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Currently reading 'Propaganda' by Jacques Ellul. Pretty good, but a little bit dated

Does anyone know of any contemporary texts about propaganda, especially regarding its relation to the internet

>> No.8625156
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8625156

bum peen

>> No.8625393

>>8625156
Bit harsh desu

>> No.8625396

>>8625061
Mein Kampf has a section on propaganda.

>> No.8625397

>>8625061
Moscow 2042
you can guess what it is about.

>> No.8625407

>>8625397
a crappy soviet novel written by that time when it wasn't even dangerous to write such stuff?

>> No.8625424

>>8625407
yeesh. tripfags really are the worst.

>> No.8625562

Has anyone here read: How the Steel was Tempered?

>> No.8625587

>>8625061

All Art is Propaganda by George Orwell.

>> No.8625814

>>8625061
Gathering ammo for the meme war, eh OP?

>> No.8625830

>>8625814
no, just have a general interest

>> No.8625880

>>8625562
no. not unless we have chinaposters or elderly russians. it is stalin era "classic", along with &quiet flows the don and the fadeyev's young guard.

>> No.8625938

>>8625407
especially if you were writing in munich, you dolt.
>>8625061
a contemporary classic is the book by bernays. it favours the indirect approach: a poster telling you "do this! do that!", if anything, will rouse a feeling of disgust and protest so in it's stead you have trustworthy people (just the type your middle class wage cuck aspires to be) implicitly support whatever it is that you are trying to sell. If you have a specific target group in mind you drag their idols (their starlets, journalists, their pastors and their dalai llamas) onto your bandwagon. Besides, Bernays prescribes sex appeal with zero sleaze, so strap a pair of boobs onto your llama or, say, have him go to the gym.

>> No.8625971

>>8625938
>especially if you were writing in munich, you dolt
how is it related? it literally was published in russia in 1989, in 3 years after it was written and he could just as well write it anywhere

>> No.8625972

>>8625938
>1928

>> No.8626163

>>8625971
>1989
source? what publisher? it took 4 years for it to get published in posev in germany because muh-solzhenitsyn. drop a look into the buttmad reviews across the ocean in the usa. they are available on jstor.

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bumping for internet related works

>> No.8627467

>>8626163
https://fantlab.ru/work70211 has a list of its publications in russian:

the original american (ardis publishing) edition of 1987: https://fantlab.ru/edition46313

a chapter of it was published in 'znanie-sila' magazine, september 1989 issue: https://fantlab.ru/edition62239 https://fantlab.ru/work271340

then it was twice published in 1990, as a single book by vsya moskva https://fantlab.ru/edition19291 and in an anthology of utopias and antiutopias by progress https://fantlab.ru/edition29265 https://fantlab.ru/work134602

the following publications were after the collapse of the soviet union in 1991

>it took 4 years for it to get published in posev in germany
in german i guess? it needed a translation then

>> No.8627570

>>8625061
Uncorporate Identity by Metahaven

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>>8625061
How the fuck has no one in this thread recommended manufacturing consent? Chomsky is literally an expert at this stuff