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Any recommended fascist writers? Its hard to find contemporary works apologizing or expanding its ideas unlike socialism and communism literature.

>> No.8527502

>>8527496
Thats probably because most Neo-Nazis have eight grade reading level

>> No.8527503

>>8527496
Heideggers notebooks

>> No.8527516

Why do you frogposters make this thread every single day?

There are no contemporary fascist writers because fascism is predicated on militant anti-intellectualism. As another anon has already pointed out, the majority of Neo-Nazis in the United States and Europe are uneducated semi-literates who have been duped into pinning their troubles on a scary, amorphous Other. You can't write a book for people who can't read. Stop making this thread.

You will always be kissless.

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>>8527502

>> No.8527521

>>8527496
>Its hard to find contemporary works apologizing or expanding its ideas unlike socialism and communism literature.

That should've made it clear to you that reading is for pinkos. Just join a local gun club.

>> No.8527528

>>8527516
>There are no contemporary fascist writers because fascism
I doubt the lack of intellectuals supporting fascism. Instead many bookstores simple ban any right wing writings.

>>8527503
Classic.


>>8527516
>You can't write a book for people who can't read. Stop making this thread.
Why you instantly label a reader for seeking more literature from a valid philosophy? Reading Das Kapital doesnt make you a neo-communist, if you get the idea.

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8527546

Platon was pretty red-pilled.

>> No.8527548

Knut hamsun.
Louis-Ferdinand Celine

Also fuck off back to /pol/ you waste of fucking oxygen

>> No.8527550

>>8527496
Try asking this where you came from. If they can't answer you then it says a lot about people that believe in this bullshit.

>>>/pol/

>> No.8527552

>>8527496

Delet dis thread
dis is a board were we discuss novels n ok marxists becuz its truth

>> No.8527576

>>8527550
I am not surprised, back in the days writers were based. Now are filled with liberal arts majors who can't even share a discussion on a sensitive matter for academia tends.

Its like watching classic art and schools, and now the so called artists doing utter shit quality products. Same with the English majors, reading Nietzsche and meaningless authors without any real content at all.

>> No.8527581

>>8527516

>a scary, amorphous Other

Except it isn't amorphous. It's a pretty well-defined other: small undefineable and high testosterone brown people.
And it's causing troubles. Like you know, inner city crime, shooting up rock gigs and cutting off priest's heads.

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>>8527552

>> No.8527589

Heidegger in philosophy.

Ezra Pound in literature.

We have Nick land and moldbug on the hard right although both are definitely not true fascists

>> No.8527591

Reactionary politics is inherently anti-intellectual

>> No.8527597

>>8527517
what a bait

>> No.8527599

>>8527576
We have these little brown shits around here. They are not high test. They need a group of 7-10 before they do so much as make noise. Problem is there are big groups everywhere

>> No.8527604

>>8527597
Its true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEndx2LG5aM

Paris is not the cliche romantic setting anymore, described in so many old novels.

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8527606

>>8527591

It isn't.
It's not because reactionairies hate the trendies among the intellectuals that they hate intellectuals as such.

>> No.8527609

>>8527604

You can say this about any place. Doesn't mean Nazi occupation is any better.

>> No.8527610

>>8527609
If something is bad that means the opposite is just as good.

>> No.8527613

>>8527528
>many bookstores simple ban any right wing writings

Like who? I was just at a fucking Barnes and Noble last night and literally all of Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly's writings were sharing a "Hot Sellers" table with Art of the Deal and Roger Stone's new conspiracy book about the Clintons. I also picked up an economic analysis from Thomas Sowell.

Maybe you're just like, a fag or something.

>> No.8527618

>>8527604

Many Americans and Asians seem to think so.
My Taiwanese friends obsess over France. Here on /lit/ I'm sure some learn French thinking it'll make them much more sophisticated.
They're chasing a bygone thing. I live next to it and visit it frequently and it's honestly the death of the West in real time.

>> No.8527619

James Ellroy

>> No.8527620

>>8527609
In terms of organization? Yeah it was better. Hitler expressed its desire to the French elite to be part of the Pan-European Union under the Nazi Party direction.

Structure were left untouched. Hospitals, factories and other places were expanded under Vichy proxy government. To an extent it was far better than it is now. Unless of course you were Jewish.

>> No.8527621

>>8527604

"We need these people for the well-being of the market."
- Leftists sounding like managers

>> No.8527622

>>8527613
Like who? Like Hitler. Its distribution its forbidden in retail stores here.

>> No.8527630

>>8527622
Like Hitler what? Like Mein Kampf? Yes, I imagine that is banned in multiple bookstore chains. You said ANY right-wing books, you hyperbolic bitch.

>> No.8527637

>>8527630
>hyperbolic bitch.
Its the art of the deal, babe.

>> No.8527638

>>8527622
Mein Kampf is sold in every bookstore in America desu

>> No.8527649

>>8527638
You can go to jail for selling it here. Specially the older versions, without annotations.

>> No.8527650

>>8527638
Every bookstore? I bet it isnt over one in ten

>> No.8527652

>>8527649
Well, that's there. And that sucks. But see, what you said was wrong. You said a wrong thing, and you are wrong for it.

