guy I know get laid and are not models.

>>8688202
I love you Natalie

>>8688062
>his own mother
The whole country -even his enemies- recognized she was a horrible person when she started to reach out and gave interviews. I think she even tried writing a book.
Anyways she practically confirmed she was the egocentric hippie cow he described her as in Atomised.
Look it up.

>>8688202
Fuck. Rolling.

>>8698820
>:^(
Women are evil. Houellebecq is right.

Everday I find it harder not to be misogynistic or even misanthropic in general. I absolutely despise /r9k/ but find myself identifying with them more and more.

Somebody help.

>>8699044
Step 1. Read Tolstoi.
Step 2. Stop overevaluating sex or material life in general.

>>8699061
What Tolstoi book do you recommend?

>>8699088
Anna Karenina.

Leftists want a regulated market in economics, where they aren't competitive, but a free market in sexuality, where they are competitive.

Typical of hypocrites.

>>8699044
there is no help except deluding yourself. /r9k/ is pretty much correct and you'd have to be willfully blind to deny it. probably your only hope is embracing religion/asceticism if it really bothers you.

>>8699100
I'm atheist though.

>>8699150
Try yoga. I'm not joking.

>>8699150
Get into Zen.

>>8699044
This. I have tried to ironically distance myself from /pol/ and /r9k/ way of viewing the world but I increasingly find myself evaluating everything in terms of "cucks" and nu-males and so on. I can't get that shit out of my head. Do I have to leave 4chan forever to cleanse myself?

>>8699177
The memes are going to slowly reach into the rest of the world in one way or another.
The best you can do is work through the dialectic

>>8699154
>>8699172
???

>>8699177
Yes man. Or at least reduce the unhealthy amount of its negative input. Also try taking acid or shrooms, this will clean out a lot of the shit you've been clogging your vision with. Not kidding. Read up on psychedelics, if you must, but try it. Helped me a lot.

>>8699177
I'm the guy you quoted, and fortunately I've managed to distance myself very far from /pol/ by now (I used to be sucked into it like all the other losers that still use it) but the /r9k/ is creeping up on me now.

>>8699223
Do you simply avoid reading /pol/?

>>8699230
Ofcourse, but I also find myself distancing myself ideologically more and more from it. Zizek, despite his meme status, actually helped me a lot.

>>8699186
What's not to get here?

>>8699256
Why would joga or zen cure my misantrophy?

>>8688133
Adultery doesn't need to become illegal. Houellebecq is commenting on a moral collapse. Without some sort of sexual morality we get rampant promiscuity which leads to that rule where basically 20℅ of men are doing 80℅ of all the fucking. It's really easy to see what happens because it is happening: men dropping out of the competition and becoming a weight on the society that has rejected them through a process of extreme sexual liberation.

We can't regulate sexuality through legal or even economic means but through a collective morality. Under which most people follow the rules, but you're still free to break them.

>>8699338
How can I join the 20%?

>>8699356
Have 80% of these traits:
tall, good looking, charming, hygienic, fit, rich, intelligent, extroverted, funny, etc.

You may see this as unfair but it's nature. Women are the sexually selective sex.

>>8699322
Yoga makes you accept that there are things you can't change or control and at the same time shows you there are many things you can. Really any form of meditation helps you get some distance to the things that occupy your mind.
Try it out.

>All the nu-males ITT

Chad here, let me spell it out for you.

Sexually speaking, what we perceive to be progress is actually a regression. Monogamy was an advance because it extended the ideals of sex and family to more than just a few. It 'democratized' these things.

Without it, what you have is a society that imitates the harem - the top 10% of males have full rights to the top 10% of females. Meanwhile for the remaining 90% of mediocre males and females, they are either forced to 'settle' and/or endure a life of sexual/existential dissatisfaction/crises. This seething mass of ressentiment is invariably forced to either 'settle' or live a solitary life.

This is dangerous and won't end well. Just a heads-up bros.

>>8688150
>No, I want to take human suffering to new heights.

>>8699389
what kinda meditation you recommend senpai

>>8699322

Not the guy you asked, but Zen -as yoga, I suppose- teaches you detachment from the things that don't actually really matter in your life. It has a lot to do with realizing death and the direction of attention.
You will simply care less about stuff that isn't really important while gaining more focus and find more joy in things that don't depend on others.

>>8699391
>chad on 4chan
i don't buy it

if you're so popular and sexually occupied why would you be here

>>8699409
I learned some of the more traditional stuff some time back and still practice that, but I have read some Deepak Chopra recently and I'd say he taps into most of the things I find basic without adding too much modern/personal interpretations. So maybe try getting into that?
I also recommend reading the Yoga sutra by Patanyali. It's probably not too easy to access though (depending on the translation as well I guess) and you should probably read it along with actual practice by a teacher.

