/lit/ - Literature

>>8604300
>>8604298
Which one's better?

Dubs say blue, but what does /lit/ believe?

>>8604307
Both are good. Just don't read Pope if you want to read Homer. Read Pope if you want to read Pope.

>>8604298

Requesting charts for Wallace, Nabokov, Orwell, or Dostoevsky.

>>8604307

Blue is far better because it includes the Oresteia.

>>8604963
Yes please DFW chart.

>>8604998

>not posting the newest version

>>8604307
The fact that blue recommends the Pope translations makes me skeptical any of the rest of their advice is good.

>>8605014
Not really big enough of a sample size to make that one very meaningful.

>>8605312
? The 2014 version polled less people than the 2015

I need some chart with gud books from this century.

>>8605492
kek

>>8604995

Does someone have the numbered charts used for 'rolling'? Thanks.

>>8605312
Are you dumb? The number of people polled is in both images. The 2015 poll had almost three times as many responses as the 2014 poll.

>>8604998
>The Stranger
> #2
W E W L A D
E
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L
A
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>>8605435
new and improved

>>8606002
have you read any to these? i wanna get into horror but don't know what to read first

>>8606039
I've read about a dozen of them. Horror is rarely actually frightening, if ever.

>>8605681
Idiot.

>>8606006
>Fascist
>Anti-semitic/racist
>Imperialism

These have nothing to do with the right-wing.

>>8606116
Even with the disclaimer we get mongs like you.

>>8606170
Please post portuguese and chinese

anyone have that Nabokov chart that, I think, has different paths?

>>8606002
somebody tell me their opinion of Uzumaki?

Bump

>>8604995

>>8606116
cuck

Does someone have the Japanese lit guide

>>8606059
I think people get into it for the "feel" of the books.

>>8606321
it's very very good. Can't think of many others with an imagination like Ito's
also Ring has the coolest cover ever

>>8606059
none of them made you feel anxious, or creeped out? they are just books in the end so it's a bit difficult to really scare someone.

>>8606082
didn't kokoro receive a ton of criticism recently?


Is it good? It sounds interesting.

>>8606116
REE REE REE REEad the disclaimer at the top you twat

>>8606578
It's an enjoyable feeling when it works but it's not something that would keep me up at night.

>>8606734
At best they give me a feeling of excitement at the suggestion of the mysterious or unknown but not anxious or creeped out, no. Something that isn't really horror would be better for that; The Story of The Eye, Dhalgren or My Idea of Fun. Anything that showcases the perversion of real people and the depths they might sink to is far scarier than silly ghosts, vampires, inter-dimensional monsters or animated puppets.

>>8606321
Honestly godtier. He's the only one I know of that can make spirals scary. (A lot of it is absurd.)

>>8606002
>Lord Dunsany, Great God pan, king in yellow, lovecraft, ito, I have no mouth.
Fuck, that's so good!

>>8606755
Curious as to what criticism you are referring to
Interested in checking it out
Personally it is one of my favorite novels

>>8606214
It's the only Portuguese (language) chart that I know of.

>>8606120
I'm gonna redo this one at some point. I'm no expert but this one is hardly helpful for beginners.

>>8606214

Can i get some recommendations for books about manipulation?

>>8607201
Obviously edited image

>>8604307
Blue wins.
If only because it includes Xenophon's Anabasis

Any nihilist charts?

>>8607281
also requesting

>>8607281
>>8607283
Doesn't seem to be, sorry guys. Maybe someone else has one.

>>8607283
Autistic retard

>>8607297
did I upset you?

>>8607297
woah take a chill pill

>>8606600
>puts Dostoevsky at the same place as Dickens

yeah, no

>>8607310
thanks annonete!!

>>8607165
Why is 1Q84 considered shittier than the wind up bird on this board?

Time to dump some shit

>>8607283
MODS

Req French and German lit guides/intros/whatever

Thanks in advance

>>8607527
I got some for both coming just you wait

>>8607527
Here's the first, another french and one german one to come

>>8607527
2/3

I'm getting good at identifying store fronts

>>8607542
Got some more specific Christian
1/2

>>8607527
3/3

>>8607585
*1/2

>>8607589

>>8607583
You can use legacy captcha and just type "347" or summat

This is the real Greek Chart

>>8607585
Gimme some

>>8607582
The chart is fucking awful because I can't actually see what books it is recommending due to the awful formating.

>>8607586
WHERE THE FUCK IS FRANZ VON SCHÖNWERTH AND ARNO SCHMIDT?! I'M FUMING!!!