Now suck me.

>> No.8527655

>>8527606
Junger may have been a conservative and a monarchist, but his writings are inherently anti fascist. Eumswil, the Glass Bees, The Marble Cliffs...none can claim the barest of fascist ideology.

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>>8527638
>Mein Kampf is sold in every bookstore in America desu
EVERY book store?

>> No.8527664

>>8527650
Barnes and Noble, Walden Books, and Borders back in the day all had it in stacks. Amazon has 10 editions. Thrift books has only about 15000 used. Don't be a retard.

>> No.8527666

>>8527655
Even Evola was anti-Fascist. These men are just all soppy nostalgic aristocrats

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Fascism is a meme; the aristocracy is what we're missing.

>> No.8527673

>>8527663
You think the jews wouldn't order it in for you at an over-inflated price?

>> No.8527675

>>8527663
You really think they would pass the opportunity to make money off of one other thing?

>> No.8527680

>>8527673
Business is business, -said the merchant ever.

>> No.8527681

>>8527663
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mein-Kampf/1091591

>> No.8527686

>>8527672
Guillotine yourself

>> No.8527688

>>8527663
You can buy the shop keeps daughter, she's just not on the shelf

>> No.8527689

>>8527686
not an argument

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>>8527675
>Not using Mein Kampf as a token book, to boost selling and credibility of the fiction section, like pic related.

Marketing 101

>> No.8527693

>>8527689
Its a suggestion not an argument

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Barnes and Noble keeps it stocked up. The one by me almost has a half shelf full.

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>>8527576
>I dont read contemporary literature
>I make huge assumptions about contemporary literature
>I look like a fool discussing contemporary literature

>> No.8527706

Where people see conspiracy, they'll see conspiracy. Where people see truth, they'll see truth.

>> No.8527712

>>8527706
Oh hey, the word "want" belongs in there somewhere.

I'm drunk.

>> No.8527714

>>8527694
>French/German History
>whole shelf filled with Mein Kampf and Nazi shit

Amerifats, man. Amerifats

>> No.8527719

>>8527689
I actually thought there was considerable merit in that post......enough for it to be taken as a serious incitement to action.

>> No.8527724

>>8527618
I teach English to Japanese students. I tell them not to go, but so many love the idea of a peaceful walk at night in Paris.
I personally know more than one person who "lost" their bag, or camera, as the police say there. No some brown guy ran off with it.
Japan is so peaceful people leave their shit around with not a second thought. It's heartbreaking these people are the number one target because they are so trusting

Paris syndrome exists, but not because Paris itself is a letdown. It's flooded with human trash.
Germany to.
You know when Japanese people are starting to choose Poland over France and Germany something is fucked

>> No.8527725

>>8527703
How did you knew I was Peruvian?

>> No.8527726

>>8527581
A few isolated events of terror that are absolutely nothing compared to the crime in the third world, while the crime rate for the West as a whole has gone down in recent decades. What a bunch of sensationalist horseshit. Oh no, there are (more)brown people in Paris now? Maybe France should stop engaging in neo-colonialism killing people in their native countries, or maybe they shouldn't have killed hundreds of peaceful North African protesters in the middle of the last century.

Oh and those brown terrorists you're so hung up about? They're fascists. ISIS is a fascist organization, they even have their own version of the gestapo to keep a constant eye on their soldiers.

Either read a book some time or kill yourself, the choice is yours.

>> No.8527729

>>8527719
kys

>> No.8527736

>>8527581
I thought it was Jews? Or people that watch their wife do sex with a strange black man, or something.

>> No.8527737

>>8527714
>Evans
>Nazi Shit

>> No.8527738

Thing is, Mein Kampf is a shitty rant by a better painter than writer. (It's true and you know it, his talents lay in other areas such as ex tempore oratory). If there is a liberal conspiracy to suppress right wing thought and literature, they would definitely keep Hitler's book around to destroy rightest literature's credibility.

>> No.8527749

>>8527738
Nigger did you even pick a recent version of the book? Annotations occupy 60% of each page area, and its even it small letters.

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>>8527686
Pleb.

>> No.8527752

>>8527738
You ever think he would've just lived his life as a painter if he wouldn't have been called a faggot?

>> No.8527757

>>8527738
He's not a writer but his book is better than anything Obama had ghost written.
And he did it himself.
He's definitely a high iq dude who got it twisted somehow.

Infact Hitler sounds like that high iq weird kid who has read mein Kampf

>> No.8527758

>>8527726
>Either read a book some time or kill yourself, the choice is yours.

Anon's trying to but you continue not to post any!

>> No.8527766

>>8527749
Okay? I picked up a copy of Paradise Lost last night, same thing. A bible, the doctrine of the most prominent religion on Earth, I'd skim through at church as a kid, same thing. Hell, half of Art of War is the introduction by a professor at Whothefuckcares, New York Probably.

>> No.8527767

>>8527757
>He did it himself

Every fucking source out there says he dictated it to Hess, who then edited it.

>> No.8527784

The only retards who want fascism are betas that want to be told what to do and their place in the world. Sad.