>>8699391
You are incorrect, if there was ever such a thing as perfect monogamy top 10% of males would get top 10% of females, otherwise in hypergamy top 10% of males get top 90% of women

>>8688054
you can pay for as much sex as you want, it's not expensive

what he actually wants is emotional intimacy

>>8699424
Oops, meant to write polygamy instead of hypergamy

>>8688054

I liked Houellebecq here, his critique on it. But he has embraced this instead of actively combatting it.

In his works, his protagonists all sound like a North American 4chan sociopath who reduces everything in life to PUSSY AND ACHIEVEMENTS when he goes on these types of rants.

>>8699409

Try Vipassana meditation, pham

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipassan%C4%81

>>8688202
rolling, i have a nice dick tbqh

>>8696993
houellebecq makes himself uglier on purpose though

look at this shit

nobody forces him to have that hair

>>8692338

How the fuck do you even tolerate dumb women around you?
How can you invest your time, attention and your cool in situations like that?

>>8688131
>>8696993
>>8699451
Man, he aged like milk.

>>8699451
>>8699460
What the fuck happened to him? Drugs?

>>8699460
he looks about the same, it's just his stupid haircut

>>8688054
>>8699469

>>8688133

I really hope we can invent a type of AI to a level that it can self-replicate and survive without its carbon based creator.
I truly want intelligence to persist in this dead world. And I truly hope the few among us can liberate that element of ours, away from the chimps we are most of the time and will most likely devolve into.

>>8699472
>he looks about the same
He does not. Look at the nose. He also looks like he has lost his teeth.

>>8699469

Cigarettes. If his self-depiction in the map and the territory is in any way true, add alcoholism and crippling depression to the mix.

I think honestly it's mostly the hair that is just so fucked. It's so brittle and disgusting it throws the entire impression of him off. His skin is terrible, sure, but not that bad in itself.

>>8699469
he had a reverse nosejob
it's where they make it bigger not smaller

>>8699469
>>8699485
It's probably the smoking; I imagine two packs a day is probably a minimum for him.

>>8688133
The law can't replace a common system of morality.

>>8688171
You can't dissociate economic liberalism from other forms of liberalism.

Is he dare I say it, red pilled?

You have to remember Houellebeccq came from a commie family (especially his grandmother whom he loved and took her maiden name as pen-name) and was himself a commie in the first half of his life.

>>8688054
>>8699518
>>8699522

>“I AM WHAT I AM.” That’s marketing’s final offering to the world, the final stage of
advertising’s evolution, beyond, far beyond, all the exhortations to be different, to be
yourself, and drink Pepsi. It took decades of concepts to get there, to that pure
tautology, to “I = I.” He’s running on a treadmill in front of the mirror in his gym...
she’s coming back from work, flying down the road in her Smart car. Will they
meet?
“I AM WHAT I AM.” My body belongs to me. I am me, you are you, and it’s not
going too well. Mass personalization. Individualization of all conditions – of life,
work, misery. Diffuse schizophrenia. Rampant depression. Atomization into fine
paranoiac particles. Hysterics upon contact. The more I want to be Me, the more I
feel an emptiness. The more I express myself the more I dry up. The more I run
after it, the more tired out I get. I hang onto it, you hang onto it; we cling to our “I”
like a tedious bureaucratic window-job. We’ve become our own representatives in a
strange commerce, guarantors of a personalization that in the end looks a lot like an
amputation. We insure ourselves all the way to bankruptcy, with a more or less
disguised clumsiness.
While I wait, I manage. The quest for a self; my blog, my apartment, the latest
fashionable idiocy, couples’ stories, getting ass... all kinds of prosthetic limbs to
hang onto an “I” with! And if “society” hadn’t become such a definitive abstraction,
then it would just be all these existential crutches offered me to let me drag myself
along a little more, the ensemble of dependencies that I’ve contracted, for the price
of my identity. The handicapped person is the model citizen of tomorrow. It’s not
without foresight that the associations that exploit them today demand a
“subsistence income” for them.
The injunction everywhere to “be someone” maintains the pathological state that
makes this society necessary. The injunction to be strong produces the very
weakness it maintains itself on, to such a point that everything seems to take on a
therapeutic aspect, even working or love. All the times we ask “how’s it going?” all
day long – like a society full of patients, taking each other’s temperature. Sociability
is now made up of a thousand little niches, a thousand little refuges where you can
come in to keep warm. And it’s always better there than in the bitter cold outside.
Where everything’s false, since it’s all just a pretext for getting heated up. Where
nothing can happen since we’re all too busy deafly shivering together. This society
will soon only be held together by the mere tension of all the social atoms straining
towards an illusory healing. It’s a power station that drives its turbines on a gigantic
reservoir of dammed up tears that is always about to spill over.