>>8606116
They have nothing to do with Burke, Hayek, Aristotle and Aquinas, true, but "right wing" is a huge umbrella term that includes systems which are different between each other as much as Marxism is to st. Augustine.

IM! GONNA! SCREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!!!!!!N!!Ñ!N!!!! s

>>8606600
Pseud: the chart.

Dont use this chart new people

>>8604995
I like this one better

bonus /mu/ chart

>>8607608
>Entry Level
>Hatless Whitman

>Levelled-up tier
>Whitman with Hat

Everytime.

>>8607535
>>8607575
>>8607586
Cheers mate, saved all 4.

Quite specific question, but do you happen to have any "introduction to philosophical thought - start with this then read that etc" in either French or German?

Are there any charts for world history books?

>>8607652
Don't think so. I'm mostly done

>>8607634
Thanks man, I am contacting my swedish /lit/ buddy who has acces to private trackers now.

Currently doing this one

>>8607666
Which retard made this chart? It's a fucking mess of random works he obviously didn't read.

>>8607685
>not warning how subpar the Hurley Borges is

>>8606321
starts ok ends up terrible

>>8607674
Nice selections.

>>8607593
Nice Greek chart here. Commendable for suggesting Teaching Company lectures too. Prof. Vandiver's have helped me immensely in reading classical literature. All of the ancient history courses I've listened too are great too.

>>8604963
Based nabbo coming through

>>8606170
>isabel allende
>vargas llosa
disgusting.
i can make a better chart

>>8606006
This should be put under non-fiction as fascist, batshit crazy

>>8607344
lol why

>>8607663
I started the thread for this many years ago :')

>>8609366
I remember.

>>8604995

>>8607344
hahaha oh kek

bringing light to uncultured savages

1/4

>>8609456

>>8609460

>>8609463
4/4

>>8607608
Absolutely disgusting is this a joke?

Thanks for all the charts guys, really useful stuff. super excited to go hunting for all this work.

BUT FIRST

I have a book society meeting at my uni later so i'm going to spew some pseud shit after checking some of these charts. Thanks again

>>8606801
God damn, Portugese looks like a pig language.

>>8606603
Have "how to read and why" and "how to to read a book"

Any other essentials in this list?

>>8607315
>if you want to read short stories, read the short stories
>if you want to read novels, read the novels
Great chart.

>>8607611
pretty gud

>>8606600
been looking for this for ages.
just wanted to see where they placed faulkner.

>>8606600
Honest question : was this meant to be ironic?

>>8606130
>Brave New World
>utopia

nice meme

Are there any charts about transgressive literature?

/r/ing a chart for DeLillo. If not, any suggestions?

No charts of poetry?

>>8611240
read the thread fag

Any charts of shit written by women?

>>8606002
didn't know King in Yellow predated Great God Pan. I always had a vague idea of when both came out, and knew they couldn't be more than a decade apart, but I always thought the king came afterwards.

How's that 2016 creepypasta shit? Looks meme tier from the cover. Asking unironically. Creepypasta is a guilty pleasure for reading on the subway.

>>8610107
delet this
deleta isso

>>8610074
no prob anon. giving people repertoire for pseuding in university is the only reason this board exists.

>>8604998
Okay seriously what the fuck is infinite jest even about?

>>8607525
>No divine comedy
>No paradise lost

Anyone have any guides to getting into authirian legend and other tales of medieval knights and chivalry and so on?

French Science Fiction Chart?

>>8607639
LOLMAO 10/10

Does anyone have a beginners/intro chart to political philosophy?

>>8606801
>not a single portuguese writer
>portuguese chart
yea

Might as well post music charts now

>>8607310
the file name.

>>8607546
>fucking manara
>clive barker
>frank miller
>modesity blaise
>eagle comics
Is this a b8 chart?

>>8613840
>ed sheeran
>sia
>grimes

>>8613840
>wrong rundgrem album
>wrong zappa album
>wrong welvet underground album
>wrong pf album
>wrong david bowie album
As a /mu/tant, this chart gave me cancer.

>>8613840
jesus, what moron put this together

>>8604298
>>8604300

what's the /lit/ consensus regarding Robert Graves' books on greek myths? Is that Hamilton book better?

>>8615427
>>8615303
>>8615284
>Taking shitposting seriously
Also this is obviously not a guide

>>8615453
Hamilton is better. March's Penguin Book of Classical Myths is more comprehensive than both. All will do the job if you're starting with the Greeks though.