>> No.8527794

>>8527767

The same fucking post-war sources that said he was half-Jewish, was into incest, was partially blind, had only one testicle, gassed 1 person every 8 seconds, was bi-polar and so on?

>> No.8527798

>>8527689
it was a decent joke tho

>> No.8527807

>>8527794
He said "every", so I assume "every". Why does it matter? Pretty much every prominent figure in history and at present that tickles your pickle has a ghost writer. It makes shit easier. I imagine Hitler, at times, may have liked his shit easier. When you start yelling "conspiracy" at every counterpoint thrown your way, how are you any better than them GODDAMN LEFTISTS who shout "racism" at everything you say?

>> No.8527808

>>8527496
Read Eileen Myles

>> No.8527813

>>8527807
Critical thinking isn't really our thang, mang.

>> No.8527819

>>8527757
>desperation: the post

>> No.8527822

>>8527819
Racial awareness: the horror.

>> No.8527826

>>8527822
Words: Words

>> No.8527832

>>8527826
Liberal majors: 2deep4me or 2deep2go?

>> No.8527835

>>8527832
Both?

>> No.8527841

>>8527672
I love /lit/ conservatives, at least they're honest. If there's a tradition to pine over, it won't be born from fascism. Frankly, it won't be born at all. Those times have passed. Not necessarily for the better, but they have passed.

>> No.8527846

>>8527841
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, but /lit/ makes me laugh harder than any other board on this site and if that's what you're saying with your words, I agree.

>> No.8527859

>>8527841
The Rothschild family gave billions worth to Napoleon, he destroyed so many Imperial monarchies that at the time were doing fine. Then they sponsored German intellectuals to spark the Bolshevik revolution to destroy the last Imperial monarchy left.

>> No.8527873

>>8527859
You guys make these people sound so based.

>> No.8527906

Fascism won't work as s form of government, not for long, and not in this world. Right wing extremism is philosophically unsound. You cannot build a lasting modern civilization on Wagnerian myth, Nietzschean power fits, and Huston Stewart Chamberlains race theories (he's the guy who radicalized Hitlers views on Jews). These inane influences were borne from a contempt of the modern world, and only serve as a counterblow against the fruits of reason.

I think most gravitate to fascism because no alternative to the degenerate mainstream identity politics and cuck culture is offered to young people. It is possible to embrace the great European thinkers of history and truly defend Western Civilization without falling into the duped ranks of militant extremists.

>> No.8527921

>>8527906
Can't it be said that extremism of any kind is philosophically unsound?

>> No.8527947

>>8527921
Define "extermism." How the fuck do you determine if something is extreme or not? Can't democracy be called extreme mob rule?
Also, what makes something philosophically sound or unsound?

>> No.8527979

>>8527921
Pure ideology

>> No.8527983

>>8527947
Easy, friendo. I'm just saying, is right-wing extremism any less or more philosophically unsound than left-wing extremism?

>> No.8527994

>>8527983
Revolutionary Communism is the only sound philosophical position

>> No.8527997

>>8527994
The ONLY sound philosophical position? Please state your case.

I'm fully nude, btw.

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>>8527906

>you cannot build a lasting civilization on myth

Ehhh, kid. I know you're trying to sound cool for your BLM and professional hashtagger friends... and maybe you'll get that job at Vice, but stop the fucking crap.

What the fuck is philosophically unsound?
Catholicism is a mish mash of sometimes the most random elements found in the ancient world at the time. It's a fucking joke looking at how it isn't just syncretic but a total pastiche if there ever was any.
If you read Islamic scholars, you'd have to agree with them about how Catholicism looks like an incoherent mess.
Yet it's there. And it burries you all.

>> No.8528004

>>8527997
Sharing is caring

>> No.8528007

>>8527906

Marxism was philosophically sound and imploded completely after not even a century of implementation.
I doubt you need a philosophically coherent set of ideas for your society to function, social science dorks.

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>>8528004

>> No.8528011

>>8527496
aa

>> No.8528015

>>8527546
t. spic

>> No.8528019

>>8527921
>>8527983
t. relativists

>looking for excuses to make being wrong ok

the two essential constituents of matter are not fascist and marxist particles, you know. is really your only recourse?

>> No.8528021

>>8528007
Marx stated that Socialism would arrise exactly as it is on course to as the rate of the return of profit continues to decline from increasing automation. Nowhere in his work did he state Socialism was possible in a largely Feudal society such as Russia and China were.
State Socialism may be dead but Marx remains as much a titan in intellectual discourse as he ever was

>> No.8528025

>>8528019
Both posts are me and I don't even know what you're saying. Either you're fucking stupid or I'm fucking stupid and as a relativist, I say we choose either based on which one makes us feel better and not speak to each other ever again.

>> No.8528034

>>8528025
>As a...
Hellooo reddit.

He's right you know

>> No.8528036

>>8527496
Heard you don't like weed fagget. You don't like my memes? well fuk you too kid. I have comprehended Kant's transcendental idealism, and Nietzsche's eternal turn. I've majored in STEM. Btw sticky this fagget mod. Anyway, I've read the complete works of Hamlet I've listened to Bach's Brandenburgh concertos and Mozart's Turkish March and Beethoven's mona lisa; just finished Infinite Jest today before typing this. Wtf have you done? 2 weeks ago I completed Breaking Bad and The Wire. I have killed more jews than hitler through my memes. Every time a jew reads my meme he kills himself. HAHAHA. Trump 2016. I got LEM in cs:go and talked to Pro Snookie myself. I once ate shrooms from the ground, a full 1g fagget. You probably think these are all memes and that I'm trying to make you feel bad. Nah kid, these aren't memes, these are all evolutionary fact. Dawkins confirmed himself. The gang bang has already predestination all of these memes for you to consume while eating your doritos. I make 35 billion K in simoleons, what do you even do you no talent hacker?

I bet you can't even meme harder than this, I've seen some genius memers here but only a few who can see my deepness. You can't convert me, you can only be me. Pz for now until i see a better meme. My meme will get so hot that I know I will get popular, see my initials on my cute af body. Cant even lift my body I bet.

I was acquainted with Mozart before anyone could even speak. When I was just a little baby my parents played this for me and I became smarter than anyone here. Here's the video, though it's already too late for you because you're a big dummy now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noFteCr3GO4 [Embed] [Embed]

I post memes on [s4s] 24/7 kid, what was even the last book you read last time? you can't hit shit kid. My lil bisexual bro already raped you all, and he's only a 21 year old philosophic genius. He was right, you kids are ez.
*coughs* fuck this weed is dank. Thanks for the lite kid.

*hiccups*

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>>8528036
shit forgot my pic

>> No.8528049

>>8527576
The thing is, Nietzsche contains much more sound, traditionalist views than all the shitty right wing writers you've read

>> No.8528050

>>8528025
I'm saying is your method of determining the truth of any statement or phenomenon as simple as classifying it as fascist or marxist, considering the latent contradictions between the two, then reasoning your response based on whichever you leik best?

>> No.8528058

>>8528034
I went to reddit once for some links to dead Skyrim mods and the layout made me want to puke out of my eye sockets.

How is he right? If we're defining the extremist right wing as something equivalent to Fascism, what do we define the extremist left wing as and why is that the ONLY sound philosophical solution?

>> No.8528059

>>8527859
That's not how the conspiracy theory goes. Rothschilds gave money to the shopkeeper english race to stop napoleon's rising aristocracy

>> No.8528076

>>8528058
im jk

>> No.8528078

>>8528076
me 2

>> No.8528087

>>8528084
>>8527906
>>8527947
>>8527994
Who's who, here? I swear to god, I will freak the fuck out.

>> No.8528093

>>8528084
>>8528087
You deleted it, you little dicktater.

>> No.8528094

I'm out.

>> No.8528101

>>8528093
Cuz the spelling was embarrassing

>> No.8528103

>>8528101
o rly

>> No.8528108

>>8528087
You,
>>8528093
You,
>>8528094
You,
>>8528101
And you. In my office now!
>>8528036
You, shut the fuck up!

>> No.8528161

>>8528108
I'll get in your office.

I'll get in your office so hard.

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>>8527517
>>8527604
>>8527620
/POL/ GET OUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.8528366

>>8527517
>>8527604
>>8527620
this is actually disgusting

you know nothing of the occupation

nazis are filth and traitors got what they deserved

>> No.8528378

>>8527703
This man in my country, he is nothing.

>> No.8528395

>>8527591
So are gommies.

>> No.8528396

>>8527528
There's a lot of right wing writings out there, like massive amounts of even only 20th century stuff.
I often come to these threads to insult polfags and recommend conservative philosophy, but this one isn't worth it.

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>> No.8528408

>>8527546

he was not, in fact, red pilled

>>8527528

>Instead many bookstores simple ban any right wing writings.

mein kampf was re-released in Germany very little time ago.

there simply are very, very few contemporary fascist intellectuals. you can count them on one hand.

tell me, who are all those people that suffer from censorship?

>> No.8528409

>>8527620

KILL YOURSELF

>> No.8528452

>>8528396
>There's a lot of right wing writings out there, like massive amounts of even only 20th century stuff.
Then contribute to the thread instead of circlejerking.

>> No.8528520

>>8528452
Why? You cretins don't read.

>> No.8528637

>>8527724

kys you stupid nigger

>Germany to
>to

complete fucking bullshit

all our most beautiful cities have close to no migrants and are some if the safest cities in the entire world..

regensburg, bamberg, nürnberg, heidelberg, rothenburg, düsseldorf..

even leipzig and dresden are relatively safe.

the only reason asshats like you complain is because all you've heard about are berlin, hamburg, munich and maybe frankfurt.

I've been to all of them, lived in some of them, they're not that great.

educate yourself you anglo subhuman.

>> No.8528644

>>8527749

how is that in any way relevant? how does it change the fact that its a piece of shit book written by one of the worst authors of all time?

I agree with other anon, his art wasn't terrible. he was probably one of the greatest public speakers of all time. aside from that, there is nothing but völkisch mysticism and an inferiority complex from WW1.

>>8527752

I'm actually pretty certain.

>> No.8528648

>>8527794

>he was half-Jewish

no one claims that, most historians agree that his biological father was alois. only fringes say his biological father was a jew.

>was into incest
>was partially blind

never even heard about that. highly doubt any reliable scientist would claim that.

>had only one testicle

an inside joke that went viral.

>gassed 1 person every 8 seconds

the math doesn't add up, but he sure as fuck gassed millions of people

>was bi-polar

that's pretty plausible

what the fuck is your point, nigger?

just because americans are taught in school that he made lampshades and soap out of jews it now suddenly means that all scholarship on hitler is wrong? go fuck yourself

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>>8528648

>he sure as fuck gassed millions of people

>> No.8528663

What percentage of younger people fit into "alt-right", far right, or perhaps even just nationalist?

>> No.8528673

>>8528663
Well 20% of young people intend to vote for Trump for a start

>> No.8528721

>>8528366
It's making fun of /pol/acks you fucking retard.

>> No.8528730

>>8527906
You are pretending to be a Sargonkiddy.

Sargonkiddies disgust me more than fascists. Fascists are just disaffected and spiteful: this I understand. Sargonkiddies are smug in their contented ignorance.

>> No.8528773

Best non edgy fascist writers:
>Benito Mussolini
>Oswald Mosley
>Gottfried Feder

>> No.8528808

>>8528663
Alt right doesn't exist

>> No.8528840

The stupidest thing many leftists do is they pretend there's a "correct" political system that works for everyone.

Open borders "we are all humans" politics obviously benefit 3rd worlders more than people in the rich countries, who are better off with a different, more "racist" approach.

Politics is not about intellectual circle jerking, it's about choosing what's best for your community.

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>>8528840

>your community

>> No.8528935

>>8527794
>Literally every fact about Hitler is revisionist

And this is why there are no great fascist authors.

>> No.8528967

>>8528858
Reminder that Stirnerism is a spook

>> No.8528994

>>8527581
I think we should probably focus on the global menace of white men before we deal with small fry issues like this. Good post though anon, I love the enthusiasm!

>> No.8528997

>>8527516
You are the worst kind of pseudo intellectual. Let me guess, you read a book in college or something?

>> No.8529012

>>8527496
Evola

>> No.8529016

>>8529012
The most alpha thing you can do, is not cum at all!

>> No.8529023

>>8527726
What does France have to do with the conflict in Syria?

Face it, sand savages have no place in western society.

>> No.8529024

>>8527517
>>8528366
rip petain

>> No.8529037

>>8529023
The geopolitical acumen of your average /pol/ poster, folks

>> No.8529052

>>8528840
>who are better off with a different, more "racist" approach
This is not an accepted statement.
>Politics is not about intellectual circle jerking, it's about choosing what's best for your community.
This is the most plebby statement I've ever read.

Politics guides whether or not you care for your community to begin with, and just what your community is meant to be. It also guides what values you care about -- what you want your community to be like. You can't simply "choose what's best" -- you're already assuming, presumably without realising it, a host of political beliefs.

This is like those people who truly think you can guide policy with science alone.
>>8528967
Thank you. People need to be reminded of this. If you are an "egoist", you are not an egoist.

>> No.8529064

>>8527726
>Oh and those brown terrorists you're so hung up about? They're fascists. ISIS is a fascist organization

Yeah and they also drink water. I thought drinking water was ok, but obviously it's not because terrorists do it.

>> No.8529069

>>8527726
ISIS is not fascist. They share many traits, but they are not fascist. Fascism is an actual political ideology, not a method of governance.
>>8529064
Do not deny that most fascist propaganda (and hence what most actual low-level fascists believe) relies on showing mudslimes as barbaric thugs.

>> No.8529080

>>8529069
>Fascists are generally strongly anti-capitalist subordinating individual rights, profit and property rights to the State.

It could fit, but fascism has so many definitions that some of them do not fit to Daesh - mostly since it's not really about national rebirth, they want a new state which is based on religion, not on a people

>> No.8529085

>>8529080
Though they are certainly racist.

Ba'athism is much closer to fascism, though it too lacks the military aspect (I think).

ISIS just thinks warriors of faith are good people. Fascism thinks they're integral to government, society, &c., and are good because they fight rather than because they're doing God's will.

>> No.8529100

>>8529069
>>8529080
As long as we have a strong border with the Middle East and Africa I don't really give a remote fuck about those people.
Whether they're fascist or socialists it's all the same to me. I just don't want them here and I don't want to have anything to do with them.

I don't know why this is so hard to understand for "leftists".
Or actually, I do. It's because they bought into the globalist propaganda and so anyone who opposes immigration is the devil.

>> No.8529106

>>8529100
Sorry buddy but "the world should revolve around me" isn't a respectable ideology. If you need a safe space then try a church, or keep hanging out in /pol/, but the whole world shouldn't bend to your need for one.

>> No.8529110

>>8529100
>I don't know why this is so hard to understand for "leftists".
Because there was no reasoning in your post.

It's quite hard to understand something if you don't know its reasoning. Often, as in your post, the reasoning is assumed, and boils down to upbringing and a constant consumption of propaganda.

Similar to how liberals just assume everyone wants a happy democratic superjust society.
>>8529106
It's a fine ideology. That's not what he's espousing, however. He cares about """the people""".

>> No.8529200

Nazi literature is too dank for /lit/

>> No.8529233

>>8527496

Fascism is dead. But you should check out the European New Right.

>> No.8529246

>>8529110
>Because there was no reasoning in your post.
>It's quite hard to understand something if you don't know its reasoning.
The reasoning is this:
1. Our country is our property, in a similar way as, say, my house is my property (this is all debatable, but even most pro-immigrants seem to agree on it so why not go with it).
2. I don't want those people on our property, at least not permanently.
And it's not just about sharing material goods, but sharing the whole "cultural space" that is problematic.

(Of course you could also ask why I don't want those people here, but I don't feel the need to answer that, at this point or maybe ever.)

And I somewhat agree with Yarvin when he said something along the lines of: political problems can be easily solved by defining ownership (say, of a country or region).
Otherwise it's all up to political powers of the day and endless bickering, which no doubt is something that seems to keep most people happy or at least distracted.

>> No.8529252

>>8529246
>2. I don't want those people on our property, at least not permanently.
That would be where most liberals do not understand.
>but I don't feel the need to answer that, at this point or maybe ever.
Hence why it is where most liberals do not understand.

People will never accept something too harmful to them. Cornered rats, and all. Your solution is not a solution, disregarding politics.

>> No.8529301

>>8527528
>I doubt the lack of intellectuals supporting fascism. Instead (insert conspiracy theory here)
Right wingers really are pathetic

>> No.8529303

>>8527606
>It's not because reactionairies hate the trendies among the intellectuals that they hate intellectuals as such.
This is why people claim fascist can't write
Or read

>> No.8529312 [DELETED] 

>>8529301
Hitler is banned in many bookstores, its a conspiracy you dumb twat.

>> No.8529313

>>8529252
>Hence why it is where most liberals do not understand.
Which is funny, because they certainly don't provide any such explanation when they refuse to accept random ""refugees"" into their private homes.
I saw a couple of those fucks wiggle their way out of on a TV show. One said that he can't "because he just rents his apartment" and the other (an academic) said that it's not about what individuals do but about the society as a whole. Spooky and disgusting.
Luckily for them the TV host didn't pressure them because he, like most TV hosts, was just going along with mainstream politics.

>> No.8529314

>>8529313
>Which is funny, because they certainly don't provide any such explanation when they refuse to accept random ""refugees"" into their private homes.
I see you don't read other people's posts.

>> No.8529351

>Hitler
>not a socialist left wing
Every time.

>> No.8529360

This entire thread is a fucking shitshow, like two serious recommendations in an entire thread because people can't stand someone having an ideology they don't like.

/lit/, you're better than this.

>> No.8529364

>>8529360
Fascism isn't serious. It is basically the ideology of an extreme circus. There's fuck all to it others haven't done better

>> No.8529367

>>8529364
You're the same kind of person who shits up Joyce threads with that arse full of farts copypasta. Neck yourself you childish memelord.

>> No.8529370

>>8529367
I don't post in Joyce threads but is quite telling that not only you do but you do so often with unirony

And you speak to me of memes

>> No.8529371

>>8529360
I can think of plenty of excellent conservatives, but no good fascist authors.

This is ultimately true: >>8529364

Its like asking "Why are there no great books of Peronist ideology". Populism doesnt rely on intellectualism. Look at this shit right here: >>8528935. The niggers who are interested in it reject scholarly works because they are made by scholars. The closest I can think of is Aleksandr Dugin in that he is a mystic nationalist, but his works are steeped in orthodoxy and pan-slavism, which would not be palatable to your typical /pol/ shitter.

>> No.8529372

>>8527604
I've met cool French people tho. They must have all fled the big cities.

>> No.8529374

>>8529371
Ezra Pound.

>> No.8529380

>>8529370
>Joyce is a meme
>fascism is a meme
Please just go back to /mu/. Please.
>>8529371
>no great fascist authors
Pound. Also, you're being an ass by decrying OP as a /pol/ shitter and saying he wouldn't understand any actual works related to fascism. This is a literature board, so mention literature or don't mention anything at all. Maybe if you want to moan and bitch about an ideology you don't like, you would actually enjoy yourself more on /pol/.

>>>/pol/

>> No.8529383

>>8529371
Caveat: in Evans' history of the Third Reich in power he has a large chapter on Blood and Soil authors like Etinghoffer and such.

>>8529374
>>8529380

>'Any good I've done has been spoiled by bad intentions – the preoccupation with irrelevant and stupid things...'But the worst mistake I made was that stupid, suburban prejudice of anti-semitism.'[179]

-Ezra Pound


You niggers are worse than the /pol/ types who include Junger on every list of nazi authors.

>> No.8529387

>>8529380
I mentioned dugin. You are the one who is having a tough time listing Fascist philosophers and great authors that werent writing penny-dreadfuls for Goebbels' kulture machine. I would love to mention one. But Pound was as much of a fascist as that pathetic lord in Remains of the Day

>> No.8529388

>>8529380
>Please just go back to /mu/. Please.

Joyce in general was talented but speaking on him every day is counter intuitive. Likewise, all of fascism is counter intuitive. It is also an ideology for useful idiots to believe in as their own deluded self help doctrine while others play them for fools.

>> No.8529391

>>8529383
If someone is fascist while producing the good literature we are talking about, it is not relevant whether they later renounced their stupidity.

Though I didn't know he'd done such a thing.

>> No.8529393

>>8529383
Doesn't change the fact that he was pro fascism when he wrote the cantos.
>>8529387
>you are the one who is having a tough time listing Fascist philosophers and great authors
I'm not a fascist, I'm not an expert on fascist literature. I'm just mad that a thread that was actually meant for discussing books was shitted up by politicking when /lit/ is in desperate need of proper discussion.

>> No.8529408

>>8529393
The problem with these threads is that they start with a /pol/-like political statement and picture.
And considering they shit the board up with frog women hate and similar threads people are mad and don't feel they deserve or are even capable of a nice discussion on books concerning those subjects. Compare this to the occasional conservative philosophy and literature thread.

>> No.8529443
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8529443

This book gives you some background for Anti-Semite feelings, as you can see parallels between organized crime and Jewish networks.

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8529450

>>8529443
>that awful as fuck transition between the title and the coin that it looks like it was cropped in microsoft paint

>> No.8529474

>>8529408
Your argument is flawed on a number of levels. First off, the frogposting and women hate is from /r9k/. Secondly, there is no reason to assume OP browses /pol/. I lean right of the spectrum and I don't browse /pol/. Thirdly, that's not a /pol/ picture, it's the logo of Nazi Germany, the most well known fascist state to have ever existed, it's totally relevant. Also, there is no provocative statement in the OP. He simply asks for some fascists writers and laments it's much harder to find works on it than Communism.

>> No.8529481

>>8529474
>Secondly, there is no reason to assume OP browses /pol/.

There is reason to assume OP browses on /po/, and that either you're OP or equally shilling

>> No.8529487

>>8527496

I hate nazis and fascism, but two excellent fascist writers were Louis Ferdinand Celine and Ezra Pound.

Heidegger was a nazi, a German supremacist (of the German language, not the German race), a WEWUZER with regards to the Greeks who thought it was only possible to think in Greek and German, not English, Latin or French.
He is still very popular because his philosophy is useful for leftists and libertarians, he influenced people such as Aynd Rand and Sartre.
Philosophers and writers influenced by him denied he was a nazi until it could not be hidden anymore.

>> No.8529540

>>8529474
Is this your first day on 4chan.

>> No.8529548

>>8529110
But there are strong reasons as to why (uncontrolled) immigration from this countries is to be opposed (disproportionate crime rate, dependency on welfare, higher fertility thus growing presence and influence, a culture that is founded on a religion that is a lot more violent and intolerant of other cultures (starting not a few hundred years after being born but instead during muhammad's lifetime, making up a good part of his life), lack of identification with their new homeland, on average less educated even if provided with socialised schooling, etc.) and you have to provide them. I agree with your view on regional/national sovereignty, but if you're having a discussion you have to lay out the reasoning for your views. This is not only vital for the discussion itself, but also for your credibility. If you behave like a self-righteous little shit, you won't convince anyone, but instead confirm their view that everyone who holds such views is a mouth-breathing mongrel, thus further damaging your cause. You will also destroy the basis for any fruitful discussion on the underlying objectives of your proposal or the possibility for finding common ground.
Also, don't let yourself get labelled or label yourself unless completely necessary. Your embracing a strawman discussion this way, possibly discrediting yourself. Don't believe the people calling you a fascist for wanting national sovereignty, limited immigration or recognizing. They either don't know what fascism means (through ignorance or propaganda), in which case you should correct them, or they willingly denounce you in order to further their own cause, in which case there is no fruitful discussion to be had. All you can do is call them out on their ruthless behavior and mark them for the demagogues they are.

>> No.8529549

>>8529481
>>8529540
All pathos no logic. Nice one. God forbid we talk about books?

>> No.8529554

>>8529549
It is your first day on 4chan.

>> No.8529557

>>8529549
>All pathos no logic. Nice one.

Do you know what an assumption is. Most people assume things casually. Like your post for example, you're assuming more than you really should be.

>> No.8529602

>>8529554
I'm not going to pretend to be an "oldfag" or whatever. Most people when accused of newfaggotry say they're from 2008, without fail. I came here in 2013, from bb.com to /fit/. Doesn't make my points any less valid.
>>8529557
My whole point is that assuming OP from /pol/ isn't a valid excuse to derail what could have been a potentially decent discussion with crossboard shitlfinging. There's a chance he is from /pol/, but not all right wing people browse /pol/ and nothing in his post was inflammatory.

>> No.8529616

>>8529602
>>My whole point is that assuming OP from /pol/ isn't a valid excuse to derail what could have been a potentially decent discussion with crossboard shitlfinging.

Honestly if you don't understand why people have a bone to pick with authentically dealing with ideology that is for the most part, not thorough at all, philisophically and politically, and more like a personality cult; then you shouldn't be talking about fascism.

If you want to talk about legitimate traditionalist fascism I would say Evola, but even that's a bit of a stretch and his ideas are hardly clear. But at least there's something to work with.

For fucks sake's for all the military incompetrence of Italy even Mussolini was a better fascist than Hitler. Hitler was just taking advantage of a gullible post-war Germany with a magic self help fairly land where Germany gets everything it ever wants because it's stronk. And ignoring starting a bunch of wars after the Treaty of Versailles was a bad idea and strategic suicide.

Ultimately OP lends itself to be /pol/ because OP doesn't understand what fascism is or is willing to critique its past attempts.

>> No.8529628

>>8527655
THere is much debate about writers of the Conservative Revolutionary movement but scholars of fascism do put it on the far right and attribute it for helping to undermine the Weimar Republic and enable the rise of the nazis. Junger was anti-fascist per say, he was anti-totalitarian, he associated with many fascists during and after the war

>> No.8529635

>>8529602
>I'm not going to pretend to be an "oldfag" or whatever. Most people when accused of newfaggotry say they're from 2008, without fail. I came here in 2013, from bb.com to /fit/. Doesn't make my points any less valid.
Then it is I who is being rused, because someone who's been on here three years would never think >>8529540 and >>8529481 were unsatisfactory, nor would they think we could just talk about "books".

>> No.8529657

>>8528002
It's funny because all cultures are built on myth, it's a necessary process for any community regardless of ideology

>> No.8529711

>>8527496
Guillame Faye and Julius Evola

>> No.8529715
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8529715

>>8527726

>> No.8529780

>>8529635
Kindly take your shitposting back to /mu/ or /tv/ please

>> No.8529786

>>8529780
Kindly take your shilling back to /his/ or /pol/

>> No.8529793

>>8529786
>shill shill shill shill
Are you sure you're not the one from /pol/? You sure do love their memes.

>> No.8529796

>>8529793
>Are you sure you're not the one from /pol/?
Yep I'm sure. I'm sorry you don't approve of my language.

>> No.8529806

>>8527496
Rule 2

>> No.8529838

>>8529806
Huh?

>> No.8529869

>>8529838
Global Rule 2

>> No.8530004

>>8529780
>he thinks he's not a newfag

>> No.8530057

You can't discuss fascism on this board without underage /mu/tards bringing up /pol/. It's sad.

>> No.8530082

>>8530057
No it's just people here read books. Books give them context, continuity, and causality, so they don't assume the meme of the moment is the way it's always been or in someway inseparable from reality or human nature. They know better.

>> No.8530170

Bump

>> No.8530352

>>8527784
This.

>> No.8530672

>>8527516

Any actual proof for any of this?

>> No.8530682

>>8530057
Look at some of the responses in this thread and tell me it's not warranted

>> No.8531099

Stop promoting racism and hate, OK thanks.

>> No.8531148

Bukowski

>> No.8531430

>>8531148
+1

>> No.8531444
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8531444

>fascist thread
>posts a national-socialist flag

>> No.8531467

Wyndham Lewis

>> No.8532040

>>8531444
Its was fascist government.

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8532163

>fascism is anti-intellectual

So cute.

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>>8532163

>> No.8532927

>>8527688
daaaaaaaamn

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>>8532927

>> No.8533302

>>8527655
Junger was very opposed to national socialism but was friends with some fascists and pseudo-fascists. His beliefs got weirder as he aged. He declared himself an Anarch, which he claimed was to the anarchist what the monarch is to the monarchist. He also converted to Catholicism near the end of his life. Does anyone know if he renounced his old admiration of Nietzsche after doing that? Generally, Christianity and Nietzche's philosophy don't mix.

>> No.8533593

>>8527675
why are you such a meme

>> No.8533876

>>8527604
wow very progressive
proud of you france

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>>8533876
A real loving passionate Parisian from the current year.

>> No.8533999

>>8528637
>capital city is filled with turks and other brown things that come over on boats
>thinks ching chong chinamen even know or care about those other cities listed
I'm sure those smaller cities are nice and homogeneous but let's be honest, anyone who visits Germany(especially east asians) are going to visit the big cities. Their impression of Germany is going to come from those cities, and that first impression is not going to be the most flattering when those cities are filled with human trash. I even remember watching some street interview in Japan about their views on different countries and when it came to Germany one of the Japanese girls made a comment about how she loved blonde hair, then a japanese man she was with "corrected" her, saying how he seemed to recall Germany being multi-ethnic. No offense my dude, but when random nips on the street have the impression your whole country is a multi-ethnic and arabized, it's probably not the best sign.

>> No.8534221

>>8528366
Why are you so triggered by nazis?

>> No.8534376

>>8532040
Reds and fash are the same thing.

>> No.8535000

>>8534221
Because the Holocaust?

>> No.8535032

>>8534221
because they were objectively horrible

>> No.8535120

>>8535032
Communism killed more you know?

>> No.8535343

>>8535120
You sound like a bully.

>> No.8535367

>>8535343
*Racial realist.

>> No.8535401

>>8529052
You don't even know what an egoist is.

>> No.8535435

>>8534376
Real communism has never been tried tho.

>> No.8535528

where the fuck did all of those people from /r/socialism and /leftypol/ came from?

Fuck off and die you unfunny pricks

>> No.8535591

If this board isn't fascist, how come there are so many nazi frog pictures?

>> No.8535916

>>8535591
>pepe the frog was started by neonazis
Okay.