>>8699555
Cont.

“I AM WHAT I AM.” Never has domination found a more above-suspicion slogan.
The maintenance of an “I” that’s in a permanent state of semi-disrepair, in a chronic
state of semi-failure, is the best kept secret of the present order of things. The weak, depressed, self-critical, virtual “I” is essentially the indefinitely adaptable
subject that requires a production based on innovation, the accelerated
obsolescence of technologies, the constant upheaval of social norms, and
generalized flexibility. At the same time the most voracious consumer, and,
paradoxically, the most productive “I,” it will throw itself with the most energy and
avidity into the slightest project, only to come back later to the embryonic state it
started from.
“WHAT AM I,” then? Washed since childhood in the waves: milk, smells, stories,
sounds, emotions, nursery rhymes, substances, gestures, ideas, impressions, looks,
songs, and foods. What am I? I’m totally tied to places, sufferings, ancestors,
friends, loves, events, languages, memories, all kinds of things that obviously are
not me. Everything that attaches me to the world, all the links that comprise me, all
the forces that populate me – they don’t weave an identity, though I am encouraged
to wield one, but an existence: singular, common, living, and from which emerges -
in places, at certain moments - that being that says “I.” Our feeling of inconsistency
is only the effect of this foolish belief in the permanence of the “I,” and the very slight
concern we give to what makes us.
It’s dizzying to see Reebok’s “I AM WHAT I AM” enthroned atop a Shanghai
skyscraper. The West is advancing everywhere, with its favorite Trojan horse: the
murderous antimony between the “I” and the world, the individual and the group,
between attachment and freedom. Freedom isn’t the gesture of liberation from
attachments, but the practical capacity to operate upon them, to move around in
them, to establish or cut them off. The family only exists as a family, that is, as hell,
for those who have renounced the project of altering its debilitating mechanisms, or
don’t know how. The freedom to tear oneself out has always been the mere
phantom of liberty. We won’t get free of what’s holding us back without losing at the
same time that which our strength could be exercised on.

>>8699424
>perfect monogamy

No one cares about this idealized view. Social monogamy is good enough to rein in the incoming chaos. The point is just to reinstate a standard.

>>8699555
>>8699570
I really really hate the Coming poseur insurrection.

>>8699581
It looks like it's basically the same message though...

>>8688202
rolling

>>8699555
>>8699581
I find it pretty precise, to be honest.

>>8699481
t. Socrates

>>8699594
>>8699615
It's the style mostly. Although i read the French version where it sounds even more pedantic and verbose.

>>8699645
I remember reading it thinking he could well have been one of the authors. What's your thought on that?

>>8699088
Kreutzer sonata.

>>8699651
I doubt it. Coupat's clique was really small and self-contained. As far as i know he wasn't close from them. besides, by the time the book was written, Houellebecq had already given up on hope.

>>8688202
roll

>>8699097
Leftists don't want regulated markets, leftists want to abolish capital, you dolt. Any form of "market" that shows up in a communist society would be closer to bartering than Wall Street.

But if, following your thought, leftists are hypocrites for wanting regulations in what they're bad and freedom in what they're good, can we assume /pol/lacks are total failures for wanting regulation in both market and love?

>>8699725
>leftists want to abolish capital
Holy shit please be joking. You can't have this little of an understanding of what's going on around you.

>>8688202
roll

Would you have sex with (old) him?

>>8699409
Do not seek fame. Do not make plans. Do not be absorbed by activities. Do not think that you know. Be aware of all that is and dwell in the infinite. Wander where there is no path. Be all that heaven gave you, but act as though you have received nothing. Be empty, that is all.

The mind of a perfect person is like a mirror. It grasps nothing. It expects nothing. It reflects but does not hold. Therefore the perfect person can act without effort.

Zhuangzi

>>8688054

he propped this to make it sound deep but basically it's a rehahs of an old joke! i forgot who did it but it was something about hot girls not giving the pussy and uglies giving it easily to compensate but explained from an offer and demand perspective. i forget the twist or the "point" of the joke , but it was upbeat... will have to look it up.

>>8688202
>>8688202
nigga