>>8607565
>game of thrones
>god tier

just stop already

>>8613219
Here >>8607701

>>8612072
>How's that 2016 creepypasta shit?
Probably not great desu, it's more a placeholder representing creepypasta as a whole - I looked for an anthology of the classics (Candle Cove, Ben Drowned, Russian Sleep Experiment, etc) but there doesn't seem to be one

>>8607598
The guy who made this admitted it was a joke. Why would anyone start reading Hemingway with his most boring and tedius albeit worthy read. Everyone starting Hemingway needs to start on The old man and the sea or his short stories. The sun also rises should be near the end with for whom the bell tolls.

>>8613219
>>8616170
Meant for >>8612514, sorry

>>8605435
>Classic Horror
>no german "Schauergeschichten"

Why do people pretend to create insightful charts, when they really just list they books they've read themself from a certain category/genre/movement?

>>8606002
>still no german stories

u are a joke

>>8616178
>when they really just list they books they've read themself from a certain category/genre/movement?
How could anyone do otherwise? Do you suggest listing books that haven't been read?

>>8616186
An objective knowledge of the topic of the chart would help. It's a bit silly to make a chart on horror literature and then leave out many novels/novellas and short stories that played a decisive role in the emergence of the genre, no?

>>8616178
>>8616185
Rec me a title, I'll consider it. Or just go into Paint and add it yourself; these things are supposed to grow and change as multiple posters share their knowledge

>>8608004

Vargas Llosa is ok, but most of his books on that list are awful.
I would only include Conversación en la Catedral, La guerra del Fin del Mundo and the short novel Los Cachorros.

Isabel Allende shouldnt be there at all.

That list has too many books that arent very good at all.

>>8607576
Theme?

>>8616449
>filename

>>8616380
The thing that triggers me is that the list is full of mediocre Vargas Llosa filler, while it doesn't even have any Alejo Carpentier or Maria Luisa Bombal. Honestly, why do they put more than one book per author?

Also, the poetry 'section' is a fucking travesty
>picking any Neruda book other than Canto General
>no Nicanor Parra

>>8607685
I'd actually give the Oxford Classics Melville translation of Ovid a small edge over Mandelbaum, because it comes with notes.

>>8607651
This is so shitty. Someone should really make a guide explaining different types of poetry along with 2 or 3 examples. This "chart" is just some fuckface's opinion

>>8615284
Fuck Ed Sheeran. Sia sucks. But leave pre-last album Grimes alone.

>>8616513

More than one book per author is absolutely fine.
Both 2666 and Los Detectives Salvajes should be in the list, the same goes for Ficciones and El Aleph.
The list is bad because of its choices.

>>8607639
Effort: 10
Effect: 10
Egregiousness: 10

>>8607576
Has anyone read any of these?

>>8605014
>every single one of Pynchon's books is on this list

THAT is what you call GOAT, ladies and gentlemen.

>>8608004
Make one pls

got any history charts?

Requesting French science fiction chart

>>8617198
The Times is subpar, i wouldn't recommend it as one of the first ones to listen to.
Bitter old man Dylan is much better than washed up 80´s. Time Out of Mind is a masterpiece

>>8604995
>Essential leftist lit
>Zizek
kek

>>8617155
I'm literal shit at graphic design and ugly charts trigger my autism.

>>8607201
is this what you're looking for?

>>8607576
>no Geoffrey Leonard
pleb

>>8607639
>LeGuin
10/10

not sure if this has been posted yet

>>8604995
>leftist
>progressive

Anybody have how to get into Tolstoy/Dostoyevski chart

>>8604298
I really want to start with the greeks but I'm not sure I want to read that shit in English, why can't it provide the names of the writers present in those compilations, or the subjects that one needs to study?

>>8604995
Aren't you forgetting someone, my property?

>>8607639
more like basement dwelling nu-male

Wtf there's so many books. A life isn't enough to read all of this.

:/

>>8606124
thanks for this, the list seems pretty comfy

>>8613840
>faust
>mum
wut

>>8620581
>what are readingbots
Lul

>>8620581

If you just want to get a broad overview of the western canon + the 20th century /lit/ memebooks + a few of your own choices it's easily doable within 5 years or so. Sure it's impossible to read every good book ever written but it's actually relatively easy to run out of truly great books to read if you've been a serious reader for more than 10 years.

>>8607211
Man, this is just graphically a very beautiful chart. How was this made?

>>8605681
>>8606507
>ancaps
>progressive or leftist
baka senpai

>>8604998
>>8605014

Is there any Swedish chart out there?

http://imgur.com/a/rrLGQ

>>8606170
>spaniards need to rely on their colonies to fill an infographic for them

Since actual /lit/ has a slightly masochistic boredom tolerance than your average pleb, is there some actual shit that will put you guys to sleep?

for an analogy, i'm from /g/ and we have this thing called RFC (request for comments) that assuredly puts most to rest